Re: IS-IS on FRR - Is Anyone Running It?

2020-04-05 Thread Saku Ytti
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 11:07, Mark Tinka  wrote:

> plane, we manually set IS-IS to operate at 8,000 bytes. This is due to
> VMware's limitation to address an MTU larger than 9,000, and we use it
> to run CSR1000v for our route reflector. So globally, our IS-IS domain
> runs 8,000 bytes.

I'm not sure what 'globally our IS-IS domain runs 8000 bytes' means.
Your LSP MTU is like 1492B, there isn't a mechanism to fragment and
reassemble LSP in-transit. ISIS network doesn't support different MTU
sizes and I've not heard anyone being brave enough to increase LSP MTU
above 1492B.
The only thing that is larger in your network is hellos, and I'm not
even sure how that works, considering 802.3 cannot signal larger
frames than 1500B.

-- 
  ++ytti


Re: IS-IS on FRR - Is Anyone Running It?

2020-04-05 Thread Randy Bush
ok, if IS-IS is kinda working on FRR, at least enough to get loopbacks
and external interfaces around a pop, i gotta ask.

anyone running a ubiquity edgerouter infinity with frr, is-is, and four
or so full bgp feeds?

randy


Re: COVID-19 vs. peering wars

2020-04-05 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, at 20:31, Matthew Petach wrote:
> Netflix, Amazon Prime, Youtube, Hulu, and other video
> streaming services cut their bit rates down?
> 
> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51968302
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/netflix-and-youtube-cut-streaming-quality-in-europe-to-handle-pandemic/
> 
> It seems that perhaps the fingers, and the regulatory
> hammer, are being pointed in the wrong direction at

There was not regulation for that.
There were some politicians crying out and loud in the media that streaming 
platforms should reduce bit-rates. Netflix took the opportunity to try (sooner 
than initially scheduled) new compression schemes/algorithms on their platform. 
Further, they took the opportunity to say "everything is OK, the new stuff will 
be deployed full-scale around Europe". In parallel, other streaming platforms 
took their measures, some of them as simple as "default is one level lower" 
(720p instead of 1080p, or even 480p instead of 720p). That went as far as 
platforms that would never be named explicitly by any "responsible" politician 
(like pornhub and sorts).
Chances are the results of the "bitrate reduction" will end up in the US pretty 
soon. Netflix are also insisting on the fact that it's not a quality reduction, 
just new compression allowing for lower bitrates over the wire.

The French regulator is even very decent in this respect, the official message 
being : "situation is overall good, in the rare cases and places where there 
are issues operators will do heir job to fix the issues".

In general, there are no new issues, just probably more people realising the 
issues that already existed for some time.

Peering-wise, BAU, nothing new. Only thing is one of the 4 majors ISPs, ~21% 
market share, over 98% IPv6 deployment on fixed (and 0% on mobile) mono-homed 
to Cogent and de-peering HE. They are not peering as a general rule.


Re: IS-IS on FRR - Is Anyone Running It?

2020-04-05 Thread Mark Tinka



On 4/Apr/20 19:16, John St.Martin wrote:

> Mark, Thanks for sharing your experiences with FRR. I don't work with
> IS-IS, but have found the development to be very active and fixing
> reproducible bugs quickly.
>
> It look like FRR put a patch in for the bug you referenced and have a
> test build from 3/21 available which allows for up to 16k MTU
> @ https://ci1.netdef.org/browse/FRR-FRRPULLREQ-11364/artifact
>
> I hope this helps and please continue to share your progress with the
> community.

Thanks for the feedback, John. It's great to hear this issue is being fixed.

So I'm not really trying to get IS-IS to run at a high MTU, as that
doesn't really do anything for the data plane. What I am really looking
for is a way to tell IS-IS to run a specific MTU.

In my network, even though we can carry up to 9,192 bytes in the data
plane, we manually set IS-IS to operate at 8,000 bytes. This is due to
VMware's limitation to address an MTU larger than 9,000, and we use it
to run CSR1000v for our route reflector. So globally, our IS-IS domain
runs 8,000 bytes.

I am just looking for a way to tell IS-IS, in FRR, to run at 8,000
bytes, which can be done without needing to fix the current bug in 7.2.
I just can't seem to find any configuration settings to do this, or
anyone that knows what they are.

Mark.