Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-08 Thread Douglas Fischer via NANOG
Exactly Mike!

The Idea would be to define some base levels, to make the creations of
route-filtering simpler to everyone in the world.
And what comes beyond that, is in charge of each autonomous system.

It would make the scripting and templates easier and would avoid
fat-fingers.


Em ter., 8 de set. de 2020 às 15:35, Mike Hammett 
escreveu:

> How I see the OP's intent is to create a BCP of what defined communities
> have what effect instead of everyone just making up whatever they draw out
> of a hat, simplifying this process for everyone.
>
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> *From: *"Tom Beecher via NANOG" 
> *To: *"Douglas Fischer" 
> *Cc: *"NANOG" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:30:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker -
> Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'
>
> BGP Large Communities ( https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8195 ) already
> provides for anyone to define the exact handling you wish.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:57 AM Douglas Fischer via NANOG 
> wrote:
>
>> Most of us have already used some BGP community policy to no-export some
>> routes to some where.
>>
>> On the majority of IXPs, and most of the Transit Providers, the very
>> common community tell to route-servers and routers "Please do no-export
>> these routes to that ASN" is:
>>
>>  -> 0:
>>
>> So we could say that this is a de-facto standard.
>>
>>
>> But the Policy equivalent to "Please, export these routes only to that
>> ASN" is very varied on all the IXPs or Transit Providers.
>>
>>
>> With that said, now comes some questions:
>>
>> 1 - Beyond being a de-facto standard, there is any RFC, Public Policy, or
>> something like that, that would define 0: as "no-export-to"
>> standard?
>>
>> 2 - What about reserving some 16-bits ASN to use :
>> as "export-only-to" standard?
>> 2.1 - Is important to be 16 bits, because with (RT) extended communities,
>> any ASN on the planet could be the target of that policy.
>> 2.2 - Would be interesting some mnemonic number like 1000 / 1 or so.
>>
>> --
>> Douglas Fernando Fischer
>> Engº de Controle e Automação
>>
>
>

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Douglas Fernando Fischer
Engº de Controle e Automação


BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-08 Thread Douglas Fischer via NANOG
Most of us have already used some BGP community policy to no-export some
routes to some where.

On the majority of IXPs, and most of the Transit Providers, the very common
community tell to route-servers and routers "Please do no-export these
routes to that ASN" is:

 -> 0:

So we could say that this is a de-facto standard.


But the Policy equivalent to "Please, export these routes only to that ASN"
is very varied on all the IXPs or Transit Providers.


With that said, now comes some questions:

1 - Beyond being a de-facto standard, there is any RFC, Public Policy, or
something like that, that would define 0: as "no-export-to"
standard?

2 - What about reserving some 16-bits ASN to use : as
"export-only-to" standard?
2.1 - Is important to be 16 bits, because with (RT) extended communities,
any ASN on the planet could be the target of that policy.
2.2 - Would be interesting some mnemonic number like 1000 / 1 or so.

-- 
Douglas Fernando Fischer
Engº de Controle e Automação