[Event] Call for Presentations EPF 2024, Vienna, Austria // NANOG
Dear all, This is a Call for Presentations for the European Peering Forum 2024. AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX, NETNOD and guest IXP VIX, are happy to host the European Peering Forum (EPF) 2024 from Sunday the 15th to Wednesday 18th September 2024 in Vienna, Austria. The event will welcome peering managers and coordinators from networks connected to the host and guest Internet exchanges. Besides some interesting topical agenda, the three-day event accommodates room for attendees to meet on a one-to-one basis to discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. The programme committee will be looking for presentations related to peering and technical topics of interconnection. Your presentation could address: * Interconnection Automation * Regional Peering * Interconnection / Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory Topics * Economic and Product Trends * Peering / Interconnection strategies * Interesting findings about Peering / Interconnection * 400GE and beyond * Any other hot topic related to Interconnection / Peering Submissions === Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme committee epf...@peering-forum.eu Please include: * Author's name and e-mail address * Presentation title * Abstract * Slides (can be a draft version as long as the storyline is presented clearly) * Time requested (max. 30 minutes incl. Q) Submissions will be rated by the programme committee and admitted according to the available time slots. Deadlines = Please send in your presentation asap. The latest date for submission is June 16th. More information about the event and other activities around EPF17 may be found at * https://peering-forum.eu/2024/ / On behalf of EPF, Best regards, AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX and NETNOD -- Keep calm, keep distance, keep connected! Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958
Re: Call for Presentations EPF 2023, Prage, Czech Republic // NANOG
Dear all, Since we strive to get the best program for every EPF, we have decided to extend the submission deadline to 2023-08-13. On behalf of the EPF Program Committee Warm Regards, AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX and NETNOD On 23.04.2023 17:13, Arnold Nipper wrote: Dear all, this is the Call for Presentations for the European Peering Forum 2023. AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX, NETNOD and guest IXP NIX.CZ, are happy to host the European Peering Forum (EPF) 2023 from Sunday the 10th to Wednesday 13th September 2023 in Prague, Czech Republic. The event will welcome peering managers and coordinators from networks connected to the host and guest Internet exchanges. Besides some interesting topical agenda, the three-day event accommodates room for attendees to meet on a one-to-one basis to discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. The programme committee will be looking for presentations and related to peering and technical topics of interconnection. Your presentation should address: * Interconnection Automation * Regional Peering * Interconnection / Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory Topics * Economic and Product Trends * Peering / Interconnection strategies * Interesting findings about Peering / Interconnection * 400GE and beyond * Any other hot topic related to Interconnection / Peering Submissions === Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme committee . Please include: * Author's name and e-mail address * Presentation title * Abstract * Slides (if available) * Time requested (max. 30 minutes incl. Q) Deadlines = Please send in your presentation asap. We decide on a first come first serve basis. The latest date for submission is July 30th, 2023. More information about the event and other activities around EPF16 may be found at * https://peering-forum.eu/2023/ * https://www.facebook.com/groups/1486607564933665/ On behalf of EPF, Best regards, AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX and NETNOD -- Keep calm, keep distance, keep connected! Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Call for Presentations EPF 2023, Prage, Czech Republic // NANOG
Dear all, this is the Call for Presentations for the European Peering Forum 2023. AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX, NETNOD and guest IXP NIX.CZ, are happy to host the European Peering Forum (EPF) 2023 from Sunday the 10th to Wednesday 13th September 2023 in Prague, Czech Republic. The event will welcome peering managers and coordinators from networks connected to the host and guest Internet exchanges. Besides some interesting topical agenda, the three-day event accommodates room for attendees to meet on a one-to-one basis to discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. The programme committee will be looking for presentations and related to peering and technical topics of interconnection. Your presentation should address: * Interconnection Automation * Regional Peering * Interconnection / Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory Topics * Economic and Product Trends * Peering / Interconnection strategies * Interesting findings about Peering / Interconnection * 400GE and beyond * Any other hot topic related to Interconnection / Peering Submissions === Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme committee . Please include: * Author's name and e-mail address * Presentation title * Abstract * Slides (if available) * Time requested (max. 30 minutes incl. Q) Deadlines = Please send in your presentation asap. We decide on a first come first serve basis. The latest date for submission is July 30th, 2023. More information about the event and other activities around EPF16 may be found at * https://peering-forum.eu/2023/ * https://www.facebook.com/groups/1486607564933665/ On behalf of EPF, Best regards, AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX and NETNOD -- Keep calm, keep distance, keep connected! Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Seeking contact with Russian Lawful Intercept (SORM) implementation experience
On 09.09.2021 23:36, Jon Boone wrote: > Hi folks, > > I’m looking for a contact who has experience with implementing Russian > SORM-[2,3] compliance infrastructures. > > I recognize this may be the NOG forum to ask in. — if there is a more > appropriate one, please let me know. > There's also an ENOG [0] ml Arnold [0] https://www.enog.org/ -- Keep calm, keep distance, keep connected! Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[FYI] Call for Presentations for the virtual European Peering Forum 2021
Dear all This is a call for Presentations for the virtual European Peering Forum 2021 AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX, Netnod are happy to host the virtual European Peering Forum (EPF) 2021 from the 20th - 22th September 2021. The event will welcome peering managers and coordinators from networks connected to the host Internet exchanges. Besides some interesting topical agenda, the three-day event accommodates room for attendees to meet virtually on a one-to-one basis to discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. The programme committee will be looking for presentations related to peering and technical topics of interconnection. Your presentation should address * Interconnection Automation * Regional Peering * Interconnection / Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory Topics * Economic and Product Trends * Peering / Interconnection strategies * Interesting findings about Peering / Interconnection * 400GE and beyond * Any other hot topic related to Interconnection / Peering Submissions === Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or marketing-heavy talks are strongly discouraged. Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme committee . Please include: * Author's name and e-mail address * Presentation title * Abstract * Slides (if available) * Time requested (max. 30 minutes incl. Q) Deadlines = Please send in your presentation asap. We decide on a first come first serve basis. The latest date for submission is July 30th. More information about the event and other activities around the virtual EPF 2021 may be found at * https://peering-forum.eu/ * https://www.facebook.com/groups/1586607564933665/ Cheers Arnold -- Keep calm, keep distance, keep connected! Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'
Douglas On 08.09.2020 17:55, Douglas Fischer via NANOG wrote: > Most of us have already used some BGP community policy to no-export some > routes to some where. > > On the majority of IXPs, and most of the Transit Providers, the very > common community tell to route-servers and routers "Please do no-export > these routes to that ASN" is: > > -> 0: > > So we could say that this is a de-facto standard. > > > But the Policy equivalent to "Please, export these routes only to that > ASN" is very varied on all the IXPs or Transit Providers. > > > With that said, now comes some questions: > > 1 - Beyond being a de-facto standard, there is any RFC, Public Policy, > or something like that, that would define 0: as > "no-export-to" standard? > > 2 - What about reserving some 16-bits ASN to use : > as "export-only-to" standard? > 2.1 - Is important to be 16 bits, because with (RT) extended > communities, any ASN on the planet could be the target of that policy. > 2.2 - Would be interesting some mnemonic number like 1000 / 1 or so. > you may want to have a look at https://www.euro-ix.net/en/forixps/large-bgp-communities/ Cheers Arnold -- Keep calm, keep distance, keep connected! Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[CfP] virtual EPF 2020 // 14-16 September 2020 // NANOG
*Call for Presentations virtual European Peering Forum 2020* AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX, Netnod are happy to host the virtual European Peering Forum (EPF) 2020 from the 14th - 16th September 2020. The event will welcome peering managers and coordinators from networks connected to the host Internet exchanges. Besides some interesting topical agenda, the three-day event accommodates room for attendees to virtually meet on a one-to-one basis to discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. The programme committee will be looking for presentations and related to peering and technical topics of interconnection. Your presentation should address * Interconnection Automation * Regional Peering * Interconnection / Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory Topics * Economic and Product Trends * Peering / Interconnection strategies * Interesting findings about Peering / Interconnection * 400GE and beyond * Any other hot topic related to Interconnection / Peering Submissions === Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme committee . Please include: * Author's name and e-mail address * Presentation title * Abstract * Slides (if available) * Time requested (max. 15 minutes incl. Q) Deadlines = Please send in your presentation asap. We decide on a first come first serve basis. More information about the event and other activities around the virtual EPF 2020 may be found at * https://peering-forum.eu/ * https://www.facebook.com/groups/1586607564933665/ -- Keep calm, keep distance, keep connected! Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: six pages for rov issues
On 13.06.2020 21:20, Randy Bush wrote: > chris at the ever fantastic six has done a stunning bit of work to let > six members see rpki/irr announcement issues > >https://www.seattleix.net/rs-drops > Nice work! Very well done, Chris! You may also want to have a look at this article [0] where DE-CIX' LGis explained. And it also provides a nice API. Cheers Arnold [0] https://www.de-cix.net/de/resources/looking-glass -- Keep calm, keep distance, keep connected! Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Landing Stations used as datacenter
On 15.11.2019 03:58, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > Hey there > > I have been putting my thoughts on Infrapedia blog and sharing with > folks like > > https://www.infrapedia.com/post/top20cities-datacenters > > I am working on a new article and this time my topic will be looking at > cable landing stations(cls). Do you consider cable landing stations as a > datacenter? Do you have any experience deploying a pop in CLS? Are you > able to share (on or off record) your experience which I can refer as > your experience (good or bad) why deploying a pop inside a CLS is good > or bad idea. Any additional comments.. > > I am not a big fan of CLS deployments. They have limited networks ( like > only carriers and no eyeballs) and very expensive connectivity (usually) > > Thank you in advance sharing your experience > you may want to have a look at the presentation from Tan Tze Meng (MDEC) at last weeks Peering Asia 3.0 on "Malaysia: A New Submarine Cable Route" [0] where he shared ideas how to deal with CLS and DC. Cheers Arnold [0] https://www.peeringasia.com/agenda/, will be online in a couple of days -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Reminder] [FYI] Call for Presentations European Peering Forum 14 (EPF14) // NANOG
Dear Community we have extended the Deadlines = Presentation Abstract Deadline 29/07/2019 12:00 UTC Final Selection of Speakers 09/08/2019 Presentation Slides Submission Deadline 02/09/2019 12:00 UTC Best regards Arnold On 23.04.2019 23:31, Arnold Nipper wrote: > Dear Community > > This is the Call for Presentations European Peering Forum 14 (EPF14) > > AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX and Netnod are happy to host the 14th European > Peering Forum (EPF) in Tallinn, Estonia from the 16th - 18th > September 2019. The event will welcome up to 300 peering managers and > coordinators from networks connected to the host Internet exchanges. > Besides an interesting topical agenda, the three-day event > accommodates room for attendees to meet on a one-to-one basis to > discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. > > The programme committee will be looking for presentations and > lightning talks related to peering and technical topics of > interconnection. Your presentation should address > > * Interconnection Automation > * Regional Peering > * Interconnection / Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory Topics > * Economic and Product Trends > * Peering / Interconnection strategies > * Interesting findings about Peering / Interconnection > * 400GE and beyond > > > Submissions > === > > Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or > marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. > > Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme > committee . Please include: > > * Author's name and e-mail address > * Presentation title > * Abstract > * Slides (if available) > * Time requested (max. 30 minutes incl. Q) > > > Deadlines > = > > Presentation Abstract Deadline15/07/2019 12:00 UTC > Final Selection of Speakers 26/07/2019 > Presentation Slides Submission Deadline 02/09/2019 12:00 UTC > > > More information about the event and other activities around EPF14 > may be found at > > * https://peering-forum.eu/ > > * https://www.facebook.com/groups/1486607564933665/ > > > Best regards > Arnold > -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[FYI] Call for Presentations European Peering Forum 14 (EPF14) // NANOG
Dear Community This is the Call for Presentations European Peering Forum 14 (EPF14) AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX and Netnod are happy to host the 14th European Peering Forum (EPF) in Tallinn, Estonia from the 16th - 18th September 2019. The event will welcome up to 300 peering managers and coordinators from networks connected to the host Internet exchanges. Besides an interesting topical agenda, the three-day event accommodates room for attendees to meet on a one-to-one basis to discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. The programme committee will be looking for presentations and lightning talks related to peering and technical topics of interconnection. Your presentation should address * Interconnection Automation * Regional Peering * Interconnection / Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory Topics * Economic and Product Trends * Peering / Interconnection strategies * Interesting findings about Peering / Interconnection * 400GE and beyond Submissions === Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme committee . Please include: * Author's name and e-mail address * Presentation title * Abstract * Slides (if available) * Time requested (max. 30 minutes incl. Q) Deadlines = Presentation Abstract Deadline 15/07/2019 12:00 UTC Final Selection of Speakers 26/07/2019 Presentation Slides Submission Deadline 02/09/2019 12:00 UTC More information about the event and other activities around EPF14 may be found at * https://peering-forum.eu/ * https://www.facebook.com/groups/1486607564933665/ Best regards Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Best practices for BGP Communities
On 04.03.2019 19:15, John Kristoff wrote: > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 01:42:02 + > Joshua Miller wrote: > >> A while back I read somewhere that transit providers shouldn't delete >> communities unless the communities have a specific impact to their >> network, but my google-fu is failing me and I can't find any sources. > > Perhaps you're referring to this recent work? > > <https://archive.psg.com/181101.imc-communities.pdf> > See also https://2019.apricot.net/assets/files/APKS756/weaponizing-bgp-using-communities.pdf Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Announcing Peering-LAN prefixes to customers
On 16.01.2019 17:39, Christoffer Hansen wrote: > On 16/01/2019 15:55, John Kristoff wrote: >> In Randy's presentation there is the suggestion to develop an IX filter >> list. Nearly 20 years later that actually happened. >> >> <https://www.team-cymru.com/ixp.html> >> >> This wasn't a popular service when I left Team Cymru, but it seems to >> still be available if anyone wants to consider using that. > > You could do the same trick. But with data fetched from PeeringDB via > the public API. Works well. > There is also a feature request [0] to tag those prefixes whether they should be blocked or not. Once implemented it should be easy to build a filter. Arnold [0] https://github.com/peeringdb/peeringdb/issues/352 -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Call for Presentations European Peering Forum 13 (EPF13) / NANOG
Call for Presentations European Peering Forum 13 (EPF13) AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX, Netnod are happy to host the 13rd European Peering Forum (EPF) in Athens, Greece from the 17th - 19th September 2018. The event will welcome up to 300 peering managers and coordinators from networks connected to the host Internet exchanges. Besides an interesting topical agenda, the three-day event accommodates room for attendees to meet on a one-to-one basis to discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. The programme committee will be looking for presentations and lightning talks related to peering and technical topics of interconnection. Your presentation should address * Interconnection Automation * Regional Peering * Interconnection / Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory Topics * Economic and Product Trends * Peering / interconnection strategies * Interesting findings about peering / interconnection * 400GE and beyond Submissions === Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme committee <epf...@peering-forum.eu>. Please include: * Author's name and e-mail * Presentation title * Abstract * Slides (if available) * Time requested Deadlines = Presentation Abstract Deadline 16/07/2018 12:00 UTC Final Selection of Speakers 27/07/2018 Presentation Slides Submission Deadline 03/09/2018 12:00 UTC More information about the event and other activities around EPF13 may be found at * https://peering-forum.eu/ * https://www.facebook.com/groups/1486607564933665/ Best regards Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958
Re: Call for presentations EPF12, 18th - 20th September, Lisbon sent to NANOG
Dear all Just a quick reminder that we still have some presentation slots available. Have a nice summer and see you in Lisbon Arnold On 10.04.2017 10:21, Arnold Nipper wrote: > Dear all, > > AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX, Netnod are happy to host the 12th European > Peering Forum (EPF) in Lisbon, Portugal from the 18th - 20st September > 2017. The event will welcome up to 300 peering managers and > coordinators from networks connected to the host Internet exchanges. > Besides an interesting topical agenda, the three-day event > accommodates room for attendees to meet on a one-to-one basis to > discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. > > The programme committee will be looking for presentations and > lightning talks related to peering and technical topics of > interconnection. Your presentation should address > > * Interconnection Automation > * Regional Peering > * Interconnection and Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory TopicS > * Economic and Product Trends > * Peering/Interconnection Strategy > * Interesting findings about peering > * 100GE and beyond > > > Submissions > === > > Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or > marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. > > Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme > committee <epf...@peering-forum.eu>. Please include: > > * Author's name and e-mail > * Presentation title > * Abstract > * Slides (if available) > * Time requested > > > Deadlines > = > > Presentation Abstract Deadline 17/07/2017 12:00 UTC > Final Selection of Speakers 28/07/2017 > Presentation Slides Submission Deadline 04/09/2017 12:00 UTC > > > More information about the event and other activities around EPF12 > may be found at https://peering-forum.eu/ > > Best regards, > Arnold > > On behalf of the EPF hosts > -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Call for presentations EPF12, 18th - 20th September, Lisbon sent to NANOG
Dear all, AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX, Netnod are happy to host the 12th European Peering Forum (EPF) in Lisbon, Portugal from the 18th - 20st September 2017. The event will welcome up to 300 peering managers and coordinators from networks connected to the host Internet exchanges. Besides an interesting topical agenda, the three-day event accommodates room for attendees to meet on a one-to-one basis to discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. The programme committee will be looking for presentations and lightning talks related to peering and technical topics of interconnection. Your presentation should address * Interconnection Automation * Regional Peering * Interconnection and Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory TopicS * Economic and Product Trends * Peering/Interconnection Strategy * Interesting findings about peering * 100GE and beyond Submissions === Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme committee <epf...@peering-forum.eu>. Please include: * Author's name and e-mail * Presentation title * Abstract * Slides (if available) * Time requested Deadlines = Presentation Abstract Deadline 17/07/2017 12:00 UTC Final Selection of Speakers 28/07/2017 Presentation Slides Submission Deadline 04/09/2017 12:00 UTC More information about the event and other activities around EPF12 may be found at https://peering-forum.eu/ Best regards, Arnold On behalf of the EPF hosts -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Interconnection Track
On 02.04.2017 01:59, Martin Hannigan wrote: > - Once and for all: Are IXP's as dead as some say? > The last time I heard "dead" it was spelled out: transit is dead ;-) Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: association between ASN and company name in ARIN region
On 30.03.2017 17:50, Martin T wrote: > Is it possible to make a similar connection between AS number and > company name in ARIN region? In other words, how do you find out that > company is eligible to use AS number? > This doesn't work for you? whois -h whois.arin.net as174 | egrep '^ASNumber|OrgName|Address|City|StateProv|PostalCode|Country' ASNumber: 174 OrgName:Cogent Communications Address:2450 N Street NW City: Washington StateProv: DC PostalCode: 20037 Country:US whois -h whois.arin.net as714 | egrep '^ASNumber|OrgName|Address|City|StateProv|PostalCode|Country' ASNumber: 714 OrgName:Apple Inc. Address:20400 Stevens Creek Blvd., City Center Bldg 3 City: Cupertino StateProv: CA PostalCode: 95014 Country:US And then lookup companies here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_company_registers#United_States Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de mobile: +49 172 2650958 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Reminder: PeeringDB Product Committee Charter Survey / NANOG
On 29.09.2016 21:52, Arnold Nipper wrote: > Hello PeeringDB users / hello NANOG, > > the PeeringDB Product Committee (PC, [0]) is charged with steering the > future product development and running the market outreach efforts to > continuously improve the value that PeeringDB delivers to the networks > registered with PeeringDB, and the broader community. > > We're looking for feedback and input from the community on our charter > proposal. Please take this short survey [1]. Your input and comments are > appreciated! > > > [0] http://docs.peeringdb.com/gov/ > [1] https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JN36DT2 > The survey is still open until 2016-10-28 23:59 UTC. Make up your mind. Tell us where you would like PeeringDB to go. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
PeeringDB Product Committee Charter Survey / NANOG
Hello PeeringDB users / hello NANOG, the PeeringDB Product Committee (PC, [0]) is charged with steering the future product development and running the market outreach efforts to continuously improve the value that PeeringDB delivers to the networks registered with PeeringDB, and the broader community. We're looking for feedback and input from the community on our charter proposal. Please take this short survey [1]. Your input and comments are appreciated! [0] http://docs.peeringdb.com/gov/ [1] https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JN36DT2 Greetings Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
On 17.06.2016 10:44, Fredrik Korsbäck wrote: > Last year i added 0 new IXPs, upgraded 0 IXPs, but i added over 30 > new PNI's. > > If IXPs wants more of those bits, adjusting prices much more > aggresively is what can bring this back to their market, instead of > the datacenter-crossconnect market. > Did you ever think about *who* brought in all the networks you are able to peer with? Seems to be really easy to bash IXPs. Seems to really hard to value what IXPs have done for the interconnection industry. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
On 15.06.2016 21:14, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 6/15/16 05:37, Mike Hammett wrote: >> I agree that the SIX is a fine organization, but the framework of >> the organization has little to do with the members getting screwed >> over. A non-profit donation-based IX that doesn't produce results >> could be screwing its "customers" over more than a MRC-based >> for-profit IX that does produce. > > > An IX just needs to "produce" a layer 2 peering fabric. That's not a > tall order to get results from. Anything beyond that is extra fluff. > Some people want to pay more for the fluff, some don't. > This is a *common* misunderstanding. The by far easiest part of running a successful IXP is the technical part. The more challenging is to build a community around it. And that's purely non technical and involves a lot of *social* networking and bringing people together. btdt Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
On 15.06.2016 20:23, Sander Steffann wrote: >> So here we are now... Where do we want to go? > > I think IXPs have indeed become too much like ISPs, providing more > services but also increasing complexity and cost. I prefer simple, > scalable and cheap solutions! > You all know this saying: Fast, Good or Cheap. Pick any two! > I want to go to an IXP being a nice simple ethernet switch. Add some > nice graphs and a route server, and we're done. Redundancy is a > separate switch :) > Unfortunately the IXP world - at least for the really big IXPs - is not longer that simple. Paradise was yesterday ;-) btdt Arnold -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Bogon ASN Filter Policy
On 03.06.2016 15:08, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > AT/as7018 is also now in the process of updating its as-path bogon > filters to match those cited below. We have long employed such > filters, and our changes at this time are primarily to extend them to > prohibit as23456 and the reserved blocks > as65535. > > So to Job and Adam and anyone else who deploys such filters: Thanks! > I would like to extend to you this laurel, and hearty handshake... > Well done, NTT, GTT, AT You may want to notice that most of the IXP around the world which operate route servers since long do strict filtering. Both on ASN as well as on prefixes. So it's really nice to see, that the big ISP take care as well now. As I have learnt yesterday at ENOG11 a way more challenging issue is to cope with route leaks. Cheers and cu in chi Arnold > > On 02-June-2016, Adam Davenport writes: > > I personally applaud this effort as initiatives like this that help > > prevent the global propagation of Bogons and other "bad things" only > > serves to help us all. With that said, notice went out to potentially > > affected GTT / AS3257 customers this week that by the end of June we too > > will be filtering prefixes that contain any of the Bogon ASNs listed > > below in the in the as-path. I highly encourage other networks to > > follow suit, as again it only helps us all. > > > > Thanks Job for kicking this one off, and I look forward to others to > > doing the same! > > > > Adam Davenport / adam.davenp...@gtt.net > > > > > > > > On 6/2/16 3:41 PM, Job Snijders wrote: > > > Dear fellow network operators, > > > > > > In July 2016, NTT Communications' Global IP Network AS2914 will deploy a > > > new routing policy to block Bogon ASNs from its view of the default-free > > > zone. This notification is provided as a courtesy to the network > > > community at large. > > > > > > After the Bogon ASN filter policy has been deployed, AS 2914 will not > > > accept route announcements from any eBGP neighbor which contains a Bogon > > > ASN anywhere in the AS_PATH or its atomic aggregate attribute. > > > > > > The reasoning behind this policy is twofold: > > > > > > - Private or Reserved ASNs have no place in the public DFZ. Barring > > >these from the DFZ helps improve accountability and dampen > > >accidental exposure of internal routing artifacts. > > > > > > - All AS2914 devices support 4-byte ASNs. Any occurrence of "23456" > > >in the DFZ is a either a misconfiguration or software issue. > > > > > > We are undertaking this effort to improve the quality of routing data as > > > part of the global ecosystem. This should improve the security posture > > > and provide additional certainty [1] to those undertaking network > > > troubleshooting. > > > > > > Bogon ASNs are currently defined as following: > > > > > > 0 # Reserved RFC7607 > > > 23456 # AS_TRANS RFC6793 > > > 64496-64511 # Reserved for use in docs and code RFC5398 > > > 64512-65534 # Reserved for Private Use RFC6996 > > > 65535 # Reserved RFC7300 > > > 65536-65551 # Reserved for use in docs and code RFC5398 > > > 65552-131071# Reserved > > > 42-4294967294 # Reserved for Private Use RFC6996 > > > 4294967295 # Reserved RFC7300 > > > > > > A current overview of what are considered Bogon ASNs is maintained at > > > NTT's Routing Policies page [2]. The IANA Autonomous System Number > > > Registry [3] is closely tracked and the NTT Bogon ASN definitions are > > > updated accordingly. > > > > > > We encourage network operators to consider deploying similar policies. > > > Configuration examples for various platforms can be found here [4]. > > > > > > NTT staff is monitoring current occurrences of Bogon ASNs in the routing > > > system and reaching out to impacted parties on a weekly basis. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Job > > > > > > Contact persons: > > > > > > Job Snijders <j...@ntt.net>, Jared Mauch <jma...@us.ntt.net>, > > > NTT Communications NOC <n...@ntt.net> > > > > > > References: > > > [1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-00 > > > [2]: http://www.us.ntt.net/support/policy/routing.cfm#bogon > > > [3]: https://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.xhtml > > > [4]: http://as2914.net/bogon_asns/configuration_examples.txt > -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: NOC AS1836 green.ch AG
On 03.05.2016 20:05, Marco Paesani wrote: > I need direct contact with NOC of AS1836. > Can you help me ? Have a look at PeeringDB [0], Marco! Ciao, Arnold [0] https://peeringdb.com/net/232 -- Arnold Nipper email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Call for presentations EPF 10
Call for Presentations European Peering Forum 10 AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX, Netnod and guest IXP Equinix, are happy to host the 10th European Peering Forum (EPF) in Madrid, Spain from the 21st till the 23th of September 2015. The event will welcome up to 250 peering managers and coordinators from networks connected to the host Internet exchanges. Besides an interesting topical agenda, the three-day event accommodates room for attendees to meet on a one-to-one basis to discuss bilateral peering business opportunities. The programme committee will be looking for presentations and lightning talks related to peering and technical topics of interconnection. Your presentation should address * Interconnection Automation * Regional Peering * Interconnection and Peering Internet Governance and Regulatory Topics * Economic and Product Trends * Peering/Interconnection Strategy * Interesting findings about peering * 100GE Submissions === Presentations must be of a non-commercial nature. Product or marketing heavy talks are strongly discouraged. Submissions of presentations should be made to the programme committee epf...@peering-forum.eu. Please include: * Author's name and e-mail * Presentation title * Abstract * Slides (if available) * Time requested Deadlines = Presentation Abstract Deadline 2015-07-20 12:00 UTC Final Selection of Speakers 2015-07-31 Presentation Slides Submission Deadline 2015-09-04 12:00 UTC -- Arnold Nipper CTO/COO and Co-Founder DE-CIX Management GmbH | Lindleystrasse 12 | 60314 Frankfurt am Main | Germany | www.de-cix.net | Phone +49 69 1730902 22 | Mobile +49 172 2650958 | Fax +49 69 4056 2716 | arnold.nip...@de-cix.net | Geschaeftsfuehrer Harald A. Summa | Registergericht AG Koeln HRB 51135 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer 0)
On 11.12.2014 01:33, Phil Bedard wrote: Curious what the use case is where a photonic or L1 switch wouldn't get the job done? Just a matter of costs, Phil. Of course a photonic switch would also do th job. But I neither need the speed of switching over nor all the other features a photonic switch offers. Makes sense? Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer 0)
I'm looking for a modular, cost-effective automatic / intelligent fibre optic patch panel. I'm not looking at these photonic x-connects, but really for something which does the patching instead of a technician. TIA Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer 0)
Am 2014-12-10 00:36, schrieb Andrew Jones: http://www.laser2000.de/out/media/glimmerglass_system_100%281%29.pdf Thank you, Andrew ... while Glimmerglass is really an exciting and excdellent system, these devices are exactly those photonic cross connects I'm _not_ looking for :9 On 10.12.2014 10:21, Arnold Nipper wrote: I'm looking for a modular, cost-effective automatic / intelligent fibre optic patch panel. I'm not looking at these photonic x-connects, but really for something which does the patching instead of a technician. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer 0)
Am 2014-12-10 00:58, schrieb Matthew Crocker: Are you looking for a robot to install your fiber jumpers between patch panels? Exactly ... Something like: http://telescent.com/tswitch.php ... like this, Matthew. Do you know Telescent systems? On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Arnold Nipper arn...@nipper.de wrote: Am 2014-12-10 00:36, schrieb Andrew Jones: http://www.laser2000.de/out/media/glimmerglass_system_100%281%29.pdf Thank you, Andrew ... while Glimmerglass is really an exciting and excdellent system, these devices are exactly those photonic cross connects I'm _not_ looking for :9 On 10.12.2014 10:21, Arnold Nipper wrote: I'm looking for a modular, cost-effective automatic / intelligent fibre optic patch panel. I'm not looking at these photonic x-connects, but really for something which does the patching instead of a technician. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Contact for Hetzner AS24940 and Host Europe AS20773?
On 20.08.2013 22:54, bottiger wrote: Anyone know of any contacts for Hetzner AS24940 and Host Europe AS20773? whois -h whois.peeringdb.com AS24940 | grep ^Technical Technical NOC n...@hetzner.de +49 911 234226 0 whois -h whois.peeringdb.com AS20773 | grep ^Technical Technical Malte von dem Hagen m...@hosteurope.de Technical Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Strict route filtering at IX?
On 12.12.2012 12:22, Dan Luedtke wrote: So, here's the question: How do you filter at exchanges? Afaik BCP is to not prefix- as-path/origing-filtering well maintained routeservers at an IXP but simply put in max prefix limits. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: In Need of 10GbE Optics @AMS4
On 18.11.2012 05:00, Pete Ashdown wrote: I don't have the quantity you need, but this reminded me that I'm in need of a reliable supplier of CWDM 40KM XFP 10GbE optics. Specifically 1310nm, but I'll need other wavelengths soon. These things seem to be manufactured by elves. I can't find a reliable supplier anywhere. Can anyone help? try http://www.cubeoptics.com/en/ ... well established since years, not only selling transceivers but also manufacturing muxes and other opticals stuff. If you need a contact let me know. If anyone is in need of DWDM 40km XFP next year, I have hundreds of them available Best regards Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 152 53717690 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited
On 22.08.2012 11:22, John Souter wrote: On 22/08/12 06:19, Hank Nussbacher wrote: ...Any feedback appreciated. I can't speak too highly of BIRD. Our use case is probably not completely typical, but our multilateral peering route servers have been hugely improved by switching to BIRD. Our two primary route servers, one for each LINX London LAN, use BIRD; the two secondaries use an enhanced version of Quagga. The BIRD route server scales better, gives much higher performance, is much more robust, and is much easier to restart - especially when there are lots of connected sessions. The development team are fantastic: very active and responsive, and especially responsive to the needs of the IXP community. Switching hats to Euro-IX, BIRD is now the most used route server amongst IXPs, as can be seen from our latest annual report: https://www.euro-ix.net/documents/1024-Euro-IX-IXP-Report-pdf?download=yes +1 ... I guess we at DE-CIX perhaps run the largest routeserver setups with full as-path and prefix-list filtering. BIRD really was some magnitudes of perfomance improvement compared to Quagga. In the meantime some of us (LINX, INEX, DE-CIX) also supported development of Quagga as a routeserver. Biggest issue currently is to get this code into mainline Quagga to make it suitabke for further development and improvement. Personally I would like to see more work on all three opensource implementations, i.e. BIRD, OpenBGPd and Quagga. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper CTO/COO e-mail: arnold.nip...@de-cix.net DE-CIX Management GmbH mobile: +49 152 5371 7690 Lichtstr. 43i, 50825 Koeln phone: +49 69 1730 902 22 Geschaeftsfuehrer Harald A. Summa fax:+49 69 4056 2716 Registergericht AG Koeln HRB 51135 http://www.de-cix.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Netvision.net.il contact
on 02.08.2011 19:28 Tony McCrory wrote: Does anyone have a contact for Netvision's NOC? Can't get any response from n...@netvision.co.il, and they're causing me some operational issues. whois -h whois.peeringdb.com as1680 | egrep 'Role|NOC' Role Name E-Mail Phone NOCNMCC n...@013netvision.co.il +972-3-9001133 Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 152 53717690 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OOB
on 26.07.2011 16:25 Cameron Byrne wrote: On Jul 26, 2011 6:57 AM, harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious what is the best practice for OOB for a core infrastructure environment. Obviously, there is an OOB kit for customer managed devices via POTS, Ethernet, etc ... And there is OOB for core infrastructure typically a separate basic network that utilizes diverse carrier and diverse path when available. My question is, is it best practice to extend an inband VPN throughout for device management functions as well? And are all management services performed OOB, e.g network management, some monitoring, logging, authentication, flowdata, etc . If a management VPN is used is it also extended to managed customer devices? What else is can be done for remote management and troubleshooting capabilities? IMHO, it is always a good idea to have completely different infrastructure supporting Oob. Fully acked, but with every service migrating to IP how do you make sure that the oob infrastructure is completely different from your production network? Best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 152 53717690 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Top-posting
on 12.04.2011 08:45 Michael DeMan wrote: Generally what I see is that younger people who grew up using email when they were children desire to bottom post or post inline whereas folks that originally utilized email primarily to communicate technical information only generally prefer to top-post. I would say, it's just the other way round. Just my .02€ Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 152 53717690 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Internet Issues in Europe Tonight?
on 23.02.2011 00:59 Ryan Gelobter wrote: Does anyone have some detailed information about the internet issues going on in Sweden and other parts of Europe right now? I've read some reports about a large Telia outage in Sweden indicating a fault somewhere in Frankfurt or London as the cause. A partner network just reported about Telia having problems with a router in Frankfurt. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 152 53717690 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: C/D[WDM]
On 22.12.2010 15:31 Danijel wrote This should fit the pricerange: http://www.cubeoptics.com/passive_components.php Haven't used them yet but know of one local operator that is using them and is very satisfied... We are using a couple of CUBO's passive DWDM muxes @ DE-CIX. Work like a charm. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 152 53717690 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?
On 13.09.2010 18:52 Tim Franklin wrote Exactly like electricity and gas - I only have one set of wires / pipes to my house, but there's a plethora of companies I can choose to buy energy services from. Sounds like paradise to me. Just my 0.02€, Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: South Africa network issues
On 25.04.2010 14:46 Mehmet Akcin wrote Anyone experiencing connectivity problems to South African networks at this moment? A fellow colleague informed SEACOM cable which is serving east Africa seems to be down. Let me know if you have more information on this subject. gone? (server1:2010 122 )date -u Sun Apr 25 13:02:02 UTC 2010 (server1:2010 123 )fping -q -c5 symmetria.tenet.ac.za symmetria.tenet.ac.za : xmt/rcv/%loss = 5/4/20%, min/avg/max = 1050/1058/1068 Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: PeeringDB contact
Hi Patrick, On 20.04.2010 14:14 Patrick Sumby wrote Could someone from PeeringDB contact me off-list please. Or if anyone has any contact details other than the supp...@peeringdb.com address that would be much appreciated. does supp...@peeringdb.com not work for you? Best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: PeeringDB contact
Patrick (et al.) On 20.04.2010 15:04 Patrick Sumby wrote Sadly not, I've sent a number of emails to supp...@peeringdb.com and had no reply :( which is why I'm here! if you run into the same problem pls feel free to contact anyone listed as peeringDB admin (see e.g. http://www.menog.net/sites/default/files/e-an-20100414-peeringdb.pdf for names) @Patrick: please provide some msg-id's to us. Best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 10GBase-t switch
On 11.03.2010 16:29 Dylan Ebner wrote Do the Arista switches support netflow? From a management perspective netflow can be vital. This is something we have been unhappy with on our 3560 and 3750 cisco's. They don't (yet). Given you buy enoughboxes, Arista may be willing to implement this feature. Would like to have this as well. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: BIRD vs Quagga
On 13.02.2010 02:01 Nathan Ward wrote On 13/02/2010, at 11:51 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: fwiw, I've also heard good things about bgpd(8) and ospfd(8), but I haven't tried those either...zebra/Quagga just stuck. OpenBGPd would be great for a public route server at an IX. Be cautious when doing filtering. bgpctl will hang for minutes, even hours. Otherwise OpenBGPD seems to be very performant. Quagga does not really behave well with lots of peers (lots 200), but there will be an optimized route server version soon. BIRD seems to do fine. Best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: EU elections - piratenpartei.net censored
On 08.06.2009 00:16 Peter Dambier wrote right during the election the website piratenpartei.net of the german pirates party gets censored by the hoster. really censored. Do you know why alfahosting.info turned down the site? alfahosting.info Good advertising, isn't it? Interestingly enough their website is down too. Afraid of emails I guess. try http://www.piratenpartei.de/ instead. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: two interfaces one subnet
On 11.05.2009 23:47 Patrick W. Gilmore wrote On May 11, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Alex H. Ryu wrote: It may be allowed from host-level, but from router equipment, I don't think it was allowed at all. Ever used HSRP / VRRP? Two interfaces in the same subnet. Works fine. In fact, most people think it works _better_ than one interface in the same subnet. I guess you are mixing interfaces with IPs now. Don't you? Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IXP
On 24.04.2009 03:48 Paul Vixie wrote Bill Woodcock wo...@pch.net writes: ... Nobody's arguing against VLANs. Paul's argument was that VLANs rendered shared subnets obsolete, and everybody else has been rebutting that. Not saying that VLANs shouldn't be used. i think i saw several folks, not just stephen, say virtual wire was how they'd do an IXP today if they had to start from scratch. i know that for many here, starting from scratch isn't a reachable worldview, and so i've tagged most of the defenses of shared subnets with that caveat. the question i was answering was from someone starting from scratch, and when starting an IXP from scratch, a shared subnet would be just crazy talk. I like to disagree here, Paul. Best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IXP
On 19.04.2009 19:43 Chris Caputo wrote On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Nick Hilliard wrote: - ruthless and utterly fascist enforcement of one mac address per port, using either L2 ACLs or else mac address counting, with no exceptions for any reason, ever. This is probably the single more important stability / security enforcement mechanism for any IXP. Well, as long as it simply drops packets and doesn't shut the port or some other fascist enforcement. We've had AMSIX complain that our Cisco 12k with E5 linecard was spitting out a few tens of packets per day during two months with random source mac addresses. Started suddenly, stopped suddenly. It's ok for them to drop the packets, but not shut the port in a case like that. From the IX operator perspective it is important to immediately shut down a port showing a packet from an extra MAC address, rather than just silently dropping them. We (DE-CIX) simply nail each MAC statically to the customer port and allow traffic from these statically configured MAC addresses to enter the switch fabric. Initially this was done as a workaround as the F10 boxes didn't support port-security. Meanwhile we think this is the best way to handle MAC management. As a benefit there is no need to shut down customer ports when frames from additional MACs arrive. These are simply ignored. Works really great for us. YMMV. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IXP
On 19.04.2009 01:38 Randy Bush wrote just curious. has anyone tried arista for smallish exchanges, before jumping off the cliff into debugging extreme, foundry, ... last time I look at them their products lacked port security or anything similiar. whoops! Iirc it's on the roadmap for thier next generation of switches. bummer, as performance and per-port cost are certainly tasty. Indeed ... Afaik low latency is due to the fact that Arista boxes are doing cut through. Pricewise they are very attractive. And Arista EOS actually is more or less a full blown Linux which allows you to do _really_ tricky things. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IXP
On 18.04.2009 21:51 Sharlon R. Carty wrote I have been looking at ams-ix and linx, even some african internet exchanges as examples. But seeing how large they are(ams-x linx) and we are in the startup phase, I would rather have some tips/examples from anyone who has been doing IXP for quite awhile. So far all the responses have been very helpful. Do what Nick suggested and you will run a real safe IXP. Nick knows how to do that. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IXP
On 19.04.2009 01:08 Randy Bush wrote just curious. has anyone tried arista for smallish exchanges, before jumping off the cliff into debugging extreme, foundry, ... last time I look at them their products lacked port security or anything similiar. Iirc it's on the roadmap for thier next generation of switches. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IXP
On 17.04.2009 20:52 Paul Vixie wrote with the advent of vlan tags, the whole idea of CSMA for IXP networks is passe. just put each pair of peers into their own private tagged vlan and let one of them allocate a V4 /30 and a V6 /64 for it. as a bonus, this prevents third party BGP (which nobody really liked which sometimes got turned on by mistake) and prevents transit dumping and/or pointing default at someone. the IXP no longer needs any address space, they're just a VPN provider. shared-switch connections are just virtual crossconnects. Large IXP have 300 customers. You would need up to 45k vlan tags, wouldn't you? Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IXP
On 17.04.2009 21:04 kris foster wrote On Apr 17, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Arnold Nipper wrote: On 17.04.2009 20:52 Paul Vixie wrote with the advent of vlan tags, the whole idea of CSMA for IXP networks is passe. just put each pair of peers into their own private tagged vlan and let one of them allocate a V4 /30 and a V6 /64 for it. as a bonus, this prevents third party BGP (which nobody really liked which sometimes got turned on by mistake) and prevents transit dumping and/or pointing default at someone. the IXP no longer needs any address space, they're just a VPN provider. shared-switch connections are just virtual crossconnects. Large IXP have 300 customers. You would need up to 45k vlan tags, wouldn't you? QinQ could solve this not really -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IXP
On 17.04.2009 23:06 Paul Vixie wrote Large IXP have 300 customers. You would need up to 45k vlan tags, wouldn't you? the 300-peer IXP's i've been associated with weren't quite full mesh in terms of who actually wanted to peer with whom, so, no. Much depends on your definition of quite. Would 30% qualify? Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IXP
On 18.04.2009 00:04 Paul Vixie wrote the 300-peer IXP's i've been associated with weren't quite full mesh in terms of who actually wanted to peer with whom, so, no. Much depends on your definition of quite. Would 30% qualify? 30% would be an over-the-top success. has anybody ever run out of 1Q tags in an IXP context? Why? You only need 1 ;-) Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IPv6 bogons/unallocated space list?
On 07.08.2008 23:28 Deepak Jain wrote Is there such a beast yet? I didn't see anything on the CYMRU page (so its either completely obvious, or not there). Given the shrinking use of IPv4 bogon lists and the increasing need of a well-updated IPv6 one, I figured I'd ask. http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html should be fairly up to date. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper, AN45 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
