Re: Layer 3 Switches
Cumulus (now NVIDIA) has just entered the access/edge market, so if you're running a 'development-enabled' team, it's a very attractive offering. They bring a pretty solid software solution, that can run on their own CX-1048, or on a variety of manufacturers switches (including Dell). self disclaimer; $dayjob affords Cisco 3650s/9300s, $sidejob(s) affords Dell+Cumulus. -GarrettS On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:42 AM Nathaniel Wingard via NANOG wrote: > I’m looking to replace some access switches (Cisco Catalyst 3750 and > 3560G). I really just need L2 features (stacking, PoE+, VLAN). I’ve found > a 2960X that I like, but Cisco is pushing their 9200 series. The only > downside I see is that the 9200s look to all have Layer 3 features. I’ve > always shied away from L3 switches when I don’t need the L3 features, but I > don’t have any solid reason not to just use the switches and turn off the > L3 features I don’t need. I’m looking for thoughts on this approach. > > > > Thanks, > > Nathaniel > > > > >
Re: Layer 3 Switches
Cisco doesn't want to sell 2960 series anymore and they made that perfectly clear to me over the past couple of years. I ended up switching to Juniper EX gear in places I had been deploying 2960's previously. The EX3400 lineup is better priced than the newer Cisco stuff, and imho a better value overall in terms of what you get. If you stick with Cisco, you'll likely be going with the Cat9200 or Cat9300 series. They're good switches, to be sure, but at the end of the day the Junipers are just as good and cheaper. Good luck on your project! On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:41 AM Nathaniel Wingard via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > I’m looking to replace some access switches (Cisco Catalyst 3750 and > 3560G). I really just need L2 features (stacking, PoE+, VLAN). I’ve found > a 2960X that I like, but Cisco is pushing their 9200 series. The only > downside I see is that the 9200s look to all have Layer 3 features. I’ve > always shied away from L3 switches when I don’t need the L3 features, but I > don’t have any solid reason not to just use the switches and turn off the > L3 features I don’t need. I’m looking for thoughts on this approach. > > > > Thanks, > > Nathaniel > > > > > Matt Harris|Infrastructure Lead Engineer 816-256-5446|Direct Looking for something? Helpdesk Portal|Email Support|Billing Portal We build and deliver end-to-end IT solutions.
Re: Layer 3 Switches
> > I've liked the price of the Ubiquiti switches I've seen, but haven't gotten > to play with them, and based on their EdgeRouter line, am not sure about > their maturity either. > > A switch's maturity is much more dependent on hardware while a router is much more dependent on software, so I suggest assessing a switch on their own merits, regardless of bad experiences with that vendor in the router realm. Rubens
RE: Layer 3 Switches
For this project I'm married to Cisco, but may not be in the future. I've worked with Dell's PowerConnect line, but found that the feature set was 90% of what Cisco had, but it ends up being really frustrating when you need that last 10%. They also haven't seemed quite as mature as the Catalyst line. I've liked the price of the Ubiquiti switches I've seen, but haven't gotten to play with them, and based on their EdgeRouter line, am not sure about their maturity either. Thanks, Nathaniel -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+nwingard=knownsecret@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Martin Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 11:47 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Layer 3 Switches On 6/26/20 10:53 PM, Nathaniel Wingard via NANOG wrote: > I'm looking to replace some access switches (Cisco Catalyst 3750 and > 3560G). I really just need L2 features (stacking, PoE+, VLAN). I've > found a 2960X that I like, but Cisco is pushing their 9200 series. The > only downside I see is that the 9200s look to all have Layer 3 features. > I've always shied away from L3 switches when I don't need the L3 > features, but I don't have any solid reason not to just use the switches > and turn off the L3 features I don't need. I'm looking for thoughts on > this approach. While I can't speak for Cisco, L3 usually comes free (software licenses notwithstanding) from most vendors these days. The off-the-shelf silicon generally handles it along with L2 switching. I'm not sure if you can "turn off" the L3 features in IOS XE (which the 9200s run), but you can of course just not configure them if you don't need them. Are you married to Cisco? The 9200 is not a bad pizza box platform, but you can definitely get comparable features and bandwidth cheaper (or more bandwidth for the same price) from other folks. -- Brandon Martin
Re: Layer 3 Switches
On 6/26/20 10:53 PM, Nathaniel Wingard via NANOG wrote: I’m looking to replace some access switches (Cisco Catalyst 3750 and 3560G). I really just need L2 features (stacking, PoE+, VLAN). I’ve found a 2960X that I like, but Cisco is pushing their 9200 series. The only downside I see is that the 9200s look to all have Layer 3 features. I’ve always shied away from L3 switches when I don’t need the L3 features, but I don’t have any solid reason not to just use the switches and turn off the L3 features I don’t need. I’m looking for thoughts on this approach. While I can't speak for Cisco, L3 usually comes free (software licenses notwithstanding) from most vendors these days. The off-the-shelf silicon generally handles it along with L2 switching. I'm not sure if you can "turn off" the L3 features in IOS XE (which the 9200s run), but you can of course just not configure them if you don't need them. Are you married to Cisco? The 9200 is not a bad pizza box platform, but you can definitely get comparable features and bandwidth cheaper (or more bandwidth for the same price) from other folks. -- Brandon Martin
Layer 3 Switches
I'm looking to replace some access switches (Cisco Catalyst 3750 and 3560G). I really just need L2 features (stacking, PoE+, VLAN). I've found a 2960X that I like, but Cisco is pushing their 9200 series. The only downside I see is that the 9200s look to all have Layer 3 features. I've always shied away from L3 switches when I don't need the L3 features, but I don't have any solid reason not to just use the switches and turn off the L3 features I don't need. I'm looking for thoughts on this approach. Thanks, Nathaniel
Re: netflix proxy/unblocker false detection
> > I'd be down with that. Gamers will kill for even 1 nanosecond of lower > "ping" :-). > Which has long made me chuckle. It's analogous to the golfers buying things to "fix your slice!" or "get 10 more yards!" , when the true reason those things happen is completely your swing. :) On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 9:19 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 26/Jun/20 19:40, Sabri Berisha wrote: > > > Don't hold your breath. It's most likely not related to the capabilities > > of the hardware, or even the kernel running on the platform. > > I'm hoping a new device will bring with it renewed vigour :-). > > I'm probably being ambitious. Overly. > > > > My guess is that there is no IPv6 support because the backend doesn't > > support it. I've seen this at previous employers where the network was > ready > > for IPv6, but back-end applications were lagging. And that might require > > development on a lot of games as well. > > > > Perhaps we should start a rumor: "IPv6 has a lower ping!". We'll get > > thousands of gamers protesting for v6 in front of Sony's HQ :) > > I'd be down with that. Gamers will kill for even 1 nanosecond of lower > "ping" :-). > > Which is quite at odds with a flats screen TV I bought from Sony back in > 2015 that supported IPv6 - and this was Sony's own OS, not a 3rd party > one some of their current units ship with. The good ol' silo problem, > perhaps... > > Mark. >
Re: Contact for OCIX (Philipsburg, SX)
My viewing of their website only lists i...@ocix.net (which I’ll include here in plain because it’s in plain on their website). A few OCIX members are listed on their members page (web.archive.org version here: http://web.archive.org/web/20191202000450/http://www.ocix.net/ocix/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=23 ) All present and past whois is private registration addresses, sorry! On 29 Jun 2020, at 19:26, Elmar K. Bins wrote: Hi people, I'm looking for a working email address to contact the OCIX exchange in Sint Maarten. Unfortunately, ocix.net points to a single MX without A/ records... Thanks in advance, Elmar. publickey - mailman@tuxcon.com.asc.pgp Description: application/pgp-key signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Contact for OCIX (Philipsburg, SX)
Hi people, I'm looking for a working email address to contact the OCIX exchange in Sint Maarten. Unfortunately, ocix.net points to a single MX without A/ records... Thanks in advance, Elmar.
