Re: A blatant podcast plug

2023-03-05 Thread Matt Corallo




On 3/5/23 12:34 PM, Dave Taht wrote:

I rather enjoyed doing this podcast a few weeks ago, (and enjoy this
podcast a lot, generally), and it talks to what I've been up to for
the past year or so on fixing bufferbloat for ISPs.

https://packetpushers.net/podcast/heavy-networking-666-improving-quality-of-experience-with-libreqos/

I am kind of curious as to how much XDP and EBPF now exist in the
nanog universe and other applications y'all are finding for it?


I while back I had to make fragments passing through Linux boxes kinda sorta 
reliable-ish.
Sadly, Linux's fragment reassembly code has a wonderful timeout to hold onto potential packets for 
reassembly of 30 *seconds*, and if it has stuff its holding on to it can throw away new stuff [1].


Because frag'ing happens pretty early in receive/usually on the nic in send, rewriting packets in 
normal firewall rules can be annoying. Turns out this was easier to do by just slapping a "rewrite 
the packet to make it pretend its not a frag and turn it back on on the other side" eBPF program on 
tc on the outbound side and xdp on the inbound edge.


Its all a bit low-level (gotta write your own packet reading), but incredibly powerful when you need 
to do something dirty (or more performant, in the cloudflare case, dunno if they're doing the 
in-hardware XDP stuff or not).


Matt

[1] I tried to change it, the constant literally predates linux-in-git but, hey, apparently sat 
links are more important to support 
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/fdcac2a0-5036-f1c8-a926-00f10613d...@bluematt.me/


Re: A blatant podcast plug

2023-03-05 Thread Alexander Huynh via NANOG

On 2023-03-05 12:34:40 -0800, Dave Taht wrote:

I rather enjoyed doing this podcast a few weeks ago, (and enjoy this
podcast a lot, generally), and it talks to what I've been up to for
the past year or so on fixing bufferbloat for ISPs.

https://packetpushers.net/podcast/heavy-networking-666-improving-quality-of-experience-with-libreqos/


Thank you for the link! I'll give it a listen this evening.


I am kind of curious as to how much XDP and EBPF now exist in the
nanog universe and other applications y'all are finding for it?


We at Cloudflare use both XDP and eBPF extensively for our load 
balancing and DoS mitigation applications: 
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ablog.cloudflare.com+xdp+OR+ebpf

--
Alex


A blatant podcast plug

2023-03-05 Thread Dave Taht
I rather enjoyed doing this podcast a few weeks ago, (and enjoy this
podcast a lot, generally), and it talks to what I've been up to for
the past year or so on fixing bufferbloat for ISPs.

https://packetpushers.net/podcast/heavy-networking-666-improving-quality-of-experience-with-libreqos/

I am kind of curious as to how much XDP and EBPF now exist in the
nanog universe and other applications y'all are finding for it?

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