sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names
Please forgive if this has already been spoken to. if so, you can simply send the link to old mail list entries and that will suffice. otherwise. Does anyone know the scope on why we have 2 names for this ? Seriously, was it one of those things where a vendor started doing it first (pre-standard) as sr, and then ietf started standardizing it as spring ? .or was it always being standardized pre-vendor implementation and there was a disagreement within ietf or elsewhere ? or. was there a conscious decision amongst the inventors to actually call it both sr and spring ? or is their actually something different about each one and I'm wrong in thinking they are 2 names for the same technology. I'm taking stabs at this and presenting multiple choice just as I sit back and wonder why the 2 names I mean there must be a reason why someone thought that we should call this 2 different names. I would think within this NANOG maillist, someone will have the answer or at least some pretty good insights into why the 2 names. Aaron aar...@gvtc.com
Re: Centurylink having a bad morning?
Unless a certain Tier 1 is also a CDN. On 9/5/20 5:12 PM, Mike Hammett via NANOG wrote: The more diversified your peering, the better you are. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com *From: *"Mark Tinka" *To: *nanog@nanog.org *Sent: *Thursday, September 3, 2020 1:35:46 PM *Subject: *Re: Centurylink having a bad morning? On 31/Aug/20 17:57, Bryan Holloway wrote: > Not everyone will peer with you, notably, AS3356 (unless you're big > enough, which few can say.) I think Tomas meant more diverse peering, not peering with CL. Mark.
Re: Centurylink having a bad morning?
> [ off list ] fracking dmark illegal header hacking :( apologies
Re: Centurylink having a bad morning?
[ off list ] >> Oh, yes! Let's not start another "what's a tier one" war! > > Oh no, let's :-). > > We get over here in Africa as well. Local operators either calling > themselves Tier 1, or being called a Tier 1. Nonsensical. > > Years back, our Marketing team asked me to comment on the use of "Tier" > for our literature. You can probably imagine what I said :-). > > For me, it's simple - you are present in X cities or Y cities. Tier is > useless because the Internet does not come from a single country or a > single operator. And saying a network is "big" or "small" is subjective > to everyone's perspective, so that doesn't help either. > > So you're present here, and present there. That's it. spoken like a tier two randy
Re: Centurylink having a bad morning?
I find it most useful as a warning beacon. If anyone is talking about how they are or want "Tier 1", then I need to back away slowly. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Mark Tinka via NANOG" To: "Tomas Lynch" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 5:26:21 AM Subject: Re: Centurylink having a bad morning? On 4/Sep/20 23:41, Tomas Lynch wrote: Oh, yes! Let's not start another "what's a tier one" war! Oh no, let's :-). We get over here in Africa as well. Local operators either calling themselves Tier 1, or being called a Tier 1. Nonsensical. Years back, our Marketing team asked me to comment on the use of "Tier" for our literature. You can probably imagine what I said :-). For me, it's simple - you are present in X cities or Y cities. Tier is useless because the Internet does not come from a single country or a single operator. And saying a network is "big" or "small" is subjective to everyone's perspective, so that doesn't help either. So you're present here, and present there. That's it. It's 2020 :-). Mark.
Re: Centurylink having a bad morning?
The more diversified your peering, the better you are. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Mark Tinka" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 1:35:46 PM Subject: Re: Centurylink having a bad morning? On 31/Aug/20 17:57, Bryan Holloway wrote: > Not everyone will peer with you, notably, AS3356 (unless you're big > enough, which few can say.) I think Tomas meant more diverse peering, not peering with CL. Mark.
Re: Centurylink having a bad morning?
On 4/Sep/20 23:41, Tomas Lynch wrote: > > Oh, yes! Let's not start another "what's a tier one" war! Oh no, let's :-). We get over here in Africa as well. Local operators either calling themselves Tier 1, or being called a Tier 1. Nonsensical. Years back, our Marketing team asked me to comment on the use of "Tier" for our literature. You can probably imagine what I said :-). For me, it's simple - you are present in X cities or Y cities. Tier is useless because the Internet does not come from a single country or a single operator. And saying a network is "big" or "small" is subjective to everyone's perspective, so that doesn't help either. So you're present here, and present there. That's it. It's 2020 :-). Mark.
