Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
https://github.com/morrowc/yt_troubleshooting

might even be useful... I have not run it in a bit so it might die horribly :(
but it might also tell you something useful :)

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Phil Rosenthal p...@isprime.com wrote:

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 geolocation is hard :(

 If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
 curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping

 You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any 
 difference.

 Best Regards,
 -Phil


Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND

2015-06-25 Thread Tore Anderson
* Stefan Schlesinger s...@ono.at

  On 25 Jun 2015, at 03:14, Damian Menscher via NANOG nanog@nanog.org wrote:
  
  http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/time-technology-and-leaping-seconds.html
  comes dangerously close to your modest proposal.
 
 I wonder why Google hasn't published the patch yet. Leap smear sounds
 like the sane way to do leap seconds, and it would't break software
 at all, because time adjustments in the sub-second area are proven to
 work quite well. 

It's implemented in chronyd versions 2.0 and up, for what it's worth.
The required config directive is leapsecmode slew.

There's a nice blog post explaining how this feature, as well as some
other approaches on how to deal with the leap second, work here:

http://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/06/01/five-different-ways-handle-leap-seconds-ntp/

Tore


Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Marco Davids mdav...@forfun.net wrote:

 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?

geolocation is hard :(


Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Am 25.06.2015 um 15:32 schrieb Christopher Morrow:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Marco Davids mdav...@forfun.net wrote:

 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?
 
 geolocation is hard :(

geolocation is a broken concept anyway :-(

Similar to like being allowed by law to only offer some downloads of
series/movies during the night (starting 10pm afaik) for
youth-protection (here in Germany) ... come on ...


Kind regards,
  sn


Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Seth Mos
Marco Davids schreef op 25-6-2015 om 14:33:
 Hi,
 
 Would anyone from Google care to explain to me off-list why certain
 Youtube-content is blocked in the Netherlands while using IPv6 when it
 is working fine via IPv4?
 
 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?
 
 The IPv6-address is within 2a02:a47f:e000::/36
 (actually, it is: 2a02:a444:443b:0::::)

To add to Marco,

The entire 2a02:a400::/25 prefix is used by KPN Netherlands for consumer
and small business DSL internet.

http://bgp.he.net/ip/2A02:A400:C17F:0::

Kind regards,

Seth


Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Marco Davids
Hi,

Would anyone from Google care to explain to me off-list why certain
Youtube-content is blocked in the Netherlands while using IPv6 when it
is working fine via IPv4?

Geolocation imperfections perhaps?

The IPv6-address is within 2a02:a47f:e000::/36
(actually, it is: 2a02:a444:443b:0::::)

Thank you.


-- 
Marco



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Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND

2015-06-25 Thread Tony Finch
Damian Menscher via NANOG nanog@nanog.org wrote:

 http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/time-technology-and-leaping-seconds.html
 comes dangerously close to your modest proposal.

Also
http://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/06/01/five-different-ways-handle-leap-seconds-ntp/

Tony.
-- 
f.anthony.n.finch  d...@dotat.at  http://dotat.at/
Southwest Viking: Northwesterly 3 or 4, veering southeasterly 4 or 5 later.
Slight or moderate. Fair. Good.


Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

2015-06-25 Thread John Musbach
Hello,

I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my
astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon
datacenter near my house that has colocation:

http://imgur.com/a/PdGno

It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the
building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried
walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation
but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but
support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get
some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both
have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter
walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:

2u space
4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server)
2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs

I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but
that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what
we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you
please reply offlist?

Thanks,

John M


Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Phil Rosenthal

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 geolocation is hard :(

If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping

You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any difference.

Best Regards,
-Phil

Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Seth Mos

 Op 25 jun. 2015, om 16:44 heeft Max Tulyev max...@netassist.ua het volgende 
 geschreven:
 
 Hi,
 
 +1.
 
 Our 2a01:d0::/32 is floating by Google's geo all around the world, it
 was Iran, now it is Russia... and I can't do anything with it, and have
 no human contact in Google for complaint.

That sounds like a software problem where it does not match anything in the 
database and then proceeds to return the last known value of the variable. :/

That’s even worse then saying “We don’t know”.

Regards,

Seth
 
 On 25.06.15 15:33, Marco Davids wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Would anyone from Google care to explain to me off-list why certain
 Youtube-content is blocked in the Netherlands while using IPv6 when it
 is working fine via IPv4?
 
 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?
 
 The IPv6-address is within 2a02:a47f:e000::/36
 (actually, it is: 2a02:a444:443b:0::::)
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 



Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Max Tulyev
Hi,

+1.

Our 2a01:d0::/32 is floating by Google's geo all around the world, it
was Iran, now it is Russia... and I can't do anything with it, and have
no human contact in Google for complaint.

On 25.06.15 15:33, Marco Davids wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Would anyone from Google care to explain to me off-list why certain
 Youtube-content is blocked in the Netherlands while using IPv6 when it
 is working fine via IPv4?
 
 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?
 
 The IPv6-address is within 2a02:a47f:e000::/36
 (actually, it is: 2a02:a444:443b:0::::)
 
 Thank you.
 
 



Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Jared Mauch

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Phil Rosenthal p...@isprime.com wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 geolocation is hard :(
 
 If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
 curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
 
 You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any 
 difference.


And run it a few times, because it may think your IP in asia is in Amsterdam, 
etc..

[jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
203.105.73.114 = ams09x03 : superx_isp_number: 8 (203.105.64.0/20) [s]
[jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
203.105.73.114 = sjc07x04 : superx_isp_number: 1 (203.105.64.0/20) [u]

- Jared

Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Jared Mauch

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Scott Whyte swh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On 6/25/15 07:49, Jared Mauch wrote:
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Phil Rosenthal p...@isprime.com wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 geolocation is hard :(
 
 If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
 curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
 
 You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any 
 difference.
 
 
 And run it a few times, because it may think your IP in asia is in 
 Amsterdam, etc..
 
 [jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
 203.105.73.114 = ams09x03 : superx_isp_number: 8 (203.105.64.0/20) [s]
 [jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
 203.105.73.114 = sjc07x04 : superx_isp_number: 1 (203.105.64.0/20) [u]
 
 Maybe its actually telling you where youtube is serving videos from for that 
 IP address, in realtime, based on a large number of variables only one of 
 which is where on the Earth that IP might be located.

That might be possible, but sending traffic to Europe vs another site smells
like some other issue.

It’s also interesting to look at the internalized CIDR it’s matching against.

Take puck as an example.

puck:~$ curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping -4
204.42.254.5 = ord31x04 : superx_isp_number: 1 (204.42.224.0/19) [u]
puck:~$ curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping -6
2001:418:3f4::5 = sjc07s17 (2001:418:200::/39) [u]

Many interesting results as a consequence.

- jared

Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Scott Whyte



On 6/25/15 07:49, Jared Mauch wrote:



On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Phil Rosenthal p...@isprime.com wrote:



On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:

geolocation is hard :(


If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping

You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any difference.



And run it a few times, because it may think your IP in asia is in Amsterdam, 
etc..

[jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
203.105.73.114 = ams09x03 : superx_isp_number: 8 (203.105.64.0/20) [s]
[jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
203.105.73.114 = sjc07x04 : superx_isp_number: 1 (203.105.64.0/20) [u]


Maybe its actually telling you where youtube is serving videos from for 
that IP address, in realtime, based on a large number of variables only 
one of which is where on the Earth that IP might be located.




- Jared



Re: Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

2015-06-25 Thread Lyle Giese

It looks more like a standard telco central office, not a data center.

Lyle

On 06/24/15 13:46, John Musbach wrote:

Hello,

I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my
astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon
datacenter near my house that has colocation:

http://imgur.com/a/PdGno

It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the
building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried
walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation
but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but
support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get
some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both
have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter
walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:

2u space
4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server)
2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs

I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but
that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what
we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you
please reply offlist?

Thanks,

John M




Re: Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

2015-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my
 astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon
 datacenter near my house that has colocation:

 how / why did you think this has colocation?


https://www22.verizon.com/wholesale/attachments/space-exhaust/Web_UpdateSouth.pdf

if you search for somers point in there this looks like a Central
office which might offer future physical (future from 2012)
colocation, but I bet you'd have to be a CLEC to take advantage of
this...


 http://imgur.com/a/PdGno

 It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the
 building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried
 walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation
 but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but
 support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get
 some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both
 have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter
 walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:

 2u space
 4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server)
 2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs

 I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but
 that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what
 we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you
 please reply offlist?

 Thanks,

 John M


Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND

2015-06-25 Thread Stefan Schlesinger
 On 25 Jun 2015, at 03:14, Damian Menscher via NANOG nanog@nanog.org wrote:
 
 http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/time-technology-and-leaping-seconds.html
 comes dangerously close to your modest proposal.
 
 Damian

I wonder why Google hasn't published the patch yet. Leap smear sounds like the 
sane way to do leap seconds, and it would't break software at all, because time 
adjustments in the sub-second area are proven to work quite well. 

Btw. there seem to be a couple of public Google timeservers, I wonder whether 
could just sync time from there to get leap smearing. 

time[1-4].google.com

Also this update looks like it would smoothen the process:

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2015-1159.html
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1214752

-Stefan

Re: Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

2015-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my
 astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon
 datacenter near my house that has colocation:

how / why did you think this has colocation?


 http://imgur.com/a/PdGno

 It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the
 building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried
 walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation
 but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but
 support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get
 some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both
 have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter
 walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:

 2u space
 4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server)
 2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs

 I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but
 that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what
 we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you
 please reply offlist?

 Thanks,

 John M


Re: Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

2015-06-25 Thread Rafael Possamai
Be prepared to drop a lot of money for colocation with Verizon. Also,
quoting process is rather long and you will have to sign a NDA most likely,
which just makes it even more fun. For the size of your project I'd pick a
provider that focuses on colocation for small and medium businesses and is
easier to work with.



On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my
 astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon
 datacenter near my house that has colocation:

 http://imgur.com/a/PdGno

 It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the
 building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried
 walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation
 but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but
 support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get
 some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both
 have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter
 walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:

 2u space
 4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server)
 2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs

 I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but
 that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what
 we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you
 please reply offlist?

 Thanks,

 John M



Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND

2015-06-25 Thread Damian Menscher via NANOG
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Stefan Schlesinger s...@ono.at wrote:

  On 25 Jun 2015, at 03:14, Damian Menscher via NANOG nanog@nanog.org
 wrote:
 
 
 http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/time-technology-and-leaping-seconds.html
  comes dangerously close to your modest proposal.

 I wonder why Google hasn't published the patch yet. Leap smear sounds like
 the sane way to do leap seconds, and it would't break software at all,
 because time adjustments in the sub-second area are proven to work quite
 well.

 Btw. there seem to be a couple of public Google timeservers, I wonder
 whether could just sync time from there to get leap smearing.


I'd be cautious about that approach.  I don't think they've been advertised
for public use, so they could go away without notice.  Also, definitely
don't mix them with normal servers, as that would just confuse your clocks
(which might smear *and* leap or something equally insane).

Damian