RE: Variety, On The Media, don't understand the Internet

2013-05-16 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Maybe we should try poetry,


Human, you tied the soul, 
You will not behold joy if you break down that wall, 
So why the leaving beam is calling you, 
Brick by brick, slowly one by one, ... 
hoping to at least catch a glimpse of ray. 

Translated from: 
Kingmaker
(Life ... in a nest of copper)
By: Rikin


adam

-Original Message-
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:07 PM
To: Jean-Francois Mezei
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Variety, On The Media, don't understand the Internet


On May 15, 2013, at 09:59 , Jean-Francois Mezei
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote:

 On 13-05-15 09:02, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
 
 So it's only on the Internet if it uses a provider's transit capacity?


All of this is leading me to the following conclusion:

If we, as network engineers can't agree on the nature and definition of the
internet, how can we possibly expect the media to understand it?

Owen






Re: CDN server log

2013-05-16 Thread Djamel Sadok
Hi Pete,

I do not use a CDN I am only interested in analyzing content popularity in
logs. These could be anonymized.

Djamel



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Pete Mastin pmas...@internap.com wrote:

 Hi djamel.  If I understand your question - you should take a look at what
 sawmill offers. Many of our clients use this product to analyze our cdn
 produced logs.

 http://www.sawmill.net/



 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 15, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Djamel Sadok ja...@cin.ufpe.br wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Anyone knows of any public CDN server log trace. I am looking for object
  popularity, hit rate information, ...
 
  Thanks, Djamel
 




Re: Variety, On The Media, don't understand the Internet

2013-05-16 Thread David Temkin
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei 
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote:



 Netflix's policy does require a minimum amount of traffic before an ISP
 can deploy an Open Connect appliance. So smaller ISPs are at a
 disadvantage if they are located in a city without CDN presence.


To be clear - the purpose of this policy is to ensure that people who
deploy appliances use them in the best way possible for their network.
 Anything less than the minimum amount of traffic and the appliance uses
more bandwidth to fill than serve and you end up in a race of diminishing
returns.  We're always happy to try to find the best solution for any
network, even those too small for an OCA.

For more info see http://openconnect.netflix.com

Regards,
-Dave


Re: CDN server log

2013-05-16 Thread Michal Krsek

Hi Djamel,
I'm not sure what you are looking for.

There is variety of CDN content and popularity is being driven by users 
and designers.


If you have CDN that serves pictures, you get most hits on design 
pictures, for paid VoD, you get most hits on free trailers. For CatchTV 
tup you get most hits on new arrivals of popular content. It also 
depends on geo distribution. Global CDNs get different coverage than 
regional ones. For live transmissions, you get a lot of content when 
covering big sports events.


For adult based content CDN ... you can imagine ...

Just talking in general, having no permission to provide any log.

With kind regards
Michal


Dne 16.5.2013 15:16, Djamel Sadok napsal(a):

Hi Pete,

I do not use a CDN I am only interested in analyzing content popularity in
logs. These could be anonymized.

Djamel



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Pete Mastin pmas...@internap.com wrote:


Hi djamel.  If I understand your question - you should take a look at what
sawmill offers. Many of our clients use this product to analyze our cdn
produced logs.

http://www.sawmill.net/



Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Djamel Sadok ja...@cin.ufpe.br wrote:


Hi,

Anyone knows of any public CDN server log trace. I am looking for object
popularity, hit rate information, ...

Thanks, Djamel








Call for papers / DENOG5

2013-05-16 Thread Hibler, Florian

Dear NANOG list,
I just checked with grizz, before posting this request here.

**

DENOG 5 - Call for Participation and Papers

The fifth meeting of the German Network Operators Group (DENOG) will be
held in Darmstadt, Germany on the 14th of November 2013. We are pleased
to hereby invite applications for presentations or lightning talks to be
held at this event.

General Information
===
DENOG is a community for professionals within Germany who are operating,
designing or researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum
where those working on, with and for the Internet can come together to
solve problems with every aspect of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other
professionals close to the network community.

More information about DENOG (in German) can be found at
 http://www.denog.de/
Information about the meeting will be published at
 http://www.denog.de/meetings/

Meeting Countdown
=
What   When
--
Publication of Call for Papers April 18th, 2013
Deadline for all submissions   June 19th, 2013
Publication of final program   August 16th, 2013
Deadline for receipt of final present. November 8th, 2013
Meeting DayNovember 14th, 2013

Topics for Presentations/Talks
==
The day will be divided into several sessions. The number and length of
presentations per session is not fixed, although due to time constraints
we would prefer the length of the presentations to be between 15 to 30
minutes.

However proposals whose subject fall outside of the topics below are
also welcome; please do not hesitate to submit them.

Topic #1: Virtual network infrastructure
---
Clouds are everywhere. Virtualization is the way to consolidate 
servers and lower the cost as well as the administrative overhead. But 
what about virtualizing network infrastructure like routers, firewalls, 
etc.? We see certain approaches of these technologies on the market now. 
Which company would be the right target? How does it scale?


Topic #2: Issues affecting the global internet infrastructure
-
Cyber attacks, software bugs, route-hijacking incidents and denial of
service attacks are common in todays internet, not only affecting single
companies, carriers or enterprises but sometimes even entire countries.
One of the examples was Cloudflare in March 2013. What was really 
affected? Was it a global issue? In this light securing the global 
internet infrastructure is a major topic amongst entities relying on the 
internet.


Topic #3: Peering
--
Everything about your peering experience. Why are you doing it? How are
you doing it? Have you written any useful tools which others might find
interesting? What are the issues you are facing?

Topic #4: Network  resource planning
---
Around the world we see large companies consuming lots of bandwidth for 
new media services like YouTube, Netflix, Akamai etc.
Forecasting and planning of capactiy is an essential part of quality 
assurance to keep your users/subscribers happy. What are the best 
techniques to evaluate traffic levels to certain providers? How to 
manage the flow of traffic in the best way under the aspect of 
commerical and engineering views?


Topic #5: ISP BOF
-
All things ISP. From Network/SLA Management (for or against it), abuse
handling and log systems to data centre layout and planning (including
power and cooling), everything that is interesting to you as an ISP can
be presented or discussed within this topic.

Lightning Talks
---
In addition to the topics mentioned below we will reserve slots for
lightning talks, which consist of a few slides and will not last longer
than 5 minutes. Lightning talks can be submitted until November 8th,
with the deadline for submission of the corresponding slides being
November 13th.

Language of Slides and Talks

To appeal to an international audience we ask you to produce your slides
in English, but the spoken language of the presentation itself can be
either German or English.

Submission Guidelines
=
All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies
whose sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request you to register at
http://pc.denog.de/denog5/cfp
If you have further questions, you can reach the program committee at
denog...@denog.de.

We also welcome suggestions for specific 

Looking for Netflow analysis package

2013-05-16 Thread Laura Smith
Hello Erik,


Scrutinizer from http://www.plixer.com/ supports all of those features you 
listed and scales to over 100K flows/second.
http://www.plixer.com/Scrutinizer-Netflow-Sflow/scrutinizer.html


Good luck with your search.


--

Does anyone know of a netflow collector that will do the following. 
*Graph/List Destination Networks By Top AS 
*Graph/List Destination Networks By Top IP Address 
*AS Path Analysis 
*Traffic Type (ICMP, TCP, UDP, IPSEC, HTTP, SSH, SMTP, etc..) 

We will be using this to help us decide who to Peer with and what transit 
Providers to look at. 

I am familiar with Arbor Network's Peak Flow utility but it's a little too 
pricy. 
I also found AS-Stats https://neon1.net/as-stats/ look promising from the power 
point on their page. 

Thanks 
Erik 



RE: Looking for Netflow analysis package

2013-05-16 Thread Meshier, Brent
Laura,

Do not appreciate the cold call from Plixer.  Please do not use the NANOG 
mailing list as your personal directory for sales leads.  It's a sure fire way 
to get your company blacklisted among IT professionals.

--Brent

-Original Message-
From: Laura Smith [mailto:leavingi...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:51 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Looking for Netflow analysis package

Hello Erik,


Scrutinizer from http://www.plixer.com/ supports all of those features you 
listed and scales to over 100K flows/second.
http://www.plixer.com/Scrutinizer-Netflow-Sflow/scrutinizer.html


Good luck with your search.


--

Does anyone know of a netflow collector that will do the following. *Graph/List 
Destination Networks By Top AS *Graph/List Destination Networks By Top IP 
Address *AS Path Analysis *Traffic Type (ICMP, TCP, UDP, IPSEC, HTTP, SSH, 
SMTP, etc..)

We will be using this to help us decide who to Peer with and what transit 
Providers to look at.

I am familiar with Arbor Network's Peak Flow utility but it's a little too 
pricy. I also found AS-Stats https://neon1.net/as-stats/ look promising from 
the power point on their page.

Thanks
Erik



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Re: Looking for Netflow analysis package

2013-05-16 Thread Thomas Cannon

That wasn't in your signature's disclaimer. Perhaps now would be a good time to 
add it?

Geez.

--tc

On May 16, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Meshier, Brent bmesh...@amherst.com wrote:

 Laura,
 
 Do not appreciate the cold call from Plixer.  Please do not use the NANOG 
 mailing list as your personal directory for sales leads.  It's a sure fire 
 way to get your company blacklisted among IT professionals.
 
 --Brent
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Laura Smith [mailto:leavingi...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:51 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Looking for Netflow analysis package
 
 Hello Erik,
 
 
 Scrutinizer from http://www.plixer.com/ supports all of those features you 
 listed and scales to over 100K flows/second.
 http://www.plixer.com/Scrutinizer-Netflow-Sflow/scrutinizer.html
 
 
 Good luck with your search.
 
 
 --
 
 Does anyone know of a netflow collector that will do the following. 
 *Graph/List Destination Networks By Top AS *Graph/List Destination Networks 
 By Top IP Address *AS Path Analysis *Traffic Type (ICMP, TCP, UDP, IPSEC, 
 HTTP, SSH, SMTP, etc..)
 
 We will be using this to help us decide who to Peer with and what transit 
 Providers to look at.
 
 I am familiar with Arbor Network's Peak Flow utility but it's a little too 
 pricy. I also found AS-Stats https://neon1.net/as-stats/ look promising from 
 the power point on their page.
 
 Thanks
 Erik
 
 
 
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Re: Looking for Netflow analysis package

2013-05-16 Thread Scott Weeks

 Does anyone know of a netflow collector that will do the following. 
snip


-Original Message-
 From: Laura Smith [mailto:leavingi...@yahoo.com]
UCE snipped out
--

-Meshier, Brent wrote: 
 Do not appreciate the cold call from Plixer.  Please do not use the 
 NANOG mailing list as your personal directory for sales leads.  It's a 
 sure fire way to get your company blacklisted among IT professionals.
-


 tcan...@beatsmusic.com wrote: --
From: Thomas Cannon tcan...@beatsmusic.com

That wasn't in your signature's disclaimer. Perhaps now would be a good 
time to add it?


You haven't been here long have you...  

He DOES NOT need a 260 word signature (see below!) to make sure he does 
not get UCE from posting to NANOG.  For any other sales folks out there
considering doing this, Brent's warning is a good one: It's a sure fire 
way to get your company blacklisted among IT professionals.
 
scott


ps.  WTF is this?!?
 

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whoami.akamai.net

2013-05-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
As the whoami.akamai.net hostname came up on the list, I thought I'd mention it 
here.

The hostname 'whoami.akamai.com' is a CNAME for whoami.akamai.net. That CNAME 
is, frankly, a mistake. It will be removed soon. If you are using the .com 
name, please move to the .net name.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick



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BGP instability?

2013-05-16 Thread Thomas St-Pierre
Hi,

Did anyone else see a large amount of instability between around 12:20am and 
3:10am? (UTC, May 17th) We saw around 9 million announces per hour during that 
period come in through all our upstreams (vs an average normal of around 128k 
per hour).

Just curious as to what happened, if anything.

Thanks,
Thomas