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Re: Office 365 Calendar support for macOS Calendar App
Mark, for what it's worth we do have a few Mac users and some of them do show an "Apple Internet Accounts" under the Azure Active Directory admin center -> Enterprise applications. I, myself, do not show this application under my account (despite the calendar app working fine). I do use both email and calendar on Apple iOS devices, but just calendar under MacOS. Again, I added the account as an Exchange account under Internet Accounts within the past couple months. I suppose if one added an account from the Calendar App or as a different type of account (CalDAV or something) they could have a different experience or if they added it under a previous version of MacOS the same may apply. Good luck, --B On 5/23/2023 10:52 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: Thanks, all, for the replies. After speaking to Kovich in unicast, I realized I needed to explain the issue in more detail. When we ran Exchange on-prem or in the cloud, there was no issue running macOS's native Calendar app with it. However, when we moved to the Office 365 cloud service, it is a whole other affair with how Microsoft offer that service compared to their generic/previous cloud Exchange. With Office 365, non-Microsoft apps have to be pre-approved by Microsoft, at which point they can be loaded into the master profile for your enterprise account with them, e.g., Thunderbird, e.t.c. This all became necessary after Microsoft (and other cloud providers) deprecated/favoured "Normal Password" authentication for OAuth2 authentication. In Microsoft's case, it was a full-on deprecation. Google have the same feature for their cloud services, something they call "Less secure apps". However, Google seem to be more generic about allowing non-Google apps to access their cloud vs. Microsoft who need to pre-approve 3rd party apps that you can add to your enterprise profile. Well, at least as far as I can tell. Microsoft call it "Admin Consent", or something like that: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/manage-apps/configure-admin-consent-workflow Thunderbird, and as far as I can tell, iOS in general, are supported. So I can use Thunderbird to read e-mails hosted by Office 365, because that is a 3rd party app Microsoft support and that your 365 admins. can authorize. There are a ton of other 3rd party apps Microsoft support on 365 from a multitude of other developers. However, macOS's native Calendar app is not one of them. This surprises me, which is why I reached out. A link of what pops up on the macOS Calendar app (and other non-Microsoft apps), looks like this: https://ibb.co/XtvfpJ8 I realize that how Office 365 works on the back-end is probably foreign to a lot of people (I know it is for me), but hopefully there is one person here that knows enough about this to point me in the right direction, as our own 365 admins. are stumped. Mark.
Re: Office 365 Calendar support for macOS Calendar App
Thanks, all, for the replies. After speaking to Kovich in unicast, I realized I needed to explain the issue in more detail. When we ran Exchange on-prem or in the cloud, there was no issue running macOS's native Calendar app with it. However, when we moved to the Office 365 cloud service, it is a whole other affair with how Microsoft offer that service compared to their generic/previous cloud Exchange. With Office 365, non-Microsoft apps have to be pre-approved by Microsoft, at which point they can be loaded into the master profile for your enterprise account with them, e.g., Thunderbird, e.t.c. This all became necessary after Microsoft (and other cloud providers) deprecated/favoured "Normal Password" authentication for OAuth2 authentication. In Microsoft's case, it was a full-on deprecation. Google have the same feature for their cloud services, something they call "Less secure apps". However, Google seem to be more generic about allowing non-Google apps to access their cloud vs. Microsoft who need to pre-approve 3rd party apps that you can add to your enterprise profile. Well, at least as far as I can tell. Microsoft call it "Admin Consent", or something like that: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/manage-apps/configure-admin-consent-workflow Thunderbird, and as far as I can tell, iOS in general, are supported. So I can use Thunderbird to read e-mails hosted by Office 365, because that is a 3rd party app Microsoft support and that your 365 admins. can authorize. There are a ton of other 3rd party apps Microsoft support on 365 from a multitude of other developers. However, macOS's native Calendar app is not one of them. This surprises me, which is why I reached out. A link of what pops up on the macOS Calendar app (and other non-Microsoft apps), looks like this: https://ibb.co/XtvfpJ8 I realize that how Office 365 works on the back-end is probably foreign to a lot of people (I know it is for me), but hopefully there is one person here that knows enough about this to point me in the right direction, as our own 365 admins. are stumped. Mark.
Re: Office 365 Calendar support for macOS Calendar App (Mark Tinka)
Long time Mac user and I found the same problem when I updated my computer and laptop to the latest OS - Ventura. While my phone still was able to see and manage events and invitations, the Mac was blank. Long story short - I removed the 0365 account and then restored it (userid / password) and after a 30 minutes or so, my calendar events all repopulated and I continue as before. IDKWhy I had to go through this extra step, but everything is working as expected now. Note: Mac Mail never had a problem with the transition to Ventura, only Calendar. Happy to help you Mark if you direct email me. > On May 23, 2023, at 7:00 AM, nanog-requ...@nanog.org wrote: > > > ** External email - Please consider with caution ** > > > Send NANOG mailing list submissions to >nanog@nanog.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >nanog-requ...@nanog.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at >nanog-ow...@nanog.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NANOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Office 365 Calendar support for macOS Calendar App (Mark Tinka) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 13:42:56 +0200 > From: Mark Tinka > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Office 365 Calendar support for macOS Calendar App > Message-ID: <818b9f7a-6e5d-d334-0ef8-50b3006eb9f4@tinka.africa> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Hi all. > > It may just be me, or it may not, but figured I'd ask... it seems like > Microsoft's 365 cloud service does not support the native Calendar app > on macOS. > > Oddly, it works without issue for the native Calendar app in iOS. > > A bit of Googl'ing and speaking with some 365 customer admins. suggests > that "Microsoft do not support Apple products in 365", which sounds most > odd to me, as I know a number of Microsoft apps do run on macOS and iOS. > > Am I off the mark, are others seeing the same, is this a known issue, is > it a non-issue? > > Mark. > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/attachments/20230523/338a07fc/attachment-0001.html> > > End of NANOG Digest, Vol 184, Issue 19 > **
Re: Soliciting suggestions and experiences from the community for RPKI-invalid filtering deployment
> some ASes may perform RPKI-invalid filtering only at partial > interfaces (e.g., provider interfaces, customer interfaces, and peer > interfaces). i have heard it said that "my customer pays me to propagate their announcement, so i do not apply rov. let my peers filter it." randy
Soliciting suggestions and experiences from the community for RPKI-invalid filtering deployment
Hello, we have done a worldwide measurement to identify which ASes have propagated RPKI-invalid prefixes. We find an interesting phenomenon that some ASes may perform RPKI-invalid filtering only at partial interfaces (e.g., provider interfaces, customer interfaces, and peer interfaces). Although there are other studies [1, 2] noting the same phenomenon, little is known about why some network operators perform different filtering policies at different interfaces. We are trying to figure out the reasons and summarize the optimal deployment policy for RPKI-invalid filtering. To this end, we create an anonymous questionnaire and hope you can help fill out it. Questionnaire link: https://qfreeaccountssjc1.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/preview/previewId/70bbaf01-b4a6-4f7d-aac4-33cff5b135a3/SV_dj62hVBXcEy5ryC?Q_CHL=preview_SurveyVersionID=current Reference: [1] Help Validate ROV Adoption Measurements from RoVista. https://labs.ripe.net/author/tijay-chung/help-validate-rov-adoption-measurements-from-rovista/ [2] 85% of MANRS Members Conformant to Actions 1 and 4. https://www.manrs.org/2023/01/85-of-manrs-members-conformant/ If you have any questions, concerns, issues, or comments, please send an email to ql...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn Best, Lancheng
Re: Office 365 Calendar support for macOS Calendar App
Same here. Added the account as Exchange within the Internet Accounts section of System Settings. No issues that I've seen and I use the Calendar app pretty regularly within MacOS, iOS, and the office.com website. On 5/23/2023 7:11 AM, Steve Lalonde wrote: Hi Mark, I’m using macOS native calendar app with office365, I just setup as exchange in the add account dialogue. It used to get stuck and refuse to update previous to 13.2, just disabling calendar in the account and then reenabling seemed to fix it, but did take a while, not seen that since recently, I’m on 13.4 now. I only fire up outlook to adjust filters on e-mail. Steve On 23 May 2023, at 12:42, Mark Tinka wrote: Hi all. It may just be me, or it may not, but figured I'd ask... it seems like Microsoft's 365 cloud service does not support the native Calendar app on macOS. Oddly, it works without issue for the native Calendar app in iOS. A bit of Googl'ing and speaking with some 365 customer admins. suggests that "Microsoft do not support Apple products in 365", which sounds most odd to me, as I know a number of Microsoft apps do run on macOS and iOS. Am I off the mark, are others seeing the same, is this a known issue, is it a non-issue? Mark.
Re: Office 365 Calendar support for macOS Calendar App
Hi Mark, I’m using macOS native calendar app with office365, I just setup as exchange in the add account dialogue. It used to get stuck and refuse to update previous to 13.2, just disabling calendar in the account and then reenabling seemed to fix it, but did take a while, not seen that since recently, I’m on 13.4 now. I only fire up outlook to adjust filters on e-mail. Steve > On 23 May 2023, at 12:42, Mark Tinka wrote: > > Hi all. > > It may just be me, or it may not, but figured I'd ask... it seems like > Microsoft's 365 cloud service does not support the native Calendar app on > macOS. > > Oddly, it works without issue for the native Calendar app in iOS. > > A bit of Googl'ing and speaking with some 365 customer admins. suggests that > "Microsoft do not support Apple products in 365", which sounds most odd to > me, as I know a number of Microsoft apps do run on macOS and iOS. > > Am I off the mark, are others seeing the same, is this a known issue, is it a > non-issue? > > Mark.
Office 365 Calendar support for macOS Calendar App
Hi all. It may just be me, or it may not, but figured I'd ask... it seems like Microsoft's 365 cloud service does not support the native Calendar app on macOS. Oddly, it works without issue for the native Calendar app in iOS. A bit of Googl'ing and speaking with some 365 customer admins. suggests that "Microsoft do not support Apple products in 365", which sounds most odd to me, as I know a number of Microsoft apps do run on macOS and iOS. Am I off the mark, are others seeing the same, is this a known issue, is it a non-issue? Mark.
