Re: DDOS solution recommendation
Ditto - we've been seeing average attack size pushing the 40-50 Gbps mark. The serious attacks are much, much larger. On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Ammar Zuberi am...@fastreturn.net wrote: I'd beg to differ on this one. The average attacks we're seeing are double that, around the 30-40g mark. Since NTP and SSDP amplification began, we've been seeing all kinds of large attacks. Obviously, these can easily be blocked upstream to your network. Hibernia Networks blocks them for us. Ammar On 11 Jan 2015, at 8:37 am, Paul S. cont...@winterei.se wrote: While it indeed is true that attacks up to 600 gbit/s (If OVH and CloudFlare's data is to be believed) have been known to happen in the wild, it's very unlikely that you need to mitigate anything close. The average attack is usually around the 10g mark (That too barely) -- so even solutions that service up to 20g work alright. Obviously, concerns are different if you're an enterprise that's a DDoS magnet -- but for general service providers selling 'protected services,' food for thought. On 1/11/2015 午後 12:48, Damian Menscher wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Manuel Marín m...@transtelco.net wrote: I was wondering what are are using for DDOS protection in your networks. We are currently evaluating different options (Arbor, Radware, NSFocus, RioRey) and I would like to know if someone is using the cloud based solutions/scrubbing centers like Imperva, Prolexic, etc and what are the advantages/disadvantages of using a cloud base vs an on-premise solution. It would be great if you can share your experience on this matter. On-premise solutions are limited by your own bandwidth. Attacks have been publicly reported at 400Gbps, and are rumored to be even larger. If you don't have that much network to spare, then packet loss will occur upstream of your mitigation. Having a good relationship with your network provider(s) can help here, of course. If you go with a cloud-based solution, be wary of their SLA. I've seen some claim 100% uptime (not believable) but of course no refund/credits for downtime. Another provider only provides 20Gbps protection, then will null-route the victim. On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@thefnf.org wrote: Also how are folks testing ddos protection? What lab gear,tools,methods are you using to determine effectiveness of the mitigation. Live-fire is the cheapest approach (just requires some creative trolling) but if you want to control the off button, cloud VMs can be tailored to your needs. There are also legitimate companies that do network stress testing. Keep in mind that you need to test against a variety of attacks, against all components in the critical path. Attackers aren't particularly methodical, but will still randomly discover any weaknesses you've overlooked. Damian
Tech Laptop with DB9
Hi all, DB9 ports seem to be a nearly extinct feature on laptops. Any suggestions on a cheap laptop for use in field support (with an onboard DB9)? Thanks, Max
Re: Tech Laptop with DB9
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Job Snijders j...@instituut.net wrote: Do you have a specific application that would prohibit the use of USB? It's purely for convenience and forgetfulness.
One Wilshire Radio Room
Hello all, I'm looking for someone with space in the One Wilshire Radio Room. Please contact me off list. Thanks Max (310) 906-0296 max.cl...@gmail.com
Internap Looking Glass / Route Server
Hello, I'm looking for a public looking glass / route server connected to Internap - preferably in Los Angeles. Does such a thing exist? Thanks, Max
Re: HE.net, Fremont-2 outage?
http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.com/Diesel_Fuel_Consumption.aspx On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: FWIW: http://www.he.net/releases/release18.html How long can they go on those 3000 gallons under their current load?
IPv6 Wow
I'm in LA with Time Warner Cable - didn't know they rolled out an IPv6 link to AMS-IX. HOST: macbook.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. 2002:4ca6:18c5::21b:63ff:fef 0.0%100.8 1.5 0.7 4.6 1.2 2. 2002:82f4:21::1 50.0%10 185.4 188.3 185.4 197.1 5.0 3. 2a00:800:0:1::2:2 0.0%10 219.8 215.3 205.8 229.9 8.6 4. ams-ix.he.net 0.0%10 200.9 192.0 187.0 201.9 5.6 5. 10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.l 0.0%10 195.7 198.1 192.8 214.1 6.5 6. 10gigabitethernet2-3.core1.n 0.0%10 275.4 266.4 261.7 275.4 3.8 7. 10gigabitethernet3-1.core1.s 0.0%10 344.4 345.1 342.4 351.0 2.4 8. 10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.p 0.0%10 350.8 350.0 342.4 364.5 7.5 9. ??? 100.0100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
Re: [NANOG] Purpose of Internap's PNET AS22212
It's actually very easy to explain. The InterNAP Flow Control (FCP) was designed to route traffic via the cheapest link available provided the link is within an operating range. Over the years the PNAPs have preferred different transit providers based on the underlying contract rate - but what rate could possibly be better than free(1)? So as time passes you will more than likely see more and more of AS22212 in your path. -Max 1. Peering is not free, but much less expensive than paying ATT. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Randy Epstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thurber, PNET (AS22212) is looked upon by InterNAP's PNAPs (its various ASes) as just another transit provider in the mix. So yes, InterNAP technically peers (under AS22212), but there is no guarantee its various PNAPs would choose that path, depending upon a number of factors. (Disclaimer: This is what I've gathered from public information, not from information obtained under non-disclosure.) Regards, Randy -Original Message- From: Thurber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:01 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: [NANOG] Purpose of Internap's PNET AS22212 Can anybody shed some light on Internap's PNET AS22212? Specifaly how it relates to their PNAP architecture? Is Internap now doing peering? I was under the impression that their entire business model was based around isolated PNAPs and being a backboneless provider. Attempts at getting an explanation from Internap have been fruitless. CT ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog