Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post)

2015-06-05 Thread Roland Dobbins


On 5 Jun 2015, at 10:56, David Mandelberg wrote:


Could you elaborate on your enumeration and DDoS concerns?


Crypto = more overhead.  Less priority to crypto plus DDoS = routing 
update issues.


One can infer peering relationships in a way not possible before.

What about bogus signatures?

---
Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net


Re: FastNetMon 1.1.2 - open source solution for DoS/DDoS mitigation

2015-06-05 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Hello, folks!

Due to huge interest about VM's I have prepared VyOS based ISO image
with FastNetMon:
https://github.com/FastVPSEestiOu/fastnetmon/blob/master/docs/VYOS_BINARY_ISO_IMAGE.md

You could run it with any virtual machine and just aim your
sflow/netflow targets to it! :)

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
 You could look into LXD for that type of deployment.

 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Pavel Odintsov pavel.odint...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Brilliant idea! But in Docker we could offer only sflow and sflow. Port
 mirror capture need support from the kernel side. Will try shortly!

 On Thursday, June 4, 2015, Roberto Bertó roberto.be...@gmail.com wrote:

  What about we build a Docker?
 
  2015-06-04 14:47 GMT-03:00 Alexander Maassen outsi...@scarynet.org
  javascript:;:
 
   It's a security tool. So ppl using it want to publicly hide the fact
   they
   use it in case you screw up and it contains leaks ;)
  
    Oorspronkelijk bericht 
   Van: Pavel Odintsov pavel.odint...@gmail.com javascript:;
   Datum:
   Aan: Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com javascript:;
   Cc: nanog@nanog.org javascript:;
   Onderwerp: Re: FastNetMon 1.1.2 - open source solution for DoS/DDoS
   mitigation
  
   Looks like many folks want hide company emails ;) I'm good guy and
   will
  not
   spam or offer slmething ;)))
  
   But I'm impressed about amount of off list requests. Really huge
   interest
   in tool.
  
   On Thursday, June 4, 2015, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com
  javascript:; wrote:
  
There's a surprising amount of GMail (yes, including me) and
new-ness
in this thread.Should I be impressed with the freshness or
concerned about astroturfing?   :-)
   
Bah Humbug!
   
-Jim P.
   
  
  
   --
   Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov
  
 


 --
 Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov





-- 
Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov


Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-06-05 Thread Owen DeLong

 On Jun 4, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:11 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
 I’d argue that SSH is several thousand, not a few hundred. In any case, I 
 suppose you can make the argument that only a few people are trying to 
 access their home network resources remotely other than via some sort of 
 proxy/rendezvous service. However, I would argue that such services exist 
 solely to provide a workaround for the deficiencies in the network 
 introduced by NAT. Get rid of the stupid NAT and you no longer need such 
 services.
 
 This is an interesting argument/point, but if you remove the rendevous
 service then how do you find the thing in your house? now the user has
 to manage DNS, or the service in question has to manage a dns entry
 for the customer, right?

DNS is pretty easy. There are dozen’s of free web-UI based DNS services out 
there. Some of them even run by registrars.

 you'll be moving the (some of the) pain from 'nat' to 'dns' (or more
 generally naming and identification). I think though that in a better
 world, a service related to the thing you want to prod from outside
 would manage this stuff for you.

I’m unconvinced. Perhaps I prefer to create an entry once vs. pay for some 
other service to do this and charge me on a monthly basis for a one-time action.

 It's important (I think) to not simplify the discussion as: Oh, with
 ipv6 magic happens! because there are still problems and design
 things to overcome even with unhindered end-to-end connectivity.

I made no attempt to declare that there was any magic with IPv6. Indeed, my 
claim is that less magic is required.

Owen



Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-06-05 Thread Owen DeLong

 On Jun 4, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
 
 On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:24 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 let's skip all NAT discussions on this topic from here on out, yes?
 
 Only if you can promise me 100% that the NAT in question will not break 
 anything.
 
 :) people don't seem to be bothered today.

People seem to tolerate it today. It is not clear to what extent they are not 
bothered vs. to what extent they suffer in silence because they do not know of 
any viable alternative.

Owen



Weekly Routing Table Report

2015-06-05 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet
Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan.

The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG,
CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group.

Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net

For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net.

If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith pfsi...@gmail.com.

Routing Table Report   04:00 +10GMT Sat 06 Jun, 2015

Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net
Detailed Analysis:  http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/

Analysis Summary


BGP routing table entries examined:  547692
Prefixes after maximum aggregation (per Origin AS):  207937
Deaggregation factor:  2.63
Unique aggregates announced (without unneeded subnets):  266421
Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 50534
Prefixes per ASN: 10.84
Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   36693
Origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   16281
Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:6318
Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:164
Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table:   4.5
Max AS path length visible:  41
Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 12486)  32
Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table:  1186
Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 419
Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs:   9729
Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:7523
Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table:   27427
Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:12
Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table:0
Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space:384
Number of addresses announced to Internet:   2770664672
Equivalent to 165 /8s, 36 /16s and 252 /24s
Percentage of available address space announced:   74.8
Percentage of allocated address space announced:   74.8
Percentage of available address space allocated:  100.0
Percentage of address space in use by end-sites:   97.4
Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations:  183256

APNIC Region Analysis Summary
-

Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes:   135256
Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation:   39207
APNIC Deaggregation factor:3.45
Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks:  141679
Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:56816
APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:5059
APNIC Prefixes per ASN:   28.01
APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   1201
APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:876
Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:4.4
Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 24
Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:   1478
Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet:  749103296
Equivalent to 44 /8s, 166 /16s and 104 /24s
Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 87.5

APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431
(pre-ERX allocations)  23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319,
   58368-59391, 63488-64098, 131072-135580
APNIC Address Blocks 1/8,  14/8,  27/8,  36/8,  39/8,  42/8,  43/8,
49/8,  58/8,  59/8,  60/8,  61/8, 101/8, 103/8,
   106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8,
   116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8,
   123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8,
   163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8,
   203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8,
   222/8, 223/8,

ARIN Region Analysis Summary


Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:179934
Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:88238
ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.04
Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks:   182237
Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 85060
ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:16629
ARIN Prefixes per 

Re: stacking pdu

2015-06-05 Thread Blake Hudson



Rob Seastrom wrote on 6/4/2015 4:52 PM:

William Herrin b...@herrin.us writes:


Isn't it against the NEC and the fire code to stack power strips? We
all do it, but isn't it against code?

...

As always, when someone asserts that X is against code whether in
the form of a statement or a question, the proper response is
Citation, please!

-r



The fire marshal that regularly inspects our building will cite us if he 
sees an extension cord in use - even temporarily - or sees a temporary 
power tap/surge suppressor connected to another. Meanwhile, in another 
city, I see government and commercial buildings violating these rules 
for years. Perhaps there's some amount of interpretation allowed or some 
inspectors are more aggressive than others.


--Blake


100G DWDM FEC standard

2015-06-05 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson


Hi,

I just watched the evolution of ethernet speeds presentation from NANOG 
meeting. There was a statement that there was vendor secret sauce in the 
100G DWDM space. Yes, that is true, but:


http://www.stupi.se/Standards/100G-long-haul4.pdf

There actually is a standard for 100G DWDM that has support from multiple 
router vendors. When you buy new gear, make sure your vendors support the 
above standard, so we can connect our routers over longer distances 
between vendors, without needing transponders.


We in the Deutsche Telecom Terastream project have Huawei, Cisco, Juniper 
and ALU routers that natively (DWDM colored interfaces in the routers) 
talk directly to each other over 1500 km amplified DWDM system (no 
transponders), and we can also talk from these routers interfaces to Cisco 
and ALU transponders if we want to.


https://jeffloughridge.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/peter-lothbergs-terastream-presentation-at-ripe-67/ 
if you want to know more about the project.


Next time you purchase 100G DWDM equipment, make sure you buy equipment 
that follows this standard to be certain that it interoperates to combat 
vendor secret sauce.


--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se


Re: NANOG 64 recordings

2015-06-05 Thread Betty Burke be...@nanog.org
Working to find out and track down missing video.

We will keep you posted.

All best.
Betty


On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Pete Baldridge petebaldri...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On June 4, 2015 10:11:02 AM PDT, Victor Zakharyev 
 victor.zakhar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone have videos from Google presentations on Telemetry?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Victor
 
 чт, 4 июня 2015 г. в 9:51, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com:
 
  - Original Message -
   From: Sadiq Saif li...@sadiqs.com
 
   For those that missed them:
  
 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO8DR5ZGla8ju3ftZv_S6L12jBkZKEJVZ
 
  Oh, outstanding.  Thanks.
 
  Cheers,
  -- jra
  --
  Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink
  j...@baylink.com
  Designer The Things I Think
 RFC
  2100
  Ashworth  Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land
  Rover DII
  St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727
 647
  1274
 

 Can anyone comment on what was in the video that's been removed?  Is there
 somewhere else that it can be found?
 --
 Pete
 Sent from mobile.



Re: stacking pdu

2015-06-05 Thread Stephen Satchell

On 06/05/2015 11:47 AM, Blake Hudson wrote:

The fire marshal that regularly inspects our building will cite us if he
sees an extension cord in use - even temporarily - or sees a temporary
power tap/surge suppressor connected to another. Meanwhile, in another
city, I see government and commercial buildings violating these rules
for years. Perhaps there's some amount of interpretation allowed or some
inspectors are more aggressive than others.


Or the local ordinances block daisy-chaining.  I've run into this in 
several parts of the country, while other parts don't have local 
regulations -- particularly in commercial spaces, which include offices.


Re: stacking pdu

2015-06-05 Thread Brian Loveland
APC does make some 'half rack' PDU's that take a C20 inlet so they could
hang off a C19 outlet on another PDU:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP8858displayList=ALLpage_type=displaybasicprinter_friendly=yes
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP7821displayList=ALLpage_type=displaybasicprinter_friendly=yes

On the software side, just use a master PDU with metering.  These sub
ones are also metered but you would want to look at the total utilization
on the master.

No comment if its to code...

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:51 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I was kinda thinking this would turn out to be a dumb question / have
 an obvious answer. Apparently not. But it seems I can't go buy a solution
 either. I guess there isn't much of a market (though I am just talking
 software - maybe someone could make an update :) ).



Re: stacking pdu

2015-06-05 Thread Sean Donelan

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Blake Hudson wrote:
The fire marshal that regularly inspects our building will cite us if he sees 
an extension cord in use - even temporarily - or sees a temporary power 
tap/surge suppressor connected to another. Meanwhile, in another city, I see 
government and commercial buildings violating these rules for years. Perhaps 
there's some amount of interpretation allowed or some inspectors are more 
aggressive than others.


Every Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ) is their own fiefdom.  Although
there are a few model national codes, its the locally enacted law and AHJ
interpretation that rules.

And, yes, the effectiveness and knowledge of AHJs varies greatly. It 
wouldn't surprise me if there were some places with no building codes

or inspectors.



The Cidr Report

2015-06-05 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun  5 21:14:36 2015 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.

Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report.

Recent Table History
Date  PrefixesCIDR Agg
29-05-15554940  306130
30-05-15555224  305988
31-05-15555285  303956
01-06-15555184  304348
02-06-15555140  304122
03-06-15555349  304869
04-06-15555053  304962
05-06-15555774  304969


AS Summary
 50788  Number of ASes in routing system
 20205  Number of ASes announcing only one prefix
  3247  Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS
AS10620: Telmex Colombia S.A.,CO
  120824832  Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s)
AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street,CN


Aggregation Summary
The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only
when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as 
to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also
proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes').

 --- 05Jun15 ---
ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr  NetGain   % Gain   Description

Table 556726   305104   25162245.2%   All ASes

AS22773 3094  172 292294.4%   ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC -
   Cox Communications Inc.,US
AS6389  2795   99 269696.5%   BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK -
   BellSouth.net Inc.,US
AS9394  2923  316 260789.2%   CTTNET China TieTong
   Telecommunications
   Corporation,CN
AS17974 2688   81 260797.0%   TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT
   Telekomunikasi Indonesia,ID
AS39891 2473   34 243998.6%   ALJAWWALSTC-AS Saudi Telecom
   Company JSC,SA
AS28573 2256  288 196887.2%   NET Serviços de Comunicação
   S.A.,BR
AS3356  2571  776 179569.8%   LEVEL3 - Level 3
   Communications, Inc.,US
AS4755  2021  260 176187.1%   TATACOMM-AS TATA
   Communications formerly VSNL
   is Leading ISP,IN
AS4766  2923 1303 162055.4%   KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom,KR
AS9808  1584   67 151795.8%   CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile
   Communication Co.Ltd.,CN
AS6983  1747  247 150085.9%   ITCDELTA - Earthlink, Inc.,US
AS10620 3247 1828 141943.7%   Telmex Colombia S.A.,CO
AS20115 1883  489 139474.0%   CHARTER-NET-HKY-NC - Charter
   Communications,US
AS7303  1666  287 137982.8%   Telecom Argentina S.A.,AR
AS6147  1617  281 133682.6%   Telefonica del Peru S.A.A.,PE
AS9498  1336  117 121991.2%   BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd.,IN
AS4323  1614  411 120374.5%   TWTC - tw telecom holdings,
   inc.,US
AS18566 2047  895 115256.3%   MEGAPATH5-US - MegaPath
   Corporation,US
AS7545  2646 1498 114843.4%   TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom
   Limited,AU
AS22561 1365  260 110581.0%   CENTURYLINK-LEGACY-LIGHTCORE -
   CenturyTel Internet Holdings,
   Inc.,US
AS7552  1155   59 109694.9%   VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel
   Corporation,VN
AS8402  1033   26 100797.5%   CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom,RU
AS6849  1210  221  98981.7%   UKRTELNET JSC UKRTELECOM,UA
AS8151  1696  733  96356.8%   Uninet S.A. de C.V.,MX
AS4538  1953 1037  91646.9%   ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education
   and Research Network
   Center,CN
AS7738   999   83  91691.7%   Telemar Norte Leste S.A.,BR
AS26615 1072  173  89983.9%   Tim Celular S.A.,BR
AS38285  979  126  85387.1%   M2TELECOMMUNICATIONS-AU M2
   Telecommunications Group
   Ltd,AU
AS18881  869   33  83696.2%   Global Village Telecom,BR
AS4780  1112  299  81373.1%   SEEDNET Digital United Inc.,TW

Total  56574

Re: stacking pdu

2015-06-05 Thread Eric Tykwinski
I was pretty much thinking the same, get a switched/metered outlet PDU.  APC, 
ServerTech, et al have them, then daisy chain something like a Dell AP6015 off 
the outlet.  No clue about NEC/local laws, but the Dells are pretty much setup 
for that type of setup.

 On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Brian Loveland br...@bloveland.com wrote:
 
 APC does make some 'half rack' PDU's that take a C20 inlet so they could
 hang off a C19 outlet on another PDU:
 http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP8858displayList=ALLpage_type=displaybasicprinter_friendly=yes
 http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP7821displayList=ALLpage_type=displaybasicprinter_friendly=yes
 
 On the software side, just use a master PDU with metering.  These sub
 ones are also metered but you would want to look at the total utilization
 on the master.
 
 No comment if its to code...
 
 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:51 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I was kinda thinking this would turn out to be a dumb question / have
 an obvious answer. Apparently not. But it seems I can't go buy a solution
 either. I guess there isn't much of a market (though I am just talking
 software - maybe someone could make an update :) ).
 




Re: stacking pdu

2015-06-05 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Blake Hudson bl...@ispn.net wrote:
 William Herrin b...@herrin.us writes:
 Isn't it against the NEC and the fire code to stack power strips? We
 all do it, but isn't it against code?

 The fire marshal that regularly inspects our building will cite us if he
 sees an extension cord in use - even temporarily - or sees a temporary power
 tap/surge suppressor connected to another.

I was dinged for power strips connected to a cube tap. I don't have
the citation handy, but I looked it up at the time and it was
definitely against code.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



-- 
William Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us
Owner, Dirtside Systems . Web: http://www.dirtside.com/


BGP Update Report

2015-06-05 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report
Interval: 28-May-15 -to- 04-Jun-15 (7 days)
Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072

TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS23752  303258  5.1%1849.1 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal 
Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP
 2 - AS9829   211796  3.6% 124.2 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet 
Backbone,IN
 3 - AS22059  118918  2.0%   16988.3 -- APVIO-1 - Apvio, Inc.,US
 4 - AS45899   92287  1.6% 141.8 -- VNPT-AS-VN VNPT Corp,VN
 5 - AS36947   86629  1.5% 444.3 -- ALGTEL-AS,DZ
 6 - AS605784636  1.4% 148.7 -- Administracion Nacional de 
Telecomunicaciones,UY
 7 - AS54169   76305  1.3%   25435.0 -- MGH-ION-1 - Marin General 
Hospital,US
 8 - AS755268403  1.1%  52.4 -- VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel 
Corporation,VN
 9 - AS370963454  1.1%2350.1 -- NET-CITY-SA - City of San 
Antonio,US
10 - AS45609   62338  1.1%  98.9 -- BHARTI-MOBILITY-AS-AP Bharti 
Airtel Ltd. AS for GPRS Service,IN
11 - AS17451   46776  0.8% 113.5 -- BIZNET-AS-AP BIZNET NETWORKS,ID
12 - AS39891   45386  0.8%  18.4 -- ALJAWWALSTC-AS Saudi Telecom 
Company JSC,SA
13 - AS22368   42626  0.7% 246.4 -- TELEBUCARAMANGA S.A. E.S.P.,CO
14 - AS381631516  0.5%  33.0 -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP,CO
15 - AS840231238  0.5%  25.4 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom,RU
16 - AS18051   30007  0.5% 535.8 -- JARDIKNAS-AS-AP Pustekkom,ID
17 - AS132220   27786  0.5% 524.3 -- JPRDIGITAL-IN JPR Digital Pvt. 
Ltd.,IN
18 - AS764327258  0.5%  86.5 -- VNPT-AS-VN Vietnam Posts and 
Telecommunications (VNPT),VN
19 - AS33659   27102  0.5% 934.6 -- CMCS - Comcast Cable 
Communications, Inc.,US
20 - AS24560   26680  0.5%  21.5 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti 
Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services,IN


TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix)
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS54169   76305  1.3%   25435.0 -- MGH-ION-1 - Marin General 
Hospital,US
 2 - AS22059  118918  2.0%   16988.3 -- APVIO-1 - Apvio, Inc.,US
 3 - AS33287   22472  0.4%   11236.0 -- COMCAST-33287 - Comcast Cable 
Communications, Inc.,US
 4 - AS3935889572  0.2%9572.0 -- MUBEA-FLO - Mubea,US
 5 - AS610399307  0.2%9307.0 -- ZMZ OAO ZMZ,RU
 6 - AS37515   14872  0.2%7436.0 -- iCONNECT,ZA
 7 - AS55350   26186  0.4%6546.5 -- VSCGT-HK Virtual Switching 
Consultancy Limited (C/O VXRoutes Ltd),HK
 8 - AS195025435  0.1%5435.0 -- CRANEWAREINSIGHT-AS - Craneware 
Insight, Inc.,US
 9 - AS32005   14462  0.2%3615.5 -- THE-CHURCH-PENSION-GROUP - 
CHURCH PENSION GROUP SERVICES CORPORATION,US
10 - AS2637302432  0.0%2432.0 -- TELECABLE SABANETA SRL,DO
11 - AS334409569  0.2%2392.2 -- WEBRULON-NETWORK - webRulon, 
LLC,US
12 - AS370963454  1.1%2350.1 -- NET-CITY-SA - City of San 
Antonio,US
13 - AS31357   12274  0.2%2045.7 -- TOMICA-AS Tomsk Information and 
Consulting Agency,RU
14 - AS23752  303258  5.1%1849.1 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal 
Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP
15 - AS210731712  0.0%1712.0 -- ZORANET-AS Zoranet 
Internetdiensten,NL
16 - AS1466 6747  0.1%1686.8 -- DNIC-AS-01466 - Headquarters, 
USAISC,US
17 - AS15835   11343  0.2%1620.4 -- MAP Moscow Network Access 
Point,RU
18 - AS380006408  0.1%1602.0 -- CRISIL-AS [CRISIL 
Limited.Autonomous System],IN
19 - AS476807834  0.1%1566.8 -- NHCS EOBO Limited,IE
20 - AS1979144421  0.1%1473.7 -- STOCKHO-AS Stockho Hosting 
SARL,FR


TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name
 1 - 202.70.88.0/21   150875  2.5%   AS23752 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal 
Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP
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Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP
 3 - 105.96.0.0/22 84979  1.4%   AS36947 -- ALGTEL-AS,DZ
 4 - 204.80.242.0/24   76299  1.2%   AS54169 -- MGH-ION-1 - Marin General 
Hospital,US
 5 - 64.34.125.0/2459532  1.0%   AS22059 -- APVIO-1 - Apvio, Inc.,US
 6 - 76.191.107.0/24   59381  1.0%   AS22059 -- APVIO-1 - Apvio, Inc.,US
 7 - 199.204.107.0/24  49538  0.8%   AS13338 -- HAYGROUP-ASN - HAY GROUP INC,US
 AS33287 -- COMCAST-33287 - Comcast Cable 
Communications, Inc.,US
 AS33659 -- CMCS - Comcast Cable 
Communications, Inc.,US
 8 - 103.4.244.0/2213178  0.2%   AS55350 -- VSCGT-HK Virtual Switching 
Consultancy Limited (C/O VXRoutes Ltd),HK
 9 - 175.100.164.0/22  12969  0.2%   AS55350 -- VSCGT-HK Virtual Switching 
Consultancy Limited (C/O VXRoutes 

eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread John Fraizer
Hello All,

eBay is looking for folks to join our Site Network Engineering team.  eBay
Site Network Engineering is responsible for the eBay SITE network from ToR
to Peering Edge.  You won't be bored.  You will be challenged.  You will
have fun!
This position is located in San Jose, California @ eBay HQ although
exception may be made for extremely well qualified candidates.


*Qualifications:*

   - 7+ years of experience in network design and implementation
   - 7+ years working at the highest level of technical escalation
   - Expert level multi-vendor experience in routing  switching with
   Arista, Cisco, Juniper, Nexus platforms
   - Expert level understanding of IPv4  IPv6.  Bonus points if you can
   tell me about IPv8. (The old guard will get that joke.)
   - Expert level BGP and OSPF
   - Understanding of multicast technologies such as PIM-SM and PIM-BiDir
   - Understanding of QoS and implementation strategies
   - Experience with L2 technologies such as MLAG and VPC
   - Experience with cloud architectures and network automation
   - Experience with SDN technologies such as VXLAN, NVGRE and Open vSwitch
   - Expert level troubleshooting skills
   - Functional knowledge of and comfort working in *nix environments
   - Ability to script in Bash, Perl, or other relevant languages. (Bonus
   for Python)
   - Excellent communications and documentation skills

Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a piece
of paper every time!
BSCS or other 4-year degree desired - may be substituted with relevant work
experience


Translation of the above:  Are you considered an expert by your industry
peers?  We know your family thinks you're a genius.  Do your peers in the
networking community agree?  Do you want work on the bleeding edge of
technology, playing with the biggest, baddest and bestest toys?  Are you a
team player who can also work alone providing creative solutions to complex
problems using your out of the box thinking?  Are you tired of being the
smartest guy in the room when you're at work?  Well then, I've got the
job you're looking for!  The above qualifications are the wish list.
That should give you a feel of whether or not you're qualified for this
position though.  You know your own skill set better than anyone else.

Just be advised: Please don't be a buzzword bandit on your CV.  If you
list a skill or experience, its fair game to ask you about these - in depth
- during your phone screen and any subsequent in-person interviews.

Interested and Qualified candidates, please forward your CVs to jfraizer at
ebay dot com.

eBay, Inc is an Equal Opportunity Employer

--
John Fraizer
MTS2 - eBay Site Network Engineering


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Jared Mauch

 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:
 
 Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a piece
 of paper every time!

Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is that
the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual
troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines “expert” are
different than the rest of the world).

- Jared

Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

 On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:
 
 Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a piece
 of paper every time!
 
 Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is that
 the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual
 troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines “expert” are
 different than the rest of the world).

Jared, don’t generalize.

True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not
start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting.

— 
CCIE #15929 RS/SP, CCDE #2012::17
(not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)

Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Scott Weeks


--- j...@op-sec.us wrote:
From: John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us

  Bonus points if you can
   tell me about IPv8. (The old guard will get that joke.)
  


Long live Jim!  U...Never mind...

:-)
scott


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread ryanL
we're allowed to recruit on nanog?...

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:19 PM John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:

 Hello All,

 eBay is looking for folks to join our Site Network Engineering team.  eBay
 Site Network Engineering is responsible for the eBay SITE network from ToR
 to Peering Edge.  You won't be bored.  You will be challenged.  You will
 have fun!
 This position is located in San Jose, California @ eBay HQ although
 exception may be made for extremely well qualified candidates.


 *Qualifications:*

- 7+ years of experience in network design and implementation
- 7+ years working at the highest level of technical escalation
- Expert level multi-vendor experience in routing  switching with
Arista, Cisco, Juniper, Nexus platforms
- Expert level understanding of IPv4  IPv6.  Bonus points if you can
tell me about IPv8. (The old guard will get that joke.)
- Expert level BGP and OSPF
- Understanding of multicast technologies such as PIM-SM and PIM-BiDir
- Understanding of QoS and implementation strategies
- Experience with L2 technologies such as MLAG and VPC
- Experience with cloud architectures and network automation
- Experience with SDN technologies such as VXLAN, NVGRE and Open vSwitch
- Expert level troubleshooting skills
- Functional knowledge of and comfort working in *nix environments
- Ability to script in Bash, Perl, or other relevant languages. (Bonus
for Python)
- Excellent communications and documentation skills

 Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a piece
 of paper every time!
 BSCS or other 4-year degree desired - may be substituted with relevant work
 experience


 Translation of the above:  Are you considered an expert by your industry
 peers?  We know your family thinks you're a genius.  Do your peers in the
 networking community agree?  Do you want work on the bleeding edge of
 technology, playing with the biggest, baddest and bestest toys?  Are you a
 team player who can also work alone providing creative solutions to complex
 problems using your out of the box thinking?  Are you tired of being the
 smartest guy in the room when you're at work?  Well then, I've got the
 job you're looking for!  The above qualifications are the wish list.
 That should give you a feel of whether or not you're qualified for this
 position though.  You know your own skill set better than anyone else.

 Just be advised: Please don't be a buzzword bandit on your CV.  If you
 list a skill or experience, its fair game to ask you about these - in depth
 - during your phone screen and any subsequent in-person interviews.

 Interested and Qualified candidates, please forward your CVs to jfraizer at
 ebay dot com.

 eBay, Inc is an Equal Opportunity Employer

 --
 John Fraizer
 MTS2 - eBay Site Network Engineering



Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Jon Lewis

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Scott Weeks wrote:




--- j...@op-sec.us wrote:
From: John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us

 Bonus points if you can
  tell me about IPv8. (The old guard will get that joke.)
 


Long live Jim!  U...Never mind...


Who?  Get off my stargate.  :)

:0
* ^From:.*(jfleming@anet\.com|ipv6nog@gmail\.com|*fleming@unety\.net)
/dev/null

--
 Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
 |  therefore you are
_ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread John Fraizer
Folks,

It's just a piece of paper in my opinion.  A person either knows their
stuff or they don't.  Less than 5min on a phone screen and I will know if
they bought their certification(s) or earned them.  Sadly, I've spoken to
far too many who give some validation to Jared's comment. I'm wondering how
many proctors have been paid off or if people are buying fake id's for
smart people and paying them to sit for the tests posing as them.

John Fraizer
--Sent from my Android phone.
Please excuse any typos.
On Jun 5, 2015 5:45 PM, Łukasz Bromirski luk...@bromirski.net wrote:


  On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
 
 
  On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:
 
  Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a
 piece
  of paper every time!
 
  Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is that
  the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual
  troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines “expert” are
  different than the rest of the world).

 Jared, don’t generalize.

 True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not
 start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
 didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting.

 —
 CCIE #15929 RS/SP, CCDE #2012::17
 (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Please use below mailing list for job posting

http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs

Mehmet 

 On Jun 5, 2015, at 19:13, John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 eBay is looking for folks to join our Site Network Engineering team.  eBay
 Site Network Engineering is responsible for the eBay SITE network from ToR
 to Peering Edge.  You won't be bored.  You will be challenged.  You will
 have fun!
 This position is located in San Jose, California @ eBay HQ although
 exception may be made for extremely well qualified candidates.
 
 
 *Qualifications:*
 
   - 7+ years of experience in network design and implementation
   - 7+ years working at the highest level of technical escalation
   - Expert level multi-vendor experience in routing  switching with
   Arista, Cisco, Juniper, Nexus platforms
   - Expert level understanding of IPv4  IPv6.  Bonus points if you can
   tell me about IPv8. (The old guard will get that joke.)
   - Expert level BGP and OSPF
   - Understanding of multicast technologies such as PIM-SM and PIM-BiDir
   - Understanding of QoS and implementation strategies
   - Experience with L2 technologies such as MLAG and VPC
   - Experience with cloud architectures and network automation
   - Experience with SDN technologies such as VXLAN, NVGRE and Open vSwitch
   - Expert level troubleshooting skills
   - Functional knowledge of and comfort working in *nix environments
   - Ability to script in Bash, Perl, or other relevant languages. (Bonus
   for Python)
   - Excellent communications and documentation skills
 
 Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a piece
 of paper every time!
 BSCS or other 4-year degree desired - may be substituted with relevant work
 experience
 
 
 Translation of the above:  Are you considered an expert by your industry
 peers?  We know your family thinks you're a genius.  Do your peers in the
 networking community agree?  Do you want work on the bleeding edge of
 technology, playing with the biggest, baddest and bestest toys?  Are you a
 team player who can also work alone providing creative solutions to complex
 problems using your out of the box thinking?  Are you tired of being the
 smartest guy in the room when you're at work?  Well then, I've got the
 job you're looking for!  The above qualifications are the wish list.
 That should give you a feel of whether or not you're qualified for this
 position though.  You know your own skill set better than anyone else.
 
 Just be advised: Please don't be a buzzword bandit on your CV.  If you
 list a skill or experience, its fair game to ask you about these - in depth
 - during your phone screen and any subsequent in-person interviews.
 
 Interested and Qualified candidates, please forward your CVs to jfraizer at
 ebay dot com.
 
 eBay, Inc is an Equal Opportunity Employer
 
 --
 John Fraizer
 MTS2 - eBay Site Network Engineering


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread John Fraizer
It's been over a decade since I was an active participant on NANOG.  I
didn't know that the NANOG-JOBS list existed. Sometimes it's easier to ask
for forgiveness than permission though. I guess it's a good thing Susan H.
isn't here to throw me in NANOG jail, huh?

John Fraizer
--Sent from my Android phone.
Please excuse any typos.
On Jun 5, 2015 6:23 PM, ryanL ryan.lan...@gmail.com wrote:

 we're allowed to recruit on nanog?...

 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:19 PM John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:

 Hello All,

 eBay is looking for folks to join our Site Network Engineering team.  eBay
 Site Network Engineering is responsible for the eBay SITE network from ToR
 to Peering Edge.  You won't be bored.  You will be challenged.  You will
 have fun!
 This position is located in San Jose, California @ eBay HQ although
 exception may be made for extremely well qualified candidates.


 *Qualifications:*

- 7+ years of experience in network design and implementation
- 7+ years working at the highest level of technical escalation
- Expert level multi-vendor experience in routing  switching with
Arista, Cisco, Juniper, Nexus platforms
- Expert level understanding of IPv4  IPv6.  Bonus points if you can
tell me about IPv8. (The old guard will get that joke.)
- Expert level BGP and OSPF
- Understanding of multicast technologies such as PIM-SM and PIM-BiDir
- Understanding of QoS and implementation strategies
- Experience with L2 technologies such as MLAG and VPC
- Experience with cloud architectures and network automation
- Experience with SDN technologies such as VXLAN, NVGRE and Open
 vSwitch
- Expert level troubleshooting skills
- Functional knowledge of and comfort working in *nix environments
- Ability to script in Bash, Perl, or other relevant languages. (Bonus
for Python)
- Excellent communications and documentation skills

 Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a piece
 of paper every time!
 BSCS or other 4-year degree desired - may be substituted with relevant
 work
 experience


 Translation of the above:  Are you considered an expert by your industry
 peers?  We know your family thinks you're a genius.  Do your peers in the
 networking community agree?  Do you want work on the bleeding edge of
 technology, playing with the biggest, baddest and bestest toys?  Are you a
 team player who can also work alone providing creative solutions to
 complex
 problems using your out of the box thinking?  Are you tired of being the
 smartest guy in the room when you're at work?  Well then, I've got the
 job you're looking for!  The above qualifications are the wish list.
 That should give you a feel of whether or not you're qualified for this
 position though.  You know your own skill set better than anyone else.

 Just be advised: Please don't be a buzzword bandit on your CV.  If you
 list a skill or experience, its fair game to ask you about these - in
 depth
 - during your phone screen and any subsequent in-person interviews.

 Interested and Qualified candidates, please forward your CVs to jfraizer
 at
 ebay dot com.

 eBay, Inc is an Equal Opportunity Employer

 --
 John Fraizer
 MTS2 - eBay Site Network Engineering




Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Stephen Satchell

On 06/05/2015 06:38 PM, Mike Hale wrote:

We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.


I didn't google traceroute.  Didn't need to.  Instead, I drew on the 
knowledge I gained when Clifford and I wrote _Linux IP Stacks 
Commentary_.  Unfortunately, the Steven's books are not required reading 
in CCIE prep.




Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread jim deleskie
Based on the number of certified people I've interviewed over the last
20yr, my default view lines up with Jared's 100%

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com
wrote:

 We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.
 On Jun 5, 2015 6:28 PM, na...@cdl.asgaard.org wrote:

  On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, Łukasz Bromirski wrote:
 
   On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
 
 
   On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:
 
  Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a
  piece
  of paper every time!
 
 
  Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is
 that
  the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual
  troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines “expert” are
  different than the rest of the world).
 
 
  Jared, don’t generalize.
 
  True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not
  start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
  didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting.
 
 
  't
 
  We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't click no matter how
  much we tried to train on the architecture.  Eventually in one backbone
  event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router
  because traceroute worked.  When it was pointed out that the potential
  fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look.  We
  then asked him to explain how traceroute worked.  He spectacularly
 failed.
 
  It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question.  What was boggling was
 the
  number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's mechanics.
 
  My test, as crass as it is.  If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I am
  pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience.  If it's
 a
  footnote somewhere, that's ok.
 
  Christopher
 
 
 
  —
  CCIE #15929 RS/SP, CCDE #2012::17
  (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)
 
 
 
  --
  李柯睿
  Avt tace, avt loqvere meliora silentio
  Check my PGP key here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.asc
  Current vCard here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.vcf
  keybase: https://keybase.io/liljenstolpe
 



Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
'pathping' . learned something new today... 
Did not know such a command existed in windows..

Been working with computers for over 30 years, while I don't care as to what it 
says about how much I know, but it sure reminds me that that their is always 
something more that one can learn !


Thank You.

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
 From: James Laszko jam...@mythostech.com
 To: Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com
 Cc: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org
 Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 9:57:38 PM
 Subject: Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...
 
 I asked one of my guys to tracert in windows for something and he executed
 pathping.  I have never seen that in 25 years  Go figure!
 
 
 James Laszko
 Mythos Technology Inc
 jam...@mythostech.com
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jun 5, 2015, at 18:40, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.
  On Jun 5, 2015 6:28 PM, na...@cdl.asgaard.org wrote:
  
  On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, Łukasz Bromirski wrote:
  
  On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
  
  
  On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:
  
  Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a
  piece
  of paper every time!
  
  Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is that
  the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual
  troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines “expert” are
  different than the rest of the world).
  
  Jared, don’t generalize.
  
  True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not
  start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
  didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting.
  
  't
  
  We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't click no matter how
  much we tried to train on the architecture.  Eventually in one backbone
  event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router
  because traceroute worked.  When it was pointed out that the potential
  fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look.  We
  then asked him to explain how traceroute worked.  He spectacularly failed.
  
  It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question.  What was boggling was the
  number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's mechanics.
  
  My test, as crass as it is.  If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I am
  pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience.  If it's a
  footnote somewhere, that's ok.
  
 Christopher
  
  
  
  —
  CCIE #15929 RS/SP, CCDE #2012::17
  (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)
  
  
  --
  李柯睿
  Avt tace, avt loqvere meliora silentio
  Check my PGP key here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.asc
  Current vCard here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.vcf
  keybase: https://keybase.io/liljenstolpe
  
 


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread nanog

On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, Łukasz Bromirski wrote:


On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:



On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:

Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a 
piece

of paper every time!


Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is 
that
the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of 
actual
troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines 
“expert” are

different than the rest of the world).


Jared, don’t generalize.

True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s 
not

start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting.


't

We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't click no matter how 
much we tried to train on the architecture.  Eventually in one backbone 
event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router 
because traceroute worked.  When it was pointed out that the potential 
fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look.  We 
then asked him to explain how traceroute worked.  He spectacularly 
failed.


It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question.  What was boggling was 
the number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's 
mechanics.


My test, as crass as it is.  If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I am 
pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience.  If it's 
a footnote somewhere, that's ok.


Christopher




—
CCIE #15929 RS/SP, CCDE #2012::17
(not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)



--
李柯睿
Avt tace, avt loqvere meliora silentio
Check my PGP key here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.asc
Current vCard here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.vcf
keybase: https://keybase.io/liljenstolpe


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread manning
whois traceroute  …


manning


On 5June2015Friday, at 18:38, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com wrote:

 We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.
 
 



interviewing [was] Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Scott Weeks


-
It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question.  What 
was boggling was the number of *IE's that failed trying 
to explain traceroute's mechanics.


One thing I have done in the past is encourage the person
to succeed at the interview, rather than see how they fail.
I do this because some folks don't interview well, but they
really know their stuff or have other attributes that make
them desirable, such as a great work ethic and a desire to 
learn.  One way to do this is find out how they'd go about
solving a problem, rather than what find out what they've 
memorized.

:: We need a pool on what percentage of readers just 
:: googled traceroute.

Exactly.  I've read ras' paper several times, but I don't
memorize it.  If I need to look something about it up for 
some reason, I know where to go:
https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/presentations/Sunday/RAS_Traceroute_N47_Sun.pdf

Ask me in an interview when I'm nervous and I stumble like
a nerd asking a girl out on a date.  Say something a little
silly then try to recover only to say something more dumb
finally trying to recover from both only to say something 
stupid and finally throwing up my hands in disgust knowing
I'm not going to get the date/job.  :-) This happened to me 
around 6-8 months ago.

scott


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread James Laszko
I asked one of my guys to tracert in windows for something and he executed 
pathping.  I have never seen that in 25 years  Go figure!


James Laszko
Mythos Technology Inc
jam...@mythostech.com

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 5, 2015, at 18:40, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.
 On Jun 5, 2015 6:28 PM, na...@cdl.asgaard.org wrote:
 
 On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, Łukasz Bromirski wrote:
 
 On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer j...@op-sec.us wrote:
 
 Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a
 piece
 of paper every time!
 
 Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is that
 the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual
 troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines “expert” are
 different than the rest of the world).
 
 Jared, don’t generalize.
 
 True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not
 start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
 didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting.
 
 't
 
 We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't click no matter how
 much we tried to train on the architecture.  Eventually in one backbone
 event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router
 because traceroute worked.  When it was pointed out that the potential
 fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look.  We
 then asked him to explain how traceroute worked.  He spectacularly failed.
 
 It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question.  What was boggling was the
 number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's mechanics.
 
 My test, as crass as it is.  If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I am
 pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience.  If it's a
 footnote somewhere, that's ok.
 
Christopher
 
 
 
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 CCIE #15929 RS/SP, CCDE #2012::17
 (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)
 
 
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