Proposed Global Policy for Autonomous System Numbers - Final Call for Comments and Background Report
Proposed Global Policy for Autonomous System Numbers - Final Call for
Comments and Background Report
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-23jul10-en.htm
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From: IPv3.com ipv3@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:45 AM
Subject: ASN IANA MLM Leasing Business Out-Dated - Now Automated
To: asn-proposal-2...@icann.org
ASN IANA MLM Leasing Business Out-Dated - Now Automated
Selling or leasing UNIQUE binary values is no longer viable because
.COM owners can derive them FREE
With IPv3 and IPv16 a simple 6-bit Alphabet (Symbol Set) is used for
mapping UNIQUE binary values
64 symbols - 6-bits - {[0-9][A-Z][a-z]-.}
A 5-Letter .COM owner can create a UNIQUE 30-bit ASN for FREE via the
6-bit Alphabet
If upper and lower case symbols are used, several FREE ASNs can be generated
A $6 annual fee for the .COM registration covers all of the costs
needed to generate UNIQUE binary values
The 4-Letter .COM owners can generate several FREE 24-bit prefixes
(called /24s) for IPv* Addressing
ASN IANA MLM Leasing Business Out-Dated - Now Automated
4096 Trending TLD selections are also automated
ICANN and the RIRs can be Dissolved
33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?
33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care? As some people (who understand IPv4) know, there is a SINGLE spare/unused bit in the IPv4 header that can be set to 0 or 1. Some religions require that it be set to 0. Adult content is marked with a 1. That single bit can be viewed as common between the Source and Destination creating a 33rd bit of addressing. Since it is a single bit, it is welded together for both Source and Destination. 0-Normal 1-Evil/Other/Adult/XXX In anticipation of expanding to 33-bit addressing, another bit was deprecated years ago. It can now be used to UNWELD the EVIL bit. That would allow EVIL to be only for the Source. The Destination would have its own EVIL bit. If two bits are used, then the potential to communicate between the previously welded address spaces arises. Some enforcement could still be used in Edge Network Elements to make sure both bits are 0 or both 1. Enforcements are hard to maintain and full 33-bit addressing may emerge. As an aside, NAT was primarily added to improve the .NET Architecture with a Flash Upgrade-able Network Element. It is a shame that IPv6 salesman do not seem to understand Architecture. They continue on the [NAT is Evil] path. NANOG can play an important role in shaping how Address Plans for North America evolve. Since Network Elements are going to be flash upgraded for the new DNS, it is easy to (unweld/change) the 33-bit addressing for .XXX The 33-bit addressing works into the 66-bit Triple-Tagged VLAN addressing with Content Rating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1Q The Locator is 33-bits and the ID is 33-bits. Both are UNIQUE. Both fit in the IPv4 foot-print. The three-ring circus architecture emerges. (((Core)Edge)Fringe) does NANOG care? is NANOG now Fringe ?
NANOG Operational Audit of IPv4+ End-to-End L3 Transport in North America
NANOG Operational Audit of IPv4+ End-to-End L3 Transport in North America 1. To deploy and operate a network there may be network elements (aka NATs) that are used by network operators to upgrade versions to help with audits. 2. L3 End-to-End is only part of the story. What about Hop Count ? Lag Latency...band-width 3. In North America the Customer DeMarc is commonly to a Linux-based CPE Router (WRT-54GL is one example) 4. For FCC purposes and other audits, the DeMarc for L3 IPv4+ has to be consistent to avoid comparing apples and oranges. 5. It may be that large parts of the IPv4+ Spectrum allocated to North America no longer qualifies as part of the L3 End-to-End Transport (and never did?). http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml 6. Before ISPs run off chasing the IPv6 Brokers-duJour, it may be prudent to first make sure their IPv4+ networks still are part of the L3 End-to-End Transport. NANOG Operational Audit of IPv4+ End-to-End L3 Transport in North America
Is NANOG == ARIN ? or North America in Scope ?
Is NANOG == ARIN ? or North America in Scope ? == What do the following /8 ?Owners? pay for their CyberLand ? http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt 004/8 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 1992-12 LEGACY 008/8 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 1992-12 LEGACY 032/8 ATT Global Network Services 1994-06 LEGACY 035/8 MERIT Computer Network 1994-04 LEGACY === In the recent Annual Pass Over of /8 Audits it does not appear that /8 Utilization warrants ALL to migrate to 34-bit IPv4++ Space (1+32+1) Also, in some cases, the companies may no longer exist? 016/8 Digital Equipment Corporation 1994-11 LEGACY 045/8 Interop Show Network 1995-01 LEGACY 044/8 Amateur Radio Digital Communications 1992-07 LEGACY BTW, If ARIN has a $10,000,000 HR Budget and 10 people that is an average of $1,000,000 per person. Is that Cost Recovery ? http://bit.ly/17QKAR http://bit.ly/ametyG Why is IN-ADDR.ARPA any different from a $10 .COM Registration ?
Using Semi-FREE 64-bit Allocations with IPv6
Using Semi-FREE 64-bit Allocations with IPv6 Why would anyone be paying for IPv6 Address Space ? With the 64-bit Address Plan huge allocations are ?$10? per year. 12+18+30+4 maps to LL+LLL+L+4 Use the 64-symbol Alphabet: 0-9A-Za-z-. for 6-bits per L Example: LL=US LLL=COM L=ICANN US_COM_ICANN_X is a unique 64-bit Allocation FREE with the .COM domain 2002:[IPv4]::LL_LLL_L_X
Likely /8 Scenario - Carriers will TAKE what they want ?
Likely /8 Scenario - Carriers will TAKE what they want ? As /8s are needed by Carriers (not ISPs) they will likely be able to just take them. Who will stop them. They have the Imperial Walker Routers Gear. http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_%28Star_Wars%29
More Likely Scenario AUTOMATED IPv4+ Management will CHURN /8s ?
More Likely Scenario AUTOMATED IPv4+ Management will CHURN /8s ? Imagine this table times ?? 16 http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt Imagine a Fully-Automated Management System that can hand YOU a /18 in a /12 Imagine there are NO RIRs or Labor Union Bosses or PIMPS driving around in Pink Cadillacs
RIRs are More Interested in Selling NEW than Pre-Owned?
RIRs are More Interested in Selling NEW than Pre-Owned? It is a myth that IPv4 is out of space. It has the same space it started with if 32-bits are routed. More bits can easily be used for routing purposes before switching to IPv6. People seem to be happy with 34 bits, one extra bit at each end. 1+32+1 RIRs may not like the reality of Selling Pre-Owned Vehicles There are many problems out there. http://www.iblocklist.com/lists.php The push to Sell Brand New Virgin IPv6 Space makes RIR life easy. Easy money.
There is no finite resource that people can't waste.
There is no finite resource that people can't waste. There is no finite resource that people can't make even more scarce Artificially Scarce ? and then Profit very nicely from the Artificial Scarcity related myths
NANOG Seems to be Dominated by NON-North American People ?
NANOG Seems to be Dominated by NON-North American People ? ...odd ARIN seems to have a similar situation ...odd By the way, on likely scenarios, North America could become a Walled Garden making many /8s available for decades. http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt The rest of the world would then have IPv6 Proxy Access. That could be a major boost to the U.S. economy with Information Export Fees. This could be a Great Time to Start an ISP in .USA - Plenty of IPv4+ Address Space. ...and fools are wasting their time and money on IPv6
IPv4+ 2010 Routable /8s for North America
IPv4+ 2010 Routable /8s for North America 12 63 64 65 68 69 70 71 72 74 75 76 99 139 151 192 199 204 205 206 207 216 ...eventually things will Free Up http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt
Was a 1956 Video Phone User - On the Internet ?
Based on these ASCII notes...(c. 1995 cave paintings)... http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1775.txt Was a 1956 Video Phone User - On the Internet ? http://www.porticus.org/bell/telephones-picturephone.html Is a 2010 HDTV (ATSC DLNA) viewer - On the Internet ? Note for IPv6 archeologists...Mobile Digital TV went with IPv4+Shim http://www.atsc.org Funding of the so-called Eco-System (aka Idle Rich Society) also appears to define The Internet in some circles. It appears 100+ people live off of Internet Fees for doing largely nothing. They of course travel to explain why that structure is essential. Is it ?
Tidbits the NANOG Community
Tidbits the NANOG Community ... with respect to jumping from 32-bits to 64-bits many UNIX-to-UNIX users have noted... ONE more bit (33) may be enough to distinguish Legacy from New. The bit would go on the Left as opposed to Right which would double the existing mess. ... Linux has the added bit ready in the SPARE bit and the Left-most TTL bit deprecated to 0 years ago. A Source+Destination pair is needed for full interchange between Legacy and New. A single bit would be isolated planes. ... Based on a survey of IPv4 Address Space the NANOG Community does not appear to involve many critical back-bones or infrastructure. In some circles that would not be considered On the Internet. YMMV
As the NANOG Community Moves to IPv6...
As the NANOG Community Moves to IPv6... ... it might be a Public Service to post the IPv4 /8s made available. ... without that, Carriers may [assume] they are no longer in use and start using them for their expansion ... the DNS records of course flag your move to IPv6
[Nanog-futures] Will MPLS++ Delay the Need for IPv6 ?
Will MPLS++ Delay the Need for IPv6 ? Consumers will be able to subscribe to Virtual IPv4 Internets. KIDS on one and XXX on another. PBS may be in the middle. IPv4 experts IPv6 advocates certainly understand that Bloat Bandwidth are factors to consider in networks. MPLS adds 32-bit Labels BEFORE an IP packet. A simplified Label is 24-bits with 4 Symbols and an 8-bit TTL. With the extra TTL the IPv4 TTL becomes less critical offering more bits for expansion. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3032 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Label |Label | TTL | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Label Alphabet: 0-9 A-Z a@ b♠ c© d♦ e= f☺ g h# i| j♫ k♣ l( m₪ n! o* p% q♥ r) s$ t~ u_ v^ w? x☼ y¥ z▒ -™ .® ~ 6 bits per Symbol ~ 64 Symbols ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
What is The Internet TCP/IP or UNIX-to-UNIX ?
What is The Internet TCP/IP or UNIX-to-UNIX ? As of 2010, many people would likely answer that question based on the Services they use as opposed to a religious adoration for TCP/IP. What if TCP is removed ? and IP is completely re-worked in the same 160-bit foot-print as IPv4 ? Would 64-bit Addressing last a few years ? IPv6 is a loser because everyone has to carry the overhead of bloated packets. It is a one-size-fits-all take it or leave it solution. People leave it. The real (new?) need is ONE-WAY streaming to carry ATSC to HDTVs. That can be done with 64-bit addressing in an IPv4 footprint. The Destination Address is most critical to deliver the AV show to the right viewer. IPv6 is too little, too late, in too big a package and at a high price. UNIX-based CPE is now under $50. Anyone can download the complete open source and all the tools to build it. http://www.linksysbycisco.com/gpl UNIX-to-UNIX Service-Based solutions pre-date many ARPA DARPA DOD funding programs run by people who do not write code, they write contracts and purchase orders. What is The Internet TCP/IP or UNIX-to-UNIX ?
