Re: 1299 capacity constraints
Someone else made this joke via direct email. Old minds think alike? On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 7:39 PM Matthew Petach wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 15:27 Ross Tajvar wrote: > >> It extremely depends on who you're trying to reach and from what >> location. We've seen lots of T1s have congested peering lately. >> > > Whoa. > > I thought I was the only one old-school enough to still be using a T1 for > connectivity. Are people seriously actually trying to use T1s for peering > in this day and age? ^_^; > > Matt > > >
RE: 1299 capacity constraints
Tier1.. likely via fiber, not old fashioned telco based T1 circuits. Whoa. I thought I was the only one old-school enough to still be using a T1 for connectivity. Are people seriously actually trying to use T1s for peering in this day and age? ^_^;
Re: 1299 capacity constraints
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 15:27 Ross Tajvar wrote: > It extremely depends on who you're trying to reach and from what location. > We've seen lots of T1s have congested peering lately. > Whoa. I thought I was the only one old-school enough to still be using a T1 for connectivity. Are people seriously actually trying to use T1s for peering in this day and age? ^_^; Matt
Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..
> #define SOAPBOX > > Please remember ARIN covers more than just the relatively prosperous > United States. There are places like Jamaica, which are also in the > ARIN region, where the average annual income is $2,337. indeed i find this thread to be depressing. the economics you mention, of course. but also folk being rude, judgemental, and blaming the user for being confused by the complex and jargon-infested bureaucrazy we have created in the rirs. and yes, props to the rirs for trying to document rules and processes. but that often seems to create even more documents. and, of course, if you have to deal with multiple rirs, expect no parallelism, similar nomenclature, etc. it is very easy for a new rir user to get confused by corner cases, terminology, quirks of history, and the detritus of our amateur policy wonkage. give 'em a break. and see if we can round off the rough edges where they got caught. randy --- note that i use the first person plural
Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 2:09 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > This screams of entitlement. If you can't afford $250 a year for ARIN, you > probably shouldn't be starting a new business. Sorry > #define SOAPBOX Darin, Please remember ARIN covers more than just the relatively prosperous United States. There are places like Jamaica, which are also in the ARIN region, where the average annual income is $2,337. Having to put aside 11% of your annual income for ARIN registry fees to start a business is a big decision. I don't think you'd like it if we called you "entitled" for not wanting to shell out 11% of your annual income for ARIN fees to start a business. While NANOG by name does narrow the focus to just "North America", we should all remember that even in North America, wealth is not distributed equally. There are communities that very much need the economic development that new businesses can bring, where a $250/year annual fee represents a significant headwind. Rather than pooh-pooh their concerns, we should instead strive to see the world through that entrepreneur's eyes, and address their concerns, rather than brush them aside. Thanks! Matt #undef SOAPBOX
Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..
On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 8:57 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > There is no possible way that anyone should interpret > the current wording of the asterisk'd text as ALL IPv6 > fees are waived until 2026. None. If that's your take > away, I'm not sure what to say. Hi Tom, I think the point is that "waiver" is the wrong word. It's not a waiver, it's a discount. You go calling things waivers that aren't, someone's gonna miss the asterisk and get rudely surprised. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin b...@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/
