Re: Yahoo Geo Location

[Matthew Petach]

Hi hi,

Sorry, a bit behind in my email, apologies for that.

Ping me the /23 in private email and I'll see what we
can do about it.

Thanks!

Matt


On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Mike Callagy  wrote:
> Does anyone know who Yahoo uses for geo location?  I've got a /23 that has
> moved and I'm unable to find anything definitive regarding Yahoo.  I'm
> already working with Maxmind and Google but Yahoo is the outlier.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike.
>

RE: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Erik Sundberg]

Guys thanks for the feedback and direction.

Some follow up to some of the questions\comments

-MPLS support is preferreded.
-Uplinks to the core would be LACP Bundles at Nx10G. The majority of the 
traffic on the customer facing 10G ENNI's will be 10-100M EVC's. We would 
configure 10G Port with 2G CIR on this device, just not full 10G UNI Ports they 
would be put on a different device.
-MEF Required

-Erik


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Gould [mailto:aar...@gvtc.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 5:41 PM
To: Erik Sundberg; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

Hi Eric, A year or 2 ago, I did a good bit of work looking at various 
MPLS-capable-PE boxes as I was looking to replace the investment of Cisco 
ME3600's that couldn't keep up the pace of our FTTH 10 gig link expansions... 
that ME3600 only had (2) 10 gig ports.

Several links below are just a quick search I did on google to find some of 
this topics/discussions from the community.

https://www.juniper.net/assets/kr/kr/local/pdf/case-studies/3520578-en.pdf

https://lists.gt.net/nsp/juniper/54965

https://www.mail-archive.com/juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net/msg23974.html

https://marc.info/?l=cisco-nsp=148839385119158=3

https://marc.info/?a=13337206476=1=3

https://marc.info/?a=14883916473=1=3

https://lists.gt.net/nsp/juniper/58182

https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/juniper-nsp/2015-October/031353.html

https://lists.gt.net/nsp/juniper/58241


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+aaron1=gvtc@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Erik 
Sundberg
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 4:37 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

Hey Nanog,

Looking for a new metroE Edge switch that has more that 10x 10G ports. I am 
having a hard time finding anything worthwhile without buying a full blown 
ASR9K Chassis or another vendor's chassis.

Requirements
MEF compliant
1-2U small foot print
10G Ports will be used for ENNI's and UNI Ports Prefer MPLS support for L2VPN's 
(EoMPLS and VPLS) QOS per Sub interface\vlan on a ENNI Cost effect 10G Ports 
100G Not required


Looking at the
ASR920's - Great box for 1G but not enough 10G Ports Only 4
NCS5001/NCS5501 - New\unproven\probably buggy, Lacking some features & QOS 
issues :/
ASR900 - Looks good, but was hoping for a smaller foot print. If I remember 
right the 8x10G Cards can't go in every slot.

Any other platforms I should be looking at?

Ciena, Brocade, Juniper?



Thanks in advance!

-Erik



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RE: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Aaron Gould]

Pretty sure I looked at the ciena 51xx and I found that it does not have
mpls in it... pretty sure Erik needs mpls...

-Aaron

RE: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Aaron Gould]

I'm pretty sure that the Juniper QFX5100 and the Juniper ACX5048 are some box 
with different Junos and features allowed/disallowed...somehow. (lookup 
pictures on google and juniper.net... pretty sure identical box)

As I recall, the QFX5100 has more data-center-type things like virtual 
chass/mc-lag and less MPLS-edge-agg...
As I recall (actually know from deploying 25 of them now), the ACX5048 has more 
MPLS-edge-agg and less data-center-type things like virtual chass/mc-lag 

-Aaron

RE: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Aaron Gould]

Yeah, I settled on the ACX5048 too.  I've since replaced about (25) Cisco 
ME3600's with ACX5048's.  I'm doing MPLS L2VPN's and L3VPN's on the ACX5048.  
It's pretty nice and stable.

-Aaron

RE: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Aaron Gould]

Hi Eric, A year or 2 ago, I did a good bit of work looking at various
MPLS-capable-PE boxes as I was looking to replace the investment of Cisco
ME3600's that couldn't keep up the pace of our FTTH 10 gig link
expansions... that ME3600 only had (2) 10 gig ports.

Several links below are just a quick search I did on google to find some of
this topics/discussions from the community.

https://www.juniper.net/assets/kr/kr/local/pdf/case-studies/3520578-en.pdf  

https://lists.gt.net/nsp/juniper/54965  

https://www.mail-archive.com/juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net/msg23974.html  

https://marc.info/?l=cisco-nsp=148839385119158=3  

https://marc.info/?a=13337206476=1=3  

https://marc.info/?a=14883916473=1=3  

https://lists.gt.net/nsp/juniper/58182   
  
https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/juniper-nsp/2015-October/031353.html 

https://lists.gt.net/nsp/juniper/58241


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+aaron1=gvtc@nanog.org] On Behalf Of
Erik Sundberg
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 4:37 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch 

Hey Nanog,

Looking for a new metroE Edge switch that has more that 10x 10G ports. I am
having a hard time finding anything worthwhile without buying a full blown
ASR9K Chassis or another vendor's chassis.

Requirements
MEF compliant
1-2U small foot print
10G Ports will be used for ENNI's and UNI Ports Prefer MPLS support for
L2VPN's (EoMPLS and VPLS) QOS per Sub interface\vlan on a ENNI Cost effect
10G Ports 100G Not required


Looking at the
ASR920's - Great box for 1G but not enough 10G Ports Only 4
NCS5001/NCS5501 - New\unproven\probably buggy, Lacking some features & QOS
issues :/
ASR900 - Looks good, but was hoping for a smaller foot print. If I remember
right the 8x10G Cards can't go in every slot.

Any other platforms I should be looking at?

Ciena, Brocade, Juniper?



Thanks in advance!

-Erik



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Re: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Robert Jacobs]

Ciena 5160.  24 port sfp+.  1u  D.C. Or ac dual PSU. MEF certified. Price 
points good

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From: NANOG  on behalf of Richard Holbo 

Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 5:09:55 PM
To: Erik Sundberg
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

I have used several of these Huawei S6700 switches with no issues, fast
easy to configure and support pretty much everything you mention.

http://e.huawei.com/en/marketing-material/global/products/enterprise_network/switches/s6700/HUAWEI%20S6700%20Series%2010%20GE%20Switch%20Data%20Sheet

/rh

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Erik Sundberg 
wrote:

> Hey Nanog,
>
> Looking for a new metroE Edge switch that has more that 10x 10G ports. I
> am having a hard time finding anything worthwhile without buying a full
> blown ASR9K Chassis or another vendor's chassis.
>
> Requirements
> MEF compliant
> 1-2U small foot print
> 10G Ports will be used for ENNI's and UNI Ports
> Prefer MPLS support for L2VPN's (EoMPLS and VPLS)
> QOS per Sub interface\vlan on a ENNI
> Cost effect 10G Ports
> 100G Not required
>
>
> Looking at the
> ASR920's - Great box for 1G but not enough 10G Ports Only 4
> NCS5001/NCS5501 - New\unproven\probably buggy, Lacking some features & QOS
> issues :/
> ASR900 - Looks good, but was hoping for a smaller foot print. If I
> remember right the 8x10G Cards can't go in every slot.
>
> Any other platforms I should be looking at?
>
> Ciena, Brocade, Juniper?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Erik
>
> 
>
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Re: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[David Hubbard]

Would Arista 7280R work?  Gets you 48+ 10gig and a couple QSFP ports even in 
the cheapest model.  I believe it has the features you want.  Haven’t done MPLS 
with it, but I’ve got some running OSPF/OSPFv3 with no issues.

On 4/13/17, 5:37 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Erik Sundberg" 
 wrote:

Hey Nanog,

Looking for a new metroE Edge switch that has more that 10x 10G ports. I am 
having a hard time finding anything worthwhile without buying a full blown 
ASR9K Chassis or another vendor's chassis.

Requirements
MEF compliant
1-2U small foot print
10G Ports will be used for ENNI's and UNI Ports
Prefer MPLS support for L2VPN's (EoMPLS and VPLS)
QOS per Sub interface\vlan on a ENNI
Cost effect 10G Ports
100G Not required


Looking at the
ASR920's - Great box for 1G but not enough 10G Ports Only 4
NCS5001/NCS5501 - New\unproven\probably buggy, Lacking some features & QOS 
issues :/
ASR900 - Looks good, but was hoping for a smaller foot print. If I remember 
right the 8x10G Cards can't go in every slot.

Any other platforms I should be looking at?

Ciena, Brocade, Juniper?



Thanks in advance!

-Erik



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Re: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Richard Holbo]

I have used several of these Huawei S6700 switches with no issues, fast
easy to configure and support pretty much everything you mention.

http://e.huawei.com/en/marketing-material/global/products/enterprise_network/switches/s6700/HUAWEI%20S6700%20Series%2010%20GE%20Switch%20Data%20Sheet

/rh

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Erik Sundberg 
wrote:

> Hey Nanog,
>
> Looking for a new metroE Edge switch that has more that 10x 10G ports. I
> am having a hard time finding anything worthwhile without buying a full
> blown ASR9K Chassis or another vendor's chassis.
>
> Requirements
> MEF compliant
> 1-2U small foot print
> 10G Ports will be used for ENNI's and UNI Ports
> Prefer MPLS support for L2VPN's (EoMPLS and VPLS)
> QOS per Sub interface\vlan on a ENNI
> Cost effect 10G Ports
> 100G Not required
>
>
> Looking at the
> ASR920's - Great box for 1G but not enough 10G Ports Only 4
> NCS5001/NCS5501 - New\unproven\probably buggy, Lacking some features & QOS
> issues :/
> ASR900 - Looks good, but was hoping for a smaller foot print. If I
> remember right the 8x10G Cards can't go in every slot.
>
> Any other platforms I should be looking at?
>
> Ciena, Brocade, Juniper?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Erik
>
> 
>
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RE: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Kody Vicknair]

Have you taken a look at the Juniper QFX series? I use these for video 
multicast and I'm not 100% sure they have support for all the features you've 
requested, BUT I do know of a competitor that uses them for cheap 10G VPLS 
deployment. It might be worth looking into. If you need a Juniper engineer to 
bounce your questions off of, I know a guy...

I'd start here:

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/switching/qfx-series/qfx5100/




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-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+kvicknair=reservetele@nanog.org] On 
Behalf Of Erik Sundberg
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 4:37 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

Hey Nanog,

Looking for a new metroE Edge switch that has more that 10x 10G ports. I am 
having a hard time finding anything worthwhile without buying a full blown 
ASR9K Chassis or another vendor's chassis.

Requirements
MEF compliant
1-2U small foot print
10G Ports will be used for ENNI's and UNI Ports Prefer MPLS support for L2VPN's 
(EoMPLS and VPLS) QOS per Sub interface\vlan on a ENNI Cost effect 10G Ports 
100G Not required


Looking at the
ASR920's - Great box for 1G but not enough 10G Ports Only 4
NCS5001/NCS5501 - New\unproven\probably buggy, Lacking some features & QOS 
issues :/
ASR900 - Looks good, but was hoping for a smaller foot print. If I remember 
right the 8x10G Cards can't go in every slot.

Any other platforms I should be looking at?

Ciena, Brocade, Juniper?



Thanks in advance!

-Erik



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Re: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[valdis . kletnieks]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 21:37:07 -, Erik Sundberg said:

> Looking for a new metroE Edge switch that has more that 10x 10G ports.

> 100G Not required

Did you mean that downlink 100G is not needed (but needed on the uplink side),
or are you planning to use a 40G as an uplink, or are you positive enough that
you'll never get a 10G burst on multiple ports to need more than 10G uplink?



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Re: 10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Colton Conor]

I looked at all three of these solutions, and ended up going with the
Juniper ACX5048. Similar hardware wise to the NCS as it has the Broadcom
chipset, but much more feature rich than Cisco.

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Erik Sundberg 
wrote:

> Hey Nanog,
>
> Looking for a new metroE Edge switch that has more that 10x 10G ports. I
> am having a hard time finding anything worthwhile without buying a full
> blown ASR9K Chassis or another vendor's chassis.
>
> Requirements
> MEF compliant
> 1-2U small foot print
> 10G Ports will be used for ENNI's and UNI Ports
> Prefer MPLS support for L2VPN's (EoMPLS and VPLS)
> QOS per Sub interface\vlan on a ENNI
> Cost effect 10G Ports
> 100G Not required
>
>
> Looking at the
> ASR920's - Great box for 1G but not enough 10G Ports Only 4
> NCS5001/NCS5501 - New\unproven\probably buggy, Lacking some features & QOS
> issues :/
> ASR900 - Looks good, but was hoping for a smaller foot print. If I
> remember right the 8x10G Cards can't go in every slot.
>
> Any other platforms I should be looking at?
>
> Ciena, Brocade, Juniper?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Erik
>
> 
>
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10G MetroE 1-2U Switch

[Erik Sundberg]

Hey Nanog,

Looking for a new metroE Edge switch that has more that 10x 10G ports. I am 
having a hard time finding anything worthwhile without buying a full blown 
ASR9K Chassis or another vendor's chassis.

Requirements
MEF compliant
1-2U small foot print
10G Ports will be used for ENNI's and UNI Ports
Prefer MPLS support for L2VPN's (EoMPLS and VPLS)
QOS per Sub interface\vlan on a ENNI
Cost effect 10G Ports
100G Not required


Looking at the
ASR920's - Great box for 1G but not enough 10G Ports Only 4
NCS5001/NCS5501 - New\unproven\probably buggy, Lacking some features & QOS 
issues :/
ASR900 - Looks good, but was hoping for a smaller foot print. If I remember 
right the 8x10G Cards can't go in every slot.

Any other platforms I should be looking at?

Ciena, Brocade, Juniper?



Thanks in advance!

-Erik



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