Re: EIGRP support !Cisco
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 08/01/2014 18:14, Christopher Morrow wrote: question... there's people that have done this before even :) https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog29/presentations/gill.pdf oh yea! that guy! I hear he's done this sort of thing a few times now... probably has practice and tools and stuff :) Hey... Tools why not... Control+Click... select all the routers Right click Upgrade IGP to ISIS Go grab a drink... Come back... Done click OK. No more Eigrp. I suppose PuTTy / SecureCRT haven't added the feature yet... perhaps in a few releases? :) -- -JH
Re: bcp38.info wiki signup problem
Well, Out of 25 accounts, 22 where for spamming. Even with captcha, etc. Since then I put a mention to contact modera...@bcp38.info for account creation. You'll see it if you are going through the [Log in] link http://www.bcp38.info/index.php?title=Special:UserLoginreturnto=Main+Page You're right, directly to [Sign up] wont work. Sorry :( - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 On 01/23/14 23:03, Jay Ashworth wrote: A kind soul has just pointed out to me that the register link on the BCP38 wiki: http://www.bcp38.info/index.php?title=Special:UserLoginreturnto=Main+Pagetype=signup isn't, um, working right now. I guess that might explain the lack of contributions. Oops. We'll get right on that, folks. :-} Cheers, -- jra
About ddos-respo...@nfoservers.com
Well, Those poor guys are under perma DNS Amplifcation DDoS for what seems to be 2 weeks now. About 7 days ago they started sending us emails for what is less than 2MB worth of data (~500 packets) which is about how long it takes for filters to take effect. But after 1 week of communication they are not changing their procedures :( Anyone else receiving those emails? - Since most providers (at any level) are not putting any effort on BCP38. Is there a [Spoofing Tracking Squad] out there? ( We're on GT-T/nLayer/Tinet ) -- - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443
Re: About ddos-respo...@nfoservers.com
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net wrote: Well, Those poor guys are under perma DNS Amplifcation DDoS for what seems to be 2 weeks now. they seem to be hosted at internap, you'd think they could just ask internap to fix this for them instead, eh?
Re: About ddos-respo...@nfoservers.com
On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net wrote: Is there a [Spoofing Tracking Squad] out there? ( We're on GT-T/nLayer/Tinet ) You haven’t been able to get GTT/nLayer/TINet to track the traffic back? Details are welcome, either here or in private. There are plenty of people who will chase and fix this stuff when they’re aware of it. - Jared
Re: About ddos-respo...@nfoservers.com
On Jan 24, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: You haven’t been able to get GTT/nLayer/TINet to track the traffic back? Details are welcome, either here or in private. There are plenty of people who will chase and fix this stuff when they’re aware of it. When OpenResolver Project was announced, there were about 60 abusable addresses in my corner of the Internet. I was able to get that number down under 20 by asking politely. The NFOserver reports have been a pretty good stick to get the number down below 10. --Chris
Re: About ddos-respo...@nfoservers.com
On 24 January 2014 16:23, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com wrote: On Jan 24, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: You haven’t been able to get GTT/nLayer/TINet to track the traffic back? Details are welcome, either here or in private. There are plenty of people who will chase and fix this stuff when they’re aware of it. When OpenResolver Project was announced, there were about 60 abusable addresses in my corner of the Internet. I was able to get that number down under 20 by asking politely. The NFOserver reports have been a pretty good stick to get the number down below 10. http://dns.measurement-factory.com/surveys/openresolvers/ASN-reports/latest.html Uh.. Oh. I see a lot of references to Teléfonica in Latin America. -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.
L2TPv3 - and layer 2 PDU's
To all, Has anyone successfully tunneled L2 PDU's (STP, CDP, LLDP) over a L2TPv3 pseudowire tunnel, i.e. should I be able to see CDP neighbors across the tunnel? For some reason if I encapsulated dot1q on a router sub-interface and try and pass traffic across the trunk the downstream switch port will go into err-disable. Thx Philip
Re: L2TPv3 - and layer 2 PDU's
Yes, 10 years ago on 10720, CDP and LACP worked like a charm Regards, Jeff On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Philip Lavine source_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: To all, Has anyone successfully tunneled L2 PDU's (STP, CDP, LLDP) over a L2TPv3 pseudowire tunnel, i.e. should I be able to see CDP neighbors across the tunnel? For some reason if I encapsulated dot1q on a router sub-interface and try and pass traffic across the trunk the downstream switch port will go into err-disable. Thx Philip
Time Warner RoadRunner Residental NOC Contact?
Sorry for the noise, but we are looking for somebody that can help us track down a single IP address that is seemingly blackholed by TW/RR in a core somewhere in Atlanta. We have verified that the IP doesn't have any abuse history and isn't blackholed from our end. Just started this morning. Any assistance is appreciated. Tom Walsh EWS - ASN53255 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
AOL Email Blocking
A while back I enlisted help for setting up a small email list server. It is now complete but only AOL is blocking my outbound email. Using their tools they did not report my IP as having a bad reputation. I applied for white listing my single IP and provided ALL the necessary feedback and white listing was denied. Can anyone here point me to someone to get this fixed. It is a small private email list for a local fire department with all consenting recipients. Robert
Weekly Routing Table Report
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith pfsi...@gmail.com. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 25 Jan, 2014 Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary BGP routing table entries examined: 479892 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 190818 Deaggregation factor: 2.51 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 237486 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 45998 Prefixes per ASN: 10.43 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 35541 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 16285 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:6006 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:168 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.6 Max AS path length visible: 53 Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 50404) 51 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 2707 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 648 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 5746 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:4451 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 14112 Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table:0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 2018 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2663146148 Equivalent to 158 /8s, 188 /16s and 98 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 71.9 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 71.9 Percentage of available address space allocated: 100.0 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 95.4 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 166690 APNIC Region Analysis Summary - Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 114387 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 34391 APNIC Deaggregation factor:3.33 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 116810 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:48876 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4888 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 23.90 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1224 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:840 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:4.6 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 28 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:814 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 729945088 Equivalent to 43 /8s, 130 /16s and 20 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 85.3 APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 63488-63999, 131072-133631 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:163875 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:82068 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.00 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 164320 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 75852 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:15934 ARIN
Re: AOL Email Blocking
On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Robert Webb rw...@ropeguru.com wrote: A while back I enlisted help for setting up a small email list server. It is now complete but only AOL is blocking my outbound email. Using their tools they did not report my IP as having a bad reputation. I applied for white listing my single IP and provided ALL the necessary feedback and white listing was denied. Can anyone here point me to someone to get this fixed. It is a small private email list for a local fire department with all consenting recipients. What your logs are saying? Have you read the bounces? signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: AOL Email Blocking
On 01/24/2014 01:14 PM, Robert Webb wrote: A while back I enlisted help for setting up a small email list server. It is now complete but only AOL is blocking my outbound email. Using their tools they did not report my IP as having a bad reputation. I applied for white listing my single IP and provided ALL the necessary feedback and white listing was denied. Can anyone here point me to someone to get this fixed. It is a small private email list for a local fire department with all consenting recipients. Robert Thanks to everyone that has responded. The issue has been addressed and worked out. For those of you that asked, I was getting the following: 421 DYN:T1 * The IP address you are sending from has been temporarily rate limited due to lack of whitelisting http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Whitelist.php, unexpected changes in volume, or poor IP reputation http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Reputation.php. Robert Webb
Re: AOL Email Blocking
On 1/24/2014 2:53 PM, Robert Webb wrote: A while back I enlisted help for setting up a small email list server. It is now complete but only AOL is blocking my outbound email. Send me your IP (off list if desired) and I'll evaluate it and possibly provide some feedback that may be helpful! -- Rob McEwen http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/ r...@invaluement.com +1 (478) 475-9032
Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
Given how much traffic these days is CDN and streaming, is that number really supportable? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
On Jan 24, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Given how much traffic these days is CDN and streaming, is that number really supportable? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet http://www.seattleix.net/agg.htm http://www.torix.ca/stats.php Obviously not definitive, but I don't see a massive drop in traffic during the outage, at least on the two public exchanges listed above. It would be interesting to see if there was a concurrent increase in traffic to other sites (Facebook, Yahoo, etc.) while people couldn't check their email. Mike
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
On 01/24/2014 09:08 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Given how much traffic these days is CDN and streaming, is that number really supportable? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet In the interview they are saying that if Google is down, lots of people don't have DNS anymore. So that accounts for an even larger drop than just no Youtube. Hmm - why would people use those resolvers, besides being lazy in configuring a proper resolver-address. Of course if Google is down we have no Google search (well, might be a problem in some cases), no Gmail etc. (fine with me) and no Youtube (hmm, but we'll survive without it). Come on ... If the average user is *so* dependent on Google, we have an even larger problem. Maybe like IPv6-day etc. lets try a Google outage day once a year as a training :-) Regards, Stefan
RE: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.
I understand OSPF default calculation for cost doesn't include delay. I am looking for a formula that I can use to manually set the OSPF costs that factors in delay. When using OSPF's default costs, the shortest path is not always the optimal path. Example New York to Los Angeles. Assuming all links are the same bandwidth and have a ospf cost of 1. Path 1 (75ms) - OSPF Cost 2 - New York Dallas Los Angeles Path 2 (65ms) - OSPF Cost 3 - New York Chicago Denver Los Angeles If I left the default cost's alone then path 1 would win because it has a lower ospf cost, however it take traffic 10ms longer to get there. However I would like traffic to take Path 2 by adjusting the OSPF cost. I am looking for a formula that other people are using .p Thanks Erik -Original Message- From: Randy [mailto:randy_94...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:03 PM To: Erik Sundberg; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. - Original Message - From: Erik Sundberg esundb...@nitelusa.com To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. What is everyone using for an OSPF cost formula that factors in a circuits delay and bandwidth (10M-100G)??? Thanks in advance umm..are you sure your question is not about EIGRP? OSPF has no concept of interface-delays. The default reference bandwidth for OSPF is 100M In your case if you set your reference bandwidth to 10 your 100G links would have a link cost of 1, 10G - 10, 1G-100, 100M-1000 and 10M-1 A vendor specific list would be a better place to ask. ./Randy CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you.
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
- Original Message - From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet It's just been pointed out to me that, even though Marketplace just posted the link to that piece, the dateline is from August. My apologies for not noticing. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Stefan Neufeind na...@stefan-neufeind.de wrote: In the interview they are saying that if Google is down, lots of people don't have DNS anymore. So that accounts for an even larger drop than just no Youtube. Hmm - why would people use those resolvers, besides being lazy in configuring a proper resolver-address. it's a bit perjorative to say 'lazy' isn't it? what if your ISP does monkey business with nxdomain or other requests? would you like it better if people used opendns? or 4.2.2.2? (a non-sla service from a fourth party...) I'm a fan of my own resolver, but not everyone has a dns resolver in they back pocket, right?
Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.
Some networks I have worked with took the average latency of each link and assigned that (with some constant multiple) as the interface cost. Of course this all fails miserably if you are using anything like MPLS underneath your OSPF. Owen On Jan 24, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Erik Sundberg esundb...@nitelusa.com wrote: I understand OSPF default calculation for cost doesn't include delay. I am looking for a formula that I can use to manually set the OSPF costs that factors in delay. When using OSPF's default costs, the shortest path is not always the optimal path. Example New York to Los Angeles. Assuming all links are the same bandwidth and have a ospf cost of 1. Path 1 (75ms) - OSPF Cost 2 - New York Dallas Los Angeles Path 2 (65ms) - OSPF Cost 3 - New York Chicago Denver Los Angeles If I left the default cost's alone then path 1 would win because it has a lower ospf cost, however it take traffic 10ms longer to get there. However I would like traffic to take Path 2 by adjusting the OSPF cost. I am looking for a formula that other people are using .p Thanks Erik -Original Message- From: Randy [mailto:randy_94...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:03 PM To: Erik Sundberg; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. - Original Message - From: Erik Sundberg esundb...@nitelusa.com To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. What is everyone using for an OSPF cost formula that factors in a circuits delay and bandwidth (10M-100G)??? Thanks in advance umm..are you sure your question is not about EIGRP? OSPF has no concept of interface-delays. The default reference bandwidth for OSPF is 100M In your case if you set your reference bandwidth to 10 your 100G links would have a link cost of 1, 10G - 10, 1G-100, 100M-1000 and 10M-1 A vendor specific list would be a better place to ask. ./Randy CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you.
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
- Original Message - From: Stefan Neufeind na...@stefan-neufeind.de On 01/24/2014 09:08 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Given how much traffic these days is CDN and streaming, is that number really supportable? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet In the interview they are saying that if Google is down, lots of people don't have DNS anymore. So that accounts for an even larger drop than just no Youtube. Hmm - why would people use those resolvers, besides being lazy in configuring a proper resolver-address. The amount of fun I had before I discovered ipconfig /flushdns suggests to me that that's not really a supportable argument. Of course if Google is down we have no Google search (well, might be a problem in some cases), no Gmail etc. (fine with me) and no Youtube (hmm, but we'll survive without it). Come on ... If the average user is *so* dependent on Google, we have an even larger problem. Maybe like IPv6-day etc. lets try a Google outage day once a year as a training :-) We just did; weren't you paying attention? :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
On 1/24/2014 12:31 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Jay Ashworthj...@baylink.com http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet It's just been pointed out to me that, even though Marketplace just posted the link to that piece, the dateline is from August. My apologies for not noticing. You sure? I think that there is an actual outage, unrelated to the article you'd posted. http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/24/gmail-glitch-is-causing-thousands-of-emails-to-be-sent-to-one-mans-hotmail-account/ Of course, I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. -- Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. How To Build A Universe That Doesn't Fall Apart Two Days Later Philip K. Dick (1928–1982)
RE: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.
Some networks I have worked with took the average latency of each link and assigned that (with some constant multiple) as the interface cost. Of course this all fails miserably if you are using anything like MPLS underneath your OSPF. But then when using MPLS underneath, then MPLS Traffic Engineering can be used to do some interesting path computations and resiliency configurations. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:22:58 +0100, Stefan Neufeind said: just no Youtube. Hmm - why would people use those resolvers, besides being lazy in configuring a proper resolver-address. A lot of people make value judgements on the relative likelyhood of finding evil in DNS packets coming from 8.8.8.8 versus DNS packets coming from the IP address handed to you in the DHCP reply pgpJSzS85ctVB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: About ddos-respo...@nfoservers.com
Hi, Well the abusers started to use burst and then switching targeted IP. Last time I opened a ticket with GT-T/nLayer for a ~120Mbps NTP DDoS Amplification attempt toward 2 of my IP's. . after 2h, I called them directly to be told they lost my original request; . after 4h, got told it wasn't assigned yet; . after 12h, they finally applied the filter as the amp attempt stopped; Based on that experience... why bother. To give you an idea, in the past 4 days and 30m queries, I'm up to 1100 blocked targets on one of my DNS Servers. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 On 01/24/14 09:36, Jared Mauch wrote: On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net wrote: Is there a [Spoofing Tracking Squad] out there? ( We're on GT-T/nLayer/Tinet ) You haven’t been able to get GTT/nLayer/TINet to track the traffic back? Details are welcome, either here or in private. There are plenty of people who will chase and fix this stuff when they’re aware of it. - Jared
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
On 14-01-24 03:40 PM, Shrdlu wrote: On 1/24/2014 12:31 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Jay Ashworthj...@baylink.com http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet It's just been pointed out to me that, even though Marketplace just posted the link to that piece, the dateline is from August. My apologies for not noticing. You sure? I think that there is an actual outage, unrelated to the article you'd posted. http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/24/gmail-glitch-is-causing-thousands-of-emails-to-be-sent-to-one-mans-hotmail-account/ Of course, I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. Actual source http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=env=status -Gabe
Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.
Eric, Issues: 1.OSPF (SPF) can only produce a SPT based on cost (metric). Anything else would require CSPF rather than SPF. 2. Delay is not distributed as part of an IGP update Typical constrains distributed are: bandwidth, color, some others In IETF we are working to also be able to distribute those kinds of metrics (draft-ietf-ospf/isis-te-metric-extensions) draft-ietf-mpls-te-express-path defines how to use these metrics for RSVP-TE (computation result is an ERO) however theoretically nothing precludes one (implementation) to use those for more comprehensive computation, i.e. delay could be taken into consideration as long as the path is loop free. So it would look like - compute all loop free paths to a destination and then choose one with the smallest cumulative delay. BTW - segment routing will give you this functionality day one :) Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: Erik Sundberg esundb...@nitelusa.com Date: Friday, January 24, 2014 12:26 PM To: Randy randy_94...@yahoo.com, nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. I understand OSPF default calculation for cost doesn't include delay. I am looking for a formula that I can use to manually set the OSPF costs that factors in delay. When using OSPF's default costs, the shortest path is not always the optimal path. Example New York to Los Angeles. Assuming all links are the same bandwidth and have a ospf cost of 1. Path 1 (75ms) - OSPF Cost 2 - New York Dallas Los Angeles Path 2 (65ms) - OSPF Cost 3 - New York Chicago Denver Los Angeles If I left the default cost's alone then path 1 would win because it has a lower ospf cost, however it take traffic 10ms longer to get there. However I would like traffic to take Path 2 by adjusting the OSPF cost. I am looking for a formula that other people are using .p Thanks Erik -Original Message- From: Randy [mailto:randy_94...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:03 PM To: Erik Sundberg; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. - Original Message - From: Erik Sundberg esundb...@nitelusa.com To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. What is everyone using for an OSPF cost formula that factors in a circuits delay and bandwidth (10M-100G)??? Thanks in advance umm..are you sure your question is not about EIGRP? OSPF has no concept of interface-delays. The default reference bandwidth for OSPF is 100M In your case if you set your reference bandwidth to 10 your 100G links would have a link cost of 1, 10G - 10, 1G-100, 100M-1000 and 10M-1 A vendor specific list would be a better place to ask. ./Randy CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you.
Opensource tools for inventory and troubleticketing
Hello everyone, I work for a small service provider starting to offer MPLS services between Europe and several african countries. At present time we own a small Cisco network, but we are starting to need a better inventory of services and network resources and better troubleticketing procedures. We can not afford acquiring complicated and expensive tools at present time.I would be grateful if you could recommend me opensource tools to cover these needs. Thanks in advance Kind regards Octavio
Re: AOL Email Blocking
Robert, Please email me the details. Also please provide the ticket number for investigation. Thanks. Vish Subramanian AOL Mail Postmaster Operations -Original Message- From: Robert Webb rw...@ropeguru.com To: nanog nanog@nanog.org Sent: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 1:17 pm Subject: AOL Email Blocking A while back I enlisted help for setting up a small email list server. It is now complete but only AOL is blocking my outbound email. Using their tools they did not report my IP as having a bad reputation. I applied for white listing my single IP and provided ALL the necessary feedback and white listing was denied. Can anyone here point me to someone to get this fixed. It is a small private email list for a local fire department with all consenting recipients. Robert
Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.
On Jan 24, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Raymond Burkholder r...@oneunified.net wrote: Some networks I have worked with took the average latency of each link and assigned that (with some constant multiple) as the interface cost. Of course this all fails miserably if you are using anything like MPLS underneath your OSPF. But then when using MPLS underneath, then MPLS Traffic Engineering can be used to do some interesting path computations and resiliency configurations. I wasn’t attempting to promote or discourage use of MPLS. I was merely endeavoring to point out that in an MPLS world, OSPF costs are not how you want to manage your traffic. Owen
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
- Original Message - From: Shrdlu shr...@deaddrop.org You sure? I think that there is an actual outage, unrelated to the article you'd posted. http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/24/gmail-glitch-is-causing-thousands-of-emails-to-be-sent-to-one-mans-hotmail-account/ There was an outage today, and that was why Marketplace linked their piece on Facebook, which is where I saw, it, but the piece was not about today's outage. I was mislead, because there were 2 or 3 other pieces in the tech press already in other places that *were* about today's outage. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Re: Opensource tools for inventory and troubleticketing
- Original Message - From: Octavio Alfageme palae...@palaemon.es we are starting to need a better inventory of services and network resources and better troubleticketing procedures. We can not afford acquiring complicated and expensive tools at present time.I would be grateful if you could recommend me opensource tools to cover these needs. Yeah, it was about time for this thread again. My networks are smaller than yours, but I have found that you can stretch Bugzilla a lot farther as a ticketing system than it's software development roots might suggest. It handles workflow, to a degree, and is pretty easy to learn. If you can't, RT is pretty nice, though quite a bit more complex. It used to have an asset tracking snap-on, but I don't know what the status of that is now that the main package has revved to 4.0. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Re: About ddos-respo...@nfoservers.com
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net wrote: Hi, Well the abusers started to use burst and then switching targeted IP. Last time I opened a ticket with GT-T/nLayer for a ~120Mbps NTP DDoS Amplification attempt toward 2 of my IP's. . after 2h, I called them directly to be told they lost my original request; . after 4h, got told it wasn't assigned yet; . after 12h, they finally applied the filter as the amp attempt stopped; Based on that experience... why bother. there are providers that have services to stop this sort of thing, there is at least one provider that does that stuff for free... you could vote with your wallet, of course. To give you an idea, in the past 4 days and 30m queries, I'm up to 1100 blocked targets on one of my DNS Servers. that's a bummer.
The Cidr Report
This report has been generated at Fri Jan 24 21:13:35 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date PrefixesCIDR Agg 17-01-14489707 274073 18-01-14489328 274221 19-01-14489528 274495 20-01-14489868 274381 21-01-14490079 274474 22-01-14490317 274692 23-01-14489912 274919 24-01-14490385 275014 AS Summary 46141 Number of ASes in routing system 18935 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 4428 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS7029 : WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc 119231744 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 24Jan14 --- ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 491049 275037 21601244.0% All ASes AS28573 3327 83 324497.5% NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A. AS6389 3028 56 297298.2% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. AS7029 4428 1671 275762.3% WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc AS17974 2736 181 255593.4% TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia AS22773 2327 194 213391.7% ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC - Cox Communications Inc. AS4766 2937 960 197767.3% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS1785 2154 404 175081.2% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. AS18881 1833 90 174395.1% Global Village Telecom AS36998 1810 97 171394.6% SDN-MOBITEL AS10620 2686 1104 158258.9% Telmex Colombia S.A. AS18566 2047 565 148272.4% MEGAPATH5-US - MegaPath Corporation AS4323 2944 1513 143148.6% TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc. AS7303 1744 451 129374.1% Telecom Argentina S.A. AS4755 1828 603 122567.0% TATACOMM-AS TATA Communications formerly VSNL is Leading ISP AS7545 2152 989 116354.0% TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited AS7552 1260 156 110487.6% VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Corporation AS22561 1261 227 103482.0% AS22561 - CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc. AS9829 1591 678 91357.4% BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone AS18101 990 184 80681.4% RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN Reliance Communications Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI AS35908 903 103 80088.6% VPLSNET - Krypt Technologies AS4808 1172 387 78567.0% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network AS17908 834 57 77793.2% TCISL Tata Communications AS701 1499 768 73148.8% UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business AS24560 1093 369 72466.2% AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services AS8151 1384 662 72252.2% Uninet S.A. de C.V. AS6983 1295 581 71455.1% ITCDELTA - ITC^Deltacom AS13977 856 145 71183.1% CTELCO - FAIRPOINT COMMUNICATIONS, INC. AS7738 847 150 69782.3% Telemar Norte Leste S.A. AS4788 930 237 69374.5% TMNET-AS-AP TM Net, Internet Service Provider AS855745 56
BGP Update Report
BGP Update Report Interval: 16-Jan-14 -to- 23-Jan-14 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS14420 44341 2.2% 183.2 -- CORPORACION NACIONAL DE TELECOMUNICACIONES - CNT EP 2 - AS840232997 1.6% 16.7 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom 3 - AS24560 23921 1.2% 23.3 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 4 - AS13118 23897 1.2% 543.1 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom 5 - AS982923469 1.2% 33.5 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 6 - AS35181 23126 1.1%1927.2 -- PWC Autonomous System Number for Public WareHouse Company 7 - AS929921287 1.1% 58.5 -- IPG-AS-AP Philippine Long Distance Telephone Company 8 - AS671319155 0.9% 34.1 -- IAM-AS 9 - AS477517805 0.9% 195.7 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms 10 - AS41691 17692 0.9% 491.4 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC 11 - AS45899 16871 0.8% 52.2 -- VNPT-AS-VN VNPT Corp 12 - AS14287 15745 0.8%2624.2 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc. 13 - AS949815070 0.8% 19.5 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 14 - AS59217 14853 0.7% 14853.0 -- AZONNELIMITED-AS-AP Azonne Limited 15 - AS27947 14493 0.7% 40.6 -- Telconet S.A 16 - AS27738 13784 0.7% 23.9 -- Ecuadortelecom S.A. 17 - AS28573 12948 0.6% 10.1 -- NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A. 18 - AS11976 12381 0.6% 229.3 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication International Inc. 19 - AS62904 11220 0.6% 127.5 -- SERVERHUB-DALLAS - Eonix Corporation 20 - AS17557 10983 0.6% 439.3 -- PKTELECOM-AS-PK Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS59217 14853 0.7% 14853.0 -- AZONNELIMITED-AS-AP Azonne Limited 2 - AS129226592 0.3%6592.0 -- MULTITRADE-AS CEDACRI S.P.A. 3 - AS304374406 0.2%4406.0 -- GE-MS003 - General Electric Company 4 - AS6629 8683 0.4%4341.5 -- NOAA-AS - NOAA 5 - AS7202 8596 0.4%4298.0 -- FAMU - Florida A M University 6 - AS194063584 0.2%3584.0 -- TWRS-MA - Towerstream I, Inc. 7 - AS165613433 0.2%3433.0 -- ARIBANETWORK Ariba Inc. Autonomous System 8 - AS544658743 0.4%2914.3 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc. 9 - AS14287 15745 0.8%2624.2 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc. 10 - AS624312181 0.1%2181.0 -- NCSC-IE-AS National Cyber Security Centre 11 - AS627512082 0.1%2082.0 -- HSAUWC-AS - HSA-UWC 12 - AS35181 23126 1.1%1927.2 -- PWC Autonomous System Number for Public WareHouse Company 13 - AS115331653 0.1%1653.0 -- VERITY-AS - Verity, Inc. 14 - AS7247 1575 0.1%1575.0 -- MOJO - Mojo Networks 15 - AS398102830 0.1%1415.0 -- UA-WICOM The national operator of wireless communication WiMAX-Ukraine 16 - AS518611215 0.1%1215.0 -- SHARED-AS Eric Dorr 17 - AS325287276 0.4% 909.5 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 18 - AS458062454 0.1% 818.0 -- SCB-TH-AS-AP Siam Commercial Bank 19 - AS110549474 0.5% 789.5 -- LIVEPERSON LivePerson, Inc 20 - AS23295 781 0.0% 781.0 -- EA-01 - Extend America TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 109.161.64.0/20 23680 1.1% AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom 2 - 85.239.28.0/2423096 1.1% AS35181 -- PWC Autonomous System Number for Public WareHouse Company 3 - 103.243.164.0/22 14853 0.7% AS59217 -- AZONNELIMITED-AS-AP Azonne Limited 4 - 89.221.206.0/24 10364 0.5% AS41691 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC 5 - 206.152.15.0/248731 0.4% AS54465 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc. 6 - 120.28.62.0/24 8726 0.4% AS4775 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms 7 - 222.127.0.0/24 8711 0.4% AS4775 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms 8 - 192.58.232.0/248681 0.4% AS6629 -- NOAA-AS - NOAA 9 - 85.249.160.0/207121 0.3% AS41691 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC 10 - 216.109.107.0/24 6866 0.3% AS11486 -- COLO-PREM-VZB - Verizon Online LLC AS16561 -- ARIBANETWORK Ariba Inc. Autonomous System 11 - 67.210.190.0/236780 0.3% AS11976 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication International Inc. 12 - 194.105.61.0/246592 0.3% AS12922 -- MULTITRADE-AS CEDACRI S.P.A. 13 - 67.210.188.0/235446 0.2% AS11976 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication International Inc. 14 - 199.187.118.0/24 4741 0.2% AS11054 -- LIVEPERSON LivePerson, Inc 15 - 165.156.25.0/244406 0.2% AS30437 --
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
On 01/24/2014 09:46 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:22:58 +0100, Stefan Neufeind said: just no Youtube. Hmm - why would people use those resolvers, besides being lazy in configuring a proper resolver-address. A lot of people make value judgements on the relative likelyhood of finding evil in DNS packets coming from 8.8.8.8 versus DNS packets coming from the IP address handed to you in the DHCP reply If it's just some DNS your provider hands out, I agree it's not much better as well. (But you might possibly assume your provider has less interst to spy on all your emails, your dns-queries and the like.) What imho you'll want is a reliable resolver which is as close to you as possible (and have it do DNSSEC-validation etc.). Regards, Stefan
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
- Original Message - From: Stefan Neufeind na...@stefan-neufeind.de If it's just some DNS your provider hands out, I agree it's not much better as well. (But you might possibly assume your provider has less interst to spy on all your emails, your dns-queries and the like.) You might assume that, I wouldn't. If your access provider is a commercial eyeball network like, say, Road Runner or Comcast, then there is, I believe, evidence that they do DPI and possibly even ad injection, in addition to playing NXDOMAIN games. What imho you'll want is a reliable resolver which is as close to you as possible (and have it do DNSSEC-validation etc.). Sure; everyone should have their recursing resolver at the edge of their network. But most consumers don't. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
There was a lot of discussion about this figure back in August when the relevant outage occurred. From memory, a large percentage of the traffic drop was from other sites breaking as a result of Google not being available. ie, a site completely unrelated to Google, potentially being served by a CDN, that was using Google Analytics on every page could fail to load and/or load/render slower as a result of the specific outage that Google had at the time. This resulted in a traffic drop for far more traffic than just that sourced from Google. A non-trivial percentage of the Internet is in some way or other dependent on things like Google Analytics/maps/etc, Facebook likes, Twitter recent tweets, etc, such that if any of those services are not available the site fails to load, either correctly or sometimes at all. The same is true in many causes for javascript/etc libraries being loaded from 3rd party sites like Google. Scott On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Given how much traffic these days is CDN and streaming, is that number really supportable? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/down-goes-google-down-goes-internet Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Stefan Neufeind na...@stefan-neufeind.de wrote: interst to spy on all your emails, your dns-queries and the like.) FUD much? have you read the public-dns ToS and privacy statements? if you haven't you might want to: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy What imho you'll want is a reliable resolver which is as close to you as possible (and have it do DNSSEC-validation etc.). you might also want to read: http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2013/03/google-public-dns-now-supports-dnssec.html and for some (quite a few) users of 8.8.8.8 it's faster and closer than their ISP dns... which says something about the ISP provided DNS server(s) I suppose :( It's certainly not the answer for everyone, or everything, but shrugging it off for FUD reasons is just silly and makes little sense. -chris
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
- Original Message - From: Scott Howard sc...@doc.net.au A non-trivial percentage of the Internet is in some way or other dependent on things like Google Analytics/maps/etc, Facebook likes, Twitter recent tweets, etc, such that if any of those services are not available the site fails to load, either correctly or sometimes at all. The same is true in many causes for javascript/etc libraries being loaded from 3rd party sites like Google. I wonder what percentage of large website operators whose site designs have such external dependencies have had it occur to them to include those external services in their monitoring systems? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jeff Tantsura jeff.tants...@ericsson.comwrote: Eric, Issues: 1.OSPF (SPF) can only produce a SPT based on cost (metric). Anything else would require CSPF rather than SPF. A CSPF based protocol would be a suitable algorithm for adding hard constraints, instead of preference, such as path delay must be less than X, instead of just a weight for each edge of the graph. However, if you like: you can use a manually set cost for every link --- manually figure a weight based on bandwidth or delay at ideal utilization (but not both delay and bandwidth simultaneously). For example, if you equate cost to delay, then you might decide that the greatest delay any path through your AS/routing domain should ever see, from any pair of routers end-to-end is 120 milliseconds. Then you can scribble that down, and figure out what fraction of 120ms the delay for every IGP link is, under ideal conditions, to set your weight to the corresponding fraction of your chosen maximum weight. Then decide on a reference scale, for example: 100% = cost of 16384 Within that model, a link with 120 milliseconds delay, traversing that link costs 16384. Traversing a link with 10 milliseconds delay should have cost 1366, etc. Over multiple hops, the costs will then sum together, to give delay under idealized conditions. 2. Delay is not distributed as part of an IGP update Typical constrains distributed are: bandwidth, color, some others [snip] RSVP-TE (computation result is an ERO) however theoretically nothing precludes one (implementation) to use those for more comprehensive computation, i.e. delay could be taken into consideration as long as the path is loop free. So it would look like - compute all loop free paths to a destination and then choose one with the smallest cumulative delay. What I would like to see is dynamic computation of Delay and Utilization. Instead of merely choose the one with the smallest cumulative delay - choose the one with the smallest cumulative delay, BUT, offer load balancing over the N lowest delay links in proportion to the available utilization. For instance... if one of the paths has a link somewhere in it is that 90% congested, load balance unequally, and send a majority of packets over the path with the maximum 25% utilization, that has less than 10% in additional delay. BTW - segment routing will give you this functionality day one :) Cheers, Jeff -- -JH
Re: Opensource tools for inventory and troubleticketing
On 14-01-24 05:22 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: If you can't, RT is pretty nice, though quite a bit more complex. It used to have an asset tracking snap-on, but I don't know what the status of that is now that the main package has revved to 4.0. +1 on RT being awesome, but a little daunting to set up. like so many things, it's easy once you know how. Asset tracking of network-enabled devices can be done with netdot very nicely, as long as the devices implement SNMP properly. -- Looking for (employment|contract) work in the Internet industry, preferably working remotely. Building / Supporting the net since 2400 baud was the hot thing. Ask for a resume! ispbuil...@gmail.com
Re: Opensource tools for inventory and troubleticketing
On Jan 24, 2014, at 1:37 AM, Octavio Alfageme palae...@palaemon.es wrote: Hello everyone, I work for a small service provider starting to offer MPLS services between Europe and several african countries. At present time we own a small Cisco network, but we are starting to need a better inventory of services and network resources and better troubleticketing procedures. We can not afford acquiring complicated and expensive tools at present time.I would be grateful if you could recommend me opensource tools to cover these needs. try https://abusehq.abusix.com/ or http://wordtothewise.com/products/abacus.html signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Charter routing issues
Hello, Can someone from Charter Communications enlighten us to if you are having any issues or reach out to me directly. We are seeing some interesting traceroutes from St. Louis, Mo to St. Louis Charter customers via Level3, Qwest, or Cogent. Packets are being sent all over resulting in traceroutes 20 hops long. We are also seeing high latency between Qwest to XO for some routes. 1184.175.64.225 (184.175.64.225) 0.267 ms 0.241 ms 0.419 ms 2 172.23.27.2 (172.23.27.2) 30.195 ms 30.184 ms 30.176 ms 3 te-8-3.car1.StLouis1.Level3.net (4.53.161.53) 0.784 ms 0.782 ms 0.923 ms 4 ae-6-6.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.132.182) 33.222 ms 33.314 ms 33.295 ms 5 ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.151.181) 33.401 ms 33.358 ms 33.361 ms 6 ae-2-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.132.106) 33.181 ms 32.876 ms 32.874 ms 7 ae-82-82.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.153) 32.871 ms ae-92-92.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.165) 33.111 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.141) 33.600 ms 8 ae-2-70.edge2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.75) 33.047 ms ae-1-60.edge2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.11) 32.879 ms 33.072 ms 9 CHARTER-COM.edge2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.71.220.254) 34.095 ms CHARTER-COM.edge2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.71.221.34) 32.178 ms CHARTER-COM.edge2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.71.221.58) 35.925 ms 10 dtr01ovldmo-bue-4.ovld.mo.charter.com (96.34.2.19) 30.266 ms 30.263 ms 30.546 ms 11 crr01ovldmo-bue-100.ovld.mo.charter.com (96.34.49.220) 30.347 ms 30.563 ms 30.151 ms 12 crr02rxnail-tge-0-7-0-17.rxna.il.charter.com (96.34.50.115) 31.103 ms crr02rxnail-tge-0-7-0-19.rxna.il.charter.com (96.34.50.119) 31.106 ms crr02rxnail-tge-0-7-0-17.rxna.il.charter.com (96.34.50.115) 31.153 ms 13 crr01rxnail-tge-0-6-1-1.rxna.il.charter.com (96.34.50.16) 31.151 ms crr01rxnail-tge-0-6-1-2.rxna.il.charter.com (96.34.50.18) 31.219 ms crr01rxnail-tge-0-6-1-3.rxna.il.charter.com (96.34.49.190) 32.047 ms 14 crr02blvlil-bue-2.blvl.il.charter.com (96.34.50.97) 32.156 ms 32.249 ms 32.247 ms 15 dtr02blvlil-bue-100.blvl.il.charter.com (96.34.50.149) 31.599 ms crr01blvlil-bue-1.blvl.il.charter.com (96.34.49.232) 31.828 ms 31.552 ms 16 dtr01blvlil-bue-3.blvl.il.charter.com (96.34.49.139) 31.719 ms 32.340 ms 32.284 ms 17 dtr01osbhmo-tge-0-7-1-3.osbh.mo.charter.com (96.34.48.124) 36.638 ms 36.646 ms 36.640 ms 18 acr01osbhmo-tge-3-2.osbh.mo.charter.com (96.34.50.35) 36.762 ms 36.850 ms * 19 cts01osbhmo-tge-1-0-0.osbh.mo.charter.com (96.34.56.15) 36.001 ms 36.926 ms 36.926 ms 20 10.174.65.96 (10.174.65.96) 48.686 ms 48.686 ms 48.659 ms 21 24-240-188-2.static.stls.mo.charter.com (24.240.188.2) 44.111 ms 48.208 ms 53.722 ms # traceroute 75.128.167.38 traceroute to 75.128.167.38 (75.128.167.38), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 bowser.video-direct.net (184.175.64.225) 0.246 ms 0.266 ms 0.262 ms 2 172.23.27.2 (172.23.27.2) 1.555 ms 1.593 ms 1.594 ms 3 crt1-crt2.cybercon.com (216.15.195.182) 1.402 ms 1.472 ms 1.471 ms 4 kcm-edge-17.inet.qwest.net (65.116.48.245) 13.336 ms 13.410 ms 13.405 ms 5 dap-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net (67.14.2.170) 19.025 ms 19.025 ms 18.969 ms 6 * 63.146.26.170 (63.146.26.170) 113.851 ms 113.746 ms 7 207.88.14.238.ptr.us.xo.net (207.88.14.238) 128.318 ms 128.282 ms 128.294 ms 8 ae0d0.mcr1.marylandheights-mo.us.xo.net (216.156.0.178) 126.072 ms 125.980 ms 126.079 ms 9 206.181.23.182 (206.181.23.182) 126.051 ms 126.140 ms 126.108 ms 10 dtr01blvlil-bue-1.blvl.il.charter.com (96.34.2.21) 126.034 ms 125.998 ms * 11 dtr01osbhmo-tge-0-7-1-3.osbh.mo.charter.com (96.34.48.124) 126.074 ms * * 12 acr01osbhmo-tge-3-2.osbh.mo.charter.com (96.34.50.35) 125.978 ms * 122.677 ms 13 cts01osbhmo-tge-1-0-0.osbh.mo.charter.com (96.34.56.15) 122.372 ms 121.404 ms 121.776 ms 14 10.174.64.247 (10.174.64.247) 136.737 ms 136.770 ms 131.410 ms 15 75-128-167-38.static.stls.mo.charter.com (75.128.167.38) 136.380 ms 131.092 ms 134.433 ms Inbound traffic routes seem normal but latency is high. 1 1 ms1 ms1 ms 10.0.0.1 2 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.160.192.1 310 ms 9 ms 9 ms dtr01ovldmo-tge-0-3-0-13.ovld.mo.charter.com [96.34.52.8] 416 ms17 ms19 ms bbr01olvemo-bue-4.olve.mo.charter.com [96.34.2.18] 5 117 ms 122 ms 119 ms 63-156-122-145.dia.static.qwest.net [63.156.122.145] 6 120 ms 121 ms 121 ms kcm-edge-17.inet.qwest.net [67.14.11.174] 7 126 ms * 123 ms qwest-gige.cybercon.com [65.116.48.246] 840 ms44 ms41 ms 216.15.195.205 9 123 ms 124 ms 129 ms65.175.114.250 [65.175.114.250] cody@crt1-re1 show route aspath-regex ^174 20115 active-path match-prefix */24 | match BGP | count Count: 128 lines {master} cody@crt1-re1 show route aspath-regex ^209 20115 active-path match-prefix */24 | match BGP | count Count: 15 lines {master} cody@crt1-re1 show route aspath-regex ^3356 20115 active-path match-prefix */24 | match BGP | count Count: 77 lines cody@crt1-re1 show route aspath-regex ^209 20115 active-path | match BGP | count Count: 161
Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.
The auto-cost capability in some vendors devices seems to have left many people ignoring the link metrics within their IGP. From what I recall in the standards - bandwidth is one possible link metric but certainly not the only one. Network designers are free (and I would encourage to) pick whatever metric is relevant to them. On 24/01/2014 22:26, Erik Sundberg wrote: I am looking for a formula that other people are using .p I've started to use a combination of 3 metrics to determine my costing: * The traditional auto-cost calculation based on a 100Gbps reference which gives far more useful values than the old 100Mbps reference. * An average or nominal link latency multiplied by a factor of 200. Sometimes adjusted if I want two geographically diverse paths between the same endpoints to have equivalent costs. * Path length in km multiplied by 2. This accounts for situations when the nominal latency is too small to accurately determine and assumes 1 ms per 100 km. I then pick the largest of the above 3 metrics as my OSPF cost. -- Graham Beneke
Re: Google causes 40% drop in traffic?
On Jan 25, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: I wonder what percentage of large website operators whose site designs have such external dependencies have had it occur to them to include those external services in their monitoring systems? This presupposes that they actually have monitoring systems which actually perform useful checks. All too often, this isn't the case. ; --- Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com Luck is the residue of opportunity and design. -- John Milton