Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014, jim deleskie wrote: Those all sounds like legit business questions. Yup. On the otherhand at the other end of the customer spectrum: http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/it-ti/ipv6/ipv6tb-eng.asp -jim On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:45 PM, William F. Maton Sotomayor wma...@ottix.net wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Sadiq Saif wrote: On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front? Teksavvy does it (tunnel I believe) if you ask. Otherwise it's the usual: - 'why do we need this?'; - 'It costs money to upgrade for something low-demand'; - 'What's the market?'; - 'I don't have time'; - 'Aw gee do I have to??' wfms wfms
RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)
Well, I was just looking at my Bell Canada Fibe (IPTV/Internet) setup last nite and the gear Bell provides doesn't do IPv6 at all (not even an option). This gear is about 3 years old, so my hopes for them aren't very good... Thanks, Erik -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Sadiq Saif Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:16 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front? -- Sadiq Saif
Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion
- Original Message - From: Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at My Apple TV appears to use IPv6, but since there's no UI for it (last I checked) I had to disable SLAAC on that subnet to keep it from trying to use my slow connection. So in my book, some v6 support is actually worse than none I believe I recall suggesting that a couple days ago, and having Mark Andrews slap me around for it... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
RE: Canada and IPv6 ( DNSSEC)
At .ca, we see a very low IPv6 adoption rate in .ca domains and slow progression rate. See last ~3 years trends at www.cira.ca/radarv6 Just as an indicator, we have 316 .ca domains with IPv6 glue records :-( *** Can the major Canadian ISP reply back with their plans/timelines/costs on IPv6 offerings for commercial and residential services? CIRA could compile this info somewhere for reference. *** BTW, while at it, we have a lot of work to do for DNSSEC validation in Canada; some stats filtered with more than 4000 clients as measured early 2014 by APNIC, Geoff Huston. (thanks Geoff!) Canada is #96 :-( AS Name RankASN Total End Clients % DNSSEC validation --- --- -- --- TEKSAVVY-TOR TekSavvy Solutions Inc. Toronto156 56454804 82.56 COGECOWAVE - Cogeco Cable 923 79925424 17.02 ROGERS-CABLE - Rogers Cable Communications Inc. 3115812 28884 1.39 SHAW - Shaw Communications Inc. 3270632729083 1.18 ASN852 - TELUS Communications Inc. 3497852 22994 0.93 VIDEOTRON - Videotron Telecom Ltee 351257699669 0.91 BACOM - Bell Canada 3517577 28392 0.9 CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant Regional Communications 3753855 4053 0.64 Jack -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Alejandro Acosta Sent: June-19-14 11:47 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Canada and IPv6 Not residential IPv6 connectivity but today I got this news: http://www.ourmidland.com/prweb/cirrushosting-to-support-ipv-on-canadian-vps-and-cloud-hosting/article_4d28a39c-1c3f-5209-939b-10d8cf310564.html El 6/18/2014 7:46 PM, Sadiq Saif escribió: On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front?
RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)
Videotron (AS5769) is offering 6RD (RFC5969) to all residential customers, if their gear supports it. (DHCP option 212) (But our MGMT still calls it beta for now.) JF Jean-François Dubé Technicien, Opérations Réseau IP Ingénierie Exploitation des Réseaux Vidéotron NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org a écrit sur 2014-06-18 20:16:01 : De : Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com A : nanog@nanog.org, Date : 2014-06-19 12:43 Objet : Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Envoyé par : NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front? -- Sadiq Saif
RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)
6rd is in my opinion a band-aid solution, I don't see the point of offering IPv6 if it requires IPv4. native IPv6 should be offered where possible. We offer native IPv6 to all our DSL customers but only on an opt-in basis, we're although unfortunately unable to offer IPv6 over Cable since we still depend on a certain incumbent... -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of jean-francois.d...@videotron.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:13 AM To: li...@sadiqs.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org; NANOG Subject: RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Videotron (AS5769) is offering 6RD (RFC5969) to all residential customers, if their gear supports it. (DHCP option 212) (But our MGMT still calls it beta for now.) JF Jean-François Dubé Technicien, Opérations Réseau IP Ingénierie Exploitation des Réseaux Vidéotron NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org a écrit sur 2014-06-18 20:16:01 : De : Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com A : nanog@nanog.org, Date : 2014-06-19 12:43 Objet : Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Envoyé par : NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front? -- Sadiq Saif
RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)
There are obviously layer 8-9-10 issues to deal with as well before native IPv6 can be deployed. Being a IP NOC grunt, I keep my focus on layer 1-7. JF Jean-François Dubé Technicien, Opérations Réseau IP Ingénierie Exploitation des Réseaux Vidéotron NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org a écrit sur 2014-06-20 10:22:17 : De : Gabriel Blanchard g...@teksavvy.ca A : nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org, Date : 2014-06-20 10:24 Objet : RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Envoyé par : NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org 6rd is in my opinion a band-aid solution, I don't see the point of offering IPv6 if it requires IPv4. native IPv6 should be offered where possible. We offer native IPv6 to all our DSL customers but only on an opt-in basis, we're although unfortunately unable to offer IPv6 over Cable since we still depend on a certain incumbent... -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jean- francois.d...@videotron.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:13 AM To: li...@sadiqs.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org; NANOG Subject: RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Videotron (AS5769) is offering 6RD (RFC5969) to all residential customers, if their gear supports it. (DHCP option 212) (But our MGMT still calls it beta for now.) JF Jean-François Dubé Technicien, Opérations Réseau IP Ingénierie Exploitation des Réseaux Vidéotron NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org a écrit sur 2014-06-18 20:16:01 : De : Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com A : nanog@nanog.org, Date : 2014-06-19 12:43 Objet : Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Envoyé par : NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front? -- Sadiq Saif
Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion
So in my book, some v6 support is actually worse than none That has been my experience. The eyeballs are not happy. R's, John
Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion
I think it depends on the environment. Many small to midsized colleges use some type of NAC for their dorms. Some of the most popular ones don't have support for IPv6. I know there are more, but here are a few: NetReg (and it's commercial variants such as Infoblox Authenticated DHCP) ImpulsePoint Safeconnect Nomadix Gateway (used in many hotel guest networks) Cisco Clean Access when Inline mode (product is EOL but could explain why many schools couldn't do IPv6 in the dorms over the years) In my specific case, we couldn't use 802.1x for wired ports until recently so we've always had to depend an IP based solution for NAC. In a dorm setting, where a lot of the wired hosts don't support 802.1x(Roku,printers,Bluray players) , options are limited . With newer switches supporting mac-address based authentication (MAB in Cisco world, Mac-Radius in Juniper), we can start planning for IPv6 in our dorms in at least a limited deployment. On 6/19/2014 1:53 PM, Edward Arthurs wrote: Thank You for responding. If mid to small companies have equipment made in the last 7 years, they will not need to replace equipment. Most net admins at the mid to small companies have no idea about IPV6. Cost is a major consideration at the mid to small size companies, if they need to upgrade equipment. The difference between IPV4 and IPV6 for someone not familiar is huge, 1. There is a totally new format dotted decimal to colon. 2. The 32 bit to 128 bit is/or can be quite challenging for some net admins. Thank You -Original Message- From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:14 AM To: Edward Arthurs Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Edward Arthurs earth...@legacyinmate.com wrote: There are several obstacles to overcome, IMHO 1. The companies at the mid size and smaller levels have to invest in newer equipment that handles IPV6. if they have gear made in the last 7yrs it's likely already got the right bits for v6 support, right? 2. The network Admins at the above mentioned companies need to learn IPV6, most will want there company to pay the bill for this. for a large majority of the use cases it's just configure that other family on the interface and done. 3. The vendors that make said equipment should lower the cost of said equipment to prompt said companies into purchasing said equipment. the equipment in question does both v4 and v6 ... so why lower pricing? (also, see 'if made in the last 7 yrs, it's already done and you probably don't have to upgrade') There is a huge difference between IPV4 and IPV6 and there will be a lot of 'huge difference' ... pls quantify this. (unless you just mean colons instead of periods and letters in the address along with numbers)
Weekly Routing Table Report
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith pfsi...@gmail.com. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 21 Jun, 2014 Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary BGP routing table entries examined: 500142 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 195076 Deaggregation factor: 2.56 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 246641 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 47078 Prefixes per ASN: 10.62 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 35900 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 16317 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:6097 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:173 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.6 Max AS path length visible: 53 Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 50404) 51 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 1758 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 458 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 6875 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:5081 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 17602 Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 256 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 13 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space:401 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2695212164 Equivalent to 160 /8s, 165 /16s and 172 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 72.8 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 72.8 Percentage of available address space allocated: 100.0 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 96.6 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 173092 APNIC Region Analysis Summary - Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 119875 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 35406 APNIC Deaggregation factor:3.39 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 123023 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:51316 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4956 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 24.82 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1224 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:866 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:4.7 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 20 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:985 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 733773440 Equivalent to 43 /8s, 188 /16s and 126 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 85.8 APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 63488-63999, 131072-133631 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:169112 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:83993 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.01 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 170818 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 79633 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:16303 ARIN
Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)
I notice an IETF meeting in Toronto one month hence. If Canadian operators (and content providers) were interested in talking about their common problems, it might be convenient to schedule some time adjacent to that meeting. Lee On 6/20/14 10:12 AM, jean-francois.d...@videotron.com jean-francois.d...@videotron.com wrote: Videotron (AS5769) is offering 6RD (RFC5969) to all residential customers, if their gear supports it. (DHCP option 212) (But our MGMT still calls it beta for now.) JF Jean-François Dubé Technicien, Opérations Réseau IP Ingénierie Exploitation des Réseaux Vidéotron NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org a écrit sur 2014-06-18 20:16:01 : De : Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com A : nanog@nanog.org, Date : 2014-06-19 12:43 Objet : Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Envoyé par : NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front? -- Sadiq Saif
Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion
On 6/19/14 11:13 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Lee Howard l...@asgard.org wrote: On 6/19/14 4:30 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: So, I was focusing on the end-user (Consumer) set because given enough migration there that should push more application folk in the right direction. Why? Some content providers have said that they think IPv4 runout is an ISP problem. As long as users have IPv4, there's no reason for them to move. What percentage of eyeballs would need to be dual-stack for app folk to decide to support IPv6? I think ipv6 still suffers from the chicken/egg problem: 1) users aren't asking so isps aren't selling/doing 1b) ISPs still ahve v4 or a solution (they think) to no-more-v4 and can keep rolling new customers out I simply don't think this is the case anymore, at least in the U.S. IPv6 deployment to users is huge, and will automatically snowball as old CPE cycles out. Mid-sized operators will be coming up this year. Half of mobile is done. I don't know of any U.S. ISP or wireless carrier that is planning to use the address market or CGN as their exhaustion strategy. 2) content places have no one they can't reach today because there's v4 to everyone that they care about 3) both sides still playing chicken. oh well, see you on this same conversation in another 18 months time? I've said this several times, so for the record, here's my prediction: After ARIN runs out, and it may be 1-3 years after ARIN runs out, ISPs will incur the rising costs of IPv4 (through CGN or the address market). Eventually, costs will be so high that they offer IPv6 at a lower price, either for paid peering or to consumers. At that point, content providers will have a financial reason to migrate, and will painfully find that by the time they can do so, they will have already lost the users. To be clear, some content providers support IPv6, and some ISPs support IPv6. It's everybody else we need to move. And until they do, the Internet will be more expensive, or fragmented, or both. Also for the record: My prediction does not reflect any knowledge of any specific company's plan. Lee
Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)
The point is that you can offer IPv6 to a lot of people using various instatntiations of 100.64.0.0/10 but using globally unique IPv6 addresses providing them full true internet access without NAT. Yes, 6rd is a stopgap, but 6rd stopgap is better than multi-natted IPv4 only. Owen On Jun 20, 2014, at 07:22 , Gabriel Blanchard g...@teksavvy.com wrote: 6rd is in my opinion a band-aid solution, I don't see the point of offering IPv6 if it requires IPv4. native IPv6 should be offered where possible. We offer native IPv6 to all our DSL customers but only on an opt-in basis, we're although unfortunately unable to offer IPv6 over Cable since we still depend on a certain incumbent... -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of jean-francois.d...@videotron.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:13 AM To: li...@sadiqs.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org; NANOG Subject: RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Videotron (AS5769) is offering 6RD (RFC5969) to all residential customers, if their gear supports it. (DHCP option 212) (But our MGMT still calls it beta for now.) JF Jean-François Dubé Technicien, Opérations Réseau IP Ingénierie Exploitation des Réseaux Vidéotron NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org a écrit sur 2014-06-18 20:16:01 : De : Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com A : nanog@nanog.org, Date : 2014-06-19 12:43 Objet : Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Envoyé par : NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front? -- Sadiq Saif
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Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)
I concur with Owen here. 6RD is a band-aid, but a pretty effective one to introduce IPv6 to the staff and management in your organization. When you get to native deployment, your engineering and ops staff no longer freak out when they see some IPv6 config. They can even debug ISIS and the IPv6 RR without calling you in the middle of the night! On the management side, they actually see IPv6 traffic in the nice monthly graphs, so they’ll remember to put it in the next RFP and even not to cut it from the next budget, if you’re lucky. And 6RD performance is quite good when implemented properly (2-3% hit on bandwidth, 1 ms in latency). What hurts are CPEs with bad implementations (bad option 212 implementation or no MTU reduction). /JF On Jun 20, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: The point is that you can offer IPv6 to a lot of people using various instatntiations of 100.64.0.0/10 but using globally unique IPv6 addresses providing them full true internet access without NAT. Yes, 6rd is a stopgap, but 6rd stopgap is better than multi-natted IPv4 only. Owen On Jun 20, 2014, at 07:22 , Gabriel Blanchard g...@teksavvy.com wrote: 6rd is in my opinion a band-aid solution, I don't see the point of offering IPv6 if it requires IPv4. native IPv6 should be offered where possible. We offer native IPv6 to all our DSL customers but only on an opt-in basis, we're although unfortunately unable to offer IPv6 over Cable since we still depend on a certain incumbent... -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of jean-francois.d...@videotron.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:13 AM To: li...@sadiqs.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org; NANOG Subject: RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Videotron (AS5769) is offering 6RD (RFC5969) to all residential customers, if their gear supports it. (DHCP option 212) (But our MGMT still calls it beta for now.) JF Jean-François Dubé Technicien, Opérations Réseau IP Ingénierie Exploitation des Réseaux Vidéotron NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org a écrit sur 2014-06-18 20:16:01 : De : Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com A : nanog@nanog.org, Date : 2014-06-19 12:43 Objet : Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Envoyé par : NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote: Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment. Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of residential IPv6 connectivity? Is there any progress being made on this front? -- Sadiq Saif
The Cidr Report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 20 21:13:58 2014 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.
Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report.
Recent Table History
Date PrefixesCIDR Agg
13-06-14505414 283965
14-06-14505438 284131
15-06-14505547 284290
16-06-14505639 284236
17-06-14505649 284718
18-06-14506105 284633
19-06-14506550 284600
20-06-14506090 284693
AS Summary
47405 Number of ASes in routing system
19226 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix
3766 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS
AS28573: NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A.,BR
120370688 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s)
AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street,CN
Aggregation Summary
The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only
when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as
to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also
proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes').
--- 20Jun14 ---
ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description
Table 506289 284793 22149643.7% All ASes
AS28573 3766 176 359095.3% NET Serviços de Comunicação
S.A.,BR
AS6389 2952 80 287297.3% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK -
BellSouth.net Inc.,US
AS17974 2800 250 255091.1% TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT
Telekomunikasi Indonesia,ID
AS18881 2047 39 200898.1% Global Village Telecom,BR
AS4766 2924 927 199768.3% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom,KR
AS7029 2360 464 189680.3% WINDSTREAM - Windstream
Communications Inc,US
AS18566 2047 565 148272.4% MEGAPATH5-US - MegaPath
Corporation,US
AS10620 2898 1468 143049.3% Telmex Colombia S.A.,CO
AS7303 1774 433 134175.6% Telecom Argentina S.A.,AR
AS7545 2298 999 129956.5% TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom
Limited,AU
AS4755 1862 585 127768.6% TATACOMM-AS TATA
Communications formerly VSNL
is Leading ISP,IN
AS4323 1644 426 121874.1% TWTC - tw telecom holdings,
inc.,US
AS22773 2562 1454 110843.2% ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC -
Cox Communications Inc.,US
AS7552 1269 171 109886.5% VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel
Corporation,VN
AS36998 1114 37 107796.7% SDN-MOBITEL,SD
AS6983 1382 315 106777.2% ITCDELTA - Earthlink, Inc.,US
AS22561 1307 242 106581.5% AS22561 - CenturyTel Internet
Holdings, Inc.,US
AS4788 1039 153 88685.3% TMNET-AS-AP TM Net, Internet
Service Provider,MY
AS9808 1039 162 87784.4% CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile
Communication Co.Ltd.,CN
AS24560 1162 334 82871.3% AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti
Airtel Ltd., Telemedia
Services,IN
AS9829 1609 783 82651.3% BSNL-NIB National Internet
Backbone,IN
AS4808 1224 412 81266.3% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP
network China169 Beijing
Province Network,CN
AS11492 1251 472 77962.3% CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC.,US
AS7738 979 212 76778.3% Telemar Norte Leste S.A.,BR
AS18101 942 186 75680.3% RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN
Reliance Communications
Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI,IN
AS26615 862 113 74986.9% Tim Celular S.A.,BR
AS8151 1448 700 74851.7% Uninet S.A. de C.V.,MX
AS701 1445 732 71349.3% UUNET - MCI Communications
Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon
Business,US
AS855766 58 70892.4% CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant
BGP Update Report
BGP Update Report Interval: 12-Jun-14 -to- 19-Jun-14 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS47331 170567 6.8% 66.2 -- TTNET TTNet A.S.,TR 2 - AS9829 106400 4.3% 111.8 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone,IN 3 - AS26615 81963 3.3% 169.3 -- Tim Celular S.A.,BR 4 - AS17222 70092 2.8% 209.2 -- Mundivox do Brasil Ltda,BR 5 - AS840236434 1.5% 73.2 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom,RU 6 - AS31148 33238 1.3% 32.6 -- FREENET-AS Freenet Ltd.,UA 7 - AS28573 22947 0.9% 6.1 -- NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A.,BR 8 - AS14287 22808 0.9%3801.3 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc.,US 9 - AS23752 21667 0.9% 433.3 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 10 - AS41691 20601 0.8% 664.5 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC,RU 11 - AS755218151 0.7% 12.1 -- VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Corporation,VN 12 - AS477515278 0.6% 268.0 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms,PH 13 - AS36998 15139 0.6% 13.6 -- SDN-MOBITEL,SD 14 - AS35819 13848 0.6% 33.7 -- MOBILY-AS Etihad Etisalat Company (Mobily),SA 15 - AS23693 13355 0.5% 107.7 -- TELKOMSEL-ASN-ID PT. Telekomunikasi Selular,ID 16 - AS53169 12910 0.5% 806.9 -- Tche Turbo Provedor de Internet LTDA,BR 17 - AS912111965 0.5% 39.4 -- TTNET Turk Telekomunikasyon Anonim Sirketi,TR 18 - AS647 11403 0.5% 92.0 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center,US 19 - AS17557 11329 0.5% 101.2 -- PKTELECOM-AS-PK Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited,PK 20 - AS10620 10746 0.4% 4.8 -- Telmex Colombia S.A.,CO TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS544658511 0.3%8511.0 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc.,US 2 - AS6459 8239 0.3%8239.0 -- TRANSBEAM - I-2000, Inc.,US 3 - AS14287 22808 0.9%3801.3 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc.,US 4 - AS455903262 0.1%3262.0 -- HGCINTNET-AS-AP Hutch Connect,HK 5 - AS603456141 0.2%3070.5 -- NBITI-AS Nahjol Balagheh International Research Institution,IR 6 - AS266618328 0.3%2776.0 -- JCPS-ASN - Jeffco Public Schools,US 7 - AS333773411 0.1%1705.5 -- FHLBC - Federal Home Loan Bank of Chicago,US 8 - AS6629 8247 0.3%1649.4 -- NOAA-AS - NOAA,US 9 - AS181359230 0.4%1318.6 -- BTV BTV Cable television,JP 10 - AS582282630 0.1%1315.0 -- IT-TELECOM-AS LLC IT Telecom,RU 11 - AS7453 2575 0.1%1287.5 -- ACCELERATION - ACCELERATED DATA WORKS, INC.,US 12 - AS572011017 0.0%1017.0 -- EDF-AS Estonian Defence Forces,EE 13 - AS46972 921 0.0% 921.0 -- NORTHSTAR - NORTH STAR COMPANIES,US 14 - AS18379 879 0.0% 879.0 -- CSMNAP-AS-AP CSMNAP-ASN,ID 15 - AS24311 826 0.0% 826.0 -- CNGI-CMNETV6-AS-AP China Mobile Communications Corporation IPv6 network,CN 16 - AS53169 12910 0.5% 806.9 -- Tche Turbo Provedor de Internet LTDA,BR 17 - AS374473028 0.1% 757.0 -- OASIS-SPRL,CD 18 - AS8875 1457 0.1% 728.5 -- SINMA-ASN sinma GmbH,DE 19 - AS248144971 0.2% 710.1 -- SCS-AS Syrian Computer Society, scs,SY 20 - AS255164220 0.2% 703.3 -- INIT-AS init AG fuer digitale Kommunikation,DE TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 89.221.206.0/24 20332 0.8% AS41691 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC,RU 2 - 121.52.145.0/24 11308 0.4% AS17557 -- PKTELECOM-AS-PK Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited,PK AS45773 -- HECPERN-AS-PK PERN AS Content Servie Provider, Islamabad, Pakistan,PK 3 - 202.70.64.0/2110667 0.4% AS23752 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 4 - 202.70.88.0/2110473 0.4% AS23752 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 5 - 42.83.48.0/20 9206 0.3% AS18135 -- BTV BTV Cable television,JP 6 - 177.190.112.0/22 8987 0.3% AS53169 -- Tche Turbo Provedor de Internet LTDA,BR 7 - 206.152.15.0/248511 0.3% AS54465 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc.,US 8 - 205.247.12.0/248239 0.3% AS6459 -- TRANSBEAM - I-2000, Inc.,US 9 - 192.58.232.0/248158 0.3% AS6629 -- NOAA-AS - NOAA,US 10 - 120.28.62.0/24 7699 0.3% AS4775 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms,PH 11 - 222.127.0.0/24 7249 0.3% AS4775 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms,PH 12 - 46.53.64.0/19 5660 0.2% AS24814
