Re: juniper.net down?

[Jeff Shultz]

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 11:15 AM  wrote:

> juniper.net down?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Aaron
>
> aar...@gvtc.com
>
>
>

Website is up from AS12044 (Oregon) at 11:25am Pacific.

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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

[Jeff Shultz]

I think we have a winner here - we don't necessarily need 1G down, but we
do need to get the upload speeds up to symmetrical 50/50, 100/100 etc...
there are enough people putting in HD security cameras and the like that
upstream speeds are beginning to be an issue.

On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 4:37 AM David Bass  wrote:

> The real problem most users experience isn’t that they have a gig, or even
> 100Mb of available download bandwidth…it’s that they infrequently are able
> to use that full bandwidth due to massive over subscription .
>
> The other issue is the minimal upload speed.  It’s fairly easy to consume
> the 10Mb that you’re typically getting as a residential customer.  Even
> “business class” broadband service has a pretty poor upload bandwidth
> limit.
>
> We are a pretty high usage family, and 100/10 has been adequate, but
> there’s been times when we are pegged at the 10 Mb upload limit, and we
> start to see issues.
>
> I’d say 25/5 is a minimum for a single person.
>
> Would 1 gig be nice…yeah as long as the upload speed is dramatically
> increased as part of that.  We would rarely use it, but that would likely
> be sufficient for a long time.  I wouldn’t pay for the extra at this point
> though.
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 8:20 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>
>>
>> Remember, this rulemaking is for 1.1 million locations with the "worst"
>> return on investment. The end of the tail of the long tail.  Rural and
>> tribal locations which aren't profitable to provide higher speed
>> broadband.
>>
>> These locations have very low customer density, and difficult to serve.
>>
>> After the Sandwich Isles Communications scandal, gold-plated proposals
>> will be viewed with skepticism.  While a proposal may have a lower total
>> cost of ownership over decades, the business case is the cheapest for
>> the first 10 years of subsidies.  [massive over-simplification]
>>
>> Historically, these projects have lack of timely completion (abandoned,
>> incomplete), and bad (overly optimistic?) budgeting.
>>
>

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Re: home router battery backup

[Jeff Shultz]

+180v and -180v for a total of 360v. At really low amperage. Still makes a
respectable bang if you short it on the MDF. It gets converted on-site,
either in the DSLAM or in a separate box. I think it's 12v to the ONT.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 3:30 PM Michael Thomas  wrote:

>
> On 1/17/22 2:39 PM, Jordan wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 02:06:39PM -0800, Michael Thomas wrote:
> >> For my ISP, they maintain backup power for both DSL and POTS.  I
> >> suspect that for a lot of DSL that would hold true because it's
> >> relatively easy for them to power since they already have the
> >> battery backup requirements for POTS.  The setup they have here
> >> is a DSLAM and SIP->POTS termination in a pedestal with fiber
> >> backhaul.  They use the old copper that used to go back to the CO
> >> to power the pedestal.
> > Do you happen to know what voltage is placed across the copper pairs
> > for this purpose?  Maybe 130V like T1 span repeaters?  More?
> >
> > I used to have three POTS lines at home from BellSouth, before the
> > AT acquisition, with DSL on one of them, all supposedly served
> > from the same Lucent SLC.  One of these, the one originally used
> > for DSL, would always go down for both voice and data when the SLC
> > lost power-- no DC, no dialtone, no DSL, while the other two
> > remained up.  Despite several claims of a resolution, this was
> > never properly fixed, so eventually I just had them move DSL over
> > to one of the unaffected lines.
> >
> > I could never understand what failure mode would result in losing
> > just a single POTS line like this while the carrier equipment was
> > running from battery, while others remained in service.
> > Speculating, perhaps only the A or B-side was backed up, and an
> > open diode or other defect caused a single ine card to draw only
> > from the "other" source?  But, at this time (circa 2000) the remote
> > DSLAM was definitely a separate piece of equipment, right, joined
> > to a shared subscriber pair with passive splitters?
> >
>
> I have absolutely no idea, but if I had to guess it is the same voltage
> as the local loop but I suppose they could use ring voltage too.
>
> Mike, definitely not a EE
>
>

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Re: home router battery backup

[Jeff Shultz]

As one of those Telco/ISP's, it's growing more and more likely that
DSL/POTS are now on the same card and they are all tied into the 48V
battery and generator protected plant. And Alpha Electronics is probably
selling a lot of those Power over Copper systems for powering remote Calix
E3-12C and E3-48 DSLAMs (as well as their competitor's equivalents), as
well as powering the ONT in any building with more than one dwelling unit
connected to it.

BTW, Calix ONTs default to "Disable on battery = on" for the GigE ports -
it's checkbox in the config to turn that off so they stay up when the power
is out. Which we do uncheck. Particularly since we've going increasingly
VOIP and our employees can connect remotely. Sadly, I suspect that trying
to get a major telco to go in and uncheck that box for you would be the
equivalent to talking to a wall.

As to the original poster's request, after wildfires, ice storms, and wind
storms of the past year and a half, and lumberjacks clearing trees damaged
by those events and dropping them on the power lines since then, more and
more of our customers are investing in backup power solutions, even if it
is just a UPS to level out the brownouts. But it still is probably not a
significant percentage of the total.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 2:08 PM Michael Thomas  wrote:

>
> On 1/12/22 3:11 PM, Scott T Anderson via NANOG wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> Thanks very much for all the responses throughout the day. They are very
> helpful. Your (collective) answers triggered a couple follow-on questions:
>
>
>
> For those individuals with backup battery power for their modem/router, do
> they maintain Internet access throughout a power outage (as long as their
> backup power solution works)? I.e., does the rest of the ISP network
> maintain service throughout a power outage?
>
> For my ISP, they maintain backup power for both DSL and POTS. I suspect
> that for a lot of DSL that would hold true because it's relatively easy for
> them to power since they already have the battery backup requirements for
> POTS. The setup they have here is a DSLAM and SIP->POTS termination in a
> pedestal with fiber backhaul. They use the old copper that used to go back
> to the CO to power the pedestal.
>
> Mike
>
>

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Re: DNS hijack?

[Jeff Shultz]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:30 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer 
wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 09:44:04PM +,
>  Richard  wrote
>  a message of 37 lines which said:
>
> > The second of these is returning the 208.nnn IPnumber for your
> > a-record:
> >
> >dig @VOYAGER.VISER.NET 2dpnr.org
> >
> >2dpnr.org. 300 IN A 208.91.197.132
>
> It depends on where you are (from my resolver, I get
> 64.130.197.11). This is because the name voyager.viser.net is not
> stable yet. Depending on your resolver, it points to 64.130.200.16 -
> which seems to give correct answers - or to 208.91.197.132 - which
> replies even for nonexisting domain names.
>
> Lesson: don't use a name as an argument to dig's @
>


I think 208.91.197.132 (Network Solution's domain bucket) needs to go in
everyone's troubleshooting notebook as a sign there is an expired domain
somewhere affecting whatever you have going wrong.

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Re: DNS hijack?

[Jeff Shultz]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 7:07 AM Matthew Petach 
wrote:

>
> I suspect it's more a case of
>
> domain foo.com provides DNS service for several other domains,
> including bar.com.
>
> bar.com is fully paid up.
>
> foo.com doesn't get paid up on time; expires, but is quickly
> re-claimed and paid up again.
>
> queries for bar.com suddenly show up as "this domain is
> available" due to foo.com (which provides DNS for bar.com)
> having briefly gone into the expired state.  Users of bar.com
> are (rightly) confused, as bar.com was never in a jeopardy
> state.
>
> We'll see if Jeff confirms my suspicion of what happened
> in this case.   ^_^;
>
> Matt
>
>

That's exactly what happened, exacerbated by foo.com's domain registration
being held in the account of a now retired employee, so we got no
notifications on it (his email was... somewhat personalized over 20+ years
of managing it).

I still think that this is not the correct way for NetSol to handle this
situation, particularly since the pages they put up look like phishbait
designed by Austin Powers.

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Re: DNS hijack?

[Jeff Shultz]

Yeah, apparently when a domain expires, a lot of DNS queries to domains in
that domain's DNS server... get redirected to a Network Solutions "this is
expired" website at that IP.
Even though those domains are perfectly legit and paid up. Or so it was
explained to me and how it appeared.

Anything I could say about my opinion of that might be actionable, or at
least inflammatory, so I'll stop now. The original problem has been
corrected.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 1:40 PM Stephane Bortzmeyer 
wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 01:28:07PM -0800,
>  Jeff Shultz  wrote
>  a message of 105 lines which said:
>
> > I hit my registrar, DirectNic, and found I'm good through 2023. They
> > pulled up DNS checker and found that a bunch of DNS servers were
> > showing 208.91.197.132 as the IP for the domain. It's actually in
> > 64.130.197.x .
> >
> > I'm wondering if I was the only one?
>
> No, you're not. Half of the RIPE Atlas probes see the wrong address:
>
> % blaeu-resolve -r 100 --type A 2dpnr.org
> [64.130.197.11] : 59 occurrences
> [208.91.197.132] : 41 occurrences
> Test #33310635 done at 2021-11-11T21:38:30Z
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Re: DNS hijack?

[Jeff Shultz]

Never mind, looks like an expired domain issue. Someone didn't remind
someone else.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 1:28 PM Jeff Shultz  wrote:

> Okay, so this is anecdotal, but since the domain belongs to me it's more
> than a little annoying.
>
> I got some calls that one of my domains, 2dpnr.org was going to a page
> that said it was Network Solutions and that my domain was available for
> renew or purchase.
>
> I hit my registrar, DirectNic, and found I'm good through 2023. They
> pulled up DNS checker and found that a bunch of DNS servers were showing
> 208.91.197.132 as the IP for the domain. It's actually in 64.130.197.x .
>
> I'm wondering if I was the only one?
>
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DNS hijack?

[Jeff Shultz]

Okay, so this is anecdotal, but since the domain belongs to me it's more
than a little annoying.

I got some calls that one of my domains, 2dpnr.org was going to a page that
said it was Network Solutions and that my domain was available for renew or
purchase.

I hit my registrar, DirectNic, and found I'm good through 2023. They pulled
up DNS checker and found that a bunch of DNS servers were showing
208.91.197.132 as the IP for the domain. It's actually in 64.130.197.x .

I'm wondering if I was the only one?

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Re: Disaster Recovery Process

[Jeff Shultz]

7. Make sure any access controlled rooms have physical keys that are
available at need - and aren't secured by the same access control that they
are to circumvent. .
8. Don't make your access control dependent on internet access - always
have something on the local network  it can fall back to.

That last thing, that apparently their access control failed, locking
people out when either their outward facing DNS and/or BGP routes went
goodbye, is perhaps the most astounding thing to me - making your access
control into an IoT device without (apparently) a quick workaround for a
failure in the "I" part.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 6:01 AM Jared Mauch  wrote:

>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Jorge Amodio  wrote:
> >
> > How come such a large operation does not have an out of bound access in
> case of emergencies ???
> >
> >
>
> I mentioned to someone yesterday that most OOB systems _are_ the
> internet.  It doesn’t always seem like you need things like modems or
> dial-backup, or access to these services, except when you do it’s
> critical/essential.
>
> A few reminders for people:
>
> 1) Program your co-workers into your cell phone
> 2) Print out an emergency contact sheet
> 3) Have a backup conference bridge/system that you test
>   - if zoom/webex/ms are down, where do you go?  Slack?  Google meet?
> Audio bridge?
>   - No judgement, but do test the system!
> 4) Know how to access the office and who is closest.
>   - What happens if they are in the hospital, sick or on vacation?
> 5) Complacency is dangerous
>   - When the tools “just work” you never imagine the tools won’t work.
> I’m sure the lessons learned will be long internally.
>   - I hope they share them externally so others can learn.
> 6) No really, test the backup process.
>
>
>
> * interlude *
>
> Back at my time at 2914 - one reason we all had T1’s at home was largely
> so we could get in to the network should something bad happen.  My home IP
> space was in the router ACLs.  Much changed since those early days as this
> network became more reliable.  We’ve seen large outages in the past 2 years
> of platforms, carriers, etc.. (the Aug 30th 2020 issue is still firmly in
> my memory).
>
> Plan for the outages and make sure you understand your playbook.  It may
> be from snow day to all hands on deck.  Test it at least once, and ideally
> with someone who will challenge a few assumptions (eg: that the cell
> network will be up)
>
> - Jared



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Re: facebook outage

[Jeff Shultz]

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:49 PM Baldur Norddahl 
wrote:

>
>
> man. 4. okt. 2021 23.33 skrev Bill Woodcock :
>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> They’re starting to pick themselves back up off the floor in the last
>> two or three minutes.  A few answers getting out.  I imagine it’ll take a
>> while before things stabilize, though.
>> >
>> > nd we’re back:
>> >
>> > WoodyNet-2:.ssh woody$ dig www.facebook.com @9.9.9.9
>>
>> So that was, what…  15:50 UTC to 21:05 UTC, more or less…  five hours and
>> fifteen minutes.
>>
>> That’s a lot of hair burnt all the way to the scalp, and some
>> third-degree burns beyond that.
>>
>> Maybe they’ll get one or two independent secondary authoritatives, so
>> this doesn’t happen again.  :-)
>>
>
>
> We have had dns back for a while here but the site is still down. Not
> counting this as over yet.
>
>
>
>
I'm getting part of my news feed and notifications. Can't post yet, and
clicking on something usually sends you back to the "Something is broken"
message.

So, no - it's not back up yet. But it's starting to twitch

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Re: facebook outage

[Jeff Shultz]

Now they just need to get the site itself back up.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:25 PM Bill Woodcock  wrote:

>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
> >
> > They’re starting to pick themselves back up off the floor in the last
> two or three minutes.  A few answers getting out.  I imagine it’ll take a
> while before things stabilize, though.
>
> nd we’re back:
>
> WoodyNet-2:.ssh woody$ dig www.facebook.com @9.9.9.9
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> www.facebook.com @9.9.9.9
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 32839
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.facebook.com.  IN  A
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.facebook.com.   3420IN  CNAME
> star-mini.c10r.facebook.com.
> star-mini.c10r.facebook.com. 6  IN  A   157.240.19.35
>
> ;; Query time: 13 msec
> ;; SERVER: 9.9.9.9#53(9.9.9.9)
> ;; WHEN: Mon Oct 04 23:20:41 CEST 2021
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 90
>
>
> -Bill
>
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Re: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021)

[Jeff Shultz]

All I know is that I am getting a lot fewer bogus calls on my cell phone
than I was this time last month.

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 06:17 Ryan Finnesey via NANOG  wrote:

> This should help with Robo calls a lot.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG  On
> Behalf Of Sean Donelan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:31 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021)
>
>
> STIR/SHAKEN Broadly Implemented Starting Today
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/stirshaken-broadly-implemented-starting-today
>
> WASHINGTON, June 30, 2021—FCC Acting Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel today
> announced that the largest voice service providers are now using
> STIR/SHAKEN caller ID authentication standards in their IP networks, in
> accordance with the deadline set by the FCC. This widespread implementation
> helps protect consumers against malicious spoofed robocalls and helps law
> enforcement track bad actors. The STIR/SHAKEN standards serve as a common
> digital language used by phone networks, allowing valid information to pass
> from provider to provider which, among other things, informs blocking tools
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Re: AW: OVH datacenter SBG2 in Strasbourg on fire 

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That'll work. :-)

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 2:10 PM Sabri Berisha  wrote:

> - On Mar 10, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Jeff Shultz 
> wrote:
>
> The OVH datacenter is (was) in France. I bet you 10 bucks that the
>> fire department was on strike.
>
> Report I saw had the fire department on site in 3 minutes of the call.
> They even had a German-manned fireboat "Europa 1" working the fire from the
> water side.
>
> That's pretty impressive. It does make me wonder how long it took for them
> to be notified, and why on earth the fire spread so fast that the entire DC
> was lost...
>
> And because, for once, the French were not on strike, I donated $10 to the
> American Red Cross.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: AW: OVH datacenter SBG2 in Strasbourg on fire 

[Jeff Shultz]

Report I saw had the fire department on site in 3 minutes of the call. They
even had a German-manned fireboat "Europa 1" working the fire from the
water side.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 11:37 AM Sabri Berisha 
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> - On Mar 10, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Bryan Holloway br...@shout.net wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > Fire Department was there in under five minutes.
>
> I assume your Enron DC was in the U.S.?
>
> The OVH datacenter is (was) in France. I bet you 10 bucks that the
> fire department was on strike.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: A letter from the CEO

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On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:21 AM Mark Tinka  wrote:

>
>
> On 11/23/20 18:14, Thomas Scott wrote:
>
> "Terrorbits" sounds like a 3 year old unplugging a router - over and over
>
>
> Because of dead wi-fi, or just for giggles :-)?
>
> Mark.
>

Pets. I'm pretty sure the cat was the culprit for a tech call last week,
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Verizon or Verizon Wireless contact

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Looking for a contact with a clue at Verizon/Wireless who can help me with
a problem, to wit, Verizon is blocking calls from our landline customers to
one of their local wireless prefixes. We've got the error that the Verizon
switch gives ("Welcome to Verizon your call can not be completed as dialed.
Announcement for switch 3 0 dash 2.)

Any publicly available numbers or tech support just leads me in circles. I
figure if I keep at it long enough, I'll collect the whole set of their
toll free numbers... but I'd prefer not to.

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Re: Contact at Ubiquiti Networks?

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On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 3:40 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale 
wrote:

> I disagree, Mel.
>
> Your quoting of exceptions, even if they were correct, doesn't invalidate
> the generalization that stock price is linked to product marketability.
>
> You can think of it in terms of data science: product marketability is a
> good predictor of stock price.
>
>
I'd refine it slightly - the market's _impression_ of product marketability
is a good predictor of stock price.

That would include Mel's exceptions, I believe.

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Re: Huawei on Mount Everest

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On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:20 AM Glen Kent  wrote:
>
> https://telecoms.com/504051/huawei-and-china-mobile-stick-a-5g-base-station-on-mount-everest/
>
> Why dont we leave the Everest alone? OTOH, we can now have tiktok videos and 
> latest instagram posts from the summit.
>
> Yippe. Just when you think things cant get worse, they sink deeper.

What's the over/under on the first synchonized dance video from the
top of Everest?

Bonus points if it includes surgical masks.

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Re: Are underground utility markers essential workers?

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Since in our case they are Outside Plant Tech's who are assigned the
duties as needed, they are essential workers.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:59 AM Sean Donelan  wrote:
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>
> Utility markers don't get the recognition they deserve.  If they aren't
> essential workers, they should be and get hazard pay.
>
> They help protect everyone's fiber and cables and pipes that go boom.
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Re: Command and Control Centres | COVID-19

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On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 7:53 AM Scott E. MacKenzie  wrote:
>
> All,
>
> This question has arisen and I was wondering if I could request some
> feedback from the community.  We operate a 24x7x365 Command and
> Control Centre that provides mission critical services (Security
> Operations, Network Operations, and Enterprise Management) as does
> many on this list.
>
> How many on the list have sent all personnel home using work from home
> practices and home many have opted to run skeleton crews while
> implementing tight social distancing restrictions?  How many are
> operating status quo?
>
> We are trying to find a balanced position and I was wondering what is
> the communities position on this topic?
>
>
> Scott

We're tiny - only a 3 person shop. But so far it's been the two
workerbees rotating between home (we have VOIP phones and VPN access)
and the office, and the boss is in or out on his own call. And we all
have boxes of gloves.

One of the workerbees does the majority of fiber hanging, and he'll
come in in the morning to do the day's worth of that if needed when
he's on his "home" week.

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Re: Scientists predict more major hurricanes than normal in 2020 season

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:50 PM Scott Weeks  wrote:

> --- m...@mtcc.com wrote:
> From: Michael Thomas 
>
> And a comet too!
>
> https://www.cnet.com/news/brightening-comet-atlas-could-soon-lift-your-gaze-and-spirits-just-a-little/
> 
>
>
> Relatively well prepared for a hurricane hit, but
> prepared for a comet hit?  Haven't started that
> prep yet... ;-)
>
> scott

Really only one way to prep for a comet hit: Proper stretching so you
can kiss  yourself... goodbye at the appropriate moment.

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Re: CISA critical infrastructure letters

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We've been told to make sure we have company ID (which has a photo,
albeit an old one) and a business card on us as well as the letter(s).

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 11:38 AM Tim Požár  wrote:
>
> They are so open ended, they are really useless.  Not sure why they
> didn't issue this with a company affiliation, etc to nail it down to say
> credentials that the person may have with them.
>
> Back in my Broadcast Engineering days, I would get passes issued by the
> local LE such as the SF Police department or as a "Registered Disaster
> Service Worker" issued by the State of California.  Each of these would
> have my name, photo etc.  These were respected and got me through
> numerous police lines in the past.
>
> https://www.lns.com/house/pozar/laminates/
>
> On 3/25/20 11:20 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
> > The CISA critical infrastructure letters are a courtesy request letter.
> > If people abuse its purpose, local officials do not need to extend any
> > courtesy and can deny access.
> >
> > The CISA letter is only for "providing emergency communications
> > sustainment and restoration support to critical communications
> > infrastructure facilities."
> >
> > It is NOT a general purpose, ignore anything or go anywhere letter.
> >
> > Do NOT abuse the courtesy or no one will extend the courtesy.



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Re: Frontier Pennsylvania

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You don't have a PUC?

http://www.puc.state.pa.us/filing_resources/filing_complaints.aspx

8 months exceeds my friendly contact limit.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 18:41 Matt Hoppes 
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> Does anyone have a contact for Frontier Central PA OSP contact?
>
> There is a line that has been down for over 8 months that I have been
> unable to get them to hang.
>
> It is across a driveway and roadway.

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Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

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A few more Netflix cache boxes might be nice. We've got one only 1 hop
away and I think we're keeping it busy.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:11 AM Matt Hoppes
 wrote:
>
> Agreed... 720 or 1080 Netflix will work just as fine as 4K for the next
> month or two.
>
> On 3/19/20 12:05 PM, Mike Bolitho wrote:
> > I was getting blasted earlier for suggesting streaming services and
> > gaming DLCs could likely be slowed by government intervention. EU is
> > currently working with Netflix to do just that. It's currently a strong
> > suggestion and even a plead but I maintain that we're going to see this
> > pushed harder in the coming weeks.
> >
> > In a statement on Thursday, Breton said that given the unprecedented
> > situation, streaming platforms, telecom operators and users "all have a
> > joint responsibility to take steps to ensure the smooth functioning of
> > the internet during the battle against the virus propagation."
> >
> > https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/tech/netflix-internet-overload-eu/index.html
> >
> > - Mike Bolitho
> >
> >


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Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

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Is it so difficult to put an "override, but keep counting" button on a
device like this?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 8:04 AM Mark Tinka  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 17/Mar/20 20:06, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
>
> > I don’t get this… X-Ray machines (and other critical medical equipment) 
> > should operate in a fail-safe mode where a license screw up doesn’t prevent 
> > the machine from operating.
> >
> > If the hospital hasn’t paid up, find a way to go after the hospital, but 
> > don’t kill patients to collect your fee.
>
> For my very simple 1+1 mind, I totally agree.
>
> Perhaps, it's far easier to collect (overdue) fees with a gun to your
> head, if I don't actually need to point one at you.
>
>
>
> > Why should there be a license server at all? Why should an X-ray machine 
> > have an external dependency like that in the first place, even if it’s a 
> > local server?
>
> My Google OnHub wireless AP is completely unmanageable if I (against
> Google's advice) run it in Bridged mode. If I want to be able to reach
> it and manage it with an app or a web site, it needs to run as a router,
> even if all I want from it is to be an AP. You can guess who long mine
> have gone without a software update, then...
>
> Who knows why people come up with the BS they do?
>
> Mark.



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Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

[Jeff Shultz]

But it's so much fun to market that we don't have caps - and our cable
competitor does. Expensive ones, too.

Never stop your enemy when they are making a mistake.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 5:04 PM Clayton Zekelman  wrote:
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> No they didn't do the right thing.   The right
> thing would have been to eliminate the caps a decade ago.
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Re: China’s Slow Transnational Network

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On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:46 AM Pengxiong Zhu  wrote:

> Those are good insights. Our first guess is censorship too, and we
> discussed the possibilities of censorship side effects in Section 5.1
> *Censorship*.
>
> My guess is that it’s all the DDoS traffic coming from China saturating
>> the links.
>>
>
> In fact, Great Canon (GC) [55] is such an in-path system. But it is known
> for intercepting a subset of traffic (based on protocol type) only. What’s
> more, GC has been activated only twice in history (the last one in 2015
> [55]). However, it might be the case that the in-path capability is
> re-purposed to perform general traffic throttling. If that is the case,
> they have done a good job because the throttling resembles natural
> congestion from the loss rate and latency point of view. The asymmetric
> performance between downstream and upstream traffic can be explained by the
> natural imbalance of transnational traffic (where the upstream traffic from
> China to outside is not significant enough to throttle).
>
> Maybe... I dunno get rid of the Great Firewall of China?
>>
>
> What do you mean? Do you mean the slow traffic is to bypass the GFW or the
> slow traffic is caused by GFW?
>
>
You've pretty much determined there is nothing we can do on this side of
the Chinese mainland to improve throughput - the bottlenecks are all inside
China.

As you noted, ~35% of the bottlenecks were GFW related.  I wonder how many
retransmissions that results in, slowing everything down that much further?
Until the mainland Chinese Government allows the free passage of
information, there will be bottlenecks. And bottlenecks have a habit of
affecting traffic flows outside of their own area.

I doubt that any one thing is the source of the entire problem. But add
them all together

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Re: China’s Slow Transnational Network

[Jeff Shultz]

Maybe... I dunno get rid of the Great Firewall of China?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Firewall

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 7:59 AM Pengxiong Zhu  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We are a group of researchers at University of California, Riverside who
> have been working on measuring the transnational network performance (and
> have previously asked questions on the mailing list). Our work has now led
> to a publication in Sigmetrics 2020 and we are eager to share some
> interesting findings.
>
> We find China's transnational networks have extremely poor performance
> when accessing foreign sites, where the throughput is often persistently
> low (e.g., for the majority of the daytime). Compared to other countries
> we measured including both developed and developing, China's transnational
> network performance is among the worst (comparable and even worse than some
> African countries).
>
>
> --
>
> Best,
> Pengxiong Zhu
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Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

[Jeff Shultz]

Sure, some of them can get it. Some still have DSL because we haven't
gotten fiber that far out yet. Or they're in a rental/apartment where
the landlord won't let us put fiber.

Or some just don't want to pay for it.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:26 AM Andy Ringsmuth  wrote:
>
> >>> After all - it's not like *they* are going to feel the pain of a single 
> >>> 106G upload, it's somebody else who feels the pain of 5 million downloads 
> >>> of a 106G image
> >>> refresh.
> >>>
> >>> Economists call this sort of thing an "externality".
> >>
> >> I must admit, I'm blissfully unaware of CDN commercials, but I'd have 
> >> expected that if I give a CDN my binary 100G binary blob and six people 
> >> download it, I'd be billed a different amount to if six million people 
> >> download it - and similarly if that blob is 1G vs 100G.
> >>
> >> I guess I'm asking if there's an underlying problem with the model here, 
> >> or if it's just the details of the numbers that are "wrong" in encouraging 
> >> / discouraging certain behaviours.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tim.
> >
> > I just wish "they" would remember that their ultimate customers don’t 
> > usually have 10G pipes - they have 6M and 10M pipes that may take hours, if 
> > not days, to download one of these mega blobs.
>
> U, it is 2020, not 2010. 100M, 200M, 400M or 1G is increasingly common 
> for home broadband. I’ve got 400M at home, could get 1G fiber for less than 
> $100 if I wanted it, and I’m in your average, run-of-the-mill Midwest city.
>
>
> -Andy



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Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

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On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:47 AM t...@pelican.org  wrote:
>
> On Friday, 14 February, 2020 09:17, "Valdis Klētnieks" 
>  said:
>
> > After all - it's not like *they* are going to feel the pain of a single 106G
> > upload,
> > it's somebody else who feels the pain of 5 million downloads of a 106G image
> > refresh.
> >
> > Economists call this sort of thing an "externality".
>
> I must admit, I'm blissfully unaware of CDN commercials, but I'd have 
> expected that if I give a CDN my binary 100G binary blob and six people 
> download it, I'd be billed a different amount to if six million people 
> download it - and similarly if that blob is 1G vs 100G.
>
> I guess I'm asking if there's an underlying problem with the model here, or 
> if it's just the details of the numbers that are "wrong" in encouraging / 
> discouraging certain behaviours.
>
> Regards,
> Tim.

I just wish "they" would remember that their ultimate customers don't
usually have 10G pipes - they have 6M and 10M pipes that may take
hours, if not days, to download one of these mega blobs.

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Re: GPS Sync Outage

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Only if it was the Russian Air Force...

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:31 AM Andy Ringsmuth  wrote:
>
> “It’s a glitch in the Matrix.”
>
> Momentarily donning my tinfoil hat here, as I certainly don’t claim to know 
> the nitty gritty of how GPS timing works, but…
>
> What if, since the GPS system is operated by the US Air Force, there was 
> something slipped into the GPS system relating to timing or accuracy or 
> similar due to the events in the tinderbox of the Middle East?
>
> 
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Re: Wikipedia drops support for old Android smartphones; mandates TLSv1.2 to read

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Not having available for use, yes. But mandating it?

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 3:58 AM Yang Yu  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:17 AM Keith Medcalf  wrote:
> > I am curious -- what exactly are those "obvious reasons"?  (And for the 
> > record HTTP *IS* being used, it is just being tunneled inside a TLS 
> > connection).
>
> For a popular site, it would be doing a disservice to its customers by
> not using HTTPS, even for static content.
>
> https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/foci15/foci15-paper-marczak.pdf



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Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls

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On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 3:15 PM  wrote:
>
>
> They should be fining the telcos, they're making a lot of money on
> these calls.
>
> And if you believe otherwise (e.g., that it's like email spam) you've
> been duped by telco PR.
>
> Unlike spam when was the last time a telco failed to bill you for a
> billable phone call? Never.
>
> They know exactly who is using their system. And they get paid for
> it. And these junk callers are making millions of calls per hour when
> they're active.
>
> The entire telco infrastructure has been described as a billing system
> with some added voice features.
>
> Try devising a box which makes millions of voice calls per hour and
> see how long it takes before you're stopped dead until you agree to
> pay the telcos for those calls, or get arrested.
>
> --
> -Barry Shein
>
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> http://www.TheWorld.com
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> The World: Since 1989  | A Public Information Utility | *oo*

The sending telco may, but the receiving Teclco? Not necessarily - and
it's annoying to us too. A lot of this should seemingly be fixable at
the tandem.

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Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls

[Jeff Shultz]

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 1:46 PM Rich Kulawiec  wrote:
>
> [ Re-sent with proper headers.  My apologies for the typo'd previous version. 
> ]
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:34:48AM -0800, William Herrin wrote:
> > I don't want to start an arms race with the spam callers, I want to
> > end it. That means: jump directly to something they can't easily
> > defeat.
>
> It is at this point that I am reminded of the wisdom of former FTC
> Commissioner Orson Swindle, who was testifying before Congress on
> the subject of spam when he said "We need a couple of good hangings here."
> It was true in 2003 (which is I believe when he said it) and it's still
> true now.  Fines, whatever they are, will be evaded and bargained down,
> companies will be dissolved and reconstituted, money will be laundered,
> and the problem will persist.
>
> ---rsk
>

I've occasionally thought that a tactical air strike on a couple of
call centers might just convince the others of the errors of their
ways.

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Re: RIPE our of IPv4

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Hard to say that something that is in full implementation and use is dead.

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 9:21 AM Owen DeLong  wrote:
>
> RIPE isn’t dead… Just IPv4.
>
> Owen
>
>
> > On Nov 25, 2019, at 08:03 , Ryland Kremeier  
> > wrote:
> >
> > RIP RIPE
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth
> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:58 AM
> > To: NANOG mailing list 
> > Subject: Re: RIPE our of IPv4
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 25, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Dmitry Sherman  wrote:
> >>
> >> Just received a mail that RIPE is out of IPv4:
> >>
> >> Dear colleagues,
> >>
> >> Today, at 15:35 UTC+1 on 25 November 2019, we made our final /22 IPv4 
> >> allocation from the last remaining addresses in our available pool. We 
> >> have now run out of IPv4 addresses.
> >
> > Does this mean we are finally ripe for widespread IPv6 adoption?
> >
> > (Admit it, someone had to say it!)
> >
> > 
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> > 5609 Harding Drive
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Re: FCC Takes Steps to Enforce Quality Standards for Rural Broadband

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As someone working for one of those Rural Broadband providers, this
has been of more than passing interest. What will show up when the
testing commences will be interesting.
What has most people (from anecdotal observation) concerned is that we
are usually more than one or two carriers out from an IXP where the
speed test server will be, and don't have a lot of influence on paths
and carriers that we aren't directly connected with.

The basic premise makes sense - "We're paying you federal tax monies
to provide a certain level of service or better to these areas - you
ought to be able to demonstrate that you are providing service to that
level."

It's the mechanics that tend to get people tied up in knots.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 10:44 AM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>
>
> There is just so much I want to make sarcastic comments about, but I worry
> about offending future potential employers (all of them).
>
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-takes-steps-enforce-quality-standards-rural-broadband-0
>
> Description:
> FCC Takes Steps To Enforce Quality Standards For Rural Broadband Networks
> and Also Provides Additional Flexibility to Reduce Burden on Companies
>
>
> [...]
>
> In response to Petitions for Reconsideration and Applications for Review
> of an earlier bureau- level Performance Measure Order, the FCC today
> maintained the existing requirement that carriers conduct quarterly speed
> and latency tests between specified numbers of active subscribers’ homes
> and the Internet, and made targeted modifications to the testing
> procedures, including:
>
> - Modifying the schedule for commencing testing by basing it on the
> deployment obligations specific to each Connect America Fund support
> mechanism;
>
> - Implementing a new pre-testing period that will allow carriers to
> become familiar with testing procedures without facing a loss of support
> for failure to meet the requirements;
>
> - Allowing greater flexibility to carriers in identifying which customer
> locations should be tested and selecting the endpoints for testing
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Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

[Jeff Shultz]

We use 12 and 48 port VDSLAM's similar to that at some of our remote
locations, and we do generally line power those.

But before those came on the market we were putting out remote
cabinets that could support up to 144 subscribers fed off the same
sort of cards you would find in the CO.

I don't know our power budget per customer, but it's not unusual to
have 20 or more amps of capacity (probably overkill, likely because
that was the size available) at 48V in a cabinet. Because the CO cards
aren't hardened, the cabinet must be - and have some HVAC type
capabilities as well - at least fans.

We're now feeding line power out to some of the 12 and 48 port devices
like you linked to from some of those remote cabinets.

It's all about shrinking loop lengths until we can get both the time
and funds to put fiber in the ground everywhere.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:06 PM Michael Thomas  wrote:
>
> After some poking around, I found this gizmo. It says that it can use
> between 1-8 pairs to power it from the co. If there was already a home
> run to the co (which is almost certainly true in my case), it seems like
> that would be a cheaper option? Then you just have one diesel generator
> at the co that charges the batteries.
>
>
> https://portal.adtran.com/pub/Library/Data_Sheets/International_/I61179918F1-8_1148VXP.pdf
>
> Mike
>
> On 10/16/19 12:09 PM, Jeff Shultz wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 4:26 PM Michael Thomas  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/14/19 4:16 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Michael Thomas wrote:
> >>>> Of course this is a lot of conjecture on my part... be glad to be
> >>>> clued in by folks in know.
> >>> An old news story, but telco's usually have backup batteries in their
> >>> outside plant, cell towers, etc.  During power outages, they shuttle
> >>> small generators between outside cabinets to re-charge the batteries.
> >>> Remote Terminal Units (RTUs) use local power, i.e. look for the
> >>> utility meter nearby.  There is often a generator plug and battery
> >>> cabinet next to the RTU. They aren't powered from the central office.
> >> Interesting! And so primitive! So they go to all of the expense of
> >> laying fiber, but not power too?
> > Note: small local telco experience speaking below:
> >
> > Telco's tend to have experience with fiber, but probably not the
> > construction and transmission of the sort of power plant that would be
> > required to keep a bunch of  48V cabinets up and running reliably. We
> > certainly don't. Besides, an advantage of fiber is that hopefully the
> > copper thieves won't bother it.
> >
> >   By definition a remote terminal/cabinet is going to be... remote. Far
> > more simple to install commercial power, and then haul out a generator
> > if the battery string in the cabinet appears to be in danger of
> > dropping below about 46v.
> >
> > We do run some 360v DC at micro-amp levels out to equipment like ONT's
> > and remote 12 and 48 port remote VDSLAM's. But that's over existing
> > 24-26 ga. plant. Frequently using multiple pairs to avoid excessive
> > voltage drop over distances.
> >
> > Primitive is tested and works.
> >



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Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

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On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 4:26 PM Michael Thomas  wrote:
>
>
> On 10/14/19 4:16 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Michael Thomas wrote:
> >> Of course this is a lot of conjecture on my part... be glad to be
> >> clued in by folks in know.
> >
> > An old news story, but telco's usually have backup batteries in their
> > outside plant, cell towers, etc.  During power outages, they shuttle
> > small generators between outside cabinets to re-charge the batteries.
> > Remote Terminal Units (RTUs) use local power, i.e. look for the
> > utility meter nearby.  There is often a generator plug and battery
> > cabinet next to the RTU. They aren't powered from the central office.
>
> Interesting! And so primitive! So they go to all of the expense of
> laying fiber, but not power too?

Note: small local telco experience speaking below:

Telco's tend to have experience with fiber, but probably not the
construction and transmission of the sort of power plant that would be
required to keep a bunch of  48V cabinets up and running reliably. We
certainly don't. Besides, an advantage of fiber is that hopefully the
copper thieves won't bother it.

 By definition a remote terminal/cabinet is going to be... remote. Far
more simple to install commercial power, and then haul out a generator
if the battery string in the cabinet appears to be in danger of
dropping below about 46v.

We do run some 360v DC at micro-amp levels out to equipment like ONT's
and remote 12 and 48 port remote VDSLAM's. But that's over existing
24-26 ga. plant. Frequently using multiple pairs to avoid excessive
voltage drop over distances.

Primitive is tested and works.

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Re: VDSL

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Just like any broadband deployed by a Telco gets called "DSL" these
days - even if it's 1G fiber. And even by those in the industry who
should know better.

Annoying.

But I'm confused a bit by the below - G.Fast is a twisted pair
standard, last I saw - why would a cable (presumably coax) company be
offering it?  Are they just taking over the PTT's inside wiring?

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:26 AM Rod Beck
 wrote:
>
> Well, the cable company here is offering 500 megs to the entire 5 story 
> building. My guess is that this G fast standard is what is being deployed 
> here and they loosely call it 'VDSL'.
>
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Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure

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On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:31 AM Eric S. Raymond  wrote:
>
> Jeff Shultz :
> > It will be interesting to see, should this get off the ground to any
> > significant amount, if it turns into a bit of a popularity contest -
> > where a few get the lions share of the donations and the rest a
> > pittance.
>
> I'm aware of that possible failure mode.  It's why I designed in a
> three-way fanout.  The Loadsharer pledge strongly encourages its
> takers to to find and sponsore *three* LBIPs.
>
> > It might be a good idea to provide the list in a random (and
> > frequently re-randomized) fashion to avoid the same names always being
> > at the top of it. I see that Matt Harris had the same thought.
>
> There is no one list, by design.  That would be a single point of failure.
>
> Each adviser keeps his or her own list.  Loadsharers choose which
> advisers to pay attention to.
>
> Didn't anyone actually read the webpage?

I did, but I definitely missed the part about advisors maintaining
their own lists. I believed they were all going to be contributing to
a master LBIPs list. -  "and can choose which Advisers to follow (or
to follow none!)" did not make that explicitly clear.

My mistake was thatI didn't go to the Advisors' pages. I thought
they'd just be bios or somesuch, but the first lists are there as
well.

As is, one thing that grates a bit personally is that the two advisor
pages do not share a common structure - If I'm doing a comparison,
even unconsciously, I'm going to want to be looking at like objects.
Instead, I have your page, which matches the rest of the formatting of
the Loadsharer's website, and then I go to Dave Täht's page which is a
Patreon blog post, with a very different appearance.

I suggest that you provide Advisors with Loadsharer pages like your
own, to increase the commonality between list appearances.

My background is military - some uniformity counts in my worldview.
Maybe the lack of it will assist in splitting the loadsharers between
Advisors, which could be considered a feature.

FWIW.

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Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure

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On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 9:34 AM Tom Beecher  wrote:
>>
>> Encouraging folks to contribute to specific individuals directly may be a 
>> little more difficult though, compared to, say, getting a legitimate 
>> organization going that provides (likely objectively-determined merit-based) 
>> payouts to the sort of folks you're talking about.
>
>
> Adding an organization in front of that whose sole reason for existence is to 
> decide who gets what % of the money doesn't make a lot of sense, mostly 
> because it is just creating another layer of people who are then going to 
> feel entitled to be compensated for taking the time to decide who should be 
> compensated.
>

It will be interesting to see, should this get off the ground to any
significant amount, if it turns into a bit of a popularity contest -
where a few get the lions share of the donations and the rest a
pittance.

It might be a good idea to provide the list in a random (and
frequently re-randomized) fashion to avoid the same names always being
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Re: residential/smb internet access in 2019 - help?

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:43 PM david raistrick  wrote:
>
> folks,
>
> I've been away from nanog for a long time - and away from the ISP world for 
> longer.
>
> Looking at a house in a new area, at copper splice box out front, bellsouth 
> fiber markers as well (yes, that's usually just passing by. but it's there).  
> Owners since '82 said the telephone company was AT - but the New AT 
> apparently no longer offers phone or internet service there.
>

It seems like _someone_ has to be the CLEC and "Carrier of Last
Resort" for the area. Not that that means you are going to get the
service you want.

Check with the Florida Public Services Commission for what you should
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Re: FB?

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The date on that is 2010.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:07 PM Selphie Keller  wrote:
>
> I did see this article indicating they had somehow invalidated their cache in 
> a botched deployment of changes - 
> https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/more-details-on-todays-outage/431441338919/
>
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 06:18, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>> So what happened at Facebook today? I saw one article quoting Roland saying 
>> it was a route leak, but I haven't seen any other sources that aren't just 
>> quoting Roland. Usually there are a few independent posts out there by now.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> Midwest-IX
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Re: IP Dslams

[Jeff Shultz]

You might start hunting on the used market for Occam/Calix B6 equipment,
specifically the B6-252 ADSL2+ and POTS card and the 12 slot chassis.

You'll have to put in some supporting infrastructure, but they do work
well, and I know of at least two aftermarket repair places that will repair
them for a reasonable (for the telecom world) cost.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 06:38 Nick Edwards  They don't have a large budget and although I'm yet to get prices on
> adtran's (understandable, holidays 'n all) I doubt it will fit within their
> budget, it's looking more like getting a few planet dslams and configuring
> a linux box as the bng, been 10 years since I've had to do that kind of
> setup, memories hazy, but I know it worked, and well, so thanks to all for
> suggestions but the adtrans and nokias are not for those on shoe string
> budgets, which wouldnt even allow me to include an asr1k for the bng, and
> although it would allow for, I'd rather not grab an ebay 7200/7300 :)
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:52 PM Brandon Martin 
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/19 6:47 AM, Nick Edwards wrote:
>> > There are 260 villas, and no coax.
>>
>> Is there a logical way to distribute the termination?  You might be able
>> to get better performance (not that you perhaps care, in this case) at
>> minimal additional cost if you can do building-local termination of each
>> customer circuit and then backhaul on e.g. bonded VDSL2 or G.FAST over
>> shorter distances (perhaps hopping building to building).
>>
>> I'm assuming there's no data grade copper or fiber if there's no coax.
>> Obviously if you've got those, distributed termination makes even more
>> sense.
>>
>> If you do want a centralized solution, an Adtran TA5006 (the small
>> chassis) with 6x 48 port VDSL2 combo modules (with or without vectoring,
>> depending on your needs) would do the job (though it fills the chassis
>> and doesn't allow for expansion, so the full-size TA5000 may be
>> desirable).  I've played (and am playing with) the same system but with
>> GPON termination and have been happy with it so far.
>> --
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>>
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Re: 192.208.19.0/24 hijack transiting 209, 286, 3320, 5511, 6461, 6762, 6830, 8220, 9002, 12956

[Jeff Shultz]

China Telecom originating a network that belongs to the agency that
controls all things nuclear in the US... nothing suspicious there.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:03 PM Dominik Bay  wrote:
>
>  I see the follwowing ASN transiting a leak concerning 192.208.19.0/24 
> originated by 4812
>
> 209
> 286
> 3320
> 5400
> 5511
> 6327
> 6461
> 6762
> 6830
> 8218
> 8220
> 8447
> 8551
> 9002
> 12956
>
> The proper source is 32982 (Department of Energy).
> More details to be found here: https://bgpstream.com/event/171779
> And here: http://lg.ring.nlnog.net/prefix_detail/lg01/ipv4?q=192.208.19.0
>
> Cheers,
> Dominik
>
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Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

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If someone wants that sort of thing... does anyone still make AM
transistor radios?

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:25 AM Rich Kulawiec  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 09:51:04AM -0700, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote:
> > Capitalist solution: Build yet another IoT device that just does emergency
> > alerting.
>
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> proportions and this will provide yet another vector for attacks.
>
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Re: Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet

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It might be worth noting that with Plate Tectonics, the shoreline
itself is not exactly locked in place either. Particularly on the West
Coast in ring of fire territory. Come the predicted Cascadia Fault
earthquake, the landing stations are going to first be shaken by the
EQ, then swamped by a major tsunami, and after everything settles
down, potentially find the ocean lapping at their doorsteps, not
because the water level has risen, but because the land level has
dropped perhaps 1 meter as the North American Plate "unlocked" and
extended over the Juan de Fuca plate during the EQ. Bandon, Nedonna
Beach, Pacific City, Rockaway Beach and Warrenton, Oregon take note...
Not saying the oceans aren't rising - but there are other factors that
may be potentially in play as well.

FWIW.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 1:44 PM Naslund, Steve  wrote:
>
> Here is a simple question to answer while you are at it.  Once the arctic ice 
> and glaciers melt, what will cause the ocean levels to continue to rise at 
> this incredible rate?  The total estimate for sea level rise would be 70 
> meters if absolutely all ice on the face of the Earth melted.  A radical 
> change no doubt but it will not continue forever.
>
> The Earth right now is about as warm as it was during the previous 
> interglacial period which was about 125,000 years ago.  At that time sea 
> level was actually 4 METERS HIGHER THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW.  So we know that 
> before humans were widespread on Earth, sea level was 4 METERS higher than it 
> is right now.  I guess this goes against the "worse than it has ever been" 
> kind of arguments".
>
> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
>
>
>
> >Pretty hard to accept 198 inches since NASA's own data shows no more than 
> >250mm or 9.4 inches since 1888.  You would have to assume there are no 
> >balancing factors.  If the earth gets warmer then there >is also more 
> >evaporation of the oceans which causes more rainfall which helps moderate 
> >temperature and moves oceanic water inland.  I agree the climate is getting 
> >warmer but doubt that trend continues >forever.  History says it won't.  
> >Common sense says that in any closed system, things do not change 
> >exponentially forever.  I really do need an answer to the question of why in 
> >certain years ocean >levels were actually lower than the year before like 
> >2010.  I honestly want to know why that happens.
> >
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Re: Puerto Rico: Lack of electricity threatens telephone and internet services

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It does make you wonder about the electrical infrastructure of the island,
and how much work is being done to repair it. With the Texas and Florida
hurricanes you saw fleets of electrical service vehicles (boom trucks and
the like) from other power companies with joint agreements waiting to
deploy into the disaster area as soon as it was safe to do so.

With PR well, it's not like you can drive to the island, much less
(apparently) around on it. Getting those vehicles and people in, assuming
joint agreements with off island power companies existed in the first
place, would be a case of scheduling and determining priorities.

And for those crying that the US Federal Gov't ought to do it - where do
you think they're going to find the people? It's not like they have armies
of infrastructure level electricians just sitting around playing cards
until needed for an emergency - these are the sort of people who, by and
large, are already working at jobs - where they are needed as well.

When it comes to infrastructure it seems like PR has been knocked back to
the "tools to make tools" stage - they need to build the infrastructure to
rebuild their infrastructure, which was apparently in no great shape to
begin with.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei <
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 2017-10-19 03:00, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
> > not intended for long-term, continuous use.  The generators will need
> > maintenance and likely experience unscheduled failures the longer they're
> > used.
>
> Permanent duty diesel generators exist.  Many northern communities in
> Canada run on them as their 7/24 power source.
>
> It *shouldn't* have taken long after Maria for locals to know how much
> damage there had been to electrical grid and that if it's gonna take
> months to fix, you're gonna need constant duty generators.
>
> What isn't clear to me is whether everything still depends on FEMA/army
> help, or whether business is able to function autonomously and get their
> own generators without the army confiscating them to be delieved to a
> hospital instead.
>
> And if you're a telco who is deprived of revenues because almost all
> your customers are without power, do you spend your own money and effort
> to try to get a permanent duty diesel generator to maintain your central
> office, or do you wait for government to install one for you ?
>
> It is one thing to be benevolent and wanting to have your network
> backbone up, but financial realities of the cost of running a business
> without revenues will eventually hit you when the disaster lasts for
> months instead of days.
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Re: cisco.com unavailable

[Jeff Shultz]

I had no difficulty getting to it,  but it appears that I probably got
to an Akamai box:

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:e144.dscb.akamaiedge.net
Addresses:  2600:1409:a:185::90
  2600:1409:a:18b::90
  23.200.208.170
Aliases:  www.cisco.com
  www.cisco.com.akadns.net
  wwwds.cisco.com.edgekey.net
  wwwds.cisco.com.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:cisco.com
Addresses:  2001:420:1101:1::a
  72.163.4.161

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Murat Kaipov  wrote:
> Hi folks!
> Is cisco.com  unavailable or it is affected just for 
> Rostelecom?

Re: internet visualization

[Jeff Shultz]

Weirdest thing I've found yet - AS7224, Amazon AS - Amazon, has 1
indegree - AS724 - DNIC-ASBLK-00721-00726 - DoD Network Information
Center, US.

What the heck is an Amazon (assuming it's associated with Amazon.com)
AS doing hanging off the end of a DOD network?

Assuming I'm reading it correctly, that is.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jared Mauch  wrote:
>
> OT: hit delete, or shameless plug disclaimer
>
> one of my colleagues just posted this visualiation
> of the internet from the as_path view of 2914.  if you are on
> a mobile, you have to physically move your device around.
>
> http://as2914.net/
>
> If you love it, send Job your accolades.  If you hate it,
> see above disclaimer.  If in a country with a holiday on monday,
> enjoy it safely.
>
> - Jared
>
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Re: Cisco/Level3 takedown

[Jeff Shultz]

I think that, properly, Batman wears a cowl, not a hat.

On 4/9/2015 11:29 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:

Wrong. Batman, for example, wears a black hat.

-mel via cell

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

[Jeff Shultz]

Or you can just call Comcast and ask them to turn it off. Or you could 
in the past.


My in-laws did that when they got their new equipment. I don't know 
exactly how they found out it was going to be done - possibly inside 
info due to a relative working for Comcast.


On 12/11/2014 8:05 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:30:00 -0800, Bob Evans said:


However, I have not studied these new Docsis modems. So how do I shut the
xfinitywifi SSID?


Motorola Surfboard, Netgear WNDR3800, reflash the 3800 with cerowrt. Done.

And you get less bufferbloat in the bargain.

(Though the 3800 runs into CPU limits around 60mbits/sec - doesn't bother
me, as my 20/5 plan is plenty for me except when my cats decide to start
binging on funny people videos.  But if you've got leads on gear that will
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Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

[Jeff Shultz]

On 12/11/2014 2:46 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote:

On 12/11/14, 5:19 PM, Ricky Beam jfb...@gmail.com wrote:



On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:41:24 -0500, Livingood, Jason
jason_living...@cable.comcast.com wrote:

...But 2.4GHz was a bit of a mess before we came along with this
service.


So, knowing the house is on fire, you bring a can of gas to put it out.
You aren't f'ing helping.


I think that¹s a bit overblown but respect your opinion. But as you know a
massive amount of consumer electronics and whatnot if WiFi-enabled. By
this logic they are all dumping gas on the fire as well.

Jason



I think it's pretty obvious that 2.4Ghz is becoming the new 900Mhz - a 
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Re: Cisco CCNA Training

[Jeff Shultz]

Let me second those thanks

On 11/9/2014 4:38 PM, scottie mac wrote:

Holy molly, thankyou!! I just enrolled.


On 08/11/14 23:00, nanog-requ...@nanog.org wrote:

From: Wakefield, Thad M. twakefi...@stcloudstate.edu To:
nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cisco CCNA Training
Message-ID:
b3093724fb4d2747ae895c89420a1edc0133ad7...@scsu83a.campus.stcloudstate.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Until midnight Monday this
course is on sale for $24:
https://www.udemy.com/collection/thankyou-400-24deal

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of scottie mac
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 6:02 PM
To:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Cisco CCNA Training

This course has 25 hours of video, I haven't started it yet but I've
watched
many of Laz's videos on Youtube, and he explains stuff very well.
It is $399 though.
They could share the Udemy account, and watch them in their free time.
*I'm not affiliated with Udemy*

https://www.udemy.com/the-complete-ccna-200-120-course




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Other things in the Baltimore area

[Jeff Shultz]

Two other places that might be worth a visit:

(taking care to leave torches and pitchforks behind)
The National Cryptologic Museum is located next to the National Security 
Agency HQ. It's really not that far away.

https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/museum/

The BO Train Museum is a must-see stop for anyone interested in 
railroads - http://www.borail.org/Collections.aspx


I remember spending a fun afternoon several years ago (okay, so it's 
been over 15 years now...) just riding the water taxi around the harbor, 
getting off and wandering around Fells Point as well.


--
Jeff Shultz

Re: Ciena 6200 clue?

[Jeff Shultz]

On 7/3/2013 12:57 PM, Brandon Ross wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Jason Lixfeld wrote:


The SE who's onsite is apparently claiming that there is no provision
to set a default gateway on the management interface.


Everyone knows that attacks against your management interface come from
devices not on your management network.  By removing the default gateway
feature, Ciena is improving the security of your network.



While my device is not a Ciena, it has the same issue - and I don't 
think I'm going to be getting attacks against my management interface on 
a 10.0.x.x network.


I want the option to decide for myself.

I'm not all that interested in setting up a management VLAN so this one 
device in my central office will be happy on it's virtually flat network.


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Re: Ciena 6200 clue?

[Jeff Shultz]

On 7/3/2013 1:00 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:

On 2013-07-03 3:57 PM, Brandon Ross br...@pobox.com wrote:


Everyone knows that attacks against your management interface come
from devices not on your management network.  By removing the
default gateway feature, Ciena is improving the security of your
network.

It's time we created a BCOP specifying that default gateway
functionality be disabled or removed in all network deployments, in
the interest of security.  Security improvements realized in the
last few years by dropping all ICMP and TCP DNS at firewall
boundaries, not to mention universal deployment of NAT, were just
the first few steps to creating a much more secure Internet.

Once disablement of default gateway functionality has been become
a common practice, the natural reduction in traffic on the Internet
should allow most operators to achieve enormous cost savings by
powering off all of their equipment.


Awesome - sorry, can't resistŠ. :)



Ah, somehow my eyeballs glazed over the excellent sarcasm that was made
evident in the last paragraph

Either way, my point remains: I want the option. I suspect I'm not alone...

--
Jeff Shultz

Re: Ciena 6200 clue?

[Jeff Shultz]

On 7/2/2013 4:30 PM, Jason Lixfeld wrote:



The SE who's onsite is apparently claiming that there is no provision
to set a default gateway on the management interface.  This seems odd
to me.


Me too, which is why I've got a call in to another company regarding 
their management LAN port that I can't configure with a default gateway 
either. At least not using the CLI.


Is this common and I just noticed it because it happened to me, or is 
this some collective engineering brain cramp that just took hold?


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Jeff Shultz

Re: This is a coordinated hacking. (Was Re: Need help in flushing DNS)

[Jeff Shultz]

On 6/20/2013 1:46 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:

On 6/20/13, jamie rishaw j...@arpa.com wrote:

It's not poisoning.  They somehow were able to modify the NS records; one
would presume, at the registrar/s.


https://www.networksolutions.com/blog/2013/06/important-update-for-network-solutions-customers-experiencing-website-issues/

--
-JH



small number of Network Solutions customers

They must be staffed with physicists, astronomers, or economists I 
don't know anyone else that would consider nearly fifty thousand (from 
a previous post by Phil Fagan) to be a small number.


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75th Broad up/down?

[Jeff Shultz]

An online magazine I work with is, we believe, hosted at 75 Broad or 111 
8th. It dropped out Monday night, right after they announced that the 
diesel pumps had fried due to flooding at 75 Broad, came back up early 
Tuesday morning, and then died again this morning.


IP address is in 74.63.44.0/24 block (which may be part of a larger block).

Pinging 74.63.44.255 gets me replies from 208.122.44.210 only.

Anyone know the current status of these facilities? I've got an e-mail 
in to noc@internap but haven't heard back - and if they have a facility 
down they're probably too busy to reply to a single web hosting customer.


I have seen the report from earlier this morning indicating that 111 8th 
had an issue that's been fixed - but the Internap NOC line 
(877.843.4662) still indicates that NYM008 is having a power outage.


Thanks!

--
Jeff Shultz

Re: U.S. spy agencies ... email for cybersecurity

[Jeff Shultz]

One thing that GEN Alexander  has is a clue. He was my Battalion Commander in 
Germany in the early 90s and he is one of those guys you don't give a second 
thought to following. Very competent.

Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

[Jeff Shultz]

On 5/23/2012 6:27 PM, George Herbert wrote:

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:42 PM,valdis.kletni...@vt.edu  wrote:




One could make the case that the releases before Paul got there weren't
exactly popular - how many DNS servers were in production in 1986? ;)


Please don't make me remember hosts.txt before I've had a chance to
wrap up work, go home, and get some Scotch in...




When I was in the US Army in Augsburg, GE, I was a dial-up customer of 
our local Army internet node. I'm not sure what the Micro was (Sperry? 
Unisys?) but it took up a good portion of a small room. hosts.txt was 
what it used - if I wanted to e-mail someone, I had to get the IP 
address of their e-mail server and have the sysadmin add it to the file.


I, through my aunt, had the hardest time getting the IP address of the 
Oregon State University e-mail server out of them because they couldn't 
believe that there was someone out there who wasn't running DNS yet. I 
just wanted to be able to send e-mail to my aunt, who was one of my few 
family members who had e-mail at the time.


This was 94-95. The system was due to be replaced at some point by a 486 
PC... that would do DNS. Base closed in 1998... I wonder if they ever 
got their new system?


Oy... I just remembered trying (and occasionally succeeding) to find 
Anonymous FTP sites via the nearly random typing of IP addresses on that 
system.


Okay, time to go hug my DNS server.

--
Jeff Shultz

Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene

[Jeff Shultz]

On 8/26/2011 9:07 PM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote:

 DISCUSS!

 Personally, I was very happy to hear that Equinix had laid in stores
 of MREs, and so, with luck, nobody we know there will have to resort
 to cannibalism or being cannibalized. (Although they may wish they
 had, depending on the age and type of MRE.)

 --msa






MRE's? In an enclosed space? For an extended period?
Time to implement the new Marine Rule of Engagement - no audible farting.
Hopefully they've gotten rid of the bean component ones.

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Re: 365x24x7 (sleep patterns)

[Jeff Shultz]

On 4/15/2011 10:11 AM, mikea wrote:


My experience:

6 on, 2 off, 8 hours, rotating to the next later shift: I never, ever got
enough sleep -- for 2 years.

6 on, 2 off, 12 hours, straight mids, no rotation: much less bad.

5 on, 2 off, 8 hours, straight mids: quite tolerable.

5 on, 2 off, 8 hours, straight swings (1600-): out of phase with the
world.



I've done all of the above but the 12 hour shift and can add 5 on, 2 
off, 8 hours, rotating between swings and mids.  They sucked. I'm in 
general agreement with Mike's judgments as well.


If you want to be fair to your people and help keep their morale up, 
straight shifts is the way to go - or at least fix the mids shift and 
make the swing/mids switch at 2200 (10pm). Changing sleep times is the 
quickest way to get zombies for employees.


If you try to do a 6 and 2 style rotation, eventually some smart person 
is going to figure out that they're getting screwed out of a lot of 
weekend and holiday time as opposed to the daybeggers.


My recommendation, based on 10 years of this nonsense in the Army, is 
minimum 2 people per shift, 5 on, 2 off, stagger the weekends so that 
someone gets Fri-Sat, the other Sun-Mon. If they can decide which wants 
which weekend between themselves, so much the better.


As the FAA has lately demonstrated, single person night shifts is 
generally a bad thing if you actually want them to stay awake.


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Re: DHS and NSA getting married?

[Jeff Shultz]

On 10/21/2010 10:46 PM, George Bonser wrote:


Among other things, a senior DHS cyber official and other DHS employees
will move to the NSA to be closer to the heart of the military's cyber
defense capability. Closer collaboration provides an opportunity to
look at new ways that we can do national cyber incident response, he
said.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4939254c=AMEs=TOP


Okay, so the Feds have set up a way to not duplicate effort (and waste 
money at the same) between agencies.


Don't really see the downside here.

Full disclosure: Assigned to Army TCAE at Ft. Meade in the NSA compound 
for a couple years in the late 90s - assigned for awhile with the unit 
that is probably now associated with this.


--
Jeff Shultz

Re: Tsunami

[Jeff Shultz]

On 2/27/2010 3:36 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:

---
It wasn't anything.  Stood on the cliff above Pipeline (famous surf spot) and 
couldn't tell if the water washing up the beach was normal winter surf or a 
tsunami.  Other parts of the island may have seen more, though.  Resonance is 
everything with these types of waves.

Many cables land at Kahe on the west side of Oahu and Kawaihae on the Big 
Island, the opposite side of the islands from the direction of the wave.  No 
calls from the NOC, so no trouble AFAIK...  ;-)

scott

   


Last time I checked, Pipeline was on the north side of the island, was 
it not? Activity coming from Chile would be on the east and southern sides.


Nonetheless, based on television coverage it basically sloshed in and 
out a lot without any real damage being done. Didn't even look like it 
really got past the beaches from what I could see.


--
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Re: microsoft please contact me off list

[Jeff Shultz]

In our case we didn't bother with where it was coming from - our router 
guy figured out where it was going to - and had that IP shut down a 
couple levels away from us.


Thomas P. Galla wrote:

Sorry I am getting dos attacked from below and it would be nice if microsoft 
working abuse ph# or noc# or a name ?



Thomas P Galla
t...@bluegrass.net
BluegrassNet
Voice (502) 589.INET [4638]
Fax 502-315-0581
321 East Breckinridge St
Louisville KY 40203


-Original Message-
From: Thomas P. Galla [mailto:t...@bluegrass.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:24 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: microsoft please contact me off list

Can a person in charge contact me off list




mail:~ $ whois -h whois.arin.net 131.107.65.41

OrgName:Microsoft Corp
OrgID:  MSFT
Address:One Microsoft Way
City:   Redmond
StateProv:  WA
PostalCode: 98052
Country:US

NetRange:   131.107.0.0 - 131.107.255.255
CIDR:   131.107.0.0/16
NetName:MICROSOFT
NetHandle:  NET-131-107-0-0-1
Parent: NET-131-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS1.MSFT.NET
NameServer: NS5.MSFT.NET
NameServer: NS2.MSFT.NET
NameServer: NS3.MSFT.NET
NameServer: NS4.MSFT.NET
Comment:
RegDate:1988-11-11
Updated:2004-12-09

RTechHandle: ZM39-ARIN
RTechName:   Microsoft
RTechPhone:  +1-425-882-8080
RTechEmail:  n...@microsoft.com

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE231-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Abuse
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgAbuseEmail:  ab...@msn.com

OrgAbuseHandle: HOTMA-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Hotmail Abuse
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgAbuseEmail:  ab...@hotmail.com

OrgAbuseHandle: MSNAB-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   MSN ABUSE
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgAbuseEmail:  ab...@msn.com

OrgNOCHandle: ZM23-ARIN
OrgNOCName:   Microsoft Corporation
OrgNOCPhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgNOCEmail:  n...@microsoft.com

OrgTechHandle: MSFTP-ARIN
OrgTechName:   MSFT-POC
OrgTechPhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgTechEmail:  ipr...@microsoft.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2009-03-11 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
mail:~ $ whois -h whois.arin.net 131.107.65.41





Thomas P Galla
t...@bluegrass.net
BluegrassNet
Voice (502) 589.INET [4638]
Fax 502-315-0581
321 East Breckinridge St
Louisville KY 40203




No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1979 - Release Date: 03/11/09 
20:42:00




--
Jeff Shultz

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

[Jeff Shultz]

Micheal Patterson wrote:
This may be old news, but I've not been in the list for quite some time. 
At any rate, is anyone else having issues with Yahoo blocking / 
deferring legitimate emails?


My situation is that I host our corporate mx'ers on my network, one of 
the companies that we recently purchased has Yahoo hosting their domains 
mail. Mail traffic to them is getting temporarily deferred with the 421 
4.7.0 [TS01] Messages from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx temporarily deferred due to 
user complaints - 4.16.55.1;

see http://postmaster.yahoo.com/421-ts01.html;

The admin of the facility has contacted Yahoo about this but their 
response was for more information when they were told that traffic 
from my mx to their domain was to being deferred.  I may end up just 
having them migrate to my systems just to maintain company 
communications if we can't clear this up in a timely manner.


--
Micheal Patterson


Yep, it's been happening to us - various explanations - and I've got at 
least one annoyed customer because of it.


--
Jeff Shultz

Re: [outages] Yahoo! mail having problems?

[Jeff Shultz]

Apparently they are - 219 of the 304 in the queue are for Yahoo - some 
over 1280 minutes.


Or, as my boss put it when I mentioned that Yahoo was having e-mail 
issues: What's new?



Chris Lauretano wrote:

Yep, experiencing the same here. The only e-mails stuck in the queue are 
outbound to Yahoo and the number is staggering.

--C. Lauretano


On 12/23/08 3:34 PM, iName.com frnk...@iname.com wrote:

Our e-mail gateways are backing up with yahoo.com bound e-mail.  I'm only
getting timeouts connecting to Yahoo's e-mail servers.  I've tried these:
a.mx.mail.yahoo.com[67.195.168.31]
c.mx.mail.yahoo.com[216.39.53.3]
d.mx.mail.yahoo.com[66.196.82.7]
f.mx.mail.yahoo.com[68.142.202.247]
from the same subnet as the e-mail gateways.

Anyone else having the same?

Frank

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Re: McColo and SPAM

[Jeff Shultz]

Revolver Onslaught wrote:

Hello,

Since McColo closed, we noticed the spam was far more intensive than before.

However, it seems the amount of spam is similar than than before.

Do you feel the same ?

Many thanks,
RO



I've been getting an fair number of e-mails (up from zero) from 
customers asking about spam they are getting with their e-mail address 
being in the From: address. I know that this has always been happening, 
I'm just wondering if it's been buried under the McColo stuff so they 
are just noticing it.


--
Jeff Shultz

Re: an over-the-top data center

[Jeff Shultz]

Marshall Eubanks wrote:



On Dec 2, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Brian Raaen wrote:

Maybe it isn't dry ice Maybe it is from liquid oxygen, in which 
case it

better be a smoke free workplace.



This is of course off-off-topic, but I would suspect the room 
temperature ultrasonic

misters, not dry ice or wood smoke.



I'd be more worried about the artificial waterfalls... the sound of 
flowing water has an established physiological effect.


Um... where's the bathroom?

--
Jeff Shultz

Re: Public Assertions

[Jeff Shultz]

Can anyone explain why we are being exposed to this? From either side?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:56:43AM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote:

  On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 	If I may...  I am in possesion of your certified letter 
 	-AND- the signed acknowledgement that you received notice

that I have taken posession of said certified mail.
 
 	please get your facts straight, esp. when making formal 
 	replies to government inqueries.  it can only strengthen

your case if you tell the truth.

Equally but differently untruthful in my case.  Myself, I don't sit around 
my house all day, breathlessly anticipating a new missive from Dean.


-Bill


then what, pray tell, do you do to while away the hours?
knit? route IP datagrams? carve elaborate totems from ancient redwoods?
myself, I have taken up Portugese... such an expressive language.

	my instruction in the email above was derived from reading the submitted 
	comments to the DoC/NOI on securing the DNS.  telling us lies is one thing,
	factual mis-statements to the goverment is something else and i 
	fail to see how doing so helps ones cause.


in the event that anyone has doubts, I will be glad to scan and post
the evidence.  Dean, care to amend your statements?


--bill




--
Jeff Shultz

Re: [funsec] McColo: Major Source of Online Scams and Spams KnockedOffline (fwd)

[Jeff Shultz]

Jason Ross wrote:

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 14:16, Nick Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How many cops does it take to throw a community lynching?



None.
The question that remains is: Why is the community having to resort to lynching?

Following the metaphor and using the US Old West as an example,
lynchings were largely due to one of the following:

   * a lack of organized law enforcement
   * a lack of effective law enforcement


The problem is that to fix either of those problems you'd have to wade 
through a fever swamp of facists online! claims from all the 
pseudo-anarchists who start twitching at the thought of any agency 
imposing it's will on the internet.


--
Jeff Shultz

Re: Telstra NOC

[Jeff Shultz]

Why am I having an Aerosmith flashback right now?

Raymond Corbin wrote:

That's a dude

-r

-Original Message-
From: Steve Church [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:29 PM

To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Telstra NOC

Who's the hot chick in the bottom right corner?

S

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Charles Wyble
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:




http://www.telstra.com.au/abouttelstra/images/media/photos/73764g2_hires
.jpg








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Jeff Shultz

Re: Fwd: cnn.com - Homeland Security seeks cybercounterattack system(Einstein 3.0)

[Jeff Shultz]

Scott Weeks wrote:



This: 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/USS_Yorktown.jpg 

was rendered unusable by a sh!++y OS?  !!!  


wipes tears from eyes after rolling around on the floor in convulsive laughter


Um, no, that one was rendered unusable by Japanese bombs and torpedoes 
at Midway in 1942.


This:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Yorktown_(CG-48)

was what was taken down by Windows NT.

--
Jeff Shultz

Re: Google's PUE

[Jeff Shultz]

Alex Rubenstein wrote:

I only quickly read this, but have the following question, should google
like to answer it...

Of the six datacenters, where are they all physically located?



Based on their job openings at least three are located in Mountain View, 
CA; The Dalles, OR; and Atlanta, GA.


--
Jeff Shultz

Re: [Nanog] ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010

[Jeff Shultz]

Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Scott Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.news.com/2100-1034_3-6237715.html

  I find claims that soon everything will be HD somewhat dubious
  (working for a company that produces video for online distribution) -
 
 I think that is based off the all American TV going to HDD that is
 supposed to happen in 2009. ( I think I read that currently only 40%
 of Americans have HDD TV's and the 60% were not going to buy one until
 it became too late. )

I'm part of the 60%... since I'm on satellite I believe I don't need to 
switch... in fact it would cost me more to get service in HD now if I 
did switch.

I suspect there are a lot of me's out there.

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Re: Speedtest site accuracy [was: Bandwidth issues in the Sprint network]

[Jeff Shultz]

Daniel Senie wrote:

If you go to Speakeasy.net and run their test, the vendor of theirs has 
a logo showing (and clickable). This outfit produces nice-looking speed 
test software.


That said, it just reported my Comcast Business account as getting 
25Mbps down, and 1.4Mbps up, which is pretty unlikely. Clearing the 
browser cache alters the displayed speed considerably, so this is a good 
indication of the usefulness (or lack thereof) of some of this software.


Speakeasy must be good - you're the second person in 5 minutes to 
recommend them.


What I'm looking for is software that we can install locally on our 
backbone so we can offer our customers an accurate and up-to-date 
performance measure of their own DSL circuit - which is anywhere from 
256/256kb to 1024/6.144Mbs at the moment.


We're going fiber-to-the-house over the next 5 years so I expect those 
numbers will continue to rise to the point that problems outside of our 
network will definitely be more of a bottleneck than problems inside our 
network - so I'm looking for a solution that will help us illustrate 
that point to our customers.


--
Jeff Shultz

Re: Dubai impound ships suspected in cable damage

[Jeff Shultz]

Deepak Jain wrote:


There is no reason to assume these are civilian satellites. Any one of a 
number of affected or interested countries could have provided the 
imagery (or ship information) to Reliance. Its not saying *who* analyzed 
the images. ;)


Then again, how are ship's captains supposed to know *where* they are 
allowed to drop anchor? Is there a Call before you drop anchor service 
similar to call before you dig?


Deepak


Anchorages are normally VERY clearly marked on maritime navigation charts.

--
Jeff Shultz

Re: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

[Jeff Shultz]

Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:


On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Rod Beck wrote:


http://www.ecommercetimes.com/rsstory/61251.html


So, anyone but me think that this will end in disaster? I think the 
model where you get high speed for X amount of bytes and then you're 
limited to let's say 64kilobit/s until you actually go to the web page 
and buy another token for more Y more bytes at high speed? We already 
have this problem with metered mobile phones, which of course is even 
more complicated for users due to different rates depending on where you 
might be roaming.


Customers want control, that's why the prepaid mobile phone where you 
get an account you have to prepay into, are so popular in some 
markets. It also enables people who perhaps otherwise would not be 
eligable because of bad credit, to get these kind of services.


I'm also looking forward to the pricing, all the per-byte plans I have 
seen so far makes the ISP look extremely greedy by overpricing, as 
opposed to we want to charge fairly for use that is what they say in 
their press statements.





I think that all those people who think their kids spend a fortune on 
their Cell Phones are in for a very rude awakening... when their plan 
runs out of bandwidth on the 6th of the month.


Flat rate text messaging was created for a reason... this is fighting 
that reason.


--
Jeff Shultz

Re: [Outages] FW: Outages in Portland area

[Jeff Shultz]

Dennis Smock wrote:
Has anybody noticed any outages that would effect traffic in the 
Portland area?
 


Which Portland?

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Jeff Shultz

Re: Bee attack, fiber cut, 7-hour outage

[Jeff Shultz]

Deepak Jain wrote:




Sean Donelan wrote:



http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5148125.html

(AUSTIN) Telephone service was out for seven hours in rural Central 
Texas after bees attacked a construction worker, causing him to jump 
off his tractor and hit a lever that lowered an auger that sliced a 
fiber-optic line.





Is this a 7 hour outage a comment on rural Central Texas availability of 
fiber splicers or novel ways fiber gets cut?


I'm thinking that getting hit by an auger might put the fiber more into 
the mangled category rather than simply cut.


Anytime you talk about rural I'm impressed with 7 hours, however -- 
isn't SONET supposed to make this better?


SONET... yeah, right. We had a fiber-seeking backhoe take out some fiber 
in the mid-Willamette Valley recently - it took out long distance for 
several smaller local phone companies for about that long as well. 911 
service for at least some people too. I'm interestedly awaiting the 
final word on what happened there...


Jeff

Re: DNS not working

[Jeff Shultz]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, I try adding google.com to my dns server to get more visitors
but google.com still show search engine. 


For which your customers are grateful


Please advise how to do so more visitor in return? May the Gods be with you!



Mine prefers not to cheat.

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