Re: Class E addresses in the wild

2013-03-21 Thread George Herbert
It is (or was) fairly commonly in use among internal nets which
overflowed RFC 1918 or have to internetwork with other heavy users of
RFC 1918 space.  I know of at least two service providers and one cell
network who were using it for that 3 years ago.

Someone leaking internal routes for such?  Or attempt to hijack the space?

Only the Shadow knows...


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Donald Eastlake d3e...@gmail.com wrote:
 No authorized IETF use that I know of. See
 http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml

 Thanks,
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 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Buz Dale buzd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is anyone else seeing a lot of Class E address space (240.0.0.0/4) at their
 borders?  Has this space been reinstated in some as yet unknown to me RFC?
 Thanks,
 Buz

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Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Barry Shein

Wasn't this problem solved by foursquare.com?!




/joke


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Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread Josh Hoppes
 But what I don't understand is why everyone implies that the status
 quo with round-robin DNS is any better.

I don't think anyone believes round robin DNS records is better. It's
that attempting to do better requires adding onto or changing
standards that must maintain backwards compatibility and thus nearly
useless until everyone adopts it, or hack jobs that have hilariously
funny failure scenarios that are unavoidable because it comes down to
guess work.



Re: Class E addresses in the wild

2013-03-21 Thread cb.list6
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:06 PM, George Herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is (or was) fairly commonly in use among internal nets which
 overflowed RFC 1918 or have to internetwork with other heavy users of
 RFC 1918 space.  I know of at least two service providers and one cell
 network who were using it for that 3 years ago.


I am pretty sure Class E is completely defunct and not used anywhere
since Cisco and Juniper routers do not forward the packets (circa 2008
testing) and no known host accept it as a valid address, AFAIK.

CB

 Someone leaking internal routes for such?  Or attempt to hijack the space?

 Only the Shadow knows...


 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Donald Eastlake d3e...@gmail.com wrote:
 No authorized IETF use that I know of. See
 http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml

 Thanks,
 Donald
 =
  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
  155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
  d3e...@gmail.com


 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Buz Dale buzd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is anyone else seeing a lot of Class E address space (240.0.0.0/4) at their
 borders?  Has this space been reinstated in some as yet unknown to me RFC?
 Thanks,
 Buz

 --
 Buz Dale
 buzd...@gmail.com
 GMT -5
 --



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 buzd...@gmail.com
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Re: Class E addresses in the wild

2013-03-21 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM, cb.list6 cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am pretty sure Class E is completely defunct and not used anywhere
 since Cisco and Juniper routers do not forward the packets (circa 2008
 testing) and no known host accept it as a valid address, AFAIK.

Both the net and host sides of this are trivially repairable problems,
even for crazy cellphone network operators.  As long as you have host
source code and a network vendor you can demand custom patches
from


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