Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-01 Thread Larry Sheldon

On 9/1/2014 00:35, Jay Ashworth wrote:

Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than normal.

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Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:34:16 PM
Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High 
Speed Internet is against Sharia
An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
against Sharia

(Iran Human Rights):
http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/

A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser

  ^^
Is that odd?
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The fact that they learn from their mistakes.


Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
well, looking at the ayatollah's website and invoking google translate 
there's this language:


... different mechanisms to secure and protect their users against the 
moral and psychological damage this type of service, including access to 
information, videos and photos from immoral and inhuman, rumors and 
seduction, spying and undermining the foundations of the family ...


so, not a lot goofier than the objection to .xxx made by the usg, or 
available at most media outlets that sell the meme that the internet 
causes shit to happen.


-e

 On 8/31/14 10:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than normal.

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From: PRIVACY Forum mailing list priv...@vortex.com
To: privacy-l...@vortex.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:34:16 PM
Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High 
Speed Internet is against Sharia
An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
against Sharia

(Iran Human Rights):
http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/

A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser
Makarem Shirazi, one of the country's highest clerical authorities,
issued a fatwa, stating All third generation [3G] and high-speed
internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for
the National Information Network [Iran's government-controlled and
censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and]
against moral and human standards.

- - -

Comcast, Verizon, ATT, Time Warner Cable, and other dominant ISPs are
now in a bidding war to hire him as a consultant and board member.

RUN AWAY!!!

Cheers,
-- jra





Re: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-01 Thread manning bill
so Internet in the US is safeā€¦


/bill
Neca eos omnes.  Deus suos agnoscet.

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 Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than normal.
 
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 Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating 
 High Speed Internet is against Sharia
 An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
 against Sharia
 
 (Iran Human Rights):
 http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/
 
 A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
 3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
 answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser
 Makarem Shirazi, one of the country's highest clerical authorities,
 issued a fatwa, stating All third generation [3G] and high-speed
 internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for
 the National Information Network [Iran's government-controlled and
 censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and]
 against moral and human standards.
 
 - - -
 
 Comcast, Verizon, ATT, Time Warner Cable, and other dominant ISPs are
 now in a bidding war to hire him as a consultant and board member.
 
 RUN AWAY!!!
 
 Cheers,
 -- jra
 
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FCC Help Wanted

2014-09-01 Thread Joly MacFie
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/379628100

Job Title:Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist (Internet)

Agency:Federal Communications Commission

SALARY RANGE:

$124,995.00 to $157,100.00 / Per Year

DUTIES:

As Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist (Internet), he/she
serves as a senior expert consultant and advisor with regard to wireline
and wireless broadband technologies used in communications networks,
Internet technologies, Internet networking, and traffic exchange evolution
issues. Provides expert technical and policy advice on the technology,
design, and operations of Internet networks, including changes in network
design and traffic exchange practices and policies resulting from emerging
commercial practices and strategies. Performs investigative analyses and
original research with respect to critical and unprecedented network
operations, service provision, traffic exchange, and content delivery
issues that involve emerging technologies, services, and commercial
incentives; evaluates technical, social, legal, institutional and other
related implications of proposed policy decisions on technology adoption,
deployment, network operations, communications services provision; and
provides input into Commission proceedings that implement those proposed
policy decisions.

Drafts recommendations, decision memoranda, notices of inquiry, notices of
proposed rulemaking, orders, and public notices concerning the technical
and business/financial aspects of designing, building, operating, and
exchanging traffic among Internet backbone networks, and content delivery
and other Internet networks. Drafts correspondence and reports concerning
controversial technical aspects of pending or future issues that may
warrant Commission actions, requesting additional information as necessary.
Initiates correspondence responsive to inquiries from the public, other
government agencies, other parts of the FCC, and Congress. Initiates
communications with the public (including service providers, trade
associations, and consumer groups) concerning technological, business, and
operational issues of specific interest or concern to the Commission.

Provides guidance and leadership over unusually complex newly emerging
technical matters, including those of a precedent-setting nature. Provides
expert technical and policy analysis for the Division on any issues
relating to advanced communications systems, including broadband systems
and the Internet, as assigned by the Division Chief or designees.
Facilitates decision and action on such matters by drafting briefing
material or rulemaking documents and by briefing the Division and/or
Division management on policy or action alternative issues.



QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED:


Specialized Experience: Applicants must have a minimum of one year of
specialized experience equivalent to at least the GS-14 grade level in the
Federal service.

For this position, specialized experience includes the following:

1) Experience applying knowledge of network management and operations,
network architecture, Internet technologies and services, broadband
technologies, data communications, and communications network technology;

2) Experience in a variety of communications networks and systems including
Internet and broadband networks;

3) Experience performing investigative analyses and original research with
respect to unprecedented network operations and service provision issues
that involve emerging technologies; and

4) Experience presenting complex technical and policy information to
various audiences.




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Re: Prefix hijacking, how to prevent and fix currently

2014-09-01 Thread Tarun Dua
Would it not help if RIPE un-publishes these ASN's from their whois database ?

I filed the abuse report at RIPE but haven't heard back from them. We
are NOT a RIPE member but an APNIC member.

Regards
-Tarun

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Doug Madory dmad...@renesys.com wrote:

 Ah yes BusinessTorg (AS60937). I have also seen this one doing what you
 are describing. Not to MSFT or GOOG, but another major technology company
 that we peer with. In fact, it is going on right now but only visible if
 you receive routes directly from them. A while ago, I sent them a note
 describing what was happening and suggested they might want to stop
 accepting routes from that AS, but they still do.



 Be aware that even if you don't think you're
 peering with them directly, you may be picking
 up routes via the public route servers at exchange
 points, so check to see if you need to apply
 filters on your route server peerings as well.

 Matt


Re: Prefix hijacking, how to prevent and fix currently

2014-09-01 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hi Tarun

Not really. People who are filtering route are filtering already since only
you have route object for it and people who are not filtering, for them
RIPE DB and whois won't matter.






On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Tarun Dua li...@tarundua.net wrote:

 Would it not help if RIPE un-publishes these ASN's from their whois
 database ?

 I filed the abuse report at RIPE but haven't heard back from them. We
 are NOT a RIPE member but an APNIC member.

 Regards
 -Tarun

 On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com
 wrote:
  On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Doug Madory dmad...@renesys.com
 wrote:
 
  Ah yes BusinessTorg (AS60937). I have also seen this one doing what you
  are describing. Not to MSFT or GOOG, but another major technology
 company
  that we peer with. In fact, it is going on right now but only visible if
  you receive routes directly from them. A while ago, I sent them a note
  describing what was happening and suggested they might want to stop
  accepting routes from that AS, but they still do.
 
 
 
  Be aware that even if you don't think you're
  peering with them directly, you may be picking
  up routes via the public route servers at exchange
  points, so check to see if you need to apply
  filters on your route server peerings as well.
 
  Matt




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Re: Prefix hijacking, how to prevent and fix currently

2014-09-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-09-01 14:58 +0530), Tarun Dua wrote:

Hi,

 Would it not help if RIPE un-publishes these ASN's from their whois database ?
 
 I filed the abuse report at RIPE but haven't heard back from them. We
 are NOT a RIPE member but an APNIC member.

Not sure against what RIPE rule it would be and what kind of leverage RIPE
could have here, even if we know they are intentionally evil.

However if I'd be supporting my family with this type of business model, I
would simply appear to be very bad at it, not evil. So I would claim that we
didn't do anything bad here, it was one of our customer (as they do have
different origin AS), and when pointed out, that this ASN has never been your
customer and cannot be, as completely different physical location, I'd simply
say we seeme to have verify-first-as turned off, so it could have been anyone,
and we're hard at work resolving it.
All of this with appropriate delay in answering to queries so you can keep on
doing it years before it's even clear you're evil not just really bad in your
job.

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Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams

see also:
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/09/iran-3g-phones-filter-unsanitary-water.html#

restated slightly, video, the primary vehicle for porn, needs minders, 
text, the primary vehicle for ideas, does not.


-e

On 8/31/14 11:08 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
well, looking at the ayatollah's website and invoking google translate 
there's this language:


... different mechanisms to secure and protect their users against 
the moral and psychological damage this type of service, including 
access to information, videos and photos from immoral and inhuman, 
rumors and seduction, spying and undermining the foundations of the 
family ...


so, not a lot goofier than the objection to .xxx made by the usg, or 
available at most media outlets that sell the meme that the internet 
causes shit to happen.


-e

 On 8/31/14 10:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than normal.

- Forwarded Message -

From: PRIVACY Forum mailing list priv...@vortex.com
To: privacy-l...@vortex.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:34:16 PM
Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa 
Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
against Sharia

(Iran Human Rights):
http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/

A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser
Makarem Shirazi, one of the country's highest clerical authorities,
issued a fatwa, stating All third generation [3G] and high-speed
internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for
the National Information Network [Iran's government-controlled and
censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and]
against moral and human standards.

- - -

Comcast, Verizon, ATT, Time Warner Cable, and other dominant ISPs are
now in a bidding war to hire him as a consultant and board member.

RUN AWAY!!!

Cheers,
-- jra









Re: FCC Help Wanted

2014-09-01 Thread Nick B
Will applications without a cancelled check for at least 100k in
donations be considered?
Nick


On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote:

 https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/379628100

 Job Title:Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist (Internet)

 Agency:Federal Communications Commission

 SALARY RANGE:

 $124,995.00 to $157,100.00 / Per Year

 DUTIES:

 As Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist (Internet), he/she
 serves as a senior expert consultant and advisor with regard to wireline
 and wireless broadband technologies used in communications networks,
 Internet technologies, Internet networking, and traffic exchange evolution
 issues. Provides expert technical and policy advice on the technology,
 design, and operations of Internet networks, including changes in network
 design and traffic exchange practices and policies resulting from emerging
 commercial practices and strategies. Performs investigative analyses and
 original research with respect to critical and unprecedented network
 operations, service provision, traffic exchange, and content delivery
 issues that involve emerging technologies, services, and commercial
 incentives; evaluates technical, social, legal, institutional and other
 related implications of proposed policy decisions on technology adoption,
 deployment, network operations, communications services provision; and
 provides input into Commission proceedings that implement those proposed
 policy decisions.

 Drafts recommendations, decision memoranda, notices of inquiry, notices of
 proposed rulemaking, orders, and public notices concerning the technical
 and business/financial aspects of designing, building, operating, and
 exchanging traffic among Internet backbone networks, and content delivery
 and other Internet networks. Drafts correspondence and reports concerning
 controversial technical aspects of pending or future issues that may
 warrant Commission actions, requesting additional information as necessary.
 Initiates correspondence responsive to inquiries from the public, other
 government agencies, other parts of the FCC, and Congress. Initiates
 communications with the public (including service providers, trade
 associations, and consumer groups) concerning technological, business, and
 operational issues of specific interest or concern to the Commission.

 Provides guidance and leadership over unusually complex newly emerging
 technical matters, including those of a precedent-setting nature. Provides
 expert technical and policy analysis for the Division on any issues
 relating to advanced communications systems, including broadband systems
 and the Internet, as assigned by the Division Chief or designees.
 Facilitates decision and action on such matters by drafting briefing
 material or rulemaking documents and by briefing the Division and/or
 Division management on policy or action alternative issues.

 

 QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED:


 Specialized Experience: Applicants must have a minimum of one year of
 specialized experience equivalent to at least the GS-14 grade level in the
 Federal service.

 For this position, specialized experience includes the following:

 1) Experience applying knowledge of network management and operations,
 network architecture, Internet technologies and services, broadband
 technologies, data communications, and communications network technology;

 2) Experience in a variety of communications networks and systems including
 Internet and broadband networks;

 3) Experience performing investigative analyses and original research with
 respect to unprecedented network operations and service provision issues
 that involve emerging technologies; and

 4) Experience presenting complex technical and policy information to
 various audiences.




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 Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
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RE: FCC Help Wanted

2014-09-01 Thread Keith Medcalf

Of couse such applications will be accepted.  However, applicants are warned 
that failure to include a donation will require alternate verification of the 
requisite lack of morals and ethics.

Will applications without a cancelled check for at least 100k in
donations be considered?

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote:

 https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/379628100

 Job Title:Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist
(Internet)

 Agency:Federal Communications Commission

 SALARY RANGE:

 $124,995.00 to $157,100.00 / Per Year

 DUTIES:

 As Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist (Internet),
he/she
 serves as a senior expert consultant and advisor with regard to
wireline
 and wireless broadband technologies used in communications networks,
 Internet technologies, Internet networking, and traffic exchange
evolution
 issues. Provides expert technical and policy advice on the technology,
 design, and operations of Internet networks, including changes in
network
 design and traffic exchange practices and policies resulting from
emerging
 commercial practices and strategies. Performs investigative analyses
and
 original research with respect to critical and unprecedented network
 operations, service provision, traffic exchange, and content delivery
 issues that involve emerging technologies, services, and commercial
 incentives; evaluates technical, social, legal, institutional and other
 related implications of proposed policy decisions on technology
adoption,
 deployment, network operations, communications services provision; and
 provides input into Commission proceedings that implement those
proposed
 policy decisions.

 Drafts recommendations, decision memoranda, notices of inquiry, notices
of
 proposed rulemaking, orders, and public notices concerning the
technical
 and business/financial aspects of designing, building, operating, and
 exchanging traffic among Internet backbone networks, and content
delivery
 and other Internet networks. Drafts correspondence and reports
concerning
 controversial technical aspects of pending or future issues that may
 warrant Commission actions, requesting additional information as
necessary.
 Initiates correspondence responsive to inquiries from the public, other
 government agencies, other parts of the FCC, and Congress. Initiates
 communications with the public (including service providers, trade
 associations, and consumer groups) concerning technological, business,
and
 operational issues of specific interest or concern to the Commission.

 Provides guidance and leadership over unusually complex newly emerging
 technical matters, including those of a precedent-setting nature.
Provides
 expert technical and policy analysis for the Division on any issues
 relating to advanced communications systems, including broadband
systems
 and the Internet, as assigned by the Division Chief or designees.
 Facilitates decision and action on such matters by drafting briefing
 material or rulemaking documents and by briefing the Division and/or
 Division management on policy or action alternative issues.

 

 QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED:


 Specialized Experience: Applicants must have a minimum of one year of
 specialized experience equivalent to at least the GS-14 grade level in
the
 Federal service.

 For this position, specialized experience includes the following:

 1) Experience applying knowledge of network management and operations,
 network architecture, Internet technologies and services, broadband
 technologies, data communications, and communications network
technology;

 2) Experience in a variety of communications networks and systems
including
 Internet and broadband networks;

 3) Experience performing investigative analyses and original research
with
 respect to unprecedented network operations and service provision
issues
 that involve emerging technologies; and

 4) Experience presenting complex technical and policy information to
 various audiences.




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Re: FCC Help Wanted

2014-09-01 Thread Grant Ridder
If you have ties to Grand Ayatollah, it would probably be an automatic 
acceptance into the position.

Grant

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 1, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote:
 
 
 Of couse such applications will be accepted.  However, applicants are warned 
 that failure to include a donation will require alternate verification of the 
 requisite lack of morals and ethics.
 
 Will applications without a cancelled check for at least 100k in
 donations be considered?
 
 On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote:
 
 https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/379628100
 
 Job Title:Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist
 (Internet)
 
 Agency:Federal Communications Commission
 
 SALARY RANGE:
 
 $124,995.00 to $157,100.00 / Per Year
 
 DUTIES:
 
 As Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist (Internet),
 he/she
 serves as a senior expert consultant and advisor with regard to
 wireline
 and wireless broadband technologies used in communications networks,
 Internet technologies, Internet networking, and traffic exchange
 evolution
 issues. Provides expert technical and policy advice on the technology,
 design, and operations of Internet networks, including changes in
 network
 design and traffic exchange practices and policies resulting from
 emerging
 commercial practices and strategies. Performs investigative analyses
 and
 original research with respect to critical and unprecedented network
 operations, service provision, traffic exchange, and content delivery
 issues that involve emerging technologies, services, and commercial
 incentives; evaluates technical, social, legal, institutional and other
 related implications of proposed policy decisions on technology
 adoption,
 deployment, network operations, communications services provision; and
 provides input into Commission proceedings that implement those
 proposed
 policy decisions.
 
 Drafts recommendations, decision memoranda, notices of inquiry, notices
 of
 proposed rulemaking, orders, and public notices concerning the
 technical
 and business/financial aspects of designing, building, operating, and
 exchanging traffic among Internet backbone networks, and content
 delivery
 and other Internet networks. Drafts correspondence and reports
 concerning
 controversial technical aspects of pending or future issues that may
 warrant Commission actions, requesting additional information as
 necessary.
 Initiates correspondence responsive to inquiries from the public, other
 government agencies, other parts of the FCC, and Congress. Initiates
 communications with the public (including service providers, trade
 associations, and consumer groups) concerning technological, business,
 and
 operational issues of specific interest or concern to the Commission.
 
 Provides guidance and leadership over unusually complex newly emerging
 technical matters, including those of a precedent-setting nature.
 Provides
 expert technical and policy analysis for the Division on any issues
 relating to advanced communications systems, including broadband
 systems
 and the Internet, as assigned by the Division Chief or designees.
 Facilitates decision and action on such matters by drafting briefing
 material or rulemaking documents and by briefing the Division and/or
 Division management on policy or action alternative issues.
 
 
 
 QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED:
 
 
 Specialized Experience: Applicants must have a minimum of one year of
 specialized experience equivalent to at least the GS-14 grade level in
 the
 Federal service.
 
 For this position, specialized experience includes the following:
 
 1) Experience applying knowledge of network management and operations,
 network architecture, Internet technologies and services, broadband
 technologies, data communications, and communications network
 technology;
 
 2) Experience in a variety of communications networks and systems
 including
 Internet and broadband networks;
 
 3) Experience performing investigative analyses and original research
 with
 respect to unprecedented network operations and service provision
 issues
 that involve emerging technologies; and
 
 4) Experience presenting complex technical and policy information to
 various audiences.
 
 
 
 
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 Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
 WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
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Re: Prefix hijacking, how to prevent and fix currently

2014-09-01 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi
 Loose mode RPKI:
  - verified or unknown less-specific route is preferable to failing 
 more-specific

Or said otherwise when choosing route from Adj-RIBs-In to Loc-RIB longest
match is not done to whole population, population is first divided to
'verified', 'unknown' and 'failed' routes, and longest match is done for each
sub-population in order, until match is found.

Of course, a PRO you are seeking to achieve is:

If Org. A is parent and upstream of Org. B, and Org. A has created a ROA for 
its 
own less specific, while no ROA has been created (due to negligence, oversight, 
etc.) 
for the suballocation (more specific) of Org. B,
and if Org. A happens *not* to announce its less specific, then Org. B's 
announcement 
of the more specific from its own AS will be treated softly. 
That is, Org. B's announcement will be 'Invalid' but nevertheless the route is 
accepted/installed by any receiving AS that is using the 'Loose' mode.  
This is the benign/beneficial use of 'Loose' mode.
   
But the CON here is:

For instance, Org. C owns a prefix but has not yet deployed any services using 
it.
Org. C created a ROA (perhaps even an ROA with AS0) purely with the intent 
to make sure that no one else can get away with announcing any
subprefix (more specific) under its prefix unless they have a ROA for the 
subprefix.
The 'Loose' mode obviously defeats this.
Some Org. D can maliciously announce a subprefix under Org. C's prefix,
and get away with it due to the 'Loose' mode.

So there will be this tension between the PRO and CON of your 'Loose' mode.

I think, 'Loose mode', if used at all, should not be used beyond a short grace 
period.
Beyond the grace period, network operators and their customers will be 
well advised to adhere to the following from RFC 7115: 
Before issuing a ROA for a super-block, an operator MUST ensure that
   all sub-allocations from that block that are announced by other ASes,
   e.g., customers, have correct ROAs in the RPKI.

Sriram   




   


Multicast Internet Route table.

2014-09-01 Thread S, Somasundaram (Somasundaram)
Members
I have few questions related to Multicast deployment in the internet today.
1: Does all the ISP's provide Multicast Routing by default?
2:  Is there any placeholder where one can get to know the Multicast Internet 
Route table (usage, stability etc) just like Unicast Route table 
(http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net)?





Re: FCC Help Wanted

2014-09-01 Thread mcfbbqroast .
What value of shares in major telecommunications companies would be
considered adequate for such a role?
On 2 Sep 2014 09:30, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you have ties to Grand Ayatollah, it would probably be an automatic
 acceptance into the position.

 Grant

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 1, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote:
 
 
  Of couse such applications will be accepted.  However, applicants are
 warned that failure to include a donation will require alternate
 verification of the requisite lack of morals and ethics.
 
  Will applications without a cancelled check for at least 100k in
  donations be considered?
 
  On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote:
 
  https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/379628100
 
  Job Title:Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist
  (Internet)
 
  Agency:Federal Communications Commission
 
  SALARY RANGE:
 
  $124,995.00 to $157,100.00 / Per Year
 
  DUTIES:
 
  As Telecommunications Policy and Technology Specialist (Internet),
  he/she
  serves as a senior expert consultant and advisor with regard to
  wireline
  and wireless broadband technologies used in communications networks,
  Internet technologies, Internet networking, and traffic exchange
  evolution
  issues. Provides expert technical and policy advice on the technology,
  design, and operations of Internet networks, including changes in
  network
  design and traffic exchange practices and policies resulting from
  emerging
  commercial practices and strategies. Performs investigative analyses
  and
  original research with respect to critical and unprecedented network
  operations, service provision, traffic exchange, and content delivery
  issues that involve emerging technologies, services, and commercial
  incentives; evaluates technical, social, legal, institutional and other
  related implications of proposed policy decisions on technology
  adoption,
  deployment, network operations, communications services provision; and
  provides input into Commission proceedings that implement those
  proposed
  policy decisions.
 
  Drafts recommendations, decision memoranda, notices of inquiry, notices
  of
  proposed rulemaking, orders, and public notices concerning the
  technical
  and business/financial aspects of designing, building, operating, and
  exchanging traffic among Internet backbone networks, and content
  delivery
  and other Internet networks. Drafts correspondence and reports
  concerning
  controversial technical aspects of pending or future issues that may
  warrant Commission actions, requesting additional information as
  necessary.
  Initiates correspondence responsive to inquiries from the public, other
  government agencies, other parts of the FCC, and Congress. Initiates
  communications with the public (including service providers, trade
  associations, and consumer groups) concerning technological, business,
  and
  operational issues of specific interest or concern to the Commission.
 
  Provides guidance and leadership over unusually complex newly emerging
  technical matters, including those of a precedent-setting nature.
  Provides
  expert technical and policy analysis for the Division on any issues
  relating to advanced communications systems, including broadband
  systems
  and the Internet, as assigned by the Division Chief or designees.
  Facilitates decision and action on such matters by drafting briefing
  material or rulemaking documents and by briefing the Division and/or
  Division management on policy or action alternative issues.
 
  
 
  QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED:
 
 
  Specialized Experience: Applicants must have a minimum of one year of
  specialized experience equivalent to at least the GS-14 grade level in
  the
  Federal service.
 
  For this position, specialized experience includes the following:
 
  1) Experience applying knowledge of network management and operations,
  network architecture, Internet technologies and services, broadband
  technologies, data communications, and communications network
  technology;
 
  2) Experience in a variety of communications networks and systems
  including
  Internet and broadband networks;
 
  3) Experience performing investigative analyses and original research
  with
  respect to unprecedented network operations and service provision
  issues
  that involve emerging technologies; and
 
  4) Experience presenting complex technical and policy information to
  various audiences.
 
 
 
 
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