RE: NTT Charles

2016-02-14 Thread John van Oppen 
That is awesome!

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Dorian Kim
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 3:25 AM
To: Jared Geiger 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NTT Charles

AS2914 has a tradition of bidding farewell to technical team members who
move on via router dns record . Charles was one of our NOC engineers.

IIRC, we stole this idea from the vBNS team back in the 90s.

-dorian


> On Feb 13, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Jared Geiger  wrote:
> 
> So who is this Charles fellow in the NTT reverse DNS?
> 
> ge-102-0-0-0.happy-trails-Charles.r05.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> 
> ae-10.happy-trails-Charles.r22.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> 
> ae-5.happy-trails-Charles.r25.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> 
> ae-2.happy-trails-Charles.r08.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> 
> ae-7.happy-trails-Charles.r00.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

Re: NTT Charles

2016-02-14 Thread Tom Hill 
On 13/02/16 20:12, Jared Geiger wrote:
> ge-102-0-0-0.happy-trails-Charles.r05.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

*pictures Charles falling off of a building in slow motion*


-- 
Tom

Re: Shared cabinet "security"

2016-02-14 Thread chris 
ive seen a bunch of places that use these for shared colo and they seem to
work pretty well

https://www.racksolutions.com/colocation-cabinet.html

chris

On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Chris Woodfield 
wrote:

> I've seen colos sell half-racks where both the top and bottoms of the
> racks have their own cabinet doors. It's not a common thing though.
>
> -C
>
> > On Feb 12, 2016, at 18:58, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> >
> > There are more options when you're not just using someone else's
> datacenter.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> > Midwest-IX
> > http://www.midwest-ix.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >
> > From: "Bevan Slattery" 
> > To: "Mike Hammett" 
> > Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" 
> > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 4:44:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security"
> >
> > In a past life we worked with our supplier to create physically separate
> sub-enclosures.1/2 and 1/3. Able to build in a separate and secure cable
> path for interconnects to the meet-me-room and connection to power supplies.
> >
> > Can be done and I think there are now rack suppliers that do this as
> standard. Been out of DC space for a few years now.
> >
> > [b]
> >
> >> On 13 Feb 2016, at 6:58 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> That moment when you hit send and remember a couple things…
> >>
> >> Of course labeling of the cables.
> >>
> >> Maybe colored wire loom for fiber and DACs in the vertical spaces to go
> along with the previously mentioned color scheme?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>
> >> Midwest-IX
> >> http://www.midwest-ix.com
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>
> >> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> >> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" 
> >> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 2:53:17 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security"
> >>
> >>
> >> I am finding a bunch of covers for the front. I do wish they stuck out
> more than an inch (like two).
> >>
> http://www.middleatlantic.com/~/media/middleatlantic/documents/techdocs/s_sf%20series%20security%20covers_96-035/96_035s_sf.ashx
> >>
> >> It looks like these guys stick out 1.5”. That may be workable…
> http://www.lowellmfg.com/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/filemanager/files/1717-SSCV.pdf
> >>
> >> I guess those covers are really only useful for servers. That really
> wouldn’t work with a switch\router. Switches and routers are going to be
> the bulk of what we’re dealing with.
> >>
> >> I am finding locking power cables, but that seems to be specific to the
> PDU you’re using as it requires the other half of the lock on the PDU.
> >>
> >> I did come across colored power cords. I wonder with some enforced
> cable management, colored power cables, etc. we would have “good enough”?
> You get some 1U or 2U cable organizers, require cables to be secured to the
> management, vertical cables in shared spaces are bound together by
> customer, color of Velcro matches color of the power cord? Blue customer,
> green customer, red customer, etc. Could do the cat6 patch cables that way
> too, but that gets lost when moving to glass or DACs.
> >>
> >> I thought about a web cam that would record anyone coming into the
> cabinet, but Equinix doesn’t really allow pictures in their facilities, so
> that’s not going to fly. Door contacts should be helpful for an audit log
> of at least when the doors were opened or closed.
> >>
> >> Financial penalty from the violator to the victim if there’s an uh oh?
> >>
> >> I’m not trying to save someone from themselves. I’m not trying to lock
> the whole thing down. Just trying to prevent mistakes in a shared space.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>
> >> Midwest-IX
> >> http://www.midwest-ix.com
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>
> >> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> >> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:59:08 AM
> >> Subject: Shared cabinet "security"
> >>
> >> I say "security" because I know that in a shared space, nothing is
> completely secure. I also know that with enough intent, someone will
> accomplish whatever they set out to do regarding breaking something of
> someone else's. My concern is mainly towards mitigation of accidents. This
> could even apply to a certain degree to things within your own space and
> your own careless techs
> >>
> >> If you have multiple entities in a shared space, how can you mitigate
> the chances of someone doing something (assuming accidentally) to disrupt
> your operations? I'm thinking accidentally unplug the wrong power cord,
> patch cord, etc. Accidentally power off or

Re: Shared cabinet "security"

2016-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett 
*nods* I've seen half and third cabinet designs employed in a couple 
datacenters. I've seen product sheets for quarter and sixth rack (with the 
sixth introduced in this thread). 

To me, those seem like ideal cabinets to put in MMRs, which traditionally have 
full cabinets. By count of networks, there are far more networks that employ 
routers smaller than say 4U than there are ones that use larger than say 12U. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Chris Woodfield"  
To: "Mike Hammett"  
Cc: "Bevan Slattery" , "North American Network 
Operators' Group"  
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:33:04 PM 
Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security" 

I've seen colos sell half-racks where both the top and bottoms of the racks 
have their own cabinet doors. It's not a common thing though. 

-C 

> On Feb 12, 2016, at 18:58, Mike Hammett  wrote: 
> 
> There are more options when you're not just using someone else's datacenter. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> Midwest-IX 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> 
> From: "Bevan Slattery"  
> To: "Mike Hammett"  
> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group"  
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 4:44:34 PM 
> Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security" 
> 
> In a past life we worked with our supplier to create physically separate 
> sub-enclosures.1/2 and 1/3. Able to build in a separate and secure cable path 
> for interconnects to the meet-me-room and connection to power supplies. 
> 
> Can be done and I think there are now rack suppliers that do this as 
> standard. Been out of DC space for a few years now. 
> 
> [b] 
> 
>> On 13 Feb 2016, at 6:58 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> That moment when you hit send and remember a couple things… 
>> 
>> Of course labeling of the cables. 
>> 
>> Maybe colored wire loom for fiber and DACs in the vertical spaces to go 
>> along with the previously mentioned color scheme? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>> 
>> Midwest-IX 
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> 
>> From: "Mike Hammett"  
>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group"  
>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 2:53:17 PM 
>> Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security" 
>> 
>> 
>> I am finding a bunch of covers for the front. I do wish they stuck out more 
>> than an inch (like two). 
>> http://www.middleatlantic.com/~/media/middleatlantic/documents/techdocs/s_sf%20series%20security%20covers_96-035/96_035s_sf.ashx
>>  
>> 
>> It looks like these guys stick out 1.5”. That may be workable… 
>> http://www.lowellmfg.com/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/filemanager/files/1717-SSCV.pdf
>>  
>> 
>> I guess those covers are really only useful for servers. That really 
>> wouldn’t work with a switch\router. Switches and routers are going to be the 
>> bulk of what we’re dealing with. 
>> 
>> I am finding locking power cables, but that seems to be specific to the PDU 
>> you’re using as it requires the other half of the lock on the PDU. 
>> 
>> I did come across colored power cords. I wonder with some enforced cable 
>> management, colored power cables, etc. we would have “good enough”? You get 
>> some 1U or 2U cable organizers, require cables to be secured to the 
>> management, vertical cables in shared spaces are bound together by customer, 
>> color of Velcro matches color of the power cord? Blue customer, green 
>> customer, red customer, etc. Could do the cat6 patch cables that way too, 
>> but that gets lost when moving to glass or DACs. 
>> 
>> I thought about a web cam that would record anyone coming into the cabinet, 
>> but Equinix doesn’t really allow pictures in their facilities, so that’s not 
>> going to fly. Door contacts should be helpful for an audit log of at least 
>> when the doors were opened or closed. 
>> 
>> Financial penalty from the violator to the victim if there’s an uh oh? 
>> 
>> I’m not trying to save someone from themselves. I’m not trying to lock the 
>> whole thing down. Just trying to prevent mistakes in a shared space. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>> 
>> Midwest-IX 
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> 
>> From: "Mike Hammett"  
>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group"  
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:59:08 AM 
>> Subject: Shared cabinet "security" 
>> 
>> I say "security" because I know that in a shared space, nothing is 
>> completely secure. I also know that

Re: NTT Charles

2016-02-14 Thread Dorian Kim 
AS2914 has a tradition of bidding farewell to technical team members who
move on via router dns record . Charles was one of our NOC engineers.

IIRC, we stole this idea from the vBNS team back in the 90s.

-dorian


> On Feb 13, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Jared Geiger  wrote:
> 
> So who is this Charles fellow in the NTT reverse DNS?
> 
> ge-102-0-0-0.happy-trails-Charles.r05.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> 
> ae-10.happy-trails-Charles.r22.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> 
> ae-5.happy-trails-Charles.r25.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> 
> ae-2.happy-trails-Charles.r08.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
> 
> ae-7.happy-trails-Charles.r00.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net



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