Re: Typical additional latency for CGN?

2012-10-12 Thread Everett, Thomas E.

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- Original Message -
From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 10:29 PM
To: Tom Limoncelli t...@whatexit.org
Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Typical additional latency for CGN?

On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 16:47:18 -0400, Tom Limoncelli said:
 Have there been studies on how much latency CGN adds to a typical
 internet user?   I'd also be interested in anecdotes.

Should we include the time spent talking to the help desk trying to resolve
double-NAT'ing issues in the latency?



Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.

2011-06-11 Thread Everett, Thomas E.
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- Original Message -
From: TJ [mailto:trej...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:39 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 05:34, Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote:

 Ricardo Ferreira wrote:

 Funny, how in the title refers to the Internet globally when the article
 is
 specific about the USA.

 I live in europe and we have at home 100Mbps . Mid sized city of 500k
 people. Some ISPs even spread WiFi across town so that subscribers can
 have
 internet access outside their homes.


 Though it's nice to have why would one *need* 100 Mbps at home?


First, since when is Why? important/relevant? :)
Second, working from home - video conferences while working with 10-30mb
(mostly) Powerpoint files (that people keep insisting on emailing multiple
copies of) ... and to be blunt, my time is important.  If I can get that
file in seconds instead of minutes that speed is important to me.
Third, 4 windows laptops, 1 Ubuntu laptop, 2 phones, 1 tablet and 2 XBOXes,
1 TV - all of which get updates at certain points and are
streaming/downloading various content simultaneously.  And if my console
(game or TV) is getting an update while I want to be playing/watching,
(again) seconds instead of minutes is important :).

Note that it isn't the specific speed that is important - it is relative.
 If a noticeable number of Internet users have access at a certain speed 1)
services can be built that take advantage of that and 2) those w/o that
speed are even more left out.



/TJ