802.11 based WISP hardware

2015-03-27 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Hi all,

I’m looking to gather some public opinion, links and pointers around the 
current landscape of WISP hardware vendors.  I’m familiar with Cisco, Ruckus, 
AdTran, Motorola and Aruba (HP) but I’m wondering who else is out there that 
folks have used with success.  My main areas of interest are around controller 
based (hardware or virtual (in-house, not off-net cloud based)) systems that 
have a range of indoor  outdoor 802.11AC PoE capable APs.  The controller(s) 
would be capable of tunnelling traffic from the APs for one or more SSIDs, 
support per-SSID captive portals and unique, intra-SSID captive portals.  In a 
perfect world, an on-board DHCP server would be super handy too.  The system 
should support CAPWAP, but some proprietary alternative is also fine, the usual 
suite of security protocols per SSID, reliable intra-SSID AP roaming algorithms 
and multi-SSID capable.

Thanks in advance.

Re: 802.11 based WISP hardware

2015-03-27 Thread Dan Brisson
Definitely take a look at Mikrotik.  The gear is very low-cost with very 
large feature set.  I have not used their CAPWAP functionality, so I 
can't speak to that.


Ubiquiti is also very good and can do most, if not all, of what you want.

-dan

Dan Brisson
Network Engineer
University of Vermont

On 3/27/15 6:59 AM, Jason Lixfeld wrote:

Hi all,

I’m looking to gather some public opinion, links and pointers around the current 
landscape of WISP hardware vendors.  I’m familiar with Cisco, Ruckus, AdTran, 
Motorola and Aruba (HP) but I’m wondering who else is out there that folks have 
used with success.  My main areas of interest are around controller based (hardware 
or virtual (in-house, not off-net cloud based)) systems that have a range of indoor 
 outdoor 802.11AC PoE capable APs.  The controller(s) would be capable of 
tunnelling traffic from the APs for one or more SSIDs, support per-SSID captive 
portals and unique, intra-SSID captive portals.  In a perfect world, an on-board 
DHCP server would be super handy too.  The system should support CAPWAP, but some 
proprietary alternative is also fine, the usual suite of security protocols per 
SSID, reliable intra-SSID AP roaming algorithms and multi-SSID capable.

Thanks in advance.




RE: 802.11 based WISP hardware

2015-03-27 Thread Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D.
In my experience in the rural areas around DFW most of the smaller operations, 
such as I had until recently, used Mikrotik equipment. Around here SkyBeam has 
bought out all of the small and most of the large WISPs. They retired the 
Mikrotik equipment in favor of Motorola Canopy originally. I was told the 
Canopy line may have been sold to someone else. I think Cambium.

The Mikrotik equipment I had at the top of my 96 foot tall tower was rock 
solid. Never a hiccup in years of service in all kinds of weather. Of course I 
did a proper standards based installation including bonding and grounding. 
Proper installation makes a big difference no matter what you use.

Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jason Lixfeld
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:00 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: 802.11 based WISP hardware

Hi all,

I’m looking to gather some public opinion, links and pointers around the 
current landscape of WISP hardware vendors.  I’m familiar with Cisco, Ruckus, 
AdTran, Motorola and Aruba (HP) but I’m wondering who else is out there that 
folks have used with success.  My main areas of interest are around controller 
based (hardware or virtual (in-house, not off-net cloud based)) systems that 
have a range of indoor  outdoor 802.11AC PoE capable APs.  The controller(s) 
would be capable of tunnelling traffic from the APs for one or more SSIDs, 
support per-SSID captive portals and unique, intra-SSID captive portals.  In a 
perfect world, an on-board DHCP server would be super handy too.  The system 
should support CAPWAP, but some proprietary alternative is also fine, the usual 
suite of security protocols per SSID, reliable intra-SSID AP roaming algorithms 
and multi-SSID capable.

Thanks in advance.



RE: 802.11 based WISP hardware

2015-03-27 Thread Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D.
I have noticed that larger companies do not like Mikrotik. Its market centered 
on the mom and pop operations around here.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:34 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Re: 802.11 based WISP hardware

Ken Chipps, there's a name I haven't seen in a while. 

Motorola did sell the Canopy line off to private equity and is now Cambiun 
Networks. 

I started with Mikrotik in my WISP and still use them for routers and switches, 
but I cannot recommend them for the fixed wireless portion. They haven't 
pursued FCC certification for 5150 - 5350 or 5470 - 5725. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. chi...@chipps.com 
To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:40:35 AM 
Subject: RE: 802.11 based WISP hardware 

In my experience in the rural areas around DFW most of the smaller operations, 
such as I had until recently, used Mikrotik equipment. Around here SkyBeam has 
bought out all of the small and most of the large WISPs. They retired the 
Mikrotik equipment in favor of Motorola Canopy originally. I was told the 
Canopy line may have been sold to someone else. I think Cambium. 

The Mikrotik equipment I had at the top of my 96 foot tall tower was rock 
solid. Never a hiccup in years of service in all kinds of weather. Of course I 
did a proper standards based installation including bonding and grounding. 
Proper installation makes a big difference no matter what you use. 

Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. 

-Original Message- 
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jason Lixfeld 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:00 AM 
To: NANOG 
Subject: 802.11 based WISP hardware 

Hi all, 

I’m looking to gather some public opinion, links and pointers around the 
current landscape of WISP hardware vendors. I’m familiar with Cisco, Ruckus, 
AdTran, Motorola and Aruba (HP) but I’m wondering who else is out there that 
folks have used with success. My main areas of interest are around controller 
based (hardware or virtual (in-house, not off-net cloud based)) systems that 
have a range of indoor  outdoor 802.11AC PoE capable APs. The controller(s) 
would be capable of tunnelling traffic from the APs for one or more SSIDs, 
support per-SSID captive portals and unique, intra-SSID captive portals. In a 
perfect world, an on-board DHCP server would be super handy too. The system 
should support CAPWAP, but some proprietary alternative is also fine, the usual 
suite of security protocols per SSID, reliable intra-SSID AP roaming algorithms 
and multi-SSID capable. 

Thanks in advance. 






RE: 802.11 based WISP hardware

2015-03-27 Thread Eric Rogers
Try Unifi by Ubiquiti.  We use it for our public hotspots and our internal 
network.  Very easy to manage, and you can load the controller in a VMWare 
instance.

Eric Rogers
PDSConnect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jason Lixfeld
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:00 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: 802.11 based WISP hardware

Hi all,

I’m looking to gather some public opinion, links and pointers around the 
current landscape of WISP hardware vendors.  I’m familiar with Cisco, Ruckus, 
AdTran, Motorola and Aruba (HP) but I’m wondering who else is out there that 
folks have used with success.  My main areas of interest are around controller 
based (hardware or virtual (in-house, not off-net cloud based)) systems that 
have a range of indoor  outdoor 802.11AC PoE capable APs.  The controller(s) 
would be capable of tunnelling traffic from the APs for one or more SSIDs, 
support per-SSID captive portals and unique, intra-SSID captive portals.  In a 
perfect world, an on-board DHCP server would be super handy too.  The system 
should support CAPWAP, but some proprietary alternative is also fine, the usual 
suite of security protocols per SSID, reliable intra-SSID AP roaming algorithms 
and multi-SSID capable.

Thanks in advance.


Re: 802.11 based WISP hardware

2015-03-27 Thread Jared Mauch
I would also caution those considering ubiquiti for anything fixed right now. 
They have a number of unaddressed issues with UNII frequencies and DFS. 

Jared Mauch

 On Mar 27, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
 Ken Chipps, there's a name I haven't seen in a while. 
 
 Motorola did sell the Canopy line off to private equity and is now Cambiun 
 Networks. 
 
 I started with Mikrotik in my WISP and still use them for routers and 
 switches, but I cannot recommend them for the fixed wireless portion. They 
 haven't pursued FCC certification for 5150 - 5350 or 5470 - 5725. 
 
 
 
 
 - 
 Mike Hammett 
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 http://www.ics-il.com 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. chi...@chipps.com 
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org 
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:40:35 AM 
 Subject: RE: 802.11 based WISP hardware 
 
 In my experience in the rural areas around DFW most of the smaller 
 operations, such as I had until recently, used Mikrotik equipment. Around 
 here SkyBeam has bought out all of the small and most of the large WISPs. 
 They retired the Mikrotik equipment in favor of Motorola Canopy originally. I 
 was told the Canopy line may have been sold to someone else. I think Cambium. 
 
 The Mikrotik equipment I had at the top of my 96 foot tall tower was rock 
 solid. Never a hiccup in years of service in all kinds of weather. Of course 
 I did a proper standards based installation including bonding and grounding. 
 Proper installation makes a big difference no matter what you use. 
 
 Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jason Lixfeld 
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:00 AM 
 To: NANOG 
 Subject: 802.11 based WISP hardware 
 
 Hi all, 
 
 I’m looking to gather some public opinion, links and pointers around the 
 current landscape of WISP hardware vendors. I’m familiar with Cisco, Ruckus, 
 AdTran, Motorola and Aruba (HP) but I’m wondering who else is out there that 
 folks have used with success. My main areas of interest are around controller 
 based (hardware or virtual (in-house, not off-net cloud based)) systems that 
 have a range of indoor  outdoor 802.11AC PoE capable APs. The controller(s) 
 would be capable of tunnelling traffic from the APs for one or more SSIDs, 
 support per-SSID captive portals and unique, intra-SSID captive portals. In a 
 perfect world, an on-board DHCP server would be super handy too. The system 
 should support CAPWAP, but some proprietary alternative is also fine, the 
 usual suite of security protocols per SSID, reliable intra-SSID AP roaming 
 algorithms and multi-SSID capable. 
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 


Re: 802.11 based WISP hardware

2015-03-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Ken Chipps, there's a name I haven't seen in a while. 

Motorola did sell the Canopy line off to private equity and is now Cambiun 
Networks. 

I started with Mikrotik in my WISP and still use them for routers and switches, 
but I cannot recommend them for the fixed wireless portion. They haven't 
pursued FCC certification for 5150 - 5350 or 5470 - 5725. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. chi...@chipps.com 
To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:40:35 AM 
Subject: RE: 802.11 based WISP hardware 

In my experience in the rural areas around DFW most of the smaller operations, 
such as I had until recently, used Mikrotik equipment. Around here SkyBeam has 
bought out all of the small and most of the large WISPs. They retired the 
Mikrotik equipment in favor of Motorola Canopy originally. I was told the 
Canopy line may have been sold to someone else. I think Cambium. 

The Mikrotik equipment I had at the top of my 96 foot tall tower was rock 
solid. Never a hiccup in years of service in all kinds of weather. Of course I 
did a proper standards based installation including bonding and grounding. 
Proper installation makes a big difference no matter what you use. 

Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. 

-Original Message- 
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jason Lixfeld 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:00 AM 
To: NANOG 
Subject: 802.11 based WISP hardware 

Hi all, 

I’m looking to gather some public opinion, links and pointers around the 
current landscape of WISP hardware vendors. I’m familiar with Cisco, Ruckus, 
AdTran, Motorola and Aruba (HP) but I’m wondering who else is out there that 
folks have used with success. My main areas of interest are around controller 
based (hardware or virtual (in-house, not off-net cloud based)) systems that 
have a range of indoor  outdoor 802.11AC PoE capable APs. The controller(s) 
would be capable of tunnelling traffic from the APs for one or more SSIDs, 
support per-SSID captive portals and unique, intra-SSID captive portals. In a 
perfect world, an on-board DHCP server would be super handy too. The system 
should support CAPWAP, but some proprietary alternative is also fine, the usual 
suite of security protocols per SSID, reliable intra-SSID AP roaming algorithms 
and multi-SSID capable. 

Thanks in advance.