Re: Sabotage: several severed cables at the origin of a major internet outage in France

2022-04-27 Thread Hank Nussbacher

On 27/04/2022 17:29, Nick Hilliard wrote:

https://twitter.com/apb_laudrain/status/1519252859598032898

-Hank


+ pics:

https://twitter.com/acontios_net/status/1519296590015606787
https://twitter.com/acontios_net/status/1519280710762348545
https://twitter.com/acontios_net/status/1519276453350805504

Nick

Paul Ferguson wrote on 27/04/2022 15:17:

On 4/27/22 7:08 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:



Multiple physical cable cuts in multiple diverse locations in France.

Several networks that connect the internet infrastructures of major 
French cities were cut overnight, in a short interval. A state source 
evokes with "the Obs" a "coordinated malicious act", which confirms 
SFR and Free affected. An investigation has been opened.


https://www.nouvelobs.com/faits-divers/20220427.OBS57722/plusieurs-cables-sectionnes-a-l-origine-d-une-importante-panne-internet-en-france.html 





English language news article, fwiw:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/27/internet-multiple-cities-across-france-suspected-sabotage/ 



Cheers,

- ferg






Re: FCC to Consider New Rules to Combat International Scam Robocalls

2022-04-27 Thread Abraham Y. Chen

Hi, Keith:

The root cause of phone spam is because Caller-ID service was first 
deteriorated by a marketing gimmick that enabled the spoofing of the 
Caller-ID. Combined with eMail spam techniques, VoIP operations have now 
become out of hand. Below is an overview of these annoyances. This is a 
topic that I am not sure whether NANOG is the proper forum to deal with. 
Although, certain parameters and considerations are closely related to 
the Internet issues.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing


Abe (2022-04-27 22:17)


On 2022-04-27 21:39, Keith Medcalf wrote:

With AT and perhaps others, you can forward the message to 7726
(spells SPAM on the keypad) and they'll reply asking for the originating
phone number or email address.

This is, of course, the root of the problem.  The recipient of the spam does 
not know either the originating phone number or the originating e-mail address. 
 All they know is the Advertizing ID -- and that is useless for everything 
except what it was designed for -- advertizing.

If one knew the originating phone number then one would know who to hunt down and 
which throat to slit from ear to ear, and there would be no need to involve 
AT at all... This, and the fact that the Telco's get bloody rich from 
providing termination for all the crap they have enabled is exactly the reason they 
did it in the first place!




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RE: FCC to Consider New Rules to Combat International Scam Robocalls

2022-04-27 Thread Keith Medcalf


>With AT and perhaps others, you can forward the message to 7726
>(spells SPAM on the keypad) and they'll reply asking for the originating
>phone number or email address.

This is, of course, the root of the problem.  The recipient of the spam does 
not know either the originating phone number or the originating e-mail address. 
 All they know is the Advertizing ID -- and that is useless for everything 
except what it was designed for -- advertizing.

If one knew the originating phone number then one would know who to hunt down 
and which throat to slit from ear to ear, and there would be no need to involve 
AT at all... This, and the fact that the Telco's get bloody rich from 
providing termination for all the crap they have enabled is exactly the reason 
they did it in the first place!

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Code respectively.  If you are brandishing (or in possession) of a weapon then 
lethal force will be applied to your person in accordance with the law.  This 
means that your misadventures may end in your death.  Consider yourself 
cautioned and govern your actions appropriately.





Re: FCC to Consider New Rules to Combat International Scam Robocalls

2022-04-27 Thread Jay Hennigan

On 4/27/22 15:33, Michael Thomas wrote:

So I have a question. Suppose that I wanted to report a call as being 
spam to my provider, say. With email, I can just send them a message 
with the full headers since it's in my inbox. There isn't the equivalent 
for an inbox for voip, so that would require the provider to keep 
records of the signaling, right? I mean it could be kept on the phone if 
it's terminating SIP, but it seems like the provider keeping records 
would be more efficient. What I want is a spam button on the ones that 
it doesn't say are a scam.


With AT and perhaps others, you can forward the message to 7726 
(spells SPAM on the keypad) and they'll reply asking for the originating 
phone number or email address.


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Re: FCC to Consider New Rules to Combat International Scam Robocalls

2022-04-27 Thread Michael Thomas



On 4/27/22 2:41 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
I've noticed a few (small number) of robocalls have started spoofing 
international phone numbers instead of local phone numbers.  I don't 
know if this is because telephone gateways are doing a better job at 
blocking neighbor caller ID spoofing -- or something else.




https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-consider-new-rules-combat-international-scam-robocalls 


WASHINGTON, April 27, 2022

[...]
The new rules, if adopted at the FCC’s May 19 Open Meeting, would 
require gateway providers to participate in robocall mitigation, 
including blocking efforts, take responsibility for illegal robocall 
campaigns on their networks, cooperate with FCC enforcement efforts, 
and quickly respond to efforts to trace illegal robocalls to their 
source. Under the proposed Report and Order, non-compliance by a 
gateway provider would result in that provider being removed from the 
Robocall Mitigation Database and subject to mandatory blocking by 
other network participants, essentially ending its ability to operate. 
[...]



So I have a question. Suppose that I wanted to report a call as being 
spam to my provider, say. With email, I can just send them a message 
with the full headers since it's in my inbox. There isn't the equivalent 
for an inbox for voip, so that would require the provider to keep 
records of the signaling, right? I mean it could be kept on the phone if 
it's terminating SIP, but it seems like the provider keeping records 
would be more efficient. What I want is a spam button on the ones that 
it doesn't say are a scam.


Mike



FCC to Consider New Rules to Combat International Scam Robocalls

2022-04-27 Thread Sean Donelan
I've noticed a few (small number) of robocalls have started spoofing 
international phone numbers instead of local phone numbers.  I don't know 
if this is because telephone gateways are doing a better job at blocking 
neighbor caller ID spoofing -- or something else.




https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-consider-new-rules-combat-international-scam-robocalls
WASHINGTON, April 27, 2022

[...]
The new rules, if adopted at the FCC’s May 19 Open Meeting, would require 
gateway providers to participate in robocall mitigation, including 
blocking efforts, take responsibility for illegal robocall campaigns on 
their networks, cooperate with FCC enforcement efforts, and quickly 
respond to efforts to trace illegal robocalls to their source. Under the 
proposed Report and Order, non-compliance by a gateway provider would 
result in that provider being removed from the Robocall Mitigation 
Database and subject to mandatory blocking by other network participants, 
essentially ending its ability to operate. 
[...]


Re: Sabotage: several severed cables at the origin of a major internet outage in France

2022-04-27 Thread Nick Hilliard

+ pics:

https://twitter.com/acontios_net/status/1519296590015606787
https://twitter.com/acontios_net/status/1519280710762348545
https://twitter.com/acontios_net/status/1519276453350805504

Nick

Paul Ferguson wrote on 27/04/2022 15:17:

On 4/27/22 7:08 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:



Multiple physical cable cuts in multiple diverse locations in France.

Several networks that connect the internet infrastructures of major 
French cities were cut overnight, in a short interval. A state source 
evokes with "the Obs" a "coordinated malicious act", which confirms 
SFR and Free affected. An investigation has been opened.


https://www.nouvelobs.com/faits-divers/20220427.OBS57722/plusieurs-cables-sectionnes-a-l-origine-d-une-importante-panne-internet-en-france.html 





English language news article, fwiw:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/27/internet-multiple-cities-across-france-suspected-sabotage/ 



Cheers,

- ferg




Re: Sabotage: several severed cables at the origin of a major internet outage in France

2022-04-27 Thread Paul Ferguson

On 4/27/22 7:08 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:



Multiple physical cable cuts in multiple diverse locations in France.

Several networks that connect the internet infrastructures of major 
French cities were cut overnight, in a short interval. A state source 
evokes with "the Obs" a "coordinated malicious act", which confirms SFR 
and Free affected. An investigation has been opened.


https://www.nouvelobs.com/faits-divers/20220427.OBS57722/plusieurs-cables-sectionnes-a-l-origine-d-une-importante-panne-internet-en-france.html 





English language news article, fwiw:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/27/internet-multiple-cities-across-france-suspected-sabotage/

Cheers,

- ferg


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Sabotage: several severed cables at the origin of a major internet outage in France

2022-04-27 Thread Sean Donelan



Multiple physical cable cuts in multiple diverse locations in France.

Several networks that connect the internet infrastructures of major French 
cities were cut overnight, in a short interval. A state source evokes with 
"the Obs" a "coordinated malicious act", which confirms SFR and Free 
affected. An investigation has been opened.


https://www.nouvelobs.com/faits-divers/20220427.OBS57722/plusieurs-cables-sectionnes-a-l-origine-d-une-importante-panne-internet-en-france.html