Re: DHCPv6 authentication

2014-08-21 Thread Jared Mauch
I similarly was counting on 802.1x + RA-Guard and other
techniques.

I can easier do an insider attack by gaining console or connecting
to a trusted wire as most places I've seen don't do 802.1x on wired
but do on wireless.

I'm not going to enumerate the universe for the sake of 6man/dhc
or v6ops, and this seems like a futile effort.

- Jared (who sometimes runs a network)

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 03:46:18AM +, Templin, Fred L wrote:
 Hi Jared,
 
 I am assuming 802.1x (or equivalent) security at L2, but the link between
 my DHCPv6 client and server is actually a tunnel that may travel over many
 network layer hops. So, it is possible for legitimate client A to have its
 leases canceled by rogue client B unless DHCPv6 auth or something similar
 is used. Yes, rogue client B would also have to be authenticated to connect
 to the network the same as legitimate client A, but it could be an insider
 attack (e.g., where B is a disgruntled employee trying to get back at a
 corporate adversary A).
 
 Thanks - Fred
 fred.l.temp...@boeing.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:14 PM
  To: Templin, Fred L
  Cc: nanog list
  Subject: Re: DHCPv6 authentication
  
  If you are already connected to the network you are going to be deemed as 
  authenticated. I'm unaware
  of anyone doing dhcp authentication.
  
  Jared Mauch
  
   On Aug 20, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Templin, Fred L 
   fred.l.temp...@boeing.com wrote:
  
   Hi - does anyone know if DHCPv6 authentication is commonly used in
   operational networks? If so, what has been the experience in terms
   of DHCPv6 servers being able to discern legitimate clients from
   rogue clients?
  
   Thanks - Fred
   fred.l.temp...@boeing.com

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RE: DHCPv6 authentication

2014-08-21 Thread Templin, Fred L
Hi, the question is simply whether anyone is using, or knows of any
use of) DHCPv6 Authentication. Does it work? What is the operational
experience?

Thanks - Fred
fred.l.temp...@boeing.com


Ebay/Paypal blocking HTTP access based on SORBS DUHL / Spamhaus PBL

2014-08-21 Thread Tarko Tikan

hey,

For a while now, we have been getting complains from our broadband 
customers about not being able to reach ebay.com/paypal.com


We have nailed it down to some small prefixes and they are all listed in 
SORBS DUHL / Spamhaus PBL and have been listed for ages. These are 
indeed dynamic IP pools and should not send any email (not that SMTP has 
anything to do with HTTP).


For some reason, it looks like ebay/paypal is now blocking HTTP access 
based on these blacklists.


Does anyone have working contact in their NOC or with security people? 
All emails to public contacts have not been answered to.


--
tarko


Re: Ebay/Paypal blocking HTTP access based on SORBS DUHL / Spamhaus PBL

2014-08-21 Thread Steve Atkins

On Aug 21, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Tarko Tikan ta...@lanparty.ee wrote:

 hey,
 
 For a while now, we have been getting complains from our broadband customers 
 about not being able to reach ebay.com/paypal.com
 
 We have nailed it down to some small prefixes and they are all listed in 
 SORBS DUHL / Spamhaus PBL and have been listed for ages. These are indeed 
 dynamic IP pools and should not send any email (not that SMTP has anything to 
 do with HTTP).
 
 For some reason, it looks like ebay/paypal is now blocking HTTP access based 
 on these blacklists.

That seems really unlikely. If they were blocking access purely due to it being 
from dynamically assigned ranges, someone else would have noticed.

High fraud rate or other misbehaviour from those ranges seems more likely.

Can you share the data that makes you think it's the former?

 Does anyone have working contact in their NOC or with security people? All 
 emails to public contacts have not been answered to.

Cheers,
  Steve

Re: Ebay/Paypal blocking HTTP access based on SORBS DUHL / Spamhaus PBL

2014-08-21 Thread John Levine
That seems really unlikely. If they were blocking access purely due to it 
being from dynamically assigned ranges,
someone else would have noticed.

My home IP is in both the PBL and the SORBS DUL and I have no trouble
using ebay or paypal.

Given that the problem range is in Estonia, I expect that it's some
combination of abuse from the specific range and general issues with
traffic from Estonia.

R's,
John




Cabling contractors

2014-08-21 Thread Hank Disuko
Hey folks, 
 
I wonder if anybody knows of some good cabling contractors (structured cabling, 
communication racks, patch panels, all cat5e/6) in the Toronto area?  My office 
desperately needs a clean-up.
 
Thanks!
 
Hank
  

Re: Ebay/Paypal blocking HTTP access based on SORBS DUHL / Spamhaus PBL

2014-08-21 Thread Tarko Tikan

hey,


Can you share the data that makes you think it's the former?


I can't say I'm absolutely sure, hence the question to wider audience. 
But I can say that it's only subset of prefixes that are blocked


What I can do, is provide some blocked IPs as example:
90.190.226.239
90.191.156.199
84.50.65.135

--
tarko


Re: Ebay/Paypal blocking HTTP access based on SORBS DUHL / Spamhaus PBL

2014-08-21 Thread Tarko Tikan

hey,


My home IP is in both the PBL and the SORBS DUL and I have no trouble
using ebay or paypal.


Thanks for confirmation.


Given that the problem range is in Estonia, I expect that it's some
combination of abuse from the specific range and general issues with
traffic from Estonia.


What makes you say that? Any specific examples of trouble you are 
getting from Estonian networks?


--
tarko