Re: Using private APNIC range in US

2010-03-19 Thread Craig Vuljanic
Chuck - Very true...
What about the time our old manager (MARTIN) gave your old organization that
Entire Class B 


On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Charles Mills w3y...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love war stories.  I once got chewed out by a colleague ? from
 another organization because we were using their address space.

 We were using 10.0.0.0/8.  Explanation of NAT and RFC1918 was met with
 a deer in the headlights look.

 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Matt Shadbolt matt.shadb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I once had a customer who for some reason had all their printers on
 public
  addresses they didn't own. Not advertising them outside, but internally
  whenever a user browsed to a external site that happened to be one of the
  addresses used, they would just receive a HP or Konica login page :)
 
  They didn't mind though. No idea if they've changed it since.
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Larry Sheldon larryshel...@cox.net
 wrote:
 
  On 3/18/2010 14:30, William Allen Simpson wrote:
   On 3/18/10 2:35 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
   Does anyone know if the University of Michigan or Cisco are going be
  updating their systems and documentation to no longer use 1.2.3.4 ?
  
   http://www.google.com/search?q=1.2.3.4+site%3Acisco.com
  
   I know that the University of Michigan utilize 1.2.3.4 for their
 captive
  portal login/logout pages as recently as monday when I was on the
 medical
  campus.
  
   Dunno about cisco.
  
   med.umich.edu seems to run their own stuff, separately from umich.edu
 ,
  and
   quite badly.  I've complained about their setup repeatedly over the
 past
   several years.  No traction.
 
  Is it something about Medical Schools?
 
  When we were first putting together the campus network, Surgery was
  running a Token Ring (I thought Vampire Tap was a fitting item for
  their inventory) running in Class D space as I recall.
 
   Should we try again, jointly?  ;-)
 
  Towards the end, there were people who insisted I must rout their net to
  the Internets.
 
  I declined.
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 Charles L. Mills
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Re: dark fiber

2010-02-11 Thread Craig Vuljanic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_fibre



On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Deric Kwok deric.kwok2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can I have question?

 What is dark fiber?

 Thank you



 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
 wrote:
  I am doing some researchis there a way to find out where there is
 dark
  fiber and who own's it?