Re: Telecom billing in 2020

[Colton Conor]

Depends on what you are looking for. Do you need radius authentication?
Workforce management and scheduling? Trouble ticketing? Integrated network
monitoring?

WISPS use Sonar, Powercode, or VISP.NET
CLEC's user Rev.io, OneBill, Logisense


On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:02 PM Ben Cannon  wrote:

> If you had to clean-sheet a CLEC today, what would you base it on? (Must
> do telco compliant billing, CRM is a bonus) and why?
>
> Ms. Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE
> 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
> CEO
> b...@6by7.net
> "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company
> in the world.”
>
> FCC License KJ6FJJ
>
>

Telecom billing in 2020

[Ben Cannon]

If you had to clean-sheet a CLEC today, what would you base it on? (Must do 
telco compliant billing, CRM is a bonus) and why?

Ms. Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
CEO 
b...@6by7.net
"The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the 
world.”

FCC License KJ6FJJ

Re: Fiber Automatic Transfer Switch

[Brandon Martin]

On 8/17/20 3:33 PM, William Herrin wrote:

I want to dissuade you from using this architecture. When you have two
paths, it's important to keep them both lit so that you can detect
faults and correct them in a timely manner. The most intractable
problem with active/failover architectures is that the failover proves
inoperable when it's needed. The old backup tape that doesn't restore.
Keep your layer-1's active all the time and do fault handling at a
higher layer.


They have their uses - mostly protecting layer 1 products sold as such 
but also protecting things that can't be protected easily at higher 
levels such as RFoG.  However, if you're using them to sell protected 
layer 1 products (protected waves or OTN paths, basically), it's 
important to make sure you have at least some active traffic on the link 
at all times that can be monitored for exactly the reasons Bill alludes. 
 For a lot of networks, this can end up being just the OSC, but as 
that's often not subject to the full photonic path, I'd likewise advise 
against that being the case and to make sure you have at least some 
fully "in band" traffic that can be monitored along both legs.


--
Brandon Martin

Re: Fiber Automatic Transfer Switch

[William Herrin]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Tim Nowaczyk
 wrote:
> I am new to the world of layer-1optical failover solutions. Can anyone
> recommend a similar 1U product that can transfer an optical signal to
> a secondary path when there’s been a break?


Hi Tim,

I want to dissuade you from using this architecture. When you have two
paths, it's important to keep them both lit so that you can detect
faults and correct them in a timely manner. The most intractable
problem with active/failover architectures is that the failover proves
inoperable when it's needed. The old backup tape that doesn't restore.
Keep your layer-1's active all the time and do fault handling at a
higher layer.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


-- 
William Herrin
b...@herrin.us
https://bill.herrin.us/

Re: Register Now for NANOG 80 Virtual!

[Tony Tauber]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 4:05 PM Large Hadron Collider <
large.hadron.colli...@gmx.com> wrote:

> Can anyone describe the scholarship process to me please? What does one
> need to demonstrate to be eligible?
>

Ability to collide hadrons at scale may mean you're well on your way...

Alas, I do not know.

Re: Fiber Automatic Transfer Switch

[James Jun]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 02:14:13PM -0400, Tim Nowaczyk wrote:
> I am new to the world of layer-1optical failover solutions. I came across the 
> NTT-AT Intelligent Optical Switch [1] while researching products that can be 
> used to automatically switch a fiber path on link failure. Do any of you have 
> experience with this particular product? Can anyone recommend a similar 1U 
> product that can transfer an optical signal to a secondary path when 
> there???s been a break?

Essentially, all you're looking for is a 1+1 optical splitter on transmit and 
photonic switch on receive.  
Many vendors make this, including from cheap sources[1] to optical protection 
cards from big vendors[2].

I'd also recommend Huhber+Suhner (Cube Optics) - these guys can customize 
optical line protection package, we use them ourselves.

[1]:  http://www.tryincn.com/olp-optical-line-protector-card/
[1]:  https://www.fs.com/products/66010.html
[2]:  https://myriad360.com/product/ciena-ntk554ta/

James

Fiber Automatic Transfer Switch

[Tim Nowaczyk]

I am new to the world of layer-1optical failover solutions. I came across the 
NTT-AT Intelligent Optical Switch [1] while researching products that can be 
used to automatically switch a fiber path on link failure. Do any of you have 
experience with this particular product? Can anyone recommend a similar 1U 
product that can transfer an optical signal to a secondary path when there’s 
been a break?

Thanks,
Tim Nowaczyk

[1] https://www.ntt-at.com/product/optical-switch/product.html 



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Timothy Nowaczyk  |  Senior Network Manager
office  703.554.6622   |  mobile  571.318.9434 
  

 

Re: AT NOC Contact Info

[Warren Kumari]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:46 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
> http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/


As a short followup, the google-self-published-geofeeds format
(referenced on this page, etc)  used on has finally been published as
an RFC -- https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8805.pdf

The plan is to sometime update this with better discoverability, a
more extensible format, etc.

W

>
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
> 
> From: "Brian Pierce" 
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 11:37:26 AM
> Subject: AT NOC Contact Info
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any contact info for AT’s NOC? We’ve encountered what we 
> believe to be a geolocation issue relating to one of our blocks. Any 
> information would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Brian Pierce
>
> Network Technician
>
> bpie...@consolidated.coop
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.
   ---maf

Re: AT NOC Contact Info

[David Funderburk]

You can try this. 

888-644-3662 

---
Regards,

David Funderburk
GlobalVision
864-569-0703 

On 2020/08/17 12:37, Brian Pierce wrote: 

> Hello Everyone, 
> 
> Does anyone have any contact info for AT's NOC? We've encountered what we 
> believe to be a geolocation issue relating to one of our blocks. Any 
> information would be greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> BRIAN PIERCE 
> 
> NETWORK TECHNICIAN 
> 
> bpie...@consolidated.coop 
> 
> -- 
> This message has been scanned for viruses and 
> dangerous content by MAILSCANNER [1], and is 
> believed to be clean.
 

Links:
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Re: AT NOC Contact Info

[Mike Hammett]

http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/ 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Brian Pierce"  
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 11:37:26 AM 
Subject: AT NOC Contact Info 



Hello Everyone, 

Does anyone have any contact info for AT’s NOC? We’ve encountered what we 
believe to be a geolocation issue relating to one of our blocks. Any 
information would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks, 

Brian Pierce 
Network Technician 
bpie...@consolidated.coop 

AT NOC Contact Info

[Brian Pierce]

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone have any contact info for AT's NOC? We've encountered what we 
believe to be a geolocation issue relating to one of our blocks. Any 
information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Brian Pierce
Network Technician
bpie...@consolidated.coop

Re: Zhone

[Bryton Herdes]

Mike -

I don’t know, but let me know if you find one. IIRC I joined your FB group as 
well.

Bryton J. Herdes
Network Engineer
Jackson Electric Cooperative
100 Cooperative Way
Bay City, TX 77414
+1 (979) 479-6658
http://jecec.com
https://myjec.net

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On Aug 17, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

I created a users group on FB, but uptake has been fairly low. Are there any 
Zhone-specific mailing lists or communities out there that I'm not yet aware of?



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Zhone

[Mike Hammett]

I created a users group on FB, but uptake has been fairly low. Are there any 
Zhone-specific mailing lists or communities out there that I'm not yet aware 
of? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP