Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread Owen DeLong

On Feb 20, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:

 On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, John Osmon wrote:
 
 At my $JOB[-1] they laughed at me when I pulled a Wyse out of the
 trash bin and stuck it on a spare crash cart.
 
 Then I fixed something while they were still looking for USB-Serial,
 etc.
 
 Speaking of that sort of thing, I'd really LOVE if there were a device about 
 the size of a netbook that could be hooked up to otherwise headless machines 
 in colos that would give you keyboard, video  mouse.  i.e. a folding netbook 
 shaped VGA monitor with USB keyboard and touchpad.  I know there are folding 
 rackmount versions of this (i.e. from Dell), but I want something far more 
 portable.  Twice in the past month, I'd had to drive 100+ miles to a remote 
 colo and took a full size flat panel monitor and keyboard with me.  Has 
 anyone actually built this yet?
 

Actually, everything necessary to do that is present in the new Macbook Pros 
with Thunderbolt.

It would just take a dongle with the VGA input and the USB outputs and some 
minor changes to Target Display Mode Software.

Owen




Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread Owen DeLong
+1 for Raritan... I was very happy with their KVM switches at my last job.

Owen

On Feb 20, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Matthew Black wrote:

 Take a look at Raritan. We use their product to gain remote access to system 
 consoles. No more driving 100s of miles. Ok, it would be 200 feet for us.
 
 
 matthew black
 information technology services bh-188
 california state university, long beach
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Lewis [mailto:jle...@lewis.org] 
 Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:35 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine
 
 On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, John Osmon wrote:
 
 At my $JOB[-1] they laughed at me when I pulled a Wyse out of the 
 trash bin and stuck it on a spare crash cart.
 
 Then I fixed something while they were still looking for USB-Serial, 
 etc.
 
 Speaking of that sort of thing, I'd really LOVE if there were a device about 
 the size of a netbook that could be hooked up to otherwise headless machines 
 in colos that would give you keyboard, video  mouse.  i.e. a folding netbook 
 shaped VGA monitor with USB keyboard and touchpad.  I know there are folding 
 rackmount versions of this (i.e. from Dell), but I want something far more 
 portable.  Twice in the past month, I'd had to drive 
 100+ miles to a remote colo and took a full size flat panel monitor and
 keyboard with me.  Has anyone actually built this yet?
 
 --
  Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
  Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
  Atlantic Net|
 _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
 
 
 




Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, February 20, 2012 09:07:20 PM Jimmy Hess wrote:
 RJ45 is really an example of what was originally a misconception
 became so widespread, so universal, that reality has actually shifted
 so the misconception became reality.   When was the last time you ever
 heard anyone say 8P8C connector?

And then there's the 10C variant used on some serial port interfaces (like 
those from Equinox). 

'8 pin modular plug' is reasonable, though, and is what I'll typically say, 
with the modifier 'for stranded' or 'for solid' conductors, as it does make a 
difference.  I haven't said 'RJ45 plug' in years.

Yeah, it's a bummer that the keyed RJ45 plug got genericized to the unkeyed 
variant; at least the unkeyed plug used for TIA568A/B will work in a true RJ45 
jack.  



Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Bonomi

Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:

 On Monday, February 20, 2012 09:07:20 PM Jimmy Hess wrote:
  RJ45 is really an example of what was originally a misconception
  became so widespread, so universal, that reality has actually shifted
  so the misconception became reality.   When was the last time you ever
  heard anyone say 8P8C connector?

 And then there's the 10C variant used on some serial port interfaces (like 
 those from Equinox). 

At least RJ45-X is still unambiguus.  wry grin




Re: Single-port Network KVM

2012-02-21 Thread Dmitry Cherkasov
Not exactly what was asked originally but consider using Dell
PowerEdge servers with Enterprise iDRAC component. You get nice IP-KVM
+ power switch. This adds around $300 to the overall server price.
BTW, looks like this iDRAC is implemented on the base of Avocent gear
which is one of the best in IP-KVMs.
I'm completely satisfied using iDRACs in a number of servers.

Just my $0.05.


Dmitry Cherkasov



2012/2/20 Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com:
 - Original Message -
 From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com

 There are others. This one appears to be web/java based rather than VNC,
 though that probably isn't a killer for most people.

 I thought I'd seen a little dongle-y model; I'll look around a bit
 more.

 Didn't read far enough; Jussi Peltola posted this downthread:

 http://www.lantronix.com/it-management/kvm-over-ip/securelinx-spiderduo.html

 That's the item I wanted, and it's only $200.  And Lantronix' support
 department is arguably the best hardware vendor support organization I
 have *ever* worked with.

 Cheers,
 -- jra
 --
 Jay R. Ashworth                  Baylink                       
 j...@baylink.com
 Designer                     The Things I Think                       RFC 2100
 Ashworth  Associates     http://baylink.pitas.com         2000 Land Rover DII
 St Petersburg FL USA      http://photo.imageinc.us             +1 727 647 1274




Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread -Hammer-
Can someone give me a link or part number on the Raritan site? I see LCD 
consoles but they are the generic slide out versions. Looking for the 
netbook concept referenced below


-Hammer-

I was a normal American nerd
-Jack Herer



On 2/21/2012 3:51 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:

+1 for Raritan... I was very happy with their KVM switches at my last job.

Owen

On Feb 20, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Matthew Black wrote:


Take a look at Raritan. We use their product to gain remote access to system 
consoles. No more driving 100s of miles. Ok, it would be 200 feet for us.


matthew black
information technology services bh-188
california state university, long beach

-Original Message-
From: Jon Lewis [mailto:jle...@lewis.org]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:35 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, John Osmon wrote:


At my $JOB[-1] they laughed at me when I pulled a Wyse out of the
trash bin and stuck it on a spare crash cart.

Then I fixed something while they were still looking for USB-Serial,
etc.

Speaking of that sort of thing, I'd really LOVE if there were a device about the 
size of a netbook that could be hooked up to otherwise headless machines in colos 
that would give you keyboard, video  mouse.  i.e. a folding netbook shaped VGA 
monitor with USB keyboard and touchpad.  I know there are folding rackmount 
versions of this (i.e. from Dell), but I want something far more portable.  Twice 
in the past month, I'd had to drive
100+ miles to a remote colo and took a full size flat panel monitor and
keyboard with me.  Has anyone actually built this yet?

--
  Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
  Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
  Atlantic Net|
_ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_










Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-21 Thread nanog

Op 15-2-2012 21:47, John Kristoff schreef:

Hi friends,

As some of you may know, I occasionally teach networking to college
students and I frequently encounter misconceptions about some aspect
of networking that can take a fair amount of effort to correct.

For instance, a topic that has come up on this list before is how the
inappropriate use of classful terminology is rampant among students,
books and often other teachers.  Furthermore, the terminology isn't even
always used correctly in the original context of classful addressing.

I have a handful of common misconceptions that I'd put on a top 10 list,
but I'd like to solicit from this community what it considers to be the
most annoying and common operational misconceptions future operators
often come at you with.

I'd prefer replies off-list and can summarize back to the list if
there is interest.

John


Haven't seen this one yet:

TCP/IP is based on the osi model.

Erik van Westen.



Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread John Osmon
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:16:28PM -0800, Chaim Rieger wrote:
 Apple stickers 

I've got half a sheet of NeXT stickers left.  Is that a reasonable
substitute?



Re: Laptop with reverse VGA

2012-02-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Jake Khuon kh...@neebu.net

 I think the form-factour is already there. I have a Motorola Atrix
 smartphone. It's available with a laptop-dock unit. This is
 essentially a USB hub and display. The display is connected by
 outputting from the phone's HDMI port. The rest of the input/output
 device (keyboard and trackpad) are seen as USB connected devices and
 interfaced via the phone's USB port (Atrix supports USB host mode).
 
 Essentially, this laptop dock is what people are talking about except
 for a generic host instead of for a phone. We would want to expose the
 HDMI input generically and probably with an additional VGA input. Of
 course there are also VGA-HDMI converters. Anyone wanna ring up
 Motorola to see if they're interesting in adapting the Atrix
 laptop-dock technology? 

As someone who's done video for 20 years, I can tell you, Jake: 

It ain't that easy.

The interface on the Atrix is purpose-built, and it's almost certainly
just a DVI/HDMI digital interface to a panel that expects that.

What's necessary for a standalone KVM of the sort we're talking about
is what the video people call a genlock circuit -- most machines that
need this at all have analog VGA out, and you have to have a chip that
can lock up to it, and extract the video from that analog signal cleanly.

This is, to quote the Jargon file, decidedly non-trivial to do well.

That's the reason why a single port unit, not on sale, is generally around
$400.  If it was DVI/HDMI *only*, it could be substantially cheaper, but
I've never seen one that was.

Cheers,
- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274



Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com

 RJ45 is really an example of what was originally a misconception
 became so widespread, so universal, that reality has actually shifted
 so the misconception became reality. When was the last time you ever
 heard anyone say 8P8C connector?
 
 Joe public caught on to RJ45, so now that word means something
 different in common usage than what it was specified to be. When
 was the last time you heard someone say 8P8C connector in reference to
 Ethernet?

WADR: horseshit.

I, in fact, just wrote a cabling RFQ yesterday for a new building, and
*I* write 8P8C male modular connector.  So, in short: if you *actually
need to be saying it*, you actually need to be saying it correctly, because
you're talking to people who know the difference.

They won't say anything, mind you, and you'll get what you want; they'll
just think you're a clueless dilettante.

Cheers,
-- jr 'yes, I'm a prescriptivist[1]' a

[1] The *point* of language is communication; this is impossible if
words mean what people want them to mean, no more, no less.
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274



Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread Owen DeLong
http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/

Owen

On Feb 21, 2012, at 5:57 AM, -Hammer- wrote:

 Can someone give me a link or part number on the Raritan site? I see LCD 
 consoles but they are the generic slide out versions. Looking for the netbook 
 concept referenced below
 
 -Hammer-
 
 I was a normal American nerd
 -Jack Herer
 
 
 
 On 2/21/2012 3:51 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
 +1 for Raritan... I was very happy with their KVM switches at my last job.
 
 Owen
 
 On Feb 20, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Matthew Black wrote:
 
 Take a look at Raritan. We use their product to gain remote access to 
 system consoles. No more driving 100s of miles. Ok, it would be 200 feet 
 for us.
 
 
 matthew black
 information technology services bh-188
 california state university, long beach
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Lewis [mailto:jle...@lewis.org]
 Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:35 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine
 
 On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, John Osmon wrote:
 
 At my $JOB[-1] they laughed at me when I pulled a Wyse out of the
 trash bin and stuck it on a spare crash cart.
 
 Then I fixed something while they were still looking for USB-Serial,
 etc.
 Speaking of that sort of thing, I'd really LOVE if there were a device 
 about the size of a netbook that could be hooked up to otherwise headless 
 machines in colos that would give you keyboard, video  mouse.  i.e. a 
 folding netbook shaped VGA monitor with USB keyboard and touchpad.  I know 
 there are folding rackmount versions of this (i.e. from Dell), but I want 
 something far more portable.  Twice in the past month, I'd had to drive
 100+ miles to a remote colo and took a full size flat panel monitor and
 keyboard with me.  Has anyone actually built this yet?
 
 --
  Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
  Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
  Atlantic Net|
 _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
 
 
 
 
 




Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread Mike Gatti
The Trendnet TU-S9 (works on 32 and 64bit), it uses the prolific chip and it's 
pretty cheap, making it fit for a vending machine. 
Trendnet could actually use the Franks Hot Sauce commercial on TV to advertise, 
the one that the old lady says I put that s$@t on everything. 

P.S.: I don't work for trendnet :)

--
Michael Gatti  
main. 949.371.5474
(UTC -8)



On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Bryan Irvine wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
 In a message written on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:35:15PM -0500, Jay Ashworth 
 wrote:
 Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a
 vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't
 let vendor specificity scare you off.
 
 USB-Serial adapters.  Preferably selected so they are driverless on
 both OSX and Windows. :)
 
 The trick is to look for one that works on OpenBSD.  If it works
 there, it will work on Windows, Mac, and Linux.  YMMV. :-)
 




Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread Mike Gatti
The 30lb sledge hammer should be in the parking lot in a enclosure with a front 
glass that reads Break in case of extreme frustration right next to the 
dumpster for recycling hardware. 
You could make a living just with that business, replacing the front glass. 

--
Michael Gatti  
main. 949.371.5474
(UTC -8)



On Feb 17, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Peter Kristolaitis wrote:

 On 12-02-17 03:05 PM, Leigh Porter wrote:
 Did anybody say beer yet?
 
 
 Don't forget the 30lb sledgehammer for those times when, ah, percussive 
 maintenance is the only possible solution.  ;)
 
 (Might be a bit hard to fit into a vending machine though... maybe the colo 
 staff could just rent one out...)
 
 - Pete
 
 




IX in France

2012-02-21 Thread Ido Szargel
Hi All,

 

We are currently looking to connect to one of the IX's available in Paris,

It seems that there are 2 major players - FranceIX and Equinix FR, can
anyone share their opinions about those?

 

Thanks,

Ido

 



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Re: IX in France

2012-02-21 Thread Jared Mauch

On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Ido Szargel wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 We are currently looking to connect to one of the IX's available in Paris,
 
 It seems that there are 2 major players - FranceIX and Equinix FR, can
 anyone share their opinions about those?

At my former employer we connected to PARIX and don't recall any issues there.

www.parix.net (seems to be down right now).

- Jared







Re: Laptop with reverse VGA

2012-02-21 Thread Neil Harris

On 21/02/12 14:48, Jay Ashworth wrote:

- Original Message -

From: Jake Khuonkh...@neebu.net
I think the form-factour is already there. I have a Motorola Atrix
smartphone. It's available with a laptop-dock unit. This is
essentially a USB hub and display. The display is connected by
outputting from the phone's HDMI port. The rest of the input/output
device (keyboard and trackpad) are seen as USB connected devices and
interfaced via the phone's USB port (Atrix supports USB host mode).

Essentially, this laptop dock is what people are talking about except
for a generic host instead of for a phone. We would want to expose the
HDMI input generically and probably with an additional VGA input. Of
course there are also VGA-HDMI converters. Anyone wanna ring up
Motorola to see if they're interesting in adapting the Atrix
laptop-dock technology?

As someone who's done video for 20 years, I can tell you, Jake:

It ain't that easy.

The interface on the Atrix is purpose-built, and it's almost certainly
just a DVI/HDMI digital interface to a panel that expects that.

What's necessary for a standalone KVM of the sort we're talking about
is what the video people call a genlock circuit -- most machines that
need this at all have analog VGA out, and you have to have a chip that
can lock up to it, and extract the video from that analog signal cleanly.

This is, to quote the Jargon file, decidedly non-trivial to do well.

That's the reason why a single port unit, not on sale, is generally around
$400.  If it was DVI/HDMI *only*, it could be substantially cheaper, but
I've never seen one that was.

Cheers,
- jra


High prices are more likely to do with the small market for such 
devices, than to do with the cost of the underlying technology.


It isn't so much genlock, as accurate pixel clock recovery, that's the 
hard thing.


It is indeed hard to do well, but fortunately the chipmakers have done 
all that for you.  It's a common enough need (think flat panel monitors) 
that there are inexpensive single-chip solutions for it that not only do 
the A/D conversion, but handle the pixel clock recovery for you as well: 
see, for example, the Analog Devices AD9884A or ADV7441A.


Data sheets at 
http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/ad9884a/products/product.html 
and 
http://www.analog.com/en/analog-to-digital-converters/video-decoders/adv7441a/products/product.html 
respectively.


-- Neil




Re: Laptop with reverse VGA

2012-02-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk

 High prices are more likely to do with the small market for such
 devices, than to do with the cost of the underlying technology.

Sure.  Not being on the consumer part of the S-curve will kill you.

 It isn't so much genlock, as accurate pixel clock recovery, that's the
 hard thing.

That's the fundamental component of genlock, I think, isn't it?

 It is indeed hard to do well, but fortunately the chipmakers have done
 all that for you. It's a common enough need (think flat panel monitors)
 that there are inexpensive single-chip solutions for it that not only
 do the A/D conversion, but handle the pixel clock recovery for you as
 well: see, for example, the Analog Devices AD9884A or ADV7441A.

Yeah; I knew (or was pretty sure) that it was down to the chip level at
this point, but as you say, for driving the price down, there's nothing
like the single-chip solution, and this is apparently just far enough
off the edge of the popularity curve that it's not in any single-chip 
solutions (that I know of, and board-level hardware isn't really my game).

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274



Re: Laptop with reverse VGA

2012-02-21 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:45:02PM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote:
 Yeah; I knew (or was pretty sure) that it was down to the chip level at
 this point, but as you say, for driving the price down, there's nothing
 like the single-chip solution, and this is apparently just far enough
 off the edge of the popularity curve that it's not in any single-chip 
 solutions (that I know of, and board-level hardware isn't really my game).
 
Practically all desktop LCDs do have a single chip that eats VGA and
outputs LVDS. All you would need is a suitable ROM with modelines for it
to work with a laptop screen. But these parts run hot and come in
gigantic TQFP packages (when compared to the form factor of ICs in
laptops.)

Making a replacement card that fits in a laptop instead of the
motherboard is quite possible. Sadly, I have neither the time nor the
motivation since I already have a SpiderDuo :)



Re: IX in France

2012-02-21 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 18:46 +0200, Ido Szargel wrote:
 Hi All,
 
  
 
 We are currently looking to connect to one of the IX's available in Paris,
 
 It seems that there are 2 major players - FranceIX and Equinix FR, can
 anyone share their opinions about those?

Hi,

We're connected to both (and to a smaller third one named FR-IX), it's
not that expensive and adds redundancy to join many peers.

Sincerely,

Laurent




Re: DNS Attacks

2012-02-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:

 be assigned again, so a static filter policy will return to bite us
 again like it always does.

sure, so you are saying there's a timelimit on how long the supposed
ISP can run this infrastructure... and that they have until then to
lower their loss rate(s) when customers are cutoff and call their
support center because: The Intertubes are down!.

sounds accurate to me... of course, they've already been getting
notifications of infected folks, so hopefully they have a jump on the
problem already? :)

it's wishful thinking monday!
-chris



Re: DNS Attacks

2012-02-21 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Ken Gilmour ken.gilm...@gmail.com wrote:
 What happens when the client sends a POST from a cached page on the end
 user's machine? E.g. if they post login credentials. Of course, they'll get
 the error page, but then you have confidential data in your logs and now
 you have to protect highly confidential info, at least if you're in europe.

Either you don't log the data on the webserver,  or you notify the
user that the POST form data has now been posted, and display the link
to the public web page where their posted data now appears, on the
error page.

Once your user has shared confidential information unsolicited with
an unknown third party, and the general public,   the information's
confidentiality was spoiled by the act of posting, regardless of the
content of the information

-- 
-JH



Customer Notification System.

2012-02-21 Thread James Wininger
We are a smaller ISP in Indiana. We are growing quite rapidly (yeah for
us). We have a need for a customer notification system. We have simply
out grown the ability to send emails to our customers manually. We need
to have a better way of notifying our customers of maintenance etc.

 

We would need to send notifications out to say about 400 customers.
Ideally the system would send an attached PDF. It would be great if this
system were SQL based etc.

 

Does anyone know of a system that is out there that does this? We have
looked at a few applications (windows based) but integration with
billing etc seems to be a caveat. I have thought of possibly using a
mailing list type approach, but that gets us back to (almost) where we
are today. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. 

 

--

Jim Wininger

jwinin...@ifncom.net

 



Re: Customer Notification System.

2012-02-21 Thread David
PHPList?

On 02/21/2012 02:58 PM, James Wininger wrote:
 We are a smaller ISP in Indiana. We are growing quite rapidly (yeah for
 us). We have a need for a customer notification system. We have simply
 out grown the ability to send emails to our customers manually. We need
 to have a better way of notifying our customers of maintenance etc.

  

 We would need to send notifications out to say about 400 customers.
 Ideally the system would send an attached PDF. It would be great if this
 system were SQL based etc.

  

 Does anyone know of a system that is out there that does this? We have
 looked at a few applications (windows based) but integration with
 billing etc seems to be a caveat. I have thought of possibly using a
 mailing list type approach, but that gets us back to (almost) where we
 are today. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. 

  

 --

 Jim Wininger

 jwinin...@ifncom.net

  



-- 
David
Follow me @davidandgoliath




Re: Customer Notification System.

2012-02-21 Thread Brian Stengel
http://www.varolii.com/

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:58 PM, James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.netwrote:

 We are a smaller ISP in Indiana. We are growing quite rapidly (yeah for
 us). We have a need for a customer notification system. We have simply
 out grown the ability to send emails to our customers manually. We need
 to have a better way of notifying our customers of maintenance etc.



 We would need to send notifications out to say about 400 customers.
 Ideally the system would send an attached PDF. It would be great if this
 system were SQL based etc.



 Does anyone know of a system that is out there that does this? We have
 looked at a few applications (windows based) but integration with
 billing etc seems to be a caveat. I have thought of possibly using a
 mailing list type approach, but that gets us back to (almost) where we
 are today. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.



 --

 Jim Wininger

 jwinin...@ifncom.net






-- 
Brian Stengel
KINBER Director of Operations
bsten...@kinber.org
412.254.3481
Skype: brian_stengel

KINBER - Keystone Initiative for Network Based Education and Research -
www.kinber.org
PennREN - Pennsylvania's Research and Education Network


Re: Customer Notification System.

2012-02-21 Thread Dan White

We use Mailchimp to relay emails to our customers. They have the ability to
maintain lists of customer addresses, and I believe they have an API for
maintaining the list.

On 02/21/12 17:58 -0500, James Wininger wrote:

We are a smaller ISP in Indiana. We are growing quite rapidly (yeah for
us). We have a need for a customer notification system. We have simply
out grown the ability to send emails to our customers manually. We need
to have a better way of notifying our customers of maintenance etc.



We would need to send notifications out to say about 400 customers.
Ideally the system would send an attached PDF. It would be great if this
system were SQL based etc.



Does anyone know of a system that is out there that does this? We have
looked at a few applications (windows based) but integration with
billing etc seems to be a caveat. I have thought of possibly using a
mailing list type approach, but that gets us back to (almost) where we
are today. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.



--

Jim Wininger

jwinin...@ifncom.net






--
Dan White



Re: Customer Notification System.

2012-02-21 Thread Tom Pipes
Not sure if you have a customer database/spreadsheet and what OS platform
you use, but this product has served us well in the past:

http://www.massmailsoftware.com/bulkmail/

Tom Pipes
tom.pi...@t6mail.com


On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM, James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.netwrote:

 We are a smaller ISP in Indiana. We are growing quite rapidly (yeah for
 us). We have a need for a customer notification system. We have simply
 out grown the ability to send emails to our customers manually. We need
 to have a better way of notifying our customers of maintenance etc.



 We would need to send notifications out to say about 400 customers.
 Ideally the system would send an attached PDF. It would be great if this
 system were SQL based etc.



 Does anyone know of a system that is out there that does this? We have
 looked at a few applications (windows based) but integration with
 billing etc seems to be a caveat. I have thought of possibly using a
 mailing list type approach, but that gets us back to (almost) where we
 are today. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.



 --

 Jim Wininger

 jwinin...@ifncom.net






Re: DNS Attacks

2012-02-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:29:04 CST, Jimmy Hess said:
 Once your user has shared confidential information unsolicited with
 an unknown third party, and the general public,   the information's
 confidentiality was spoiled by the act of posting, regardless of the
 content of the information

I see lawyers booking their vacations in Tahiti now.


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Re: Customer Notification System.

2012-02-21 Thread Alex Leach
Billing software that caters to smaller web hosts and ISPs like WHMCS
can send out mass mailings, and you can drill down which customers
should receive the email based on the services they have with you.



On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM, James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.net wrote:
 We are a smaller ISP in Indiana. We are growing quite rapidly (yeah for
 us). We have a need for a customer notification system. We have simply
 out grown the ability to send emails to our customers manually. We need
 to have a better way of notifying our customers of maintenance etc.



 We would need to send notifications out to say about 400 customers.
 Ideally the system would send an attached PDF. It would be great if this
 system were SQL based etc.



 Does anyone know of a system that is out there that does this? We have
 looked at a few applications (windows based) but integration with
 billing etc seems to be a caveat. I have thought of possibly using a
 mailing list type approach, but that gets us back to (almost) where we
 are today. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.



 --

 Jim Wininger

 jwinin...@ifncom.net






Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
PC LOAD LETTER?!?!?!?!?

On 02/21/12 08:39, Mike Gatti wrote:
 The 30lb sledge hammer should be in the parking lot in a
 enclosure with a front glass that reads Break in case of
 extreme frustration right next to the dumpster for
 recycling hardware.

 You could make a living just with that business,
 replacing the front glass.
 

-- 
Mr. Flibble
King of the Potato People



Re: DNS Attacks

2012-02-21 Thread Henry Linneweh


Here is a repeat
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/16/ghost_domains_dns_vuln/

-henry

From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu valdis.kletni...@vt.edu
To: Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: DNS Attacks

On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:29:04 CST, Jimmy Hess said:
 Once your user has shared confidential information unsolicited with
 an unknown third party, and the general public,   the information's
 confidentiality was spoiled by the act of posting, regardless of the
 content of the information

I see lawyers booking their vacations in Tahiti now.


Re: Customer Notification System.

2012-02-21 Thread Graham Beneke

On 22/02/2012 01:00, David wrote:

PHPList?


We've been using PHPlist for a while but have also been searching for 
something that can do a 'network noticeboard' type of thing.


Haven't really come up with anything useful yet.

--
Graham Beneke



Re: Customer Notification System.

2012-02-21 Thread Adam Rothschild
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:58 PM, James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.net wrote:
 We are a smaller ISP in Indiana. We are growing quite rapidly (yeah for
 us). We have a need for a customer notification system. We have simply
 out grown the ability to send emails to our customers manually. We need
 to have a better way of notifying our customers of maintenance etc.

Seconding the earlier recommendation, mailchimp is a great tool.  Good
interface aside, there is strong operational benefit to being able to
issue notices completely out of band.

 We would need to send notifications out to say about 400 customers.
 Ideally the system would send an attached PDF [...]

If you're going to do this, please be sure to send a copy of the
notice inline as plain text too.  Your customers on smartphones, using
assistive technology, or automatically piping vendor notices into
calendaring/ticketing systems will thank you.  :-)

HTH,
-a



Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread PC
Back in college we had a fund raiser as a club where we laid out a bunch of
computer parts and a sledgehammer.  We charged by the swing.  It was Office
Space style fun.

It's profitability far exceeded our expectations.



On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Robert Hajime Lanning
lann...@lanning.ccwrote:

 PC LOAD LETTER?!?!?!?!?

 On 02/21/12 08:39, Mike Gatti wrote:
  The 30lb sledge hammer should be in the parking lot in a
  enclosure with a front glass that reads Break in case of
  extreme frustration right next to the dumpster for
  recycling hardware.
 
  You could make a living just with that business,
  replacing the front glass.
 

 --
 Mr. Flibble
 King of the Potato People




Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Robert Hajime Lanning lann...@lanning.cc
 On 02/21/12 08:39, Mike Gatti wrote:
  The 30lb sledge hammer should be in the parking lot in a
  enclosure with a front glass that reads Break in case of
  extreme frustration right next to the dumpster for
  recycling hardware.
 
  You could make a living just with that business,
  replacing the front glass.

 PC LOAD LETTER?!?!?!?!?

I prefer OUT OF CHEESE myself.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274



Re: Customer Notification System.

2012-02-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.net

 We are a smaller ISP in Indiana. We are growing quite rapidly (yeah for
 us). We have a need for a customer notification system. We have simply
 out grown the ability to send emails to our customers manually. We need
 to have a better way of notifying our customers of maintenance etc.
 
 We would need to send notifications out to say about 400 customers.
 Ideally the system would send an attached PDF. It would be great if
 this system were SQL based etc.

I will reply much more strongly than the other poster did:

*USE ASCII*.

If you sent me a scheduled maintenance window notice as a PDF attached to
an empty email, I'd drop you for a competitor.

But then, I'm a $CUSSWORD about such things.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274



Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-21 Thread Owen DeLong

On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Hajime Lanning lann...@lanning.cc
 On 02/21/12 08:39, Mike Gatti wrote:
 The 30lb sledge hammer should be in the parking lot in a
 enclosure with a front glass that reads Break in case of
 extreme frustration right next to the dumpster for
 recycling hardware.
 
 You could make a living just with that business,
 replacing the front glass.
 
 PC LOAD LETTER?!?!?!?!?
 
 I prefer OUT OF CHEESE myself.

Allright... Which one of you jokers stole my red stapler?

Owen




Re: IX in France

2012-02-21 Thread Olivier CALVANO
Hi

For me the best choice is FranceIX.

We are connected to Sfinx, FranceIX and Equinix, but 70% of our
peering traffic are sent on FranceIX.

Panap and Parix is dead

Best Regards
Olivier


Le 21 février 2012 17:46, Ido Szargel i...@oasis-tech.net a écrit :
 Hi All,



 We are currently looking to connect to one of the IX's available in Paris,

 It seems that there are 2 major players - FranceIX and Equinix FR, can
 anyone share their opinions about those?



 Thanks,

 Ido