Re: Can somebody explain these ransomwear attacks?
NEW ZEALAND HEALTH EXPERIENCE AND DISCUSSION Some of you may be aware that one of our major hospitals was taken off line with 680 compromised servers. Discussion on one local list is that the systems have been open for some time and the rnasom hackers didn't open the systems, they have just caused them to be cleaned up and locked. I was in one of our other hospitals this week. I was presented with Windows 2000 systems. These people don't seem to understand the concepts of a dated DLL stack, combined with inter system networking. They don't leave me with the impression that we've been presenting object level compromise data for decades now. They don't seem to understand that we've made that public facing for, what I would have thought, fairly obvious reasons. By 'we', I don't mean any special, crazy, conspiracy theory, tin foil hat wearing groups, I mean just plain old every day computer geeks who write software. In the NZ hospital case, it looks to me, and I don't know, this is just pure speculation, like someone is going around global hospitals and making them clean up stuff that they should have been upgrading. I personally accept that there are groups around the world with vested interests to have access to our hospital systems, if for no other reason that just to see who's coming and going... you never know when that might make a cool media story ea? I keep reading how this is a training issue of staff in hospitals who shouldn't be clicking on email attachments. It's a comment that just strikes me as bonkers. It's not a training issue at all, other than training management that systems have to be patched, updated, and upgraded. Call me crazy, but you can't go around telling kids that IT has great jobs, ask them (make them) pay for education, and then not actually give them jobs to do the work that clearly has to be done. Yes, you can call this a conspiracy theory, but I venture that when old people cry out for young people to learn IT so they can make better health systems, and then 'investors' don't actually upgrade to those 'new systems' and just leave the doors wide open to personal information, at some point some folk are going to get their noses out of joint a fairly obvious theory that to many in management are just discounting as conspiracy until things get broken then they blame the user for using email. Going back a number of years our whole social services system was found to be wide open because a vendor couldn't make their software work without giving it a 'few more permissions'. Couple that kind of thinking with decades old, compromised, DLL stacks... interests who like to just quietly watch... and a lack of good, reasonably paid IT work... and I have one question " Can somebody explain these ransomwear attacks?" ...I don't know... can I? HTH D On 2021-06-25 22:39, Jean St-Laurent via NANOG wrote: Here are some facts that it’s important to not pay them. 80% OF RANSOMWARE VICTIMS SUFFER REPEAT ATTACKS, ACCORDING TO NEW REPORT https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ransomware-victims-suffer-repeat-attacks-new-report/ published June 17th 2021 Don’t pay them. Just clean your mess. Jean FROM: NANOG ON BEHALF OF Michael Thomas SENT: June 24, 2021 5:59 PM TO: JoeSox CC: nanog@nanog.org SUBJECT: Re: Can somebody explain these ransomwear attacks? On 6/24/21 2:55 PM, JoeSox wrote: It gets tricky when 'your' company will lose money $$$ while you wait a month to restore from your cloud backups. So Executives roll the dice to see if service can be restored quickly as possible keeping shareholders and customers happy as possible. But if you pay without finding how they got in, they could turn around and do it again, or sell it on the dark web, right? Mike On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 2:44 PM Michael Thomas wrote: Not exactly network but maybe, but certainly operational. Shouldn't this just be handled like disaster recovery? I haven't looked into this much, but it sounds like the only way to stop it is to stop paying the crooks. There is also the obvious problem that if they got in, something (or someone) is compromised that needs to be cleaned which sounds sort of like DR again to me. Mike -- Don Gould 5 Cargill Place Richmond 8013 Christchurch, New Zealand Mobile/Telegram: + 64 21 114 0699 www.bowenvale.co.nz
Re: Virginia voter registration down due to cable cut
Actually we count lots of things, though we keep civic separate from state (we did that last year).We delayed our election by 4 weeks because of covid.Voting is open for a number of weeks. About 72% of voters had voted before the last day.Voting is on paper.Voters don't have to register before voting (though that is prefered).Count started on the last day and reporting started at about 7.30pm (polls closed at 7pm)Counting was mostly done by midnight.This term we also have two referendums but they won't report back until the end of October.We don't have queues because we have so many places you can vote.https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300124486/election-2020-christchurch-east-voting-booth-locationsThere were 3 locations within 750m of my house.Sorry to hear about your fibre...https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/122715051/return-of-the-cyberattackers-nzx-website-goes-offline-againI don't think a fibre cut would take down anything to serious in New Zealand but it does depend on what you consider important. ;)DD-- Don Gould5 Cargill PlaceRichmondChristchurch, New ZealandMobile/Telegram: + 64 21 114 0699www.bowenvale.co.nz Original message From: Mark Andrews Date: 17/10/20 11:29 am (GMT+12:00) To: aheb...@pubnix.net Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Virginia voter registration down due to cable cut It’s not the population. It’s the number of positions/things you are voting for. New Zealand doesn’t vote for sheriffs, judges, mayors etc. AFAIK so there is much less to count. More population should lead to more polling stations. These need to be collated but that is a relatively quick job compared to counting the votes. Timezone spread also makes the night longer. If you have a result within 2 hours of the Hawaiian polls closing you are on par. -- Mark AndrewsOn 17 Oct 2020, at 07:49, Alain Hebert wrote: Hi, Beside being: . a country with 1/10th of the population; . centralized voting rules; . ... PS: And there is a lot in that about the (publicly) unreal amount of insanity being pulled by the GOP this year. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-10-16 02:36, Sean Donelan wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2020, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: my reaction was more like Surprise, surprise, surprise... S.N.A.F.U. Other SNAFUs, Georgia had technical problems with its voter database systems during the first couple of days of early voting. Expect all sorts of minor problems throughout the election and afterwards. Nonetheless they are unlikely to significantly impact the results (hopefully), but will generate lots of noise. Its not just underfunded state I.T. systems. Even very large social media companies can have technical Oopsies. Again, hopefully Twitter won't fall down again during the evening of November 3rd. The digeratti will lose thier minds. Even if Twitter or another major social media platform does go belly-up, most likely it will be a normal technical problem. Wishing the FBI & CISA & OGAs watch officers a very boring night on November 3rd. In other news, New Zealand is having national elections this weekend. New Zealand is usually ranked in the top 10 best election administrations worldwide. NZ expects to have the majority of ballots counted within 2 hours of their polls closing on Saturday evening. Jealous of the Kiwis and their competently run elections. :-)
RE: Wildfires: Clear fuel from hilltop and remote area communications towers
Eric they have the same issues in Australia. You might want to join aunog, if you haven't already, I'm sure you'll find endorsement for these issues.Fuel management is a problem. Finding the right balance between management and ecological issues is political and complex with many vested interests driving the narrative. D-- Don Gould5 Cargill PlaceRichmondChristchurch, New ZealandMobile/Telegram: + 64 21 114 0699www.bowenvale.co.nz Original message From: Eric Kuhnke Date: 12/09/20 10:14 am (GMT+12:00) To: "nanog@nanog.org list" Subject: Wildfires: Clear fuel from hilltop and remote area communications towers Over the past week I think I've seen about 20 to 30 photos of burnt out communications sites in Oregon and California.Due to the often remote and unstaffed nature of many of these sites, there's a natural tendency for brush, shrubs, grass and small trees to grow close to the tower compounds on many hilltop sites.Many of these sites also support emergency communications services.In the subject line I'm using "fuel" as defined by firefighters, not literally meaning petroleum fuels, but anything flammable. In some places there are ecological or political concerns with maintaining a cleared perimeter around telecom tower sites. This might be a time to re-visit the logical purpose of some of these policies, if allowing fuel to grow right up to the tower and telecom equipment shelters greatly increases the likelihood of the whole thing going up in flames.
Re: Consolidation of Email Platforms Bad for Email?
I find this question interesting (obviously because I'm responding to the list) and have done for decades. Providing a reasonable email solution has become more and more complex while public perception is that email should be, and is, free. I see lots of sides to this debate, some have already been covered by many of you already. * Stuff has to be secure * When stuff becomes insecure it starts to cause headaches for others. * Keeping stuff secure gets harder and harder * Customers want more and more features * Customers should pay for some features/service * Some IT folk are standing up systems to help others reduce costs - again causing headaches for others * Some IT folk have set up expensive systems, funded by data mining and not customers. * Some IT folk simply object to data mining - some folk act on that objection. * There's a lot of 'activism' in the email space and has been for a very long time. * Some of the 'big providers' take some of the heat out of the activism, which only winds up some IT folk even more. * Knowledge and skills with people who can, and will, set up small systems is thinning as demand is growing. * Some want to grow and drive others to rise up their skills. * Some of those "drivers", I think [1], 'attack' learners, not unlike throwing the Apollo crew in a rocket simulator, hoping they will rise up their skills. * With limited revenue, and constant 'driver training', some eventually abandon the game. * Some view that driving training is important if you want to have skin in the game, but quickly forget their time is funded and they're not funding idealism. * Some see their lunch being taken by a rise of good 'free' software. Some react by [1] driving more updates, features and improvements 'help', which just overwhelms small operators. * Some had no choice but to stand up small systems but 'now free offerings' have empowered them to abandon the space. * Some have no thought around the issues, others simply don't care - some days there are just bigger fish. Personally, I identify with some of these issues, and perhaps there's more, but it's the 'fish' question that right now connects with me the most... https://scontent.fhlz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118984848_10158758280448988_8560408895957059983_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=VvSoKwD8SqkAX8hIeXE&_nc_ht=scontent.fhlz1-1.fna=69fc9c56a2e95fabe5cb637ba294ab35=5F7F5EB4 In a country of 5 million people, this graphic says we have ~18,000 people waiting for social housing. The idealist in me has turned it's attention, and while I still operate my own mail systems (mainly because I like to able to back it up and add capacity more quickly and I have trust issues with big providers changing the rules mid-stream), I to am leaning closer and closer to calling time... ...anyway, thanks for your eye balls, I'm off to put some paint on a building ready to launch a community housing trust to address that graphic. [1] - Tin Foil Hat time. D On 2020-09-09 05:25, Barry Shein via NANOG wrote: This is being portrayed a little too "either/or", that if you get spam etc from $BIGEMAIL you, service provider, block them. What goes on is multi-layer spam blocking using various tools rather than host/server blocking except as a last resort. So we'll block/toss/etc a lot of the malmail from $BIGEMAIL w/o generally blocking their servers. If we get a huge attack we have thresholds at which point we might block them for two hours (whatever) hoping it stops on its own or $BIGMAIL stops it. But those are pretty high thresholds and obviously can cause problems for our customers in delayed email but so can our mail servers being pounded on. Those $BIGMAIL delivery servers have a lot more computrons than we do. Aside: What's astounding to me is how little any of this has changed, other than consolidation perhaps -- remember when AOL's servers pounding you with spam could bring you to your knees? I do -- in over 20 years. -- Don Gould 5 Cargill Place Richmond Christchurch, New Zealand Mobile/Telegram: + 64 21 114 0699 www.bowenvale.co.nz
Re: power to the internet
Hi Brandon, I agree with lots of what you wrote, here's some more thoughts tl;dr Batteries from cars will fix your issues along with smart guys just wanting to get the job done. WHO AM I?! I am a coms tech. I have been on this list for ~20 years. My job is simply to look at the environment and make coms appear. My job is not to blame others, question politics or argue ethics. MY POWER, MY RULES, MY RIGHTS I have two Nissan LEAF with the 24Kwh battery, both at 10 of 12 bars of original battery capacity, roughly 8.5 years old. This gives each car roughly 110km (65 mile) of range between charges. Both are 6 months into a 5 year payment plan. "My job is simply to look at the environment and make coms appear. " So, looking at my actual environment, I know that I'm going to end up with two 15kwh batteries in about 8 years and two 15kwh generators (yes, the motors in those things put out about 15kwh under breaking). Ok, so I'm not going to personally convert these into anything at 57 (I'm 49 now), but some young up and coming (Mr 12, sitting in my living room, playing with his Christmas presents, perhaps) will. MY POWER In buying these two cars, I was wanting to address the 'demand side' of my energy question. Now I have a decent amount of demand, I'm going to put PV on my roof this year. My utility company will buy power back from me at about 15% of what I pay retail, so selling them power makes no sense. My best friend has just completed a 7kwh in solar installation to power is 210 tank gold fish facility. He's currently exporting power and now looking at storage solutions. We're 'early adoptors', so you can look to us to see where the trend is going. MY RULES My other mate asked our utility for power to his new home and they said "Yes sir, half a years wages plus a monthly contribution to the up keep for the brand new plant you're paying for up front." I'm sure it comes as no surprise, he said "no thanks" and then built a whole off grid system including a 6kwh diesel generator. (He is also a coms tech, 20 years older than I am, though not on this list). MY RIGHTS My country lets me do most of the electrical work on my own home up to the power board as long as I follow the rules. I can generate power, I can export power, I can store power. WHERE ARE WE GOING? Just like the US, my community has people who will sit and blame government, will blame the power company, will blame their local elected members, will drag us all into court, will blame the boomers. But also like the US my community also has people who are coms techs who just look at the space, see what's going on and build accordinly. TRANSITION IS A PROBLEM TO SOLVE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL As many of you are picking up, we're in a transitional time. The US utilities know this and they're scared to invest, and for good reason, some have been very burnt in the past. NOT ENOUGH COPPER "COMS WILL DIE" I remember ~20 years ago, reading posts about how there isn't enough copper to supply the growing demand in lines. Now today I'm reading about how you have abundant abandoned copper as DSLAMs are moved closer to the edge. Power is the same in my view. We're going to see local edge generation, storage and change of use (I have all LED lighting, TV's that use a fraction of the power they used to, but two electric cars). Your US power will stop browning out when you put storage in the network and can drop the peek load. But you're going to have to drive Mrs Brown to make that personal investment, and she won't until it starts to hurt. The utility will under ground lines when it can see a clearer picture for the future. It will take coms with it (FTTH). It won't until the situation smacks the political space so hard that regulation is sorted so it can be happy with investment (in NZ we had to get down this path - this is quite a good read, the incumbent - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark_New_Zealand ). RANDOM FYI As I type this, I have over 8 layer 1 networks I can use at my house... * ENABLED - FTTH * VODAFONE - HFC * CHORUS - FTTN/POTS * VODAFONE - 4/5G * SPARK - 4G * 2DEGREES - 4G * CCC - private council network * YOURNET - my own private WISP network * OTHER WISP - there's half a dozen that I can see with a quick scan from hills about 8km away BUT THIS WAS ABOUT POWER FOR OUR EXISTING COMS, NOT THE WHOLE NEIGHBOURHOOD! Many of you are thinking in a silo. You live in a community and you're not acting like it. Fix the power problems for the community rather than just trying to care only for your little nest. As some of you have pointed out, you're lugging gas to generators, connecting trucks with inverters just to keep the coms going in case there's a 911 call required, without thinking that in the even of such, the emergency service won't be able to get to Mrs Brown because the streets are blocked by your trucks all connected to random
RE: power to the internet
This is a very short term problem. The market is going to fill with battery storage sooner rather than later. Solar is just exploding. Your car will "house tie".6G will solve your data problem. D-- Don Gould5 Cargill PlaceRichmondChristchurch, New ZealandMobile/Telegram: + 64 21 114 0699www.bowenvale.co.nz Original message From: Michael Thomas Date: 26/12/19 2:33 PM (GMT+12:00) To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: power to the internet https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/25/california-power-shutoffs-089678This article details some of the issues with California's "new reality" of planned blackouts. One of the big things that came to light with these blackouts is that our network infrastructure's resilience is pretty lacking. While I was (surprisingly to me) ok with my DSL connection out in the boonies, lots and lots of people with cable weren't so lucky. And I'm not sure how bad the situation is with cellular infrastructure, but I assume it's not much better than cable. And I wouldn't doubt that other DSL deployments go dark when power is down. I have no clue with fiber.So I guess what I'm wondering is what can we do about this? What should we do about this? These days IP access is not just convenience, it's the way we go about our lives, just like electricity itself. At base, it seems to me that network operators should be required to keep the lights on in blackouts just like POTS operators do now. If I have power to light my modem or charge in my phone, I should be able to get onto the net. That seems like table stakes.One of the things we learned also is that the blackouts seem to last between 2-3 days apiece. I happen to have a generator since I'm out in the boonies and our power gets cut regularly because of snow, but not everyone has that luxury. I kind of want to think that my router+modem use about 20 watts, so powering it up would take about 1.5kwh for 3 days. a quick google look shows that I'd probably need to shell out $500 or so for a battery of that capacity, and that's doesn't include your phones, laptops, tv's, etc power needs. What does that mean? That is a major expense for a lot of people.On the bright side, I hear that power generator companies stocks have gone through the roof.On the dark side, this is probably coming to a lot more states and countries due to climate change. Australia. Sigh.Mike
Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news
What is GDPR? My current guess is "Just another thing to learn since whois is now broken because to many of us just abused a once useful tool" On 23 May 2018 1:50:17 PM NZST, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote: >>What about the likely truth that if anyone from Europe mails the list, >then >>every mail server operator with subscribers to the list must follow >the >>GDPR Article 14 notification requirements, as the few exceptions >appear to >>not apply (unless you’re just running an archive). > >Some of us whose businesses and equipment are entirely in North >America will take our chances. This is NANOG, not EUNOG, you know. > >Also, one thing that has become painfully clear is that the number of >people who imagine that they understand the GDPR exceeds the number >who actually understand it by several orders of magnitude. > >The "you have to delete all my messages from the archive if I >unsubscribe" nonsense is a good indicator. > >R's, >John -- Don Gould 5 Cargill Place Richmond Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) www.bowenvale.co.nz skype: don.gould.nz
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Cogentoo BGP Contact please?
Hi, I've just moved 117.121.247.0/24 to a new provider (Cyberwurx) but our older provider still seems to have some fitlers loaded with you and I'm having trouble getting to their NOC team to sort it out. Is there anyone on list with clue who can help and/or point me to someone who can? D 1. 202.68.81.105 0.0% 29670.2 0.2 0.2 5.3 0.1 2. 202.174.181.1 0.0% 2967 20.5 20.2 20.1 83.2 2.0 3. v899.cr1.alb.akl.dtsanz.com 0.0% 2967 20.8 20.6 20.3 55.0 2.1 4. v890-u.cr1.alb.akl.dtsanz.com 0.0% 2967 21.5 23.2 21.3 114.5 8.7 5. as45177-ic-310274-las-b3.c.telia.net 0.0% 2967 144.7 147.1 144.4 233.1 9.6 6. las-b3-link.telia.net 0.0% 2967 157.8 158.0 157.6 199.2 2.7 7. las-b21-link.telia.net 0.0% 2967 158.9 157.6 157.3 187.8 1.5 8. be3052.ccr23.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com 0.0% 2967 159.5 159.2 158.7 207.7 2.1 9. be2180.ccr21.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com 0.0% 2967 158.2 158.1 157.8 197.9 1.2 10. be2065.ccr21.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com 0.0% 2967 193.7 193.5 193.1 230.7 1.0 11. be2687.ccr41.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com 0.0% 2967 207.5 207.2 206.9 251.5 1.2 12. te0-3-1-7.agr22.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com 0.0% 2967 207.8 207.8 207.6 252.4 1.3 13. gi0-0-0-1.nr11.b000173-2.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com 0.0% 2967 208.5 208.1 207.9 255.3 1.9 14. 38.88.191.250 0.2% 2967 208.9 209.3 208.5 411.8 11.5 15. ??? -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) I'M COLLECTING COFFEE CUPS FOR PROJECT COFFEE CUP. Deja vue (missing the French accent mark) - literally means already seen, that sense of haven't we been here before.
Re: Capital Internet http://www.capitalinternet.com/ down?
Thanks William, Fibre cut then and they couldn't reannounce our ip ranges because of a lack of LOA. Learning here... more jobs on the ToDo list. As for our providers dns, phones, etc... yes. D On 10/09/2015 9:43 AM, William Waites wrote: Near as I can tell, the network that your nameservers are in, 68.168.144.0/20 is being correctly announced by AS21560 which is "Netstream Communications". I see this announcement here. A traceroute goes as far as, 13 te0-3-1-7.agr22.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.47.190) 97.933 ms te0-3-1-7.agr21.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.94) 114.202 ms be2149.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.31.126) 93.931 ms 14 be2112.ccr41.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.158) 100.736 ms te0-0-2-0.nr11.b000173-2.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.24.14.118) 100.019 ms be2112.ccr41.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.158) 100.691 ms 15 te0-4-1-7.agr21.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.178) 101.480 ms te0-3-1-7.agr22.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.47.190) 101.860 ms 38.88.191.250 (38.88.191.250) 99.150 ms 16 te0-0-2-3.nr11.b000173-2.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.24.15.10) 102.828 ms looks like something within Netstream or between them and Cogent. Also both your nameservers seem to be right beside each other in the same netblock -- that's not really the best idea for just this sort of reason. It'd be a good idea to have secondary nameservers somewhere else (Esgob do free secondary anycast DNS and they're nice folk). -w -- William Waites<wwai...@tardis.ed.ac.uk> | School of Informatics http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~wwaites/ | University of Edinburgh https://hubs.net.uk/ | HUBS AS60241 The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) I'M COLLECTING COFFEE CUPS FOR PROJECT COFFEE CUP. Deja vue (missing the French accent mark) - literally means already seen, that sense of haven't we been here before.
Capital Internet http://www.capitalinternet.com/ down?
One of my providers seems to be off line currently. Phones and DNS has vanished too. Does anyone know anything? D Capital Internet http://www.capitalinternet.com/ 200 Sandy Springs Place Northeast Atlanta, GA 30328 Company phone: +1.404.531.0080 Company fax: +1.404.303.1945 -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) I'M COLLECTING COFFEE CUPS FOR PROJECT COFFEE CUP. Deja vue (missing the French accent mark) - literally means already seen, that sense of haven't we been here before.
Re: Colo Capacity quote in Renton, WA 98057, USA needed
Hi Sam, Thanks what a great resource! I'm feeling the NOG love here right now!!! I got a bit DDOS'ed with support and now I'm just wading through the replies. I did discover that I'm just paying way to much and have been bitten by not paying proper attention to refreshing service arrangements annually (or even biannually). Thanks guys to everyone who responded and sorry if I haven't got back to you quite yet. D On 28/05/2015 8:31 p.m., Sam Oduor wrote: Hi Don Check out http://www.quotecolo.com/colocation/ ; you will enter the requirements inclusive the area you prefer. They will send you referrals and you can choose who to pick. Regards On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Don Gould d...@bowenvale.co.nz mailto:d...@bowenvale.co.nz wrote: Hi, I have half a dozen servers in a DC in Renton, WA 98057, USA. I'm looking for quotes 7 RU with 100mbit PIR. I do need A and B side power. The pricing from my current provider has got out of hand and they have burnt the relationship. As a result I am interested in hearing from others who might be interested in servicing this small requirement. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) -- Samson Oduor -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) I'M COLLECTING COFFEE CUPS FOR PROJECT COFFEE CUP. Deja vue (missing the French accent mark) - literally means already seen, that sense of haven't we been here before.
Atlanta Remote Hands needed for Server Move.
I have half a dozen servers in the Netstream DC that I need moved to the Cyberwurx DC in Atlanta. I'm looking for some remote hands to assist with moving these machines. Cheers Don http://www.netstreamcom.net/ 200 Sandy Springs Place Atlanta, GA 30328 Cyberwurxhttps://cyberwurx.com/datacenter/ 55 Marietta Street -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb)
Colo Capacity quote in Renton, WA 98057, USA needed
Hi, I have half a dozen servers in a DC in Renton, WA 98057, USA. I'm looking for quotes 7 RU with 100mbit PIR. I do need A and B side power. The pricing from my current provider has got out of hand and they have burnt the relationship. As a result I am interested in hearing from others who might be interested in servicing this small requirement. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb)
Re: IPv6 and HTTPS
Hi Jay, The DTC hosting control panel team had a chat about this issue earlier in the year. http://gplhost.sg/lists/dtcdev/msg03482.html - Interesting reading. I followed a little, but decided that SNI just isn't worth our time. In my personal view, an hour spent on SNI is an hour wasted that I should be spending on IPv6. There's still more than enough IPv4 space about, it's just going to get more and more expensive. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49topicid=116328 I'm happy to put IP space costs on my customers to help fund my IPv6 progress where I can. I agree with others that there is still way to much XP and other non supporting platforms and I suspect that by the time we get those out of the system we'll be most of the way there for IPv6 access. I feel a bit like it's a case of am I committed to IPv6 or not?. D On 26/04/2013 1:24 p.m., Jay Ashworth wrote: Ok, here's a stupid question[1], which I'd know the answer to if I ran bigger networks: Does anyone know how much IPv4 space is allocated *specifically* to cater to the fact that HTTPS requires a dedicated IP per DNS name? Is that a statistically significant percentage of all the IPs in use? Wasn't there something going on to make HTTPS IP muxable? How's that coming? How fast could it be deployed? Cheers, -- jra [1] Ok, five questions. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...
Hi all, Hope you're all getting on top of Sandy. Trying to hit kajabi.com, I'm getting up to 60% packet loss off qwest.net - dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net A bit of quick googleing and we assumed that they're on the west coast of US, so please excuse (and just ignore me) if you're on the east coast and this is being caused by all the Sandy issues (yes I've been following the Outage list and think you guys are just doing an amazing job right now!!!) Re the subject - told the wife that her problem is likely being caused by packets being dropped by qwest, her response can someone pick them up for me plse :) mx.8013.yournet.co.nz (0.0.0.0)Sat Nov 3 16:43:18 2012 Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit Packets Pings HostLoss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. router0.0%390.2 0.2 0.2 0.3 0.0 2. ??? 3. 218.101.61.1010.0%399.1 21.8 7.0 173.6 33.4 4. ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net 0.0%39 38.0 22.9 19.6 38.0 3.5 5. ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstracl 0.0%39 22.2 22.9 18.9 38.5 3.9 6. unknown.telstraglobal.net 0.0%39 23.4 22.1 17.6 26.4 1.4 7. i-0-6-1-0.tlot-core01.bx.telstra 0.0%39 153.4 153.3 151.2 163.9 2.3 8. i-4-2.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.ne 0.0%39 147.0 154.8 143.5 313.8 27.7 9. lap-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net0.0%39 154.2 154.5 152.0 159.2 1.6 10. dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net 10.5%39 221.0 223.1 217.1 247.6 6.6 11. 67.133.224.1940.0%39 220.8 222.2 216.3 268.6 8.1 12. 72.21.220.161 0.0%39 221.2 225.3 217.6 268.2 10.8 13. 72.21.222.139 0.0%38 220.9 222.8 216.6 266.6 7.5 14. 216.182.224.8 0.0%38 221.3 223.2 220.5 243.9 4.1 15. ??? D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...
Hi Matt (and other helpful posters off list), Yes, makes sense. I'm told this pops up twice a month, so opps, clearly I need to spend more time reading and learning! :) Thanks to the person who pointed out the PTR rec suggests that the impacted resource might be more west than I realised. I confess I don't know the .us very well at all. D On 3/11/2012 6:43 p.m., Matthew Petach wrote: Hi Don, based on your mtr output, there's no loss to the end destination; one router along the path showing loss that does not continue to affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on that router is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages; but there's 0% loss beyond it, which means it's doing its primary job of forwarding packets just fine. Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend! Matt -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: job screening question
Ok, so I read over Williams OP... I have 25 years IT experience... I've applied for a few jobs in my time... I thought to myself I'll have a crack with a few comments!!!... then I read down the next 30 posts and decided that perhaps I didn't really know enough about networking to really comment... ...and perhaps I needed a bit more grey hair and eat more RFCs for breakfast... ...then I read down the next 30 posts and realised that I really didn't know enough about computing to comment ...and perhaps my problem wasn't lack of grey hair, but just to much hair... ...Talk about a bunch of intimidating uber geeks! :) I suspect that when I read down the next 30 posts I'll just back away from the computer slowly knowing that I'm just not smart enough to use this device. But seriously guys, great thread with tons of really interesting stuff and a bunch of history. D On 6/07/2012 5:02 a.m., William Herrin wrote: Hi folks, I gave my HR folks a screening question to ask candidates for an IP expert position. I've gotten some unexpected answers, so I want to do a sanity check and make sure I'm not asking something unreasonable. And by unexpected I don't mean naively incorrect answers, I mean oh-my-God-how-did-you-get-that-cisco-certification answers. The question was: You implement a firewall on which you block all ICMP packets. What part of the TCP protocol (not IP in general, TCP specifically) malfunctions as a result? My questions for you are: 1. As an expert who follows NANOG, do you know the answer? Or is this question too hard? 2. Is the question too vague? Is there a clearer way to word it? 3. Is there a better screening question I could pass to HR to ask and check the candidate's response against the supplied answer? Thanks, Bill Herrin -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: common time-management mistake: rack stack
+1 I picked up ram from a supplier today. Could have used a courier, but getting out of the office is vital. A CTO who's lost touch because they haven't been to a remote site in half a decade is a business risk, more so than the CTO being away from their desk. If there is business risk from having the CTO out of touch for a week or even a month then there's a bigger problem. D On 17/02/2012 9:17 p.m., Brandon Butterworth wrote: I have noticed that a lot of very well-paid, sometimes well-qualified, networking folks spend some of their time on rack stack tasks, which I feel is a very unwise use of time and talent. It's not a waste, it's therapeutic, breaks the monotony of a desk job, you get a bit of exercise. Doing something mindless can help clear your thoughts, engineering yoga. Imagine if the CFO of a bank spent a big chunk of his time filling up ATMs. That'd be a good idea, it's too easy to become remote from reality. obviously you need the right balance - s/big// brandon -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Simple Cable Marking Standards
I would like to make a wiki page with links to useful resources. This issue cased me problems last week. I don't know what the conventions are. I don't know what the best tools are. I don't know what others are doing. I don't have good examples. I am interested specifically in 'very small, edge' examples. I'm also interested in FLOSS documentation tools for recording set ups, pref web based that will translate well to Android. D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?
On 20/12/2011 8:31 p.m., Owen DeLong wrote: Ideally, the IETF should provide complete solutions based on DHCPv6 and on RA and let the operators decide what they want to use in their environments. +1 I would like to see a simple presentation of the different ways of setting up a small network at the edge with the features, benefits and issues, of each method. My interest is in networks with 2 to 20 devices in them. ie, small business and home. I would also like to see a survey of how people are setting up their small networks. While some are interested in the purest way of setting them up, I'm not. I'm interested in how people are setting them up. When setting up networks for customers, I'm interested in doing it in the most common way. What I don't want is to end up with a bad name because I set up stuff 'the right way' but in such a way that the next tech the customer calls gets annoyed that what I've done is so complex that it will cost the customer $ to fix a fault. I'm sure these comments have been made by others in the past, I'm just adding a voice. D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: Sad IPv4 story?
I really didn't follow to much of this thread, it's all a bit weird with some obvious industry under currents running that I don't follow. What I will say is that I'm currently involved with exactly this issue and would have to say that it's all just getting sillier by the day. I've been researching solutions with NAT and double NAT in mind because it's obvious that v4 space is going to become a growing problem. It's interesting to see the things that break when you use double NAT. What's also interesting is the growing competitive market place with incumbent providers, who have enough v4 space for their entire market, contracting their retail operations while their retail competitors are growing in size. I've been working on some very basic projections for my country and expect over the next decade we will see at least 30%, or more, movement in our market. So where is this going to leave v4 allocations? Will the incumbents protect their retail operations by locking up their v4 space so that smaller competitors can't grow? Will we all move to v6 to make the problem go away? (Not likely, the level of edge understanding of v6 isn't there, and you lot already had a rant about CPE this week, so I won't go there!) Will we develop smarter v4 technology and just NAT on NAT... and on NAT? The only thing that is really clear is the lack of clarity. D On 10/12/2011 7:37 a.m., Franck Martin wrote: I just had a personal email from a brand new ISP in the Asia-Pacific area desperately looking for enough IPv4 to be able to run their business the way they would like… This is just a data point. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: ab...@brasiltelecom.com.br Contact - Re: http://ipcacoal.org/ipcacoal/includes/kiwi.htm
Thank you to all those who ventured assistance and off line responses. There was, as you might expect a good range of some what amusing responses. It was also very uplifting to see some very helpful responses from people with contacts in the right areas, who speak the required languages and were willing to make some attempt to close down these issues. So thanks again to those who put in time and effort to just clean up these little messes. I promise I won't bring you every single one of these that hits my inbox. :) I do hope others will rise to my pledge to clean up my whois. :) D On 20/11/2011 10:31 a.m., Don Gould wrote: Anyone with any clue on how to contact ab...@brasiltelecom.com.br like to forward this? Their abuse contact in the whois database is just bouncing. I do realise this is just day to day noise, but as you can see from the trail below, I have used the normal tools that we put in place to mange these sorts of issues. I have noted over the past 12 months, quite a bit of discussion on NANog about Whois and that fact that the resource is now failing. I would like to see the community address the whois database, clean it up and return it to being functional. Mine is not perfect either, and I will pledge to work on that over the next 12 months. I'd like to year your commitment to the same. Cheers D Sirs, A host in your IP range is hosting a bank security breach web site. Can you please address this? http://ipcacoal.org/ipcacoal/includes/kiwi.htm - Please see the correct site at www.kiwibank.co.nz # whois ipcacoal.org NOTICE: Access to .ORG WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the Public Interest Registry registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and Public Interest Registry does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator or any ICANN-Accredited Registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. All rights reserved. Public Interest Registry reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. Domain ID:D155949678-LROR Domain Name:IPCACOAL.ORG Created On:24-Apr-2009 12:20:02 UTC Last Updated On:02-Apr-2011 20:41:14 UTC Expiration Date:24-Apr-2012 12:20:02 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR) Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:a81fb17fb96efad6 Registrant Name:Kallew Cesar Braganca Pavao Registrant Organization:ipcacoal.org Registrant Street1:Rua Carlos SCherrer, 478 Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Cacoal Registrant State/Province: Registrant Postal Code:76962-278 Registrant Country:BR Registrant Phone:+55.6934418628 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX:+55.6934418628 Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:k1...@hotmail.com Admin ID:a81fb17fb96efad6 Admin Name:Kallew Cesar Braganca Pavao Admin Organization:ipcacoal.org Admin Street1:Rua Carlos SCherrer, 478 Admin Street2: Admin Street3: Admin City:Cacoal Admin State/Province: Admin Postal Code:76962-278 Admin Country:BR Admin Phone:+55.6934418628 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX:+55.6934418628 Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email:k1...@hotmail.com Tech ID:a81fb17fb96efad6 Tech Name:Kallew Cesar Braganca Pavao Tech Organization:ipcacoal.org Tech Street1:Rua Carlos SCherrer, 478 Tech Street2: Tech Street3: Tech City:Cacoal Tech State/Province: Tech Postal Code:76962-278 Tech Country:BR Tech Phone:+55.6934418628 Tech Phone Ext.: Tech FAX:+55.6934418628 Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:k1...@hotmail.com Name Server:NS1.SERVIDORPROTEGIDO.NET Name Server:NS2.SERVIDORPROTEGIDO.NET Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC:Unsigned # host ipcacoal.org ipcacoal.org has address 200.160.239.14 ipcacoal.org mail is handled by 0 ipcacoal.org. # whois 200.160.239.14 % Copyright (c) Nic.br % The use of the data below is only permitted as described in % full by the terms of use (http://registro.br/termo/en.html), % being prohibited its distribution, comercialization or % reproduction, in particular, to use it for advertising or % any similar purpose. % 2011-11-19 19:16:09 (BRST -02:00) inetnum: 200.160.239/24 aut-num: AS8167 abuse-c: BTA17 owner: Gallas Software e Internet LTDA. ownerid: 005.753.287/0001-44 responsible: Depto. Registro de Domínios
ab...@brasiltelecom.com.br Contact - Re: http://ipcacoal.org/ipcacoal/includes/kiwi.htm
: 20060716 changed: 20101014 % Security and mail abuse issues should also be addressed to % cert.br, http://www.cert.br/, respectivelly to c...@cert.br % and mail-ab...@cert.br % % whois.registro.br accepts only direct match queries. Types % of queries are: domain (.br), ticket, provider, ID, CIDR % block, IP and ASN. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report
I agree with Skeeve that it hits a number of lists, but I think that is a good thing and is of value. I agree with others who have said that there is any amount of worthless noise on lists and we can just filter if not required. Personally iirc, it was this content that led me to find Geoff's web site and follow on to a number of other very useful resources when I first started learning about this space. We need to remember that not every person in this space enters from University but some migrate to it because of other drivers. Hence some of these resources, that those of you with decades of experience, wonder about the value of, actually have far more value than just their core content. (Hope that makes sense.). D On 16/10/2011 4:48 p.m., Skeeve Stevens wrote: I read them all too. BUT, I get some 5 or 6 copies of them from all the lists I am on. I would rather subscribe to a list that was just for those. …Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO - eintellego Pty Ltd ske...@eintellego.netmailto:ske...@eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellego twitter.com/networkceoau ; www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve PO Box 7726, Baulkham Hills, NSW 1755 Australia -- eintellego - The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - HP Networking - Cisco - Brocade On 16/10/11 7:24 AM, Lyndashr...@deaddrop.orgmailto:shr...@deaddrop.org wrote: On 10/15/2011 4:26 AM, Geoff Huston wrote: While I am at it, does anyone read this report, or is this weekly report also just part of the spam load on this list? I read both of them, and also the Weekly Routing Report. I will regret the loss, and consider all three to be far more valuable than 90% of the traffic on the list. -- Last week we lost a giant in the world of computing. Last weekend we lost the giant on whose shoulders he stood. Rest in peace, friend. (Tim Pierce, on the deaths of Dennis Ritchie and Steve Jobs) -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
Hello, I don't know if that was directed at me or the OP, but very interesting stuff thanks. No I don't read French, but google does. :) D On 21/09/2011 8:36 p.m., Julien Gormotte wrote: Hello, If you are able to read french, there are useful informations : the fai-locaux mailing list archives : https://lists.fdn.fr/wws A series of posts on this blog : http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/06/09/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-1-la-theorie/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/06/10/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-2-la-base/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/06/15/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-3-interconnexion/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/02/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-4-administratif/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/09/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-5-le-tres-haut-debit/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/14/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-6-cas-pratique/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/17/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-7-securite/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/17/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-8-services/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/19/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-9-cas-concret/ Some informations are france-specific (in regards of law, etc...), but it can be useful. A lot of informations about ISP creation has been discussed lately, because FDN, a french association that is the oldest ISP still active in france, decided to create (with other associations) a federation to help the creation of new associative isps. You can see the FDN website (http://www.fdn.fr/) Le 21/09/2011 01:55, Don Gould a écrit : Hasserw, First I must apologise for not responding, I did see this message and did mean to attempt to help you out as I am currently working though this exact process in a very small proof of concept network with an even smaller budget. To address our question, a good starting point is a Cisco CCNA. If you review the list archive for the past month you will find a very interesting thread linking to guys who are running massive home networks just for their learning, that in turn will link you to detailed public CVs showing the sort of stuff that these guys are trained and training in. You also need some business training to understand how to structure the business aspects of your project. An MBA is a good qualification but there are many less high level courses you could look at as well. NA Nog is an operational list (with a lot of rant and fun stuff) and not really a business focused or educational list, so your initial query simply ran under the radar. D On 17/09/2011 6:10 a.m., hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
Hasserw, First I must apologise for not responding, I did see this message and did mean to attempt to help you out as I am currently working though this exact process in a very small proof of concept network with an even smaller budget. To address our question, a good starting point is a Cisco CCNA. If you review the list archive for the past month you will find a very interesting thread linking to guys who are running massive home networks just for their learning, that in turn will link you to detailed public CVs showing the sort of stuff that these guys are trained and training in. You also need some business training to understand how to structure the business aspects of your project. An MBA is a good qualification but there are many less high level courses you could look at as well. NA Nog is an operational list (with a lot of rant and fun stuff) and not really a business focused or educational list, so your initial query simply ran under the radar. D On 17/09/2011 6:10 a.m., hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: ouch..
Well... Seems to be popping up on global NOG lists today. When you're already in trouble with the wife you go have a beer with your mates. This campaign got all of you to stop talking about NAT444 and focused on talking about Cisco and Juniper gear. Hell, if I put my tinfoil hat on, I'd say this was a joint venture by both vendors to get you all to focus on their kit and stop looking at other brands or talking about technology standards. How many of you have sat and thought about the merit of this web site? * Does Juniper break promises? * Does Cisco break them? * What bad things and experiences have you had with Cisco, Juniper? * What is the best technology for each company? * Did you know that Cisco has a 100Gb solution? ...I could go on... It's 9:20am here and I woke up to a flurry of the worlds leading IP people talking about Cisco and Juniper - To: TheMarketingGuysFromCiscoJuniper From: OtherBrandUser Subject: Global brand awareness Marketing campaign Body: Job well done. D On 15/09/2011 9:05 a.m., Scott Weeks wrote: --- brandon.galbra...@gmail.com wrote: From: Brandon Galbraithbrandon.galbra...@gmail.com Juniper: Who needs to waste time with pathetic marketing videos when you're gear just works. --- Unless it's the ERX series. Blech, it puts a bad taste in my mouth just writing the acronym ERX. Thank $deity that I don't have to work on those anymore... scott
Re: ouch..
On 15/09/2011 9:46 a.m., Leo Bicknell wrote: Now, with that out of the way, how much does everyone else hate even the thought of NAT444? Clearly some hate it enough to go to the trouble of making a 'we think they suck' web site in an attempt to draw readers in a different direction. Now with respect to your list... I'm sure there will be many that will be quite interested to see it, so Monday? :) Beer D
Re: East Coast Earthquake 8-23-2011 - comment and a bit of a Christchurch Telco report :)
is that once you're all 'IP', wireless technology becomes a much faster way of getting back on line. We had to relocate over 50,000 workers out of the CBD. Many businesses have commented that their only data choice was a point to point wireless solution. They were very surprised to discover how quickly those services could be commissioned and how much more performance they could get for the same money they'd been paying for fixed line service delivery. D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: East Coast Earthquake 8-23-2011 - comment and a bit of a Christchurch Telco report :)
) service can provide. You have a fight for spectrum, and latency/jitter figures that dont compare. Yip... agree. Fibre - Sorry 6 weeks... Copper - Sorry it's been 6 weeks... may be next week... Wireless - After lunch tomorrow, but your phone calls might chop a bit... What's an 'SLA'? What I will say is that the wireless option was a very useful tool to get a hurry on sorting the copper services. ;) It has its place though and ive no doubt that folks will be more open to a service than can be uplifted and moved relatively easily, especially at the moment with many businesses operating in temporary premesis while their red-zone office spaces have their futures decided. Agreed. I would also not be surprised to see many of these folks tend back to fibre type services once theyre established in new permanent premesis. Why? If the price point is right then they might. But I suspect that the price point is going to have to be right for many. One wireless last-mile provider I spoke to a few weeks ago was describing to me how one of their key transmission sites was the roof of a red-stickered building thats now marked for demolition. The very geography that works well for large, high powered transmission (ala TV) does not lend itself to shared-spectrum, nodal stuff such as wireless IP. You still need adequately connected locations that you can place RF kit on, with sufficiently-decent antennas to provide the right mix of directionality and coverage to ensure you can use and re-use your relatively limited spectrum to support the highest number of customers possible. Agreed. It's no where near as simple as just digging a hole, pushing in a fibre and knowing you can deliver 300Gbit without much effort, just the right head ends. Wireless is a mixed bag, but it is indeed better than nothing. 100% agree with that. If you want your business back on line fast then wireless is the only way to do it in my view after seeing what I've seen in the past 6 months. Having said that, the guys who I've been talking to locally about it, are using a lot of fibre to aggregate data around the city. They're not using long reach wireless, they're using it to do short hops and taking care to manage resources carefully. D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: East Coast Earthquake 8-23-2011 - comment and a bit of a Christchurch Telco report :)
strikes, mobile is going to be 'it', so make sure you've got enough capacity provisioned! Our road side FTTN cabinets only have battery life for between 4 to 8 hours. Each cabinet services ~200 customers. So you can see a new problem unfolding... how do you get generators to those? The FTTN nodes currently do midpoint injection, so the PSTN stayed going but DSL failed after time, expect where the 'E' side cables where damaged. The newer TelstraClear fixed network is a combination HFC/UTP POTS network delivered over head or in street ducting. Interestingly the HFC didn't miss a beat. The POTS did eventually drop out, and when it came back on line, the system only seemed to have a basic configuration and the lines wouldn't support appliances like dialup EFTPOS machines any more. (This was fixed a few days later.) - oh how I long for a total IP world! :) EFTPOS is very important in local socio-economic high crime areas. Small local store owners start to stress when they start to collect to much cash in the till as it makes them a target. EFTPOS means they can 'give out cash' at the same rate they collect it. Many people on public benefits, such as the old age pension, also don't have cash and use a plastic card to buy something as simple as milk. While people had 'money in the bank', they couldn't get to it to spend it end they needed to. IP EFTPOS means you can transfer the terminal from a fixed service to another network or mobile solution quickly. My local store owner only had fixed lines from the one provider whos service failed, so I had to string cables down 4 buildings to get a working phone service from 'the other network'. (We were lucky that one building in the block did still have a working service from 'the other provider'. $5 difference a month means that 70% of customers in the area are using the cheaper provider). Ground Cables --- The older Telecom network is 'direct bury' and the cables in my area are ~60 years old. This causes a number of problems. With 7,000 after shocks since our 7.1 quake on Sept 4, 2010, the cables are getting pulled apart and pulled away from street side termination. We now have holes on our road because of earthquake damage and holes in our foot paths from telco contractors digging up bits of cable all over the suburb to trace faults. While the old cables are armoured, you only have to touch them with a digger and you get 4 nice cable techs parked out side your house for 2 days drinking your coffee while they dig up and fix 85 pairs. (Which I might note only supplies service to 1 customer now) City wide we've had many buildings pulled down. This also causes problems where cables run across buildings. Local techs told me that they've had many call outs where the cable to an adjacent building has simply been removed when a building is demolished in a hurry (because it's likely to fall on someone if there's another aftershock.) We also had inter-exchange load issues. People could call 'out of town' but not exchange to exchange - oh how I long for a total IP world! :) -- Don Gould Christchurch, New Zealand
Re: OT: Given what you know now, if you were 21 again...
* OSI layers 1 to 3 - so CCNA, MCP (or something dumb MS like), RHCE * Electrical eng - to best understand about the basics of copper and fibre. Also some focus on power systems - understand how a psu actually works! * wireless eng - you need to understand how a radio actually works, how an antenna actually works - do a course that involves building such - wokfy (google it!), tin can antennas. * C and assembler programming Yip, everything I'm talking about is low level and under well the bonnet. Every other bit of crap can be thrown on top. Sure, you can become an AppleTalk expert... what happens if we stop using that protocol? You can become an Exchange expert... what happens if someone... well you get the idea. HTH D On 14/07/2011 9:08 a.m., Larry Stites wrote: Given what you know now, if you were 21 and just starting into networking / communications industry which areas of study or specialty would you prioritize? Thanks Larry Stites NCNetworks, Inc. Nevada City, CA 95959 -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: Spam?
OMG can't you people run proper spam filtering on your own mail servers that filter out the nanog messages that are spam?! I think I've had two messages in the last month, while others of you are talking about dozens? Do you need to buy some hosting for your email accounts? D On 12/07/2011 8:59 p.m., Paul Graydon wrote: New location means we now get spam on Nanog? Could we go back to the old place? -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.
* 2.5GPON isn't symmetric. * DSL and cable can be symmetric. * Business reasons - providers don't want you hosting content at home, they want you hosting content in their data centers so they can charge for that space. So when a provider gets a 100/100 from a telco, it uses 90/10 dl to feed it's tails and 10/90 to push content back to the net of its server array. D On 14/06/2011 4:54 a.m., Seth Mattinen wrote: On 6/12/11 2:22 AM, Don Gould wrote: 100mbit is not luxury, it's something my business needs all it's customers to have to drive more uptake of my services. My customers already have 10/1 today. Now I need them to have 100/40 so they have a reason to buy other CPE that in turn drives my business. I have to ask, why not just give them symmetric speeds? I understand there are technical reasons why on DSL and cable you end up with asymmetric, but those don't apply to Ethernet delivery. ~Seth -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up. - Land Assistance...
On 12/06/2011 1:42 a.m., Lynda wrote: Mostly, I've just ignored this, As do I with most treads on this list. However I found the link in the OP's post offensive on so many different levels that I choose to put some comment in with a great deal of subtly and hopefully a little humour. Clearly, judging by the off list comments I got, some people got it and some people didn't. I'm not sure which comment in the OPs link I found most offensive, but the suggestion that most folk in small rural American towns are drug dealers and addicts was up there with the suggest that the entire reason for poor broadband in USA is the sole fault of ATT. Perhaps that's not what the article was saying. However it is the impression I took from what I read, which is what compelled me to comment. I confess that I didn't even read the entire article... by the time I got though reason 2, I was already offended enough. since it wasn't really contributing to a solution for anything I could see, and wasn't finding it as amusing to read as the author did to write. This statement, however, needs a bit of changing, sir. I am sorry the humour was lost on you. :) I did change the subject heading on purpose, specifically so people, who weren't interested in the obvious direction of the thread, could simply ignore it. I'd say that people in rural America (many of whom are my neighbors) are adept at making do, and very clever at finding solutions to the problems that the author of this piece did not. Agreed. As I come from a country that has an extremely large rural economic component and is as far from market as we are, I very much understand the need to adept and make do. Please note that the author seems to be yet another transplanted city boy, and as such, might not have been aware of how to solve this problem quickly, and in the most expedient manner, but that does not mean you should lump rural America in one large bucket... No it does not mean you should lump rural people in any bucket, being the whole point, of my first post, by suggesting that I should get help with setting up a farm in the centre of down town Manhattan, from the list. Again, it's up there with the suggestion that the only way to get broadband in rural America is to wait until one of your drugged out neighbours dies from an over dose and you can then take over the free port on the DSLAM. I should also point out that the author of the article isn't even *in* a rural setting. Contrary to popular belief, living in a small town is not rural. I've lived 5 five miles out of town, and we barely considered that rural. We had neighbors less than a quarter mile walk away. I've lived in a country where it take 3 hours to drive to your next closes neighbour, while in my own country we call a town rural when it has 3,000 people in it and the housing density is not far off the urban suburb I live in today - at which point we seem to currently consider they don't need ftth and 5mbit's of contended mobile broadband is more than enough. In addition (since my annoyance factor seems to be set on high), I'm a bit curious as to how someone living in New Zealand is so concerned with broadband access in the US. I'm interested in broadband access around the world, not just the USA. New Zealand culture is very influenced by the United States. The United States is a large trading partner from our point of view. What you do in the USA has global impact. For example if the USA says it's ok for rural folk not to have decent broadband then out countries around the world, such as my own, point to the USA as a point of reference. Same if you decide that every farmer must have 100Gbe connections. D
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.
On 12/06/2011 1:02 p.m., Owen DeLong wrote: On Jun 11, 2011, at 15:16, Jeroen van Aartjer...@mompl.net wrote: Randy Bush wrote: some of us try to get work done from home. and anyone who has worked and/or lived in a first world country thinks american 'broadband' speeds are a joke, even for a home network. I understand, but I was referring to the average home internet connection. But even for work 100Mbps seems a bit overkill for most purposes. Whole offices work fine with a mere bonded T1 at 10Mbps. Admitted it's symmetrical and is more stable. But regarding speed it's quite a bit slower than the mentioned 100Mbps home internet. Depends on the office and the user profile at home. I would be very unhappy and so would my coworkers behind a bonded T1 at 10 Mbps. However, I do admit I think my 70 Mbps at home will probably be adequate for a few years to come. Some may find this of interest: http://home.bowenvale.co.nz/wp/apps.gif and this... http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1515155 (Is there an NBN Killer App? - Australians talking about what they might use the FTTH for). With respect to home v's office, 100 v's 10... Applications such as back up may not even be attempted online in an office, which is why 10mbit is fine. As I said earlier, BIR is what 100mbit is about. In an office you have computers on for 8 hours a day. With QoS you can push data out in a controlled way. For example, when you send a 10mb email, it transfers to the office mail server 'instantly' and is then streamed out at what ever speed the QoS is letting port 25 run at. At home when you send 10mb it goes direct to the ISPs SMTP server and saturates the uplink while that's happening or QoS slows it down and the customer has to wait while their computer 'sends' the message. BIR is also about user experience. We know that when we give users a better experience they stay longer. See: http://home.bowenvale.co.nz/wp/sam where Sam Morgan talks about making sure that TradeMe.co.nz is fast so that users will stick about and use it more. At work you have limited choice. If it's slow, but you have to use it, then you will. Where as at home if it's slow, you'll give up and go read a book. Also at home we're more likely to make massive volumes of content, for example a simple photo shoot with your kid on your new digital camera can chew up 1gb in minutes (my 10mpx camera uses 1gb -- 220 shots which I can shoot off at a birthday party without even trying). How often do businesses produce that volume of content?
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.
100mbit is not luxury, it's something my business needs all it's customers to have to drive more uptake of my services. My customers already have 10/1 today. Now I need them to have 100/40 so they have a reason to buy other CPE that in turn drives my business. See: http://home.bowenvale.co.nz/wp/apps.gif On 01/1 we can't even use half those apps. Which means there is no market for any of the CPE that those apps require. That CPE is a massive global economic driver. With out the ability to use the CPE there is no driver for further development of that CPE. The basic POTS telephone has stayed the same for 3 decades. There is just about no work for anyone designing POTS CPE, there was work 3 decades ago. 4 Decades ago parents around the globe were told that IT and computers where the future. We have to keep growing our data delivery systems in order to keep pushing IT forward. Is a job in IT a luxury? On 12/06/2011 10:20 a.m., Jeroen van Aart wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: Well, you probably live in a premises with only a couple of people. A household with the standard 2.3 kids might need to stream 4.3 TV channels, Right, but now you're talking about the luxury aspect of it. And then all bets are off. The necessity would already be fulfilled with a lower speed.
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up. - Land Assistance...
'?... Today I work with open source solutions from around the globe, having lost favour with Microsoft a decade ago, my current toy is a Mikrotik router (something I know many of you on list are also playing with more and more) and my inspiration is a guy called Simon Hackett from an ISP in Australia (with 250,000 customers and 450 staff) and Michael Mallone from another Australian ISP who started his company in his car shed and is now the number two DSL telco in less than 25 years. I could go on... but I'm sure I'm already on enough plonk lists now ;) Farmer Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.
On 11/06/2011 9:34 p.m., Jeroen van Aart wrote: I don't regard simultaneously streaming 6 channels of TV and downloading the latest movie torrent in 2 minutes as a basic necessity, let alone essential. 100/40 isn't about 6 channels of TV and even less about torrents. It's about BIR not CIR. It's about dropping my HD video recorder, with 2 hours of random video recorded at todays 'family birthday party', on its 'hot shoe' and it just dumps 40gb to my back up server in the 10 minutes it takes me make a cup of coffee and check my blog. 10 minutes later I expect the transfer to be done, and I'll then put the camera (which was also charged in that time) back in the bag and away in the draw. Because I'm using CrashPlan, my back up server is actually some free space on my PC at work and also my mum's computer at her home (in another city) - not a cloud provider because I can't (choose not to) trust. (note I'm sending the back up to 2 sites at the same time) I don't want that transfer to saturate my link, but at the same time my wife is grabing a copy of the video her sister made of the same event and her brother is dropping a copy of his video on my computer (also as a CrashPlan[1] back up) from his house. My son has just flicked on his TV, has chosen a movie from iTunes and is downloading it flat out to his AppleTV[2] STB. The phone goes, it's my Dad just catching up... well actually he's Skypeing[3] me and wants a bit of help with a web site he's working on so orders up remote desktop (which uses ~4mbit if the capacity is there). Mean time my wife has flicked on our TV and chosen a film that we want to watch and that's also streaming in to our AppleTV STB. For about 30 minutes we'll be maxing out our 100/40, but I fully agree with any suggestion that with a bit of planning we really don't need more than 5mbits... But if you want to talk about planning... When my mother was a kid, my grandmother would get meat at the butcher each day. When I was a kid my mother would get meat out of the freezer in the morning. I grab what I need 10 minutes before I use it and put it in the microwave to defrost. Do we need this technology? The microwave gave me my first job in sales but today you just buy them at the supermarket. 100/40 will drive homes to use more of their spare hard disk space using crash plan or some other software that does the same thing. It will drive people to buy, use and back up their HD cameras. It will drive people buy STB's like AppleTV etc in numbers. Not just one in the family room. All these new gadgets will drive the need for much more home networking technology. It's why we need more 1's and 0's to move. D [1][2][3] - I don't represent any of these companies, but I have been looking at these products specifically with UFB in mind because they are popular/functional and slurp 1's and 0's like a V12 and gas.
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up. - Land Assistance...
Hi List, Farmer Don here... Wonder if I could get some help please? 40°46'42.77N - 73°58'0.83W I found a bit of land that I like the look of, with what appears to be a nice water reserve so my animals can drink and I can water the grass. Being from New Zealand (a farming community a bit below and east of Australia), I'm sorry but I don't know much about regulations to install irrigation systems in the area that I'm quite keen to set up my next farming venture. I'm wondering if anyone can give me some pointers? Being from Christchurch (site of two massive earthquakes) I know a reasonable amount about demolition now, so I'm not worried at all about the adjacent buildings as we can deal with those as we need to expand the farm. I'm attracted to this area for a number of reasons, mainly because of the abundant wireless broadband options across the entire property. I've done some factoring and the cash I can save by not having to invest in my own wireless network spanning across the country will mean I can pay for my new dairy milking shed within 3 years, (unlike the investment I've had to make on a family property in New Zealand where our property was out side of the reach of the local Telephone companies high speed DSL service and we were going to be limited to sub ADSL1 speeds!) After reading this post on NANog and following the link provided, it really struck me as a great place to ask for assistance. Some may be wondering why I don't want a more rural setting? I want to be able to enjoy a city life style every day, and I really don't feel that's unreasonable given the rant I hearing about the right to enjoy a rural life style while also having all the quality refinements that an urban city provides. Further, I don't see why I should have to invest in my community and why others shouldn't be focused and tasked with just doing it for me! I do hope that my desire to use some of your land for my smelly cows doesn't offend any of you, but I really think my right to enjoy looking at tall buildings every day has to be respected! Cheers Farmer Don On 10/06/2011 12:43 p.m., Jay Ashworth wrote: Even Cracked realizes this: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster That can't be good. Cheers, -- jra -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up. - Land Assistance...
Yes thank you very much Mr J for the links you provided. :) We have actually done our research, unlike the gent having a rant in the initial linked article, and were aware of the abundance of both low cost 2g, 3g and free wifi in the area. Again, as I explained it is one of the reasons for selecting settlement in the area. The savings of not having to pay for broadband access for the transceivers on each of our cows will more than off set the investment in the new milking shed (all cows are fitted with wifi/2/3g transceivers with bluetooth integrated headsets so we can do a broadcast to them telling them it's time to come in for milking). However, what does concern me is the lack of free wifi choice and the fact that only one provider is going to be delivering it and the terms they plan to offer such free access and the fact that we are generally opposed to using American Telephone and Telegraph because of their perceived alignment with some political or social groups. What we would like to see is a government mandate that all network providers in the area step up and form a long term working party for the establishment of short, mid and long term outcomes that will fully represent the interests of foreign rural farming investors such as my company. In keeping with the general tone of many technical internet mailing lists, I would also like to point out that you have not assisted in addressing the question, which I might remind you is around regulations for installation of irrigation and not the availability of free wifi from a company that very clearly has vested interests in locking my watering system investment out of the market so they can dominate the industry and impose different levels of water supply based on their shareholders interests. Farmer Don On 11/06/2011 2:23 p.m., Joly MacFie wrote: That would be http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.778547+-73.966897 Fortunately American Telephone and Telegraph are on the case http://bit.ly/jTak0Q j
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up. - Land Assistance...
Dear Mr J, Again let me thank you for engaging this issue. However again we have done our research and were well aware of the issue before making the investment choice (unlike the OP's linked article where the writer clearly hadn't researched the availability of services/resources he needed for his primary income.) I grant you that many list members may not be aware that the rural community are in fact extremely large users of technology (gps being just one small example). When we first read about the noise issues in the area we invested a large sum of capital in an RD facility to developed electronic cow bells that have integrated GPS in them so the cow knows where it is and can simply turn the bell off. The bells are now under manufacture in China and we are looking at export opportunities in many markets including the US (part of the reason for investment in the location you were kind enough to link before). Again, in keeping with list protocols, can we please focus on the regulations for installation if irrigation piping? Kindest and warmest regards Farmer Don On 11/06/2011 3:00 p.m., Joly MacFie wrote: One regulation you may run afoul of is the the new zero tolerance quiet zone enforcement Cowbells are definitely out, mooing dubious. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/06/01/nina-in-new-york-grouchiness-prevails-in-central-park/ -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: help needed - state of california needs a benchmark
Morning Mike, The *New Zealand Government* don't use speedtest.net as a benchmark. Our Government uses a consulting company to provide a range of tests that address the issues you're talking about and benchmarks are published each year. http://www.comcom.govt.nz/broadband-reports The user and network communities are not 100% happy with the way this testing is done either. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49topicid=73698 Some providers are know to fudge the results by putting QoS on the test paths. http://weathermap.karen.net.nz/ is a New Zealand academic project that shows their network performance in real time. This is a very useful site for demonstrating the sort of tools that Governments should be looking for when doing performance measuring. Recent work done by Jared Kells, in Australia, on consumer level network performance shows a very interesting picture (pictures are best for political people). http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1579142 Kells demonstrates that providers deliver very different results for national and international sites. Kells provides a set of Open Source tools to do your own testing. http://www.truenet.co.nz - John Butt - is a commercial start up providing another range of testing metrics which the user community at www.geekzone.co.nz seem to be much happier with as a proper indication of network performance. I have talked with John personally and can attest that the testing is fairly robust and addresses issues that you've raised. http://www.truenet.co.nz/how-does-it-work The recent upgrades of www.telstraclear.co.nz HFC network from DOCIS2.0 (25/2 max) to DOCIS3.0 (100/10 testing introduction speed) presented a range of challenges for John's testing. http ramp up speeds to 100mbit cause impact on test results, so John had to change the way they were testing to get a better performance presentation. Internode in Australia have learnt the hard way recently that consumer expectation of their new NBN FTTH network needs to be managed carefully. As a result of some very poor media press over the performance of an education site recently installed in Tasmania, they have engaged in quite a bit of consumer education around network performance. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/governments-broadband-not-up-to-speed-at-tasmanian-school/story-e6frg6nf-1225961150410 - http://whrl.pl/Rcyrhz - http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/user/6258Simon Hackett - Internode CEO responds. *Speedtest.net* will only provide a BIR/PIR measure, and not CIR, which is not an indicator of service quality. In New Zealand SpeedTest.net is used extensively with a number of hosting servers. The information is fundamentally flawed as you have no control over what testing the end user performs. In my case I can product three different tests from a 15/2 HFC service and get 3 different results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1133639492.png - Test 1 - The application has identified that I am located in Christchurch New Zealand so has selected a Christchurch based server for testing (www.snap.co.nz). As you can see the results show ~7.5/2.1mbits/s. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1133642520.png - Test 2 - This time I've chosen the CityLink (www.citylink.co.nz) server in Wellington New Zealand. ~6.2/1.97bits/s. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1052386636.png - Test 3 - from 12/12/10 shows ~15.1/2.15. This was tested to an Auckland, New Zealand server. I did run a set of tests this morning to the Auckland servers as well, however they are all being limited to the same numbers as the Christchurch test (1) now. None of the servers are on my providers network and performance is governed by the peering/hand overs between the networks. Christchurch - Wellington - 320km - Christchurch - Auckland - 750km straight line distances according to Google Earth. The HFC service I'm using will deliver a through put of 15/2 for some time even at peek usage times when pulling content off the providers own network. Ok, that's enough for now. I hope this helps and let me know if you need any more assistance. Cheers Don
Re: Muni Fiber Last Mile - a contrary opinion
This thread is really interesting to see what's happening in .us with power. I've been following what's going on in .au with their ftth project (doing the whole country and pulling out the legacy copper systems, both tp and hfc) and there's been a bit of talk about issues in power cuts. I'm in Christchurch.nz where we've been having earth quakes every day, it's interesting to see the mobile networks go to half service (2G, no 3G on one network yesterday) when the quakes take out the suburban line transformers. D On 27/12/2010 5:07 p.m., Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jared Mauchja...@puck.nether.net said: You are likely already at the mercy of some local hut for your dialtone. Very few things home run to the co these days. It's unlikely any hut has more than 24 hours of battery. The ATT (formerly BellSouth) cabinets around here mostly have natural gas generators included, so they almost never go out. The cable companies, on the other hand, might have enough battery to last through a brownout. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.bowenvale.co.nz/ipv6 - Taking on the IPv6 Challenge!
