Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois?
On 10 December 2012 13:27, Schiller, Heather A heather.schil...@verizon.com wrote: Actually, requiring a public whois record is the way it always has been, that's only recently changed. I think most folks would agree that, IPv4 /32 :: IPv6 /128 as IPv4 /29 :: IPv6 /64 So, while you are right, that swip'ing a v4 /32 has never been required, I think your analogy of a v6 /64 to a v4 /32 is off. The minimum assignment requiring a swip is also ensconced in RIR policy. If you don't like it, may I suggest you propose policy to change it? I think your comparison of IPv4 /32 being equivalent to IPv6 /128 is only true in specific and narrow contexts outside of this discussion, and I strongly disagree with such generalisations being applied here. Just from the practical side and by means of an example, take a look at 6rd and the way other national internet providers have been implementing it. I had a routed /27 with ATT FTTU; every IPv4 address on ATT automatically gets a /60 IPv6 allocation; by extension, my IPv4 /27 was equivalent to IPv6 /55 (plus I also must have had one extra /60 for the IPv4 address in the shared subnet to which my /27 IPv4 subnet was routed). And Linode: upon request, they offer a free /56 to any of their customers, to complement a /32 IPv4 allocation. Many other hosting providers likewise provide a free /48 (some do this by default, some upon request) to anyone who only requires a single IPv4 address otherwise. Likewise, HE's tunnelbroker.net gives out a total of five /48's (per a single account) to anyone who asks; and if you look at it, they're still doing this out of the smallest v6 allocation compared to any other carrier: 2001:470::/32; yes, just a /32, when even Linode has a /30. http://bgp.he.net/AS6939#_prefixes6 And the same example is even true of hetzner.de: they assign a /32 IPv4 for free to every server, and the only IPv6 that they give is a /64, offering no other option at all whatsoever (they do offer the option of another, routed IPv6 /64, but that's it). Yet, unfortunately, hetzner.de is one of the few that doesn't offer any IPv6 at all unless you agree for your private data to go to a public database maintained by RIPE when you request any kind of IPv6 connectivity. It presents an obvious barrier to entry, and limits native IPv6 adoption when huge providers like hetzner.de may require you to give up your privacy for native IPv6, but not for IPv4. So, as per above, in my humble view, a /64 IPv6 allocation is equivalent to a NAT in IPv4 terms. :-) Any provider who insists otherwise (especially when it comes down to actually giving out such addresses), simply tries to be creative about their revenue streams in regards to something that's supposed to be a public resource and that's not even that scarce to begin with. RIPE's policy: When an End User has a network using public address space this must be registered separately with the contact details of the End User. Where the End User is an individual rather than an organisation, the contact information of the service provider may be substituted for the End Users. You have conveniently omitted the prior part of the same paragraph about PtP links. https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-553 IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region 21 May 2012 — address policy, ipv4 « 6.2 Network Infrastructure and End User Networks IP addresses used solely for the connection of an End User to a service provider (e.g. point-to-point links) are considered part of the service provider's infrastructure. These addresses do not have to be registered with the End User's contact details but can be registered as part of the service provider's internal infrastructure. When an End User has a network using public address space this must be registered separately with the contact details of the End User. Where the End User is an individual rather than an organisation, the contact information of the service provider may be substituted for the End Users. » Although written with IPv4 in mind, if you take this paragraph and try to interpret it within IPv6, then the first, non-routed, /64 with hetzner.de can easily be considered a point-to-point link, and due to the plethora of free alternatives people would hardly attempt to use such an allocation in any other way than as indeed a point-to-point link, especially when a second free /64, now routed, is also available. (And even if someone would in fact use their first PtP /64 to create some kind of a VPN and a small home network, then at the internet who-to-blame level how would that be any different whatsoever from them doing a NAT with a /32 IPv4? On the other hand, I do agree that standardised aggregate whois entries detailing the size of individual allocations within a given address space would be very-very useful with IPv6, indeed (else, how do you ban a user by an IP-address?).) Also, consider why so much private information
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IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
RE: Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? Looking for a contact who will reply.
I have, However I was informed the operators were in the middle of a large project at present which means most things are being pushed to a side for several weeks. Regards, Seamus -Original Message- From: Landon Stewart [mailto:lstew...@superb.net] Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:37 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? Looking for a contact who will reply. Hello, Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? We are looking for a contact who will reply. The staff@ type email addresses appear to go into a blackhole or something. -- Landon Stewart lstew...@superb.net Sr. Administrator Systems Engineering Superb Internet Corp - 888-354-6128 x 4199 Web hosting and more Ahead of the Rest: http://www.superbhosting.net
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
Kindly search the archives for many threads on the same subject, which should be the normal practice. nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
On 13 Dec 2012, at 12:25 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. +2c on racktables. Right now we're deprecating IPPlan entirely in favour of Racktables. One day I'll have a round tuit for checking out Netdot. -J
RE: Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? Looking for a contact who will reply.
I have had success in the recent past using their chat channel ... http://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=0channels=sourceforge Joe From: Seamus Ryan s.r...@uber.com.au To: 'NANOG list' nanog@nanog.org Date: 12/13/2012 04:28 AM Subject:RE: Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? Looking for a contact who will reply. I have, However I was informed the operators were in the middle of a large project at present which means most things are being pushed to a side for several weeks. Regards, Seamus -Original Message- From: Landon Stewart [mailto:lstew...@superb.net] Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:37 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? Looking for a contact who will reply. Hello, Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? We are looking for a contact who will reply. The staff@ type email addresses appear to go into a blackhole or something. -- Landon Stewart lstew...@superb.net Sr. Administrator Systems Engineering Superb Internet Corp - 888-354-6128 x 4199 Web hosting and more Ahead of the Rest: http://www.superbhosting.net
Rack space at 1102 Grand St in Kansas City
Looking to see if anyone has 2U of space available at 1102 Grand in Kansas City. We are looking to rack up a router and get a couple single mode cross connects, nothing huge but will be long term and we would expect a contract to be worked out. Joshua Hoppes Network Engineer Cedar Falls Utilities
Re: Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? Looking for a contact who will reply.
Thanks guys for everyone who replied on and off list. I appreciate it immensely. On 13 December 2012 07:30, Joe Loiacono jloia...@csc.com wrote: I have had success in the recent past using their chat channel ... http://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=0channels=sourceforge Joe From: Seamus Ryan s.r...@uber.com.au To: 'NANOG list' nanog@nanog.org Date: 12/13/2012 04:28 AM Subject:RE: Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? Looking for a contact who will reply. I have, However I was informed the operators were in the middle of a large project at present which means most things are being pushed to a side for several weeks. Regards, Seamus -Original Message- From: Landon Stewart [mailto:lstew...@superb.net] Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:37 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? Looking for a contact who will reply. Hello, Has anyone had any response from Sourceforge lately? We are looking for a contact who will reply. The staff@ type email addresses appear to go into a blackhole or something. -- Landon Stewart lstew...@superb.net Sr. Administrator Systems Engineering Superb Internet Corp - 888-354-6128 x 4199 Web hosting and more Ahead of the Rest: http://www.superbhosting.net -- Landon Stewart lstew...@superb.net Sr. Administrator Systems Engineering Superb Internet Corp - 888-354-6128 x 4199 Web hosting and more Ahead of the Rest: http://www.superbhosting.net
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
I've used IPPlan in the past, and it's really useful as a web-based excel-sheet replacement. Plus, the price is right. We're also evaluating Solarwinds' IPAM, but that's way too expensive for the features. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:31 AM, JP Viljoen froztb...@froztbyte.net wrote: On 13 Dec 2012, at 12:25 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. +2c on racktables. Right now we're deprecating IPPlan entirely in favour of Racktables. One day I'll have a round tuit for checking out Netdot. -J -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
A colleague and myself wrote one in PHP that supports v4 and v6. It's available on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/subnetsmngr/?source=directory We like it. Features Manage subnets and hosts IPv4 and IPv6 support All subnetting math done for you. Auto-allocates and collapses subnets Subnet groups Assign customers to subnets and send SWIPs to ARIN PowerDNS integration to update reverse and A records for hosts Jeremy Malli Mammoth Networks On 12/12/2012 6:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
That is a superb suggestion, Aftab. I actually did a search through the archives for IPAM and IP address management and the results were ... unsatisfactory. Perhaps I used the wrong archive, and you direct me to an alternate: http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/ is the one I used. I've looked at IPPLan but have not installed it yet. Does anyone with direct experience with it care to share their view? Much appreciated, Eric From: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com Cc: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:10:24 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Kindly search the archives for many threads on the same subject, which should be the normal practice. nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
Racktables = no IPv6. Bummer, and it does more than what I need. Netdot looks very interesting. It didn't show up when I searched for IPAM. I'll have to evaluate it, to see if it does any kind of wireless documentation (frequency, modulation, etc) Any Netdot users out there who want to comment? Much appreciated, Eric From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org To: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:25:10 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
Thanks Jeremy - looks pretty good, and specific, and I like the DNS integration. I haven't downloaded or installed it yet. Do you think it's robust enough for a 24x7 Network Operations Center that has 8 or so users? Is the database a flat file that is easily backed up and restored? or are you using MySQL? Much appreciated, Eric From: Jeremy Malli jma...@mammothnetworks.com To: nanog@nanog.org; elo...@yahoo.com Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 8:26:17 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP A colleague and myself wrote one in PHP that supports v4 and v6. It's available on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/subnetsmngr/?source=directory Jeremy Malli Mammoth Networks On 12/12/2012 6:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
We're running postgres on the backend due to a limitation we ran into when implementing v6 support in mysql. So standard postgres backup practices would apply. We also run a 24x7 NOC though only 4 support people. It's light on database access so I can't imagine you would have a problem with robustness (it's just PHP/Postgres). We have 8 /19's, a /32 v6 block and a smattering of other blocks that are managed using it. Jeremy On 12/13/2012 10:59 AM, Eric A Louie wrote: Thanks Jeremy - looks pretty good, and specific, and I like the DNS integration. I haven't downloaded or installed it yet. Do you think it's robust enough for a 24x7 Network Operations Center that has 8 or so users? Is the database a flat file that is easily backed up and restored? or are you using MySQL? Much appreciated, Eric *From:* Jeremy Malli jma...@mammothnetworks.com *To:* nanog@nanog.org; elo...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Thu, December 13, 2012 8:26:17 AM *Subject:* Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP A colleague and myself wrote one in PHP that supports v4 and v6. It's available on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/subnetsmngr/?source=directory Jeremy Malli Mammoth Networks On 12/12/2012 6:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
We've been using ipplan, although it seems the racktables demo site does support ipv6. It looks interesting because it could help us in other ways. Still kind of stuck on ipplan until I find a better solution that understands multiple routing tables since I have many mpls vpn's with overlapping address space. - Original Message - From: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com To: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org, Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:54:11 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Racktables = no IPv6. Bummer, and it does more than what I need. Netdot looks very interesting. It didn't show up when I searched for IPAM. I'll have to evaluate it, to see if it does any kind of wireless documentation (frequency, modulation, etc) Any Netdot users out there who want to comment? Much appreciated, Eric From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org To: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:25:10 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
I think 6connect is well worth an eval as well. We've been using it for the InteropNet for a couple of years now and it nicely meets our needs in both v4 and v6, and since you can get it as a hosted application, for a small shop there's zero maintenance. -- Brandon Ross Yahoo AIM: BrandonNRoss +1-404-635-6667ICQ: 2269442 Schedule a meeting: https://doodle.com/brossSkype: brandonross
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
phpipam's VRF support looks fairly decent if you haven't checked it out yet. Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2012, at 13:15, Walter Keen walter.k...@rainierconnect.net wrote: We've been using ipplan, although it seems the racktables demo site does support ipv6. It looks interesting because it could help us in other ways. Still kind of stuck on ipplan until I find a better solution that understands multiple routing tables since I have many mpls vpn's with overlapping address space. - Original Message - From: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com To: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org, Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:54:11 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Racktables = no IPv6. Bummer, and it does more than what I need. Netdot looks very interesting. It didn't show up when I searched for IPAM. I'll have to evaluate it, to see if it does any kind of wireless documentation (frequency, modulation, etc) Any Netdot users out there who want to comment? Much appreciated, Eric From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org To: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:25:10 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. Nobody uses HaCI?
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
On 13 Dec 2012, at 17:54, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: Racktables = no IPv6. Bummer, and it does more than what I need. Really? I could have sworn I was entering ipv6 data into the ipv6 section in racktables yesterday. Netdot looks very interesting. It didn't show up when I searched for IPAM. I'll have to evaluate it, to see if it does any kind of wireless documentation (frequency, modulation, etc) No, it doesn't do that. Nick Any Netdot users out there who want to comment? Much appreciated, Eric From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org To: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:25:10 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
On Wednesday 12 December 2012 17:22:36 Eric A Louie wrote: What are you using and how is it working for you? we are using tipp, and while it doesnt cover all our needs (yet), it's worth a look: http://tipp.tobez.org/ https://github.com/tobez/tipp
RE: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
Eric, you should look at 6connect. They have a good product for IPv4 and IPv6 address management. -Mike -Original Message- From: Eric A Louie [mailto:elo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
RE: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
From: Mike Hale [mailto:eyeronic.des...@gmail.com] We're also evaluating Solarwinds' IPAM, but that's way too expensive for the features. We've got their netflow software and were considering their IPAM for the seamless integration but you're definitely right on the price; it would have been cost nearly the same as adding an annual full time employee just to manage a few /21's and an /18 insane.
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
It looks like it's hosted only - true? That's neither a good or bad - but the MRC could be a concern. Much appreciated, Eric From: Mike Walter mwal...@3z.net To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 12:25:44 PM Subject: RE: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Eric, you should look at 6connect. They have a good product for IPv4 and IPv6 address management. -Mike -Original Message- From: Eric A Louie [mailto:elo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
We migrated from excel to IPPLAN (fairly large corp. network, with 150+ global locations),very easy to setup and import data (CSV). Your cost to try it out is near $0 (only money spent is your own $hour). So far the only issue that we encounter now and then is with the search function, though we haven't had time to tshoot. Other than that I think it's a solid solution, and you can't beat the price :) -- Michael Gatti main. 949.371.5474 (UTC -8) On Dec 13, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: That is a superb suggestion, Aftab. I actually did a search through the archives for IPAM and IP address management and the results were ... unsatisfactory. Perhaps I used the wrong archive, and you direct me to an alternate: http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/ is the one I used. I've looked at IPPLan but have not installed it yet. Does anyone with direct experience with it care to share their view? Much appreciated, Eric From: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com Cc: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:10:24 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Kindly search the archives for many threads on the same subject, which should be the normal practice. nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
They've had an on-premise product in the past, I'm sure it's still an option. Last time I looked at their VRF support it was still lacking, there's supposed to be improvements to it in 1Q13. Sent from my mobile device, so please excuse any horrible misspellings. On Dec 13, 2012, at 15:48, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: It looks like it's hosted only - true? That's neither a good or bad - but the MRC could be a concern. Much appreciated, Eric From: Mike Walter mwal...@3z.net To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 12:25:44 PM Subject: RE: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Eric, you should look at 6connect. They have a good product for IPv4 and IPv6 address management. -Mike -Original Message- From: Eric A Louie [mailto:elo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
On Dec 13, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Mike Walter wrote: Eric, you should look at 6connect. They have a good product for IPv4 and IPv6 address management. Agreed, good product, and they have tie-ins to the Registries for filling out and submitting request templates, etc. -b
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
On 13/12/2012 19:04, Chris Conn wrote: Nobody uses HaCI? I trialled it for an afternoon before blowing it away. I also had a look at tipp, phpipam and a couple of others before settling on netdot for one client and racktables for another. I also got a quote for BT Diamond IP. I managed to stop laughing some weeks later when I found that they had put me on some spam list of theirs with no unsubscribe option and no response to manual unsubscribe requests (although to be fair, they took me off their spam list about a year later after several more manual requests to be removed). Nick
Advisory — D-root is changing its IPv4 address on the 3rd of January.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Advisory — D-root is changing its IPv4 address on the 3rd of January. This is advance notice that there is a scheduled change to the IPv4 address for one of the authorities listed for the DNS root zone and the .ARPA TLD. The change is to D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, which is administered by the University of Maryland. The new IPv4 address for this authority is 199.7.91.13 The current IPv6 address for this authority is 2001:500:2d::d and it will continue to remain unchanged. This change is anticipated to be implemented in the root zone on 3 January 2013, however the new address is currently operational. It will replace the previous IP address of 128.8.10.90 (also once known as TERP.UMD.EDU). We encourage operators of DNS infrastructure to update any references to the old IP address, and replace it with the new address. In particular, many DNS resolvers have a DNS root “hints” file. This should be updated with the new IP address. New hints files will be available at the following URLs once the change has been formally executed: http://www.internic.net/domain/named.root http://www.internic.net/domain/named.cache The old address will continue to work for at least six months after the transition, but will ultimately be retired from service. - -- Jason Castonguay Network Integration Software Engineer Division of Information Technology University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlDKXLEACgkQA5NiLuECHn4lRQCgoOlYQhq+kXk2Az3nPeN1hUfz 0e4AoKCwp0cLpABJFc/7RV5E/ecfWwoJ =ktnM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
