Re: Finish Line/JD Sports Contact

[Chris Gross]

Got a contact, delisted and found a local contact we had too, thank you 
everyone.

Chris Gross
NineStar Connect


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Subject: Finish Line/JD Sports Contact

Does anyone have a contact from Finish Line/JD Sports or someone that can 
resolve a block issue reach out to me please? Seems my whole AS is being 
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Does anyone have a contact from Finish Line/JD Sports or someone that can 
resolve a block issue reach out to me please? Seems my whole AS is being 
blocked by their configured Akamai filtering.



Chris Gross

Finish Line/JD Sports Contact

[Chris Gross]

Does anyone have a contact from Finish Line/JD Sports or someone that can 
resolve a block issue reach out to me please? Seems my whole AS is being 
blocked by their configured Akamai filtering.

Chris Gross

RE: IPv6 Prefix Delegation to customers.

[Chris Gross]

In my environment I've been running Kea dhcp6 against Ciscos of varying 
platform (7600, ASR920, etc) and just them as a relay. In this case, the Cisco 
itself is installing a route as it snoops the relay action automatically. This 
was one of the harder things to wrap my head around before just slapping it in 
to see what happened and bam, routes. Router gets a WAN IP from the loopback 
via DHCPv6 as well, then gets PD assigned after.

interface Loopback10
vrf forwarding CGNAT
no ip address
ipv6 address 2001:DB8::1/64
!
interface Vlan
vrf forwarding CGNAT
ip address 100.64.Y.Z 255.255.252.0
ip helper-address global 10.0.Y.Z
ip helper-address global 10.0.Y.Z
ip flow ingress
load-interval 30
ipv6 address FE80::1 link-local
ipv6 enable
ipv6 nd router-preference High
ipv6 dhcp relay destination 2001:DB8:0:A::BEEF source-address 2001:DB8:YZ01::1
ipv6 dhcp relay destination 2001:DB8:0:B::BEEF source-address 2001:DB8:YZ01::1

S   2001:DB8:YZ00:3F00::/56 [1/0]
 via FE80::4665:7FFF:FE14:EDC2, Vlan

Chris Gross
Network Architect

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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:01 PM
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Subject: IPv6 Prefix Delegation to customers.

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Hey Nanog,

I am in the process of building out a FTTH proof of concept, and I would really 
like to offer each of my customers a /48 of IPv6.
I've been able to announce my /32 to my upstreams, dual-stack all of my 
internal infrastructure no-problem, build v6 recursive name servers, etc.
This was fairly straight-forward.

Where I am struggling is the Prefix Delegation part. How are most folks getting 
the PD subnets into their IGPs? In my environment I don't run the DHCP server 
process on the router that is directly connected to the clients. I have seen 
documentation that cisco and juniper DHCPv6 processes are smart enough to 
insert that prefix into the routing table when they hand it out, but how is 
this handled in an environment with a central DHCP server? I do not currently 
run any PPPOE in my environment and I don't use RADIUS for the subscriber 
management. I would really just like to stick to DHCP ideally.

If anyone has any pointers, I would appreciate it.

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RE: sfps from fs dot com

[Chris Gross]

Biggest issue I've seen is it may work on some Cisco models and not others. I 
got their flashing box to just reflash the firmware and that has fixed even 
"dead" optics.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Nicholas Warren
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:32 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: sfps from fs dot com

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Anyone have experience with fs.com's lasers? Are they reliable?

RE: fs.com dwdm equipment

[Chris Gross]

For managing them, do you use the actual software they ship with it? When I 
last checked, it requires a MSSQL instance with hard coded “sa” user access 
which was an immediate no go for me. I still have them sitting in a box in our 
lab as a teaching aid really.

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Michel Blais
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 4:56 PM
To: Samir Rana 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: fs.com dwdm equipment

I tryed SFP, MUX, DEMUX and OADM, all working as expected.
Le dim. 17 févr. 2019 19 h 18, Samir Rana 
mailto:samir.r...@cybera.ca>> a écrit :
Hello All,

Does anybody have experience with 
fs.com
 dwdm equipment in their production environment? Are you they working without 
any issue? How's their warranty support if the issue arises?

Thanks in advance for all the answers and help.

Re: Last Mile Design

[Chris Gross]

For a lot of us, PONs are a way of life and may not even have any 100G capable 
devices in our network, muchless enough to make our money on. While you may be 
so "lucky" to "never really take it seriously", it is supporting hundreds of 
thousands, if not millions, of homes in the US.

PON is the lifeblood if many rural communities. I'm luckily to have a healthy 
mix of PON and AE operations since I'm located next to cities. But I've met 
cooperatives in the middle of no where with super low density where it's 6 
people + 2 donkeys on staff. AE would never work there, but PONs allow them 
cheap and available broadband options.

Unless someone wants to give enough funding to run AE to people's homes, PONs 
will continue to allow many communities to have more than cellular internet 
access options, if that.

This email has been sent from my phone. Please excuse any brevity, typos, or 
lack of formality.

From: Aaron 
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 16:03
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Last Mile Design

My statement was meant to be tongue in cheek.  We deliver 1G to the home
free of charge and make our money on the 10,40 and 100G connections.  We
haven't been able to deliver those capacities over PON so we've never
really taken it seriously.  As with everything else, you're use case and
economics may vary.

Aaron


On 2/8/2019 2:31 PM, Tony Wicks wrote:
> It also significantly reduces the requirement to distribute active equipment 
> into the field while massively reducing the feeder fibre requirement. Point 
> to point has its place to be sure, but mass market FTTH is not viable without 
> PON's economics.
>
>
> On 02/08/2019 12:48 PM, Aaron wrote:
>> I've always felt PON is a tool for people who don't know how to design a
>> proper network.
> Why is that?
>
> I always thought PON was a technology that reduced the number of active
> ports, thus altering the port cost per subscriber significantly by not
> actually needing dedicated ports.
>
>
>

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RE: A few GPON questions...

[Chris Gross]

How to deploy with Zhone is to put it in the garbage. I have more than enough 
horror stories from the provider side of things and enough of their TAC 
literally screaming at me because I called out of regular hours how my problems 
are physical fiber issues when it never is. They’ve also caused an 18 hour 
outage “Just trying to do some quick database cleanup” which worked, if you 
count wiping it as cleaning. Their GUI for ZMS is awful and their TAC doesn’t 
even know how to use it. It’s effectively a dead product. Their #1 issue has 
always been their support but nothing ever seems to improve and I saw a lot of 
support managers keep rotating in and out while their actual engineers ever 
changed back when I paid attention.

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Nick Bogle
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 10:19 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: A few GPON questions...

Hello fellow NANOG members :)

Let me start with a little bit of background, my day job is a Network Engineer 
for a local university where we have primarily a Cisco environment from phones 
to switching to routing, etc. Before my time, we hired a contractor to design a 
GPON LAN system for a new building as a cost saving measure (though I am not 
sure how successful that was).

Either way, the contractor is about to hand the system off to us, and we have 
gone through the training and such, and I feel confident in my ability to 
manage the system, but we have a few questions that the manufacturer of our 
equipment and our contractor didn't really want to answer. We are currently 
using a Dasan Zhone MXK-F1419 with several different downstream ONT models (all 
Zhone).

-We would like to consider use of 3rd party GPON B+ Optics on the linecards to 
add redundancy to the splitter (as the cost of 1st party are too high). Does 
anyone have experience with 3rd party vendors/compatibility/stability issues? 
We were told they theoretically should work and just throw a log event, but it 
hasn't been tested. If so, what vendors would you recommend? So far all we've 
really seen are Ubiquiti and Fiberstore optics.

-As GPON is a standard itself, I'm aware interoperability between OLT and ONT 
vendors is heavily limited.. Does anyone have any experience using say, Zhone 
ONT's with a different model OLT, or Zhone ONT's with a different model OLT? 
I've heard word that Zhone ONT's may be able to work with Nokia OLT's but it's 
technically not supported.

-We've already experienced some pretty big stability issues (have replaced 1 
line card 5 times..), our contractor is saying it's just because we were a 
pretty early adopter of this line and that they've fixed it and fixed internal 
policies to add additional QA and testing before shipping to customers. Does 
anyone have any experience with working with Zhone and their overall stability 
of components?

- Any other thoughts/gotchas/advice for deploying a GPON environment in a 
corporate LAN? (or about deploying a Zhone solution) It's pretty service 
provider oriented, and is incredible noticeable in the CLI.

Feel free to contact me offlist if you have any pertinent info that you don't 
want on the list.

Thanks,

Nick Bogle
n...@bogle.se

Re: Google Captcha

[Chris Gross]

Im going with the corporate greed/free labor angle. Perhaps they need more 
training data for their cars and figure a couple small ISP/businesses worth of 
people is worth flipping over temporarily?

This email has been sent from my phone. Please excuse any brevity, typos, or 
lack of formality.

From: Selphie Keller 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 17:20
To: li...@mtin.net
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Google Captcha

Yeah google captcha is fun, I trigger this all the time when relentlessly 
searching for something, ironically I giggle at the idea that my searching is 
so extreme it's classified as a bot at times.

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 10:32, Justin Wilson 
mailto:li...@mtin.net>> wrote:
In the experience of the community what causes the “Unusual traffic” messages 
when doing google searches? This ISP network hands out public IP addresses to 
each and every customer. No batting going on.  Does Google typically drop 
entire /24’s into this if they see an issue?  The initial troubleshooting we 
have done involves disconnecting the customer router and going direct with a 
laptop.  Still the same captcha.  We clock “I am not a robot” and the search 
goes through, but it re-appaers the next search.

Looking for a direction to look.  What typically causes this? I know what the 
page says, but looking for specifics.

Thanks


Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

www.mtin.net
www.midwest-ix.com

RE: Proving Gig Speed

[Chris Gross]

Winner winner chicken dinner. I forgot to pull "Antivirus is at fault" card 
from my deck. 250/675 with it installed, 920/920 when removed so now I get to 
pass the the issue onwards.

Thanks everyone for your replies and the responses for the adolfintel/speedtest 
github, I'll definitely look at it as a replacement for later.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Erculiani  
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:17 PM
To: Chris Gross 
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group 
Subject: Re: Proving Gig Speed

We use Iperf3 for customers that complain about throughput, it's relatively low 
overhead compared to the Ookla HTML5 client. Same scenario as you, we have the 
tech hook up their laptop to the customer's drop and perform testing. I suspect 
your antivirus may be attempting to perform real-time inspection on the http(s) 
traffic, which would crush the little laptop CPU for sure.

Message me off-list and I'll send you a private Iperf3 server IP to test with.

-Matt

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Chris Gross  
wrote:
> I'm curious what people here have found as a good standard for providing 
> solid speedtest results to customers. All our techs have Dell laptops of 
> various models, but we always hit 100% CPU when doing a Ookla speedtest for a 
> server we have on site. So then if you have a customer paying for 600M or 
> 1000M symmetric, they get mad and demand you prove it's full speed. At that 
> point we have to roll out different people with JDSU's to test and prove it's 
> functional where a Ookla result would substitute fine if we didn't have 
> crummy laptops possibly. Even though from what I can see on some google 
> results, we exceed the standards several providers call for.
>
> Most of these complaints come from the typical "power" internet user of 
> course that never actually uses more than 50M sustained paying for a 
> residential connection, so running a circuit test on each turn up is uncalled 
> for.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions of the requirements (CPU/RAM/etc) for a laptop 
> that can actually do symmetric gig, a rugged small inexpensive device we can 
> roll with instead to prove, or any other weird solution involving ritual 
> sacrifice that isn't too offensive to the eyes?

Proving Gig Speed

[Chris Gross]

I'm curious what people here have found as a good standard for providing solid 
speedtest results to customers. All our techs have Dell laptops of various 
models, but we always hit 100% CPU when doing a Ookla speedtest for a server we 
have on site. So then if you have a customer paying for 600M or 1000M 
symmetric, they get mad and demand you prove it's full speed. At that point we 
have to roll out different people with JDSU's to test and prove it's functional 
where a Ookla result would substitute fine if we didn't have crummy laptops 
possibly. Even though from what I can see on some google results, we exceed the 
standards several providers call for.

Most of these complaints come from the typical "power" internet user of course 
that never actually uses more than 50M sustained paying for a residential 
connection, so running a circuit test on each turn up is uncalled for.

Anyone have any suggestions of the requirements (CPU/RAM/etc) for a laptop that 
can actually do symmetric gig, a rugged small inexpensive device we can roll 
with instead to prove, or any other weird solution involving ritual sacrifice 
that isn't too offensive to the eyes?

RE: Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 public DNS broken w/ AT CPE

[Chris Gross]

That sounds like a provider problem with their configuration most likely. I run 
hundreds of 844E, 844Gs and have one at my house even, and it continues out 
fine for 1.1.1.1 when I was testing over the weekend with our config.

Chris Gross
IP Services Supervisor

-Original Message-
From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 11:03 AM
To: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 public DNS broken w/ AT CPE

I am behind a Calix router at home for my ISP and 1.1.1.1 goes to my router and 
not any further. When I enter the IP into my browser, it opens the login page 
for my router. So it appears 1.1.1.1 is used as a loopback in my Calix router.

1.0.0.1 goes to the proper place fine.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Jeremy L. Gaddis <lists-na...@gadd.is>
wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> If anyone at 7018 wants to pass a message along to the correct folks, 
> please let them know that Cloudflare's new public DNS service 
> (1.1.1.1) is completely unusable for at least some of AT's customers.
>
> There is apparently a bug with some CPE (including the 5268AC). From 
> behind such CPE, the services at 1.1.1.1 are completely unreachable, 
> whether via (ICMP) ping, DNS, or HTTPS.
>
> Using the 5268AC's web-based diagnostic tools, pinging 1.1.1.1 returns 
> the following results:
>
>   ping successful: icmp seq:0, time=2.364 ms
>   ping successful: icmp seq:1, time=1.085 ms
>   ping successful: icmp seq:2, time=1.160 ms
>   ping successful: icmp seq:3, time=1.245 ms
>   ping successful: icmp seq:4, time=0.739 ms
>
> RTTs to the CPE's default gateway are, at minimum, ~20 ms.
>
> A traceroute (using the same web-based diagnostic tool built-in to the
> CPE) reports, simply:
>
>   traceroute 1.1.1.1 with: 64 bytes of data
>
>   1: 1.1.1.1(1dot1dot1dot1.cloudflare-dns.com), time=0 ms
>
> I haven't bothered to report this to AT through the standard 
> customer support channels (for reasons that should be obvious to 
> anyone who has ever called AT's consumer/residential technical 
> support) but if anyone at AT wants to pass the info along to the 
> appropriate group, it would certainly be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> -Jeremy
>
> --
> Jeremy L. Gaddis
>
>
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> $0. If you want them to accept your mail and manage it the way you 
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>
>


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Re: cgnat - how do you handle customer issues

[Chris Gross]

I utilize A10 CGNAT that allows dynamic NAT logging, since we're in a similar 
boat of utilization.

This email has been sent from my phone. Please excuse any brevity, typos, or 
lack of formality.

From: Aaron Gould 
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 12:54
To: 'Michael Crapse'; 'Mike Hammett'
Cc: 'NANOG list'
Subject: RE: cgnat - how do you handle customer issues

Thanks



For #2 – what if the ports allocated aren’t enough for the amount of inet 
traffic the customer site uses ?  …is the customer denied service based on 
insufficient port range ?  …or are they assigned another block within that some 
ip’s range of I think it’s 0-64k or 1025-64k… but how far can you take that 
before there aren’t anymore port blocks left on that single ip ?  …and if you 
have to allocate that customer another port block from a *different* ip, then 
we are in the situation of the bank website not liking the fact that the 
session is bouncing to a different ip maybe ?



- Aaron



From: Michael Crapse [mailto:mich...@wi-fiber.io]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 11:19 AM
To: Mike Hammett
Cc: Aaron Gould; NANOG list
Subject: Re: cgnat - how do you handle customer issues



For number 2, I'm a fan of what mike suggests. I believe the technical term is 
MAP-T.
For number 1, anyone who wants one, gets one. We provide free public static IP 
to any customer who asks for one. Another solution, using above solution is to 
ask them which ports they need, and forward those to them using a port within 
their assign range. i.e. teach them how to access their home web server using a 
different port(say 32424, or similar). This won't solve all the issues, which 
is why we use solution 1.



On 27 February 2018 at 09:32, Mike Hammett  wrote:

I'm a fan of nailing each customer IP to a particular range of ports on a given 
public IP. Real easy to track who did what and to prevent shifting IPs.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

- Original Message -

From: "Aaron Gould" 
To: Nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:30:21 AM
Subject: cgnat - how do you handle customer issues


Couple questions please. When you put thousands of customers behind a cgnat
boundary, how do you all handle customer complaints about the following.



1 - for external connectivity to the customers premise devices, not being
able to access web servers, web cameras, etc, in their premises?



2 - from the premise natted device, when customers go to a university or
bank web site, how do you handle randomly changing ip addresses/ports that
may occur due to idle time and session tear-down in nat table such that the
bank website has issues with seeing your session ip change?





-Aaron

Craigslist Blocks

[Chris Gross]

Is there anyone from Craigslist here or anyone have a better way to deal with 
their blocks? There's a contact e-mail in the block messages when trying to 
visit, but there's never gets a response back when we try it. Please hit me up 
off list.

RE: 60 Hudson Woes

[Chris Gross]

I feel the issue here is people are already paying for support contracts and 
vendors to come on site. Now there's the additional incurred cost for remote 
hands to handle it.

If it's a situation where it's replacing a person of my internal staff to act 
on it, sure. But if I'm paying Dell to come in and do hardware work anyway but 
they can't get in, I don't want to pay that extra forced cost.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Dovid Bender
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:50 AM
To: James Stankiewicz 
Cc: NANOG 
Subject: Re: 60 Hudson Woes

What about remote hands? What I like about DR is their staff levels and 
resources should there be a storm etc. they are fully staff. I rarely use their 
remote hands but when I do they are golden. They also have a great record.

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:21 AM, James Stankiewicz 
wrote:

> Halsey Street is outstanding,,great staff and is the place to be!!
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Brian Knight 
> wrote:
>
> > As the engineer working on that Cisco / IBM issue Erik mentioned... 
> > ;)
> >
> > I was able to get walk-up, same-day access to the building for 
> > myself a few weeks ago (as a customer of DR) and didn’t get my hand 
> > slapped for
> it.
> > DR just created the access ticket with the building and that was enough.
> It
> > took about 20 minutes start to finish.
> >
> > But if a vendor tech needs access, they need a COI generated, and 
> > that must be sent to the building ahead of time via DR. Otherwise 
> > they will be turned away.
> >
> > The COI was the biggest blocker. A 48 hour lead time for the visit 
> > didn’t seem to be enforced, not by Digital Realty anyway.
> >
> > Also, I tried to arrange for permanent building key card access 
> > while I was there. But the key cards must be used at least once 
> > every 60 days, otherwise they are deactivated. I decided just to 
> > arrange for access
> ahead
> > of time since I don’t visit often.
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> > > On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Erik Sundberg 
> > > 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > We just had an issue where cisco was going to replace a power tray 
> > > in
> > our router at 60 hudson, we are also at telx.  Cisco contracts with 
> > IBM
> for
> > this. The building is now checking that all 3rd party vendors have 
> > an existing Certificate of insurance (COI). This take 48 hours to 
> > get put in there system...
> > >
> > > So now we are forced to use telx smarthands if it's under 48 hours 
> > > or
> > weekends
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Dovid 
> > > Bender
> > > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:03 PM
> > > To: NANOG 
> > > Subject: 60 Hudson Woes
> > >
> > > We have space with Digital Realty (aka TELX) and 60 Hudson and 
> > > lately
> > it's been a nightmare getting in. The real estate management company 
> > is having us reconsider our options. They are giving us the option 
> > to have
> ID
> > badges for our employees but for anyone else that wants access we 
> > need to request it 48 hours in advance to get approval. So if we 
> > plan on having
> an
> > unexpected outage and we need to have a have a vendor come on site (e.g.
> a
> > Dell tech) we will need to let them know in advance.
> > >
> > > What are peoples experiences with 111 8th and  165 Halsey? We 
> > > really
> > like the connectivity options at 60 Hudson but at some point the 
> > hassle becomes not worth it.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> *Jim Stankiewicz*
>
> *Principal Network Architect*
> *NJEdge*
> *W:855.832.EDGE(3343)*
> *c:201.306.4409*
>