Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

2021-02-19 Thread Max Tulyev

We can help, of course ;)

Mail me off-list for details. Or isn't it off-topic right here?

17.02.21 06:53, Mann, Jason via NANOG пише:

Any recommendations for legitimate ip brokers?


*From:* NANOG  on behalf of 
Michael Thomas 

*Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:46 PM
*To:* Fred Baker 
*Cc:* nanog@nanog.org 
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of 
IPv4 addresses?


On 2/16/21 4:18 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
You may find this article interesting: 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.apnic.net/2019/12/13/keep-calm-and-carry-on-the-status-of-ipv4-address-allocation/__;!!GaaboA!999i8DMj5mceMG2R6J8wgZ29XjBhQvAJU3QMixqhvjqpQCsdAvcck6BpWKVqMw$ 
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.apnic.net/2019/12/13/keep-calm-and-carry-on-the-status-of-ipv4-address-allocation/__;!!GaaboA!999i8DMj5mceMG2R6J8wgZ29XjBhQvAJU3QMixqhvjqpQCsdAvcck6BpWKVqMw$> 

<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.apnic.net/2019/12/13/keep-calm-and-carry-on-the-status-of-ipv4-address-allocation/__;!!GaaboA!999i8DMj5mceMG2R6J8wgZ29XjBhQvAJU3QMixqhvjqpQCsdAvcck6BpWKVqMw$ 

 >



So aside from Afrinic, this is all being done on the gray market?
Wouldn't you expect that price to follow something like an exponential
curve as available addresses become more and more scarce and unavailable
for essentially any price?

Mike



Sent from my iPad


On Feb 16, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Michael Thomas  wrote:


Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, 
what is happening?


Mike



Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

2021-02-16 Thread Mann, Jason via NANOG
Any recommendations for legitimate ip brokers?


From: NANOG  on behalf of Michael Thomas 

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:46 PM
To: Fred Baker 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 
addresses?


On 2/16/21 4:18 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
> You may find this article interesting:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.apnic.net/2019/12/13/keep-calm-and-carry-on-the-status-of-ipv4-address-allocation/__;!!GaaboA!999i8DMj5mceMG2R6J8wgZ29XjBhQvAJU3QMixqhvjqpQCsdAvcck6BpWKVqMw$
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.apnic.net/2019/12/13/keep-calm-and-carry-on-the-status-of-ipv4-address-allocation/__;!!GaaboA!999i8DMj5mceMG2R6J8wgZ29XjBhQvAJU3QMixqhvjqpQCsdAvcck6BpWKVqMw$
>  >
>
So aside from Afrinic, this is all being done on the gray market?
Wouldn't you expect that price to follow something like an exponential
curve as available addresses become more and more scarce and unavailable
for essentially any price?

Mike


> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 16, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Michael Thomas  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so,
>> what is happening?
>>
>> Mike
>>


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

2021-02-16 Thread Elvis Daniel Velea
Hi,

> On Feb 16, 2021, at 15:42, Mann, Jason via NANOG  wrote:
> 
> 
> Are their legtimate websites to go to purchase new blocks?

look at https://www.v4escrow.com as it may be what you are looking for.

Elvis

> 
> From: NANOG  on behalf of Jennifer 
> Sims 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:10 PM
> To: Michael Thomas 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 
> addresses?
>  
> Pretty sure APNIC is out of addresses.
> 
> It's now a matter of "when someone sells a block, you buy a block".
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:07 AM Michael Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what 
> is happening?
> 
> Mike
> 


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

2021-02-16 Thread Niels Bakker

* nanog@nanog.org (Mann, Jason via NANOG) [Wed 17 Feb 2021, 00:44 CET]:

Are their legtimate websites to go to purchase new blocks?


IPv4 is not like Bitcoin, new addresses aren't being mined using 
gigantic amounts of electricity at enormous environmental cost.



-- Niels.


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

2021-02-16 Thread Mann, Jason via NANOG
Are their legtimate websites to go to purchase new blocks?


From: NANOG  on behalf of Jennifer Sims 

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:10 PM
To: Michael Thomas 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 
addresses?

Pretty sure APNIC is out of addresses.

It's now a matter of "when someone sells a block, you buy a block".

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:07 AM Michael Thomas 
mailto:m...@mtcc.com>> wrote:

Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what
is happening?

Mike