Re: SingTel (AS7473) is only announcing ConnectPlus (AS9911) routes to Level3 (AS3356) in SJC?

2010-08-05 Thread Adam LaFountain
 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:38:55 +0200
 From: Martin Barry ma...@supine.com
 Subject: SingTel (AS7473) is only announcing ConnectPlus (AS9911)
        routes to       Level3 (AS3356) in SJC?
 To: na...@nanog.org

 Anyone on the list who can offer an explanation about the following
 scenario? We have taken this up with providers at either end but it
 will take awhile to filter up to the ASes in question.

 We were seeing a London to Singapore connection go via San Jose
 causing a 50%+ increase in latency.

 It appears that SingTel (AS7473) is only announcing ConnectPlus
 (AS9911) routes to Level3 (AS3356) in SJC.

 However they have many adjacencies in many countries and other routes
 of both AS7473 and it's other downstreams don't appear to be affected
 (although I haven't tested them all).

 Traceroutes are appended at the end but to see for yourself use
 202.176.222.0 as a BGP or traceroute query in the Level3 looking glass
 for both London and any other location, then compare with 167.172.93.0

 Checking another large AS at random, they see AS7473 announcing AS9911
 routes in London.

 thanks
 Marty

At first I wanted to say this looks like a policy move on 7473's part
but on further investigation I'm not sure if they're punishing
themselves or doing some very specific traffic routing possible for
balancing purposes.  Noticing in Leve'3 bgp output they're a customer

 Show Level 3 (London, England) BGP routes for 202.176.222.212

BGP routing table entry for 202.176.222.0/24
Paths: (2 available, best #1)
  7473 9911
  AS-path translation: { APNIC-AS-2-BLOCK APNIC-AS-3-BLOCK }
car2.SanJose1 (metric 44128)
  Origin IGP, metric 100, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
  Community: North_America  Lclprf_100 Level3_Customer
United_States San_Jose 7473:1 7473:2 7473:41101
Prepend_2_to_AS1668 Prepend_2_to_AS13680
  Originator: car2.SanJose1
  7473 9911
  AS-path translation: { APNIC-AS-2-BLOCK APNIC-AS-3-BLOCK }
car2.SanJose1 (metric 44128)
  Origin IGP, metric 100, localpref 100, valid, internal
  Community: North_America  Lclprf_100 Level3_Customer
United_States San_Jose 7473:1 7473:2 7473:41101
Prepend_2_to_AS1668 Prepend_2_to_AS13680
  Originator: car2.SanJose1

I was inclined to believe it was related to cost, especially seeing
the prepend for AOL (1668), but began to dimiss that as I saw two
known _peers_ haul the traffic to the west coast as well:

Router: gin-l78-mcore3
Site: GB, London - L78, VSNL LONTX01 STRATFORD
Command: show ip bgp 202.176.222.212


BGP routing table entry for 202.176.222.0/24
Bestpath Modifiers: deterministic-med
Paths: (3 available, best #2)
 13 16
  7473 9911
laa-icore1. (metric 3100) from laa-mcore3. (laa-mcore3.)
  Origin IGP, valid, internal
  Community: Peer route North America West Coast Los Angeles (LAA, LMR)
  Originator: laa-icore1.
  7473 9911
pdi-icore1. (metric 3095) from pdi-mcore4. (pdi-mcore4.)
  Origin IGP, valid, internal, best
  Community: Peer route North America West Coast Palo Alto (PDI)
  Originator: pdi-icore1.

and-
1   74 ms   75 ms   75 ms   10gigabitethernet2-3.core1.nyc4.he.net 
(72.52.92.77)
2   130 ms  149 ms  147 ms  10gigabitethernet5-3.core1.lax1.he.net 
(72.52.92.226)
3   131 ms  130 ms  139 ms  laxeq-ds2-peer1.singtel.com (206.223.123.120)
4   131 ms  130 ms  139 ms  ge-1-0-0-0.laxow-cr2.ix.singtel.com 
(203.208.149.118)

In terms of figuring it out for sure I dont think L3 will tell you
anything as they probably don't know.  SingTel's your best bet but
good luck with that unless you become a customer.  I'm going to vote
backbone traffic balancing by SingTel.



Re: Contract negotiations advice?

2010-06-29 Thread Adam LaFountain

 I am dealing with a large telecom which purchased the small telecom I
 signed a contract with.

 Despite signing only 1 contract with them, the two racks, and the
 bandwidth which feeds 1 rack (I connect privately to the second rack at
 no charge) all have different termination dates.

 Check your billing.  Did your first invoice have all of your services?  How
about the second one?  If they didn't bill you on time, it's partially your
fault.  If they did bill you for everything, then you
have empirical evidence showing when you started the term (by performance..
paying) and their dates are wrong.


 How signing one contract resulted in 3 different end of term dates,
 months apart, I can't quite figure out.

 Did your original vendor provide a turn-up or activation notice?  This
should indicate the date that would go in their system to indicate term
expiration.


 Can anyone point me to a mailing list or discussion forum containing
 advice on dealing with such issues?  And the wider issue of negotiating
 good rates with telecoms?

Typical economics, more volume leads to better deals; growth appeal;
competitive reference, etc.


Re: no you can't configure your router w/ this

2010-06-22 Thread Adam LaFountain

 sigh... where was this useful data 10 years ago!

 http://www.fcc.gov/worldtravel/


Even more entertaining is the reboot.fcc.gov (Beta) in the top right
corner.  I wonder if they have a reboot.ftc.gov link as well; that might
actually be more useful.


E1200i vs EX8200 in Large Deployment

2010-06-03 Thread Adam LaFountain
Hi All,

If anyone out there has any pro/con experience with the Force10 E1200i or
S50 in a large environment I'd really appreciate your thoughts.  I'm
comparing them against the Juniper EX8200 and EX4200 respectively and
curious about hardware/software stability on both brands.  Off-list
responses are invited to avoid publicly promoting/demoting a specific brand
or device ;)

Many thanks in advance,
Adam LaFountain


Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Adam LaFountain

 I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS
 systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged into
 APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that my
 facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great for
 normal electrical gear that can be backed against a wall, but not so
 great for a product which is designed for the everything goes in with
 your racks mindset. Any insight would be appreciated.



I heard the MGE product set was designed to replace the typical/old UPS
product sets, like the Silcon Series, and that APC branded units would be
concentrated on the Symmetra product line.  Keep in mind the Symmetras
above around 30kva are self contained units that are really racked in the
same rack as other equipment.


Re: Level 3 (was: legacy Wiltel/Looking Glass bandwidth)

2009-07-02 Thread Adam LaFountain


 Without continuing the L3 pile-on, one can easily glean from their public
 filings that they have never properly filled out their management depth in
 acquisition absorption and/or sufficiently empowered those folks. The
 billions in revenue lost from acquisitions like Genuity and others have told
 this story more than once.

 L3 is not alone in this. Worldcomm's failure to integrate acquisitions led
 to a much larger operational cash need than VZ has shown for the same assets
 (verio, lots of other names here). This is because VZ understands how
 traditional businesses acquire others, better, in my opinion.

 Unfortunately, L3 has shown little interest in making the real world,
 tough business cuts in heads and absorbing the real (internal) pain of
 acquisitions and seems to have a pretty laissez-faire attitude towards its
 customers, even at its senior management levels (Cxx). I think this will be
 (and has been) the biggest problem for them. Even a possible merger/JV with
 Sprint may not be sufficient to solve that. Their resolution of billing
 disputes is much more typical of WCOM than VZ.

 They are a big fish in lots, and lots, of markets. They enjoy being able
 to dictate pricing in them. IMO, however, they don't have the maturity of
 (say, ATT or others) to take that big fish status and leave you still happy
 with the service. (colloquially: if [good companies] are going to take
 advantage, at least they don't make it more painful than necessary).

 Operationally, where you have options (because of pricing, locality, etc)
 it's long-term good to support competitors, diversity in connectivity, etc.
 History has shown time and time again that when an industry consolidates a
 lot of business with a certain vendor, bad things can and do occur.

 Deepak Jain
 AiNET


Not to mention they have also been the subject of several class action suits
for this very reason regarding the integration of acquired assets, or lack
thereof:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/The-Shuman-Law-Firm-Announces-pz-14325037.html?x=1
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/The-Pomerantz-Firm-Charges-pz-14430251.html?x=1
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/090330/0486160.html


Adam LaFountain


Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL

2009-05-15 Thread Adam LaFountain
 We need true full routes and more CPU horsepower for crunching BGP
 (+12 smaller peers + ISIS). OC3 interfaces are going to be mandatory,
 one each at two locations. Oh yeah, we're still a larger startup
 without endless pockets. Power, rack space, and SmartNet are not
 concerns at any location (on-site cold spares). We may need an
 upstream OC12 in the future but that's a ways out and not a concern
 here.

 Our engineering team has settled on three $20k/node options:
 - Sup720-3BXLs with PS and fan upgrades
 - Sup2s as switches + ISIS + statics and no BGP, push BGP edge routing
 off to NPE-G2s across a 2-3Gbps port-channel
 - Sup2s as switches + ISIS + statics and no BGP, push BGP edge routing
 off to a 12008 with E3 engines across a 2-3Gbps port-channel.

 Ideas and constructive opinions welcome, especially software and
 stability-related.





For about $6k all in, you could pickup a monster dual Xeon server with a few
10GE PCI line cards and run a subscription service of the Vyatta open source
router.  With high end machine specs, we've been able to run 5 full tables
and a solid amount of peers with about 6.5Gbps sustained to the net without
any stress.  For  access, we just trunk one of the PCI cards down to a 6506
or a 3750 and it runs nice and clean.  The only downside to this setup is
the lack of cisco proprietary software features which it sounds like you
might need.  If anything you might be able to keep your existing setup and
uplink everything to one of these routers as an edge device.

Adam


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