RE: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer

2014-04-01 Thread Anil KARADAG
Hi again,



I continue to work on fixing the problem, but no success so far. Is there any 
way to use client port number without enabling use source ip??



-Original Message-
From: Anil KARADAG [mailto:akara...@netas.com.tr]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:51 PM
To: Pui Edylie; Paul Bertain
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



Hi,



Thanks for solution but I cannot use it, because backend servers must know 
netscaler snip ip for clients. So I need fixed proxy port to communication with 
backend servers.



-Original Message-

From: Pui Edylie [mailto:em...@edylie.net]

Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:23 PM

To: Anil KARADAG; Paul Bertain

Cc: nanog@nanog.org

Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



Hi Anil,



Take a look at

http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/ns-system-10-1-map/ns-nw-ipaddrssng-enabling-use-src-ip-mode-tsk.html

- use the client's port.



We prefer F5 LTM much better than Netscaler :)



Cheers,

Edy



On 3/31/2014 8:17 PM, Anil KARADAG wrote:

 Hi Paul,



 Thanks for reply, it works :). But I have another problem; source port is 
 altered by the virtual service. However, we need the source port to be the 
 same on the destination servers. Is there a way to  ensure this?



 Thanks



 -Original Message-

 From: Paul Bertain [mailto:p...@bertain.net]

 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:47 PM

 To: Anil KARADAG

 Cc: nanog@nanog.org

 Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



 Hi Anil,



 Have you setup MBF?  I've seen that as an issue before. If you don't have a 
 default route set, than MBF might help you send the response out the 
 interface on which it was received.



 Paul



 On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Anil KARADAG 
 akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.tr wrote:



 Hi,



 I setup a netscaler load balancer for sip traffic on Amazon EC2. Clients 
 packets are arrived to the backend servers over to the load balancer but any 
 responses cannot be arrived to clients. I see the responses on the load 
 balancer.



 I think there is a config problem for that but I don't know and did not find 
 any solution for that. How can I fix the outbound traffic issue.



 thanks

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 a??klanamaz ve yay?nlanamaz. E?er mesaj?n g?nderildi?i al?c? de?ilseniz bu 
 elektronik postan?n i?eri?ini a??klaman?z, kopyalaman?z, y?nlendirmeniz ve 
 kullanman?z kesinlikle yasakt?r ve bu elektronik postay? ve eklerini derhal 
 silmeniz gerekmektedir. NETA? TELEKOM?N?KASYON A.?. bu mesaj?n i?erdi?i 
 bilgilerin do?rulu?u veya eksiksiz oldu?u konusunda herhangi bir garanti 
 vermemektedir. Bu nedenle bu bilgilerin ne ?ekilde olursa olsun i?eri?inden, 
 iletilmesinden, al?nmas?ndan, saklanmas?ndan ve kullan?lmas?ndan sorumlu 
 de?ildir. Bu mesajdaki g?r??ler g?nderen ki?iye ait olup, NETA? 
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 elektronik postanın içeriğini açıklamanız, kopyalamanız, yönlendirmeniz ve 
 kullanmanız kesinlikle yasaktır ve bu elektronik postayı ve eklerini derhal 
 silmeniz gerekmektedir. NETAŞ TELEKOMÜNİKASYON A.Ş. bu mesajın içerdiği 
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RE: [mailop] IPv6 DNSBL

2014-04-01 Thread David Hofstee
Maybe you did not understand my message. I know what you say. However:

I see a message from a list as a message-from-a-list , not as a 
forwarded-message-from-a-list-user. Because: How can a user authorize someone 
to send a message on behalf of his/her name (by sending an email). This should 
not ever happen. Example: A bank sends me an email which was authorized (in 
some way). I now forward this message. The message is genuinely not modified. 
But it still does not authorize me to send this email pretending to be the 
bank, even if it is the same message. Conclusion: If an email was sent by me, 
it should be authorized/authenticated by me. 

For mailing lists you might want to indicate that the message can be 
interpreted as being forwarded for a specific user. In that way the 
user-interface of the email client can reply to  a user directly instead of the 
mailing list. If that is what one wants.



David Hofstee

Deliverability Management
MailPlus B.V. Netherlands (ESP)


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: John Levine [mailto:jo...@taugh.com] 
Verzonden: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:47 PM
Aan: mai...@mailop.org
CC: David Hofstee
Onderwerp: Re: [mailop] IPv6 DNSBL

I don't see how forwarding should break authentication.

This is SPF's famous limitation.  It's been debated to death, no need to rerun 
the argument again.

DKIM survives normal forwarding, which was one of its design goals, but mailing 
lists typically modify the message by adding subject tags or message footers, 
stripping attachments, and the like, which breaks the incoming signature.  
That's been debated to death, too.  

It always seemed to me that lists should sign their mail, publish SPF for the 
lists's bounce addresses, and recipients would use the list's reputation to 
filter, Some people apparently have a security model I don't understand that 
evaluates the spamminess of list messages by the presence of signatures from 
the individual contributors.

R's,
John


Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer

2014-04-01 Thread Alex White-Robinson
Have you configured RNAT yet? Might tidy up your SIP problem. Do you need
the servers to see the client's source port, or is your issue that SIP
response traffic is not on the port the client expects?

Give the guide to setting up RNAT here a try -
http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/netscaler-traffic-management-10-1-map/ns-lb-commonprotocols-sip-con.html

tl;dr though -

set rnat server subnet netmask
set lb sipParameters -rnatSrcPort 5060 -rnatDstPort 5060 -retryDur
1000 -addRportVip ENABLED -sip503RateThreshold 1000




On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Anil KARADAG akara...@netas.com.tr wrote:

 Hi again,



 I continue to work on fixing the problem, but no success so far. Is there
 any way to use client port number without enabling use source ip??



 -Original Message-
 From: Anil KARADAG [mailto:akara...@netas.com.tr]
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:51 PM
 To: Pui Edylie; Paul Bertain
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: RE: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



 Hi,SIP source ports destination ports
 SIP source ports destination ports


 Thanks for solution but I cannot use it, because backend servers must know
 netscaler snip ip for clients. So I need fixed proxy port to communication
 with backend servers.



 -Original Message-

 From: Pui Edylie [mailto:em...@edylie.net]

 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:23 PM

 To: Anil KARADAG; Paul Bertain

 Cc: nanog@nanog.org

 Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



 Hi Anil,



 Take a look at


 http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/ns-system-10-1-map/ns-nw-ipaddrssng-enabling-use-src-ip-mode-tsk.html

 - use the client's port.



 We prefer F5 LTM much better than Netscaler :)



 Cheers,

 Edy



 On 3/31/2014 8:17 PM, Anil KARADAG wrote:

  Hi Paul,

 

  Thanks for reply, it works :). But I have another problem; source port
 is altered by the virtual service. However, we need the source port to be
 the same on the destination servers. Is there a way to  ensure this?

 

  Thanks

 

  -Original Message-

  From: Paul Bertain [mailto:p...@bertain.net]

  Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:47 PM

  To: Anil KARADAG

  Cc: nanog@nanog.org

  Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer

 

  Hi Anil,

 

  Have you setup MBF?  I've seen that as an issue before. If you don't
 have a default route set, than MBF might help you send the response out the
 interface on which it was received.

 

  Paul

 

  On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Anil KARADAG akara...@netas.com.tr
 mailto:akara...@netas.com.tr wrote:

 

  Hi,

 

  I setup a netscaler load balancer for sip traffic on Amazon EC2.
 Clients packets are arrived to the backend servers over to the load
 balancer but any responses cannot be arrived to clients. I see the
 responses on the load balancer.

 

  I think there is a config problem for that but I don't know and did not
 find any solution for that. How can I fix the outbound traffic issue.

 

  thanks

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 gizlidir. Ayr?ca hukuken de gizli olabilir. Hi?bir ?ekilde ???nc? ki?ilere
 a??klanamaz ve yay?nlanamaz. E?er mesaj?n g?nderildi?i al?c? de?ilseniz bu
 elektronik postan?n i?eri?ini a??klaman?z, kopyalaman?z, y?nlendirmeniz ve
 kullanman?z kesinlikle yasakt?r ve bu elektronik postay? ve eklerini derhal
 silmeniz gerekmektedir. NETA? TELEKOM?N?KASYON A.?. bu mesaj?n i?erdi?i
 bilgilerin do?rulu?u veya eksiksiz oldu?u konusunda herhangi bir garanti
 vermemektedir. Bu nedenle bu bilgilerin ne ?ekilde olursa olsun
 i?eri?inden, iletilmesinden, al?nmas?ndan, saklanmas?ndan ve
 kullan?lmas?ndan sorumlu de?ildir. Bu mesajdaki g?r??ler g?nderen ki?iye
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RE: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer

2014-04-01 Thread Anil KARADAG
My aim is forwarding all sip packages from netscaler snip:client port number to 
backend server ip: backend server port. I tried the following scenarios;


-  use source ip is enabled, use proxy port is set no

o   Result:  we see client port as source port but no SNIP for source ip-address

-  In additional above configured also RNAT

o   Result: we see SNIP ip address as source ip address but source port again 
become random.

Checked the citrix support link for rnat, but our sip packages include 'via 
header' option with SNIP: client port number;

Via: SIP/2.0/UDP netscaler 
SNIP:5060;received=192.168.184.13;branch=z9hZ4bb1ce74d0f-a161-43af-8f08-2d98cf702742_0efcfc5e_71732184846337
From: Alex White-Robinson [mailto:ale...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:00 AM
To: Anil KARADAG
Cc: Pui Edylie; Paul Bertain; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer

Have you configured RNAT yet? Might tidy up your SIP problem. Do you need the 
servers to see the client's source port, or is your issue that SIP response 
traffic is not on the port the client expects?

Give the guide to setting up RNAT here a try - 
http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/netscaler-traffic-management-10-1-map/ns-lb-commonprotocols-sip-con.html
tl;dr though -

set rnat server subnet netmask
set lb sipParameters -rnatSrcPort 5060 -rnatDstPort 5060 -retryDur 1000 
-addRportVip ENABLED -sip503RateThreshold 1000



On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Anil KARADAG 
akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.tr wrote:
Hi again,



I continue to work on fixing the problem, but no success so far. Is there any 
way to use client port number without enabling use source ip??



-Original Message-
From: Anil KARADAG [mailto:akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.tr]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:51 PM
To: Pui Edylie; Paul Bertain
Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



Hi,SIP source ports destination ports
SIP source ports destination ports


Thanks for solution but I cannot use it, because backend servers must know 
netscaler snip ip for clients. So I need fixed proxy port to communication with 
backend servers.



-Original Message-

From: Pui Edylie [mailto:em...@edylie.netmailto:em...@edylie.net]

Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:23 PM

To: Anil KARADAG; Paul Bertain

Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org

Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



Hi Anil,



Take a look at

http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/ns-system-10-1-map/ns-nw-ipaddrssng-enabling-use-src-ip-mode-tsk.html

- use the client's port.



We prefer F5 LTM much better than Netscaler :)



Cheers,

Edy



On 3/31/2014 8:17 PM, Anil KARADAG wrote:

 Hi Paul,



 Thanks for reply, it works :). But I have another problem; source port is 
 altered by the virtual service. However, we need the source port to be the 
 same on the destination servers. Is there a way to  ensure this?



 Thanks



 -Original Message-

 From: Paul Bertain [mailto:p...@bertain.netmailto:p...@bertain.net]

 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:47 PM

 To: Anil KARADAG

 Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org

 Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



 Hi Anil,



 Have you setup MBF?  I've seen that as an issue before. If you don't have a 
 default route set, than MBF might help you send the response out the 
 interface on which it was received.



 Paul


 On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Anil KARADAG 
 akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.tr
  wrote:



 Hi,



 I setup a netscaler load balancer for sip traffic on Amazon EC2. Clients 
 packets are arrived to the backend servers over to the load balancer but any 
 responses cannot be arrived to clients. I see the responses on the load 
 balancer.



 I think there is a config problem for that but I don't know and did not find 
 any solution for that. How can I fix the outbound traffic issue.



 thanks

 Bu e-posta mesaj? ve ekleri g?nderildi?i ki?i ya da kuruma ?zeldir ve 
 gizlidir. Ayr?ca hukuken de gizli olabilir. Hi?bir ?ekilde ???nc? ki?ilere 
 a??klanamaz ve yay?nlanamaz. E?er mesaj?n g?nderildi?i al?c? de?ilseniz bu 
 elektronik postan?n i?eri?ini a??klaman?z, kopyalaman?z, y?nlendirmeniz ve 
 kullanman?z kesinlikle yasakt?r ve bu elektronik postay? ve eklerini derhal 
 silmeniz gerekmektedir. NETA? TELEKOM?N?KASYON A.?. bu mesaj?n i?erdi?i 
 bilgilerin do?rulu?u veya eksiksiz oldu?u konusunda herhangi bir garanti 
 vermemektedir. Bu nedenle bu bilgilerin ne ?ekilde olursa olsun i?eri?inden, 
 iletilmesinden, al?nmas?ndan, saklanmas?ndan ve kullan?lmas?ndan sorumlu 
 de?ildir. Bu mesajdaki g?r??ler g?nderen ki?iye ait olup, NETA? 
 TELEKOM?N?KASYON A.?.'nin g?r??lerini yans?tmayabilir.

 

Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer

2014-04-01 Thread Paul Bertain
Hi Anil,

The command is for the service or servicegroup and it is:

set service name -useproxyport (NO|YES)

Paul

 On Apr 1, 2014, at 1:38, Anil KARADAG akara...@netas.com.tr wrote:
 
 My aim is forwarding all sip packages from netscaler snip:client port number 
 to backend server ip: backend server port. I tried the following scenarios;
  
 -  “use source ip” is enabled, “use proxy port” is set no
 o   Result:  we see client port as source port but no SNIP for source 
 ip-address
 -  In additional above configured also RNAT
 o   Result: we see SNIP ip address as source ip address but source port again 
 become random.
  
 Checked the citrix support link for rnat, but our sip packages include ‘via 
 header’ option with SNIP: client port number;
  
 Via: SIP/2.0/UDP netscaler 
 SNIP:5060;received=192.168.184.13;branch=z9hZ4bb1ce74d0f-a161-43af-8f08-2d98cf702742_0efcfc5e_71732184846337
 From: Alex White-Robinson [mailto:ale...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:00 AM
 To: Anil KARADAG
 Cc: Pui Edylie; Paul Bertain; nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer
  
 Have you configured RNAT yet? Might tidy up your SIP problem. Do you need the 
 servers to see the client's source port, or is your issue that SIP response 
 traffic is not on the port the client expects?
 
 Give the guide to setting up RNAT here a try - 
 http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/netscaler-traffic-management-10-1-map/ns-lb-commonprotocols-sip-con.html
 
 tl;dr though -
 set rnat server subnet netmask
 set lb sipParameters -rnatSrcPort 5060 -rnatDstPort 5060 -retryDur 1000 
 -addRportVip ENABLED -sip503RateThreshold 1000
  
  
  
 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Anil KARADAG akara...@netas.com.tr wrote:
 Hi again,
 
 
 
 I continue to work on fixing the problem, but no success so far. Is there any 
 way to use client port number without enabling use source ip??
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Anil KARADAG [mailto:akara...@netas.com.tr]
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:51 PM
 To: Pui Edylie; Paul Bertain
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: RE: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer
 
 
 
 Hi,SIP source ports destination ports
 SIP source ports destination ports
 
 
 Thanks for solution but I cannot use it, because backend servers must know 
 netscaler snip ip for clients. So I need fixed proxy port to communication 
 with backend servers.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 From: Pui Edylie [mailto:em...@edylie.net]
 
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:23 PM
 
 To: Anil KARADAG; Paul Bertain
 
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 
 Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer
 
 
 
 Hi Anil,
 
 
 
 Take a look at
 
 http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/ns-system-10-1-map/ns-nw-ipaddrssng-enabling-use-src-ip-mode-tsk.html
 
 - use the client's port.
 
 
 
 We prefer F5 LTM much better than Netscaler :)
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Edy
 
 
 
 On 3/31/2014 8:17 PM, Anil KARADAG wrote:
 
  Hi Paul,
 
 
 
  Thanks for reply, it works :). But I have another problem; source port is 
  altered by the virtual service. However, we need the source port to be the 
  same on the destination servers. Is there a way to  ensure this?
 
 
 
  Thanks
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
 
  From: Paul Bertain [mailto:p...@bertain.net]
 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:47 PM
 
  To: Anil KARADAG
 
  Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 
  Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer
 
 
 
  Hi Anil,
 
 
 
  Have you setup MBF?  I've seen that as an issue before. If you don't have a 
  default route set, than MBF might help you send the response out the 
  interface on which it was received.
 
 
 
  Paul
 
 
 
  On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Anil KARADAG 
  akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.tr wrote:
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
 
 
  I setup a netscaler load balancer for sip traffic on Amazon EC2. Clients 
  packets are arrived to the backend servers over to the load balancer but 
  any responses cannot be arrived to clients. I see the responses on the 
  load balancer.
 
 
 
  I think there is a config problem for that but I don't know and did not 
  find any solution for that. How can I fix the outbound traffic issue.
 
 
 
  thanks
 
  Bu e-posta mesaj? ve ekleri g?nderildi?i ki?i ya da kuruma ?zeldir ve 
  gizlidir. Ayr?ca hukuken de gizli olabilir. Hi?bir ?ekilde ???nc? ki?ilere 
  a??klanamaz ve yay?nlanamaz. E?er mesaj?n g?nderildi?i al?c? de?ilseniz bu 
  elektronik postan?n i?eri?ini a??klaman?z, kopyalaman?z, y?nlendirmeniz ve 
  kullanman?z kesinlikle yasakt?r ve bu elektronik postay? ve eklerini 
  derhal silmeniz gerekmektedir. NETA? TELEKOM?N?KASYON A.?. bu mesaj?n 
  i?erdi?i bilgilerin do?rulu?u veya eksiksiz oldu?u konusunda herhangi bir 
  garanti vermemektedir. Bu nedenle bu bilgilerin ne ?ekilde olursa olsun 
  i?eri?inden, iletilmesinden, al?nmas?ndan, saklanmas?ndan ve 
  kullan?lmas?ndan sorumlu de?ildir. Bu mesajdaki 

Calculator written in route-map

2014-04-01 Thread Job Snijders
Hi all,

Do you often find yourself in need of a simple calculator, and all you have
available to you is a Brocade or Cisco IOS router?  No longer will you
experience the horror and dread of mental arithmetics. The route-map calculator
is here!

Brocade   : http://instituut.net/~job/calculator-route-map.brocade.txt
Cisco IOS : http://instituut.net/~job/calculator-route-map.ioscisco.txt
(file size ~ 12 megabyte)

In general I don't find route-maps useful to accomplish, well, anything.
However, this is a striking example of re-usable configuration that has
a measurable impact on daily operations! 

Calculations can be performed with integers between 1 and 256. The
answer will be presented as a rounded positive integer. In case the
calculation would result in a negative integer, larger than 2^16
(65536), an helpful error message is generated: 65000:. For
divisions and substractions the order of the BGP communities is
relevant, one must always place the operator first!

arithmetic operators:

  'add' operator community:65000:1
  'multiply' operator community:   65000:2
  'substract' operator community:  65000:3
  'divide' operator community: 65000:4

example output:

  telnet@input-router#show ip bgp routes detail 10.1.1.1 | i COMMUNITIES
  COMMUNITIES: 65000:2 0:63 0:113! calculate 63 * 113 
  telnet@input-router#

  telnet@calculator#show ip bgp routes detail 10.1.1.1 | i COMMUNITIES
  COMMUNITIES: 0:7119! result: 7119
  telnet@calculator#

Super convenient right?!

WARNING: due to IOS/Ironware architecture this route-map consumes quite
some memory. Always test in a lab before deploying in production!

Kind regards,

Job



Re: Calculator written in route-map

2014-04-01 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014, Job Snijders wrote:

Do you often find yourself in need of a simple calculator, and all you 
have available to you is a Brocade or Cisco IOS router?  No longer will 
you experience the horror and dread of mental arithmetics. The route-map 
calculator is here!


Is this meant as a proof that we need better operators for doing stuff 
based on contents of bgp communities? Because I concur that this is 
needed!


Making it understand that 65000:65003 65000:6500x means take X and 
prepend your own ASn X times, and not have to do this explicitly.


--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se



Microsoft mail contact

2014-04-01 Thread Casey Deccio
Hi all,

I'm looking for a Microsoft mail contact, specifically for MTAs in
2a01:111:f400::/48 address space.  Please contact me off-list.

Thanks,
Casey


Re: Microsoft mail contact

2014-04-01 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Replied Off-list

Mehmet

 On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:53, Casey Deccio ca...@deccio.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm looking for a Microsoft mail contact, specifically for MTAs in
 2a01:111:f400::/48 address space.  Please contact me off-list.
 
 Thanks,
 Casey



Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability

2014-04-01 Thread Clay Kossmeyer

Hi All -

The Cisco PSIRT has been sending IOS Security Advisories to the NANOG mailing 
list for well over a decade.  We started this process a long time ago at the 
request of the list’s then-membership and haven’t been asked to change since.

Admittedly, vulnerability disclosure/discussion/reporting has changed a bit 
over the years and we may be a bit overdue on rethinking the need to send to 
NANOG. :)

Given that there are a number of forums that more directly address either 
Cisco-specific issues or are specific to vulnerability announcements, we’re 
happy to discontinue sending to the NANOG list directly.

Cisco maintains a mailing list and RSS feed to which we send our Security 
Advisories, and you’re welcome to join if interested:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/psirt/security_vulnerability_policy.html#rsvifc

Thanks,

Clay


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RE: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability

2014-04-01 Thread Chuck Church
Given that probably 80+% (a guess, but I'd be really surprised at a lower
figure) of all internet traffic crosses at least one Cisco device somewhere,
I think it would be a huge disservice to discontinue sending these emails.
10 to 15 emails per year isn't much overhead, compared to seemingly
never-discussions on mandatory email legal signatures and other fluff.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: Clay Kossmeyer [mailto:ckoss...@cisco.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 2:44 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Cc: Clay Seaman-Kossmeyer (ckossmey)
Subject: Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of
Service Vulnerability


Hi All -

The Cisco PSIRT has been sending IOS Security Advisories to the NANOG
mailing list for well over a decade.  We started this process a long time
ago at the request of the list's then-membership and haven't been asked to
change since.

Admittedly, vulnerability disclosure/discussion/reporting has changed a bit
over the years and we may be a bit overdue on rethinking the need to send to
NANOG. :)

Given that there are a number of forums that more directly address either
Cisco-specific issues or are specific to vulnerability announcements, we're
happy to discontinue sending to the NANOG list directly.

Cisco maintains a mailing list and RSS feed to which we send our Security
Advisories, and you're welcome to join if interested:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/psirt/security_vulnerability_policy.
html#rsvifc

Thanks,

Clay




Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability

2014-04-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 15:24:32 -0400, Chuck Church said:
 Given that probably 80+% (a guess, but I'd be really surprised at a lower
 figure) of all internet traffic crosses at least one Cisco device somewhere,
 I think it would be a huge disservice to discontinue sending these emails.

Actually, the *real* value here is for those of us who are *not* Cisco
shops, but the box at the other end of the wire *is*, so that we can be
aware of what possible problems the other end may encounter


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Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability

2014-04-01 Thread Scott Weeks


--- ckoss...@cisco.com wrote:
From: Clay Kossmeyer ckoss...@cisco.com

[...] we’re happy to discontinue sending to the NANOG list directly.
--



Instead of discontinuing them how about one email that contains 
all the details, rather than one email per detail.  Similar to
what I sent to the list earlier.  For example:

--
The Semiannual Cisco IOS Software Security Advisory has been released.

For information please goto this URL:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/intelligence/Cisco_ERP_mar14.html

Advisory titles:
- Session Initiation Protocol Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Cisco 7600 Series Route Switch Processor 720 with 10 Gigabit Ethernet 
  Uplinks Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Internet Key Exchange Version 2 Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Network Address Translation Vulnerabilities
- SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Crafted IPv6 Packet Denial of Service Vulnerability
---


scott

Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability

2014-04-01 Thread Brandon Butterworth
 The Cisco PSIRT has been sending IOS Security Advisories to
 the NANOG mailing list for well over a decade

Thank you, much appreciated

 Given that there are a number of forums that more directly
 address either Cisco-specific issues or are specific to
 vulnerability announcements, we’re happy to discontinue
 sending to the NANOG list directly.

They are lost in the noise of some endless threads

 Cisco maintains a mailing list and RSS feed to which we
 send our Security Advisories

NANOG having a filtered feed of ISP backbone risk level
advisorises seems fair

brandon



Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability

2014-04-01 Thread Ted Hatfield

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014, Brandon Butterworth wrote:

The Cisco PSIRT has been sending IOS Security Advisories to
the NANOG mailing list for well over a decade


Thank you, much appreciated


Given that there are a number of forums that more directly
address either Cisco-specific issues or are specific to
vulnerability announcements, we?re happy to discontinue
sending to the NANOG list directly.


They are lost in the noise of some endless threads


Cisco maintains a mailing list and RSS feed to which we
send our Security Advisories


NANOG having a filtered feed of ISP backbone risk level
advisorises seems fair

brandon




One of the reasons I subscribe to the NANOG list is to get these security 
advisories.  I can always subscribe to another security list if necessary 
but I would would hope that CISCO would continue to send these notices, 
even if they are in a digest format.


Ted Hatfield



Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability

2014-04-01 Thread Mike

On 04/01/2014 11:44 AM, Clay Kossmeyer wrote:

Hi All -

The Cisco PSIRT has been sending IOS Security Advisories to the NANOG mailing 
list for well over a decade.  We started this process a long time ago at the 
request of the list’s then-membership and haven’t been asked to change since.

Admittedly, vulnerability disclosure/discussion/reporting has changed a bit 
over the years and we may be a bit overdue on rethinking the need to send to 
NANOG. :)

Given that there are a number of forums that more directly address either 
Cisco-specific issues or are specific to vulnerability announcements, we’re 
happy to discontinue sending to the NANOG list directly.

Cisco maintains a mailing list and RSS feed to which we send our Security 
Advisories, and you’re welcome to join if interested:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/psirt/security_vulnerability_policy.html#rsvifc

Its true this information is also available in other forums, but I don't 
have time to filter thru all of those. I *do* have time for nanog, 
however, because of the good cross section represented here and because 
it's worthwhile to be aware of what may be happening in other people's 
camps, because very frequently problems on one side of the wire can 
spill over and affect the other side as well. I think the advisories are 
highly relevent then and absolutely should be included here on nanog.


Thanks.




Re: Calculator written in route-map

2014-04-01 Thread Jennifer Rexford
Job,

Fun!  More generally, BGP has the same computing power as a Turing Machine:

  Marco Chiesa, Luca Cittadini, Guiseppe Di Battista, Laurent Vanbever, and 
Stefano Vissicchio
  Using routers to build logic circuits: How powerful is BGP? (ICNP'13)
  http://vanbever.eu/pdfs/vanbever_turing_icnp_2013.pdf

-- Jen


On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Job Snijders j...@instituut.net wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Do you often find yourself in need of a simple calculator, and all you have
 available to you is a Brocade or Cisco IOS router?  No longer will you
 experience the horror and dread of mental arithmetics. The route-map 
 calculator
 is here!
 
 Brocade   : http://instituut.net/~job/calculator-route-map.brocade.txt
 Cisco IOS : http://instituut.net/~job/calculator-route-map.ioscisco.txt
(file size ~ 12 megabyte)
 
 In general I don't find route-maps useful to accomplish, well, anything.
 However, this is a striking example of re-usable configuration that has
 a measurable impact on daily operations! 
 
 Calculations can be performed with integers between 1 and 256. The
 answer will be presented as a rounded positive integer. In case the
 calculation would result in a negative integer, larger than 2^16
 (65536), an helpful error message is generated: 65000:. For
 divisions and substractions the order of the BGP communities is
 relevant, one must always place the operator first!
 
 arithmetic operators:
 
  'add' operator community:65000:1
  'multiply' operator community:   65000:2
  'substract' operator community:  65000:3
  'divide' operator community: 65000:4
 
 example output:
 
  telnet@input-router#show ip bgp routes detail 10.1.1.1 | i COMMUNITIES
  COMMUNITIES: 65000:2 0:63 0:113! calculate 63 * 113 
  telnet@input-router#
 
  telnet@calculator#show ip bgp routes detail 10.1.1.1 | i COMMUNITIES
  COMMUNITIES: 0:7119! result: 7119
  telnet@calculator#
 
 Super convenient right?!
 
 WARNING: due to IOS/Ironware architecture this route-map consumes quite
 some memory. Always test in a lab before deploying in production!
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Job
 



Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability

2014-04-01 Thread Randy

From: Clay Kossmeyer ckoss...@cisco.com
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Cc: Clay Seaman-Kossmeyer (ckossmey) ckoss...@cisco.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of 
Service Vulnerability



Hi All -

The Cisco PSIRT has been sending IOS Security Advisories to the NANOG mailing 
list for well over a decade.  We started this process a long time ago at the 
request of the list’s then-membership and haven’t been asked to change since.

Admittedly, vulnerability disclosure/discussion/reporting has changed a bit 
over the years and we may be a bit overdue on rethinking the need to send to 
NANOG. :)

Given that there are a number of forums that more directly address either 
Cisco-specific issues or are specific to vulnerability announcements, we’re 
happy to discontinue sending to the NANOG list directly.

Cisco maintains a mailing list and RSS feed to which we send our Security 
Advisories, and you’re welcome to join if interested:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/psirt/security_vulnerability_policy.html#rsvifc

Thanks,

Clay




Touche'!

such is NANOG...a few who post more frequently than most like to umm... 
Speak-UP.

./Randy




RE: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer

2014-04-01 Thread Anil KARADAG
Hi Paul,

I use Netscaler 10.1, and “use proxy port” option depends on “use source ip”. I 
don’t understand why I cannot set no for proxy port without enabling source ip.
Its very bad solution for that.

From: Paul Bertain [mailto:p...@bertain.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 4:58 PM
To: Anil KARADAG
Cc: Alex White-Robinson; Pui Edylie; Paul Bertain; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer

Hi Anil,

The command is for the service or servicegroup and it is:

set service name -useproxyport (NO|YES)

Paul

On Apr 1, 2014, at 1:38, Anil KARADAG 
akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.tr wrote:
My aim is forwarding all sip packages from netscaler snip:client port number to 
backend server ip: backend server port. I tried the following scenarios;


-  “use source ip” is enabled, “use proxy port” is set no

o   Result:  we see client port as source port but no SNIP for source ip-address

-  In additional above configured also RNAT

o   Result: we see SNIP ip address as source ip address but source port again 
become random.

Checked the citrix support link for rnat, but our sip packages include ‘via 
header’ option with SNIP: client port number;

Via: SIP/2.0/UDP netscaler 
SNIP:5060;received=192.168.184.13;branch=z9hZ4bb1ce74d0f-a161-43af-8f08-2d98cf702742_0efcfc5e_71732184846337
From: Alex White-Robinson [mailto:ale...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:00 AM
To: Anil KARADAG
Cc: Pui Edylie; Paul Bertain; nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer

Have you configured RNAT yet? Might tidy up your SIP problem. Do you need the 
servers to see the client's source port, or is your issue that SIP response 
traffic is not on the port the client expects?

Give the guide to setting up RNAT here a try - 
http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/netscaler-traffic-management-10-1-map/ns-lb-commonprotocols-sip-con.html
tl;dr though -

set rnat server subnet netmask
set lb sipParameters -rnatSrcPort 5060 -rnatDstPort 5060 -retryDur 1000 
-addRportVip ENABLED -sip503RateThreshold 1000



On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Anil KARADAG 
akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.tr wrote:
Hi again,



I continue to work on fixing the problem, but no success so far. Is there any 
way to use client port number without enabling use source ip??



-Original Message-
From: Anil KARADAG [mailto:akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.tr]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:51 PM
To: Pui Edylie; Paul Bertain
Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



Hi,SIP source ports destination ports
SIP source ports destination ports


Thanks for solution but I cannot use it, because backend servers must know 
netscaler snip ip for clients. So I need fixed proxy port to communication with 
backend servers.



-Original Message-

From: Pui Edylie [mailto:em...@edylie.netmailto:em...@edylie.net]

Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:23 PM

To: Anil KARADAG; Paul Bertain

Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org

Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



Hi Anil,



Take a look at

http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/ns-system-10-1-map/ns-nw-ipaddrssng-enabling-use-src-ip-mode-tsk.html

- use the client's port.



We prefer F5 LTM much better than Netscaler :)



Cheers,

Edy



On 3/31/2014 8:17 PM, Anil KARADAG wrote:

 Hi Paul,



 Thanks for reply, it works :). But I have another problem; source port is 
 altered by the virtual service. However, we need the source port to be the 
 same on the destination servers. Is there a way to  ensure this?



 Thanks



 -Original Message-

 From: Paul Bertain [mailto:p...@bertain.netmailto:p...@bertain.net]

 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:47 PM

 To: Anil KARADAG

 Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org

 Subject: Re: Outgoing traffic problem on Citrix Netscaler Load Balancer



 Hi Anil,



 Have you setup MBF?  I've seen that as an issue before. If you don't have a 
 default route set, than MBF might help you send the response out the 
 interface on which it was received.



 Paul


 On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Anil KARADAG 
 akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.trmailto:akara...@netas.com.tr
  wrote:



 Hi,



 I setup a netscaler load balancer for sip traffic on Amazon EC2. Clients 
 packets are arrived to the backend servers over to the load balancer but any 
 responses cannot be arrived to clients. I see the responses on the load 
 balancer.



 I think there is a config problem for that but I don't know and did not find 
 any solution for that. How can I fix the outbound traffic issue.



 thanks

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