Re: ATT and having two BGP peers
All, Thanks for the help. I just got word that ATT approved the two BGP peering with us. I think telling them others have done it with ATT helped. Much appreciated. -Jay On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Jay Nakamurazeusda...@gmail.com wrote: We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? I know this should have been negotiated before signing a contract but I was unfortunately not in the loop... :( It seems like a ridiculous bureaucratic restriction.
Re: ATT and having two BGP peers
Use a /30 across the circuit and do multihop BGP using other IPs. On Friday 10 July 2009 13:48:15 Jay Nakamura wrote: We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? I know this should have been negotiated before signing a contract but I was unfortunately not in the loop... :( It seems like a ridiculous bureaucratic restriction.
ATT and having two BGP peers
We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? I know this should have been negotiated before signing a contract but I was unfortunately not in the loop... :( It seems like a ridiculous bureaucratic restriction.
Re: ATT and having two BGP peers
On Jul 10, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Jay Nakamura wrote: We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? I know this should have been negotiated before signing a contract but I was unfortunately not in the loop... :( It seems like a ridiculous bureaucratic restriction. Welcome to ATT's reality. Fighting people who have been set in their ways for over a century and actually capable of making the federal government bend to their will is probably not good for your stress level. -- TTFN, patrick
Re: ATT and having two BGP peers
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote: We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? Sounds odd. They do IPv6 tunnels using 2 tunnels/routers. The /30 reason is even more odd for an ethernet circuit. Antonio Querubin whois: AQ7-ARIN
Re: ATT and having two BGP peers
If it is the way ATT have designed their product, there may be no other way around. From ATT's viewpoint, it will add more complexity to troubleshoot. If you pay extra, ATT may have some solution for you. Alex Antonio Querubin wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote: We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? Sounds odd. They do IPv6 tunnels using 2 tunnels/routers. The /30 reason is even more odd for an ethernet circuit. Antonio Querubin whois: AQ7-ARIN
Re: ATT and having two BGP peers
Threaten to twitter about it. Worked for the guy on myth busters.. ;) - Original Message - From: Jay Nakamura zeusda...@gmail.com To: na...@merit.edu na...@merit.edu Sent: Fri Jul 10 09:48:15 2009 Subject: ATT and having two BGP peers We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? I know this should have been negotiated before signing a contract but I was unfortunately not in the loop... :( It seems like a ridiculous bureaucratic restriction.
Re: ATT and having two BGP peers
Cancel the circuit...I know most of the providers I've worked with have a 90 satisfaction guarantee. Chances are if you cancel the circuit they will mysteriously find a way to work with you. Warren Bailey wrote: Threaten to twitter about it. Worked for the guy on myth busters.. ;) - Original Message - From: Jay Nakamura zeusda...@gmail.com To: na...@merit.edu na...@merit.edu Sent: Fri Jul 10 09:48:15 2009 Subject: ATT and having two BGP peers We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? I know this should have been negotiated before signing a contract but I was unfortunately not in the loop... :( It seems like a ridiculous bureaucratic restriction.
RE: ATT and having two BGP peers
Att is hard to deal with I ran into a situation not long ago where I needed to get a t1 cross connect from one cage to another within a building. They consider floor 3 a CO and floor 7 a different CO. both floors share the same wiring frame room like on the 5th floor. Well they wouldn't allow me to order a cross connect between the 2 floors without having actual cage space on the specific floor even tho they are in the same wiring frame room. On top of that if I wanted to be on the other floor I would have to come in via the outside entrance and do meet point fibers out in the st. btw this is on the telco side what a nightmare... -carlos -Original Message- From: Alex H. Ryu [mailto:r.hyuns...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:19 AM To: Antonio Querubin Cc: na...@merit.edu Subject: Re: ATT and having two BGP peers If it is the way ATT have designed their product, there may be no other way around. From ATT's viewpoint, it will add more complexity to troubleshoot. If you pay extra, ATT may have some solution for you. Alex Antonio Querubin wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote: We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? Sounds odd. They do IPv6 tunnels using 2 tunnels/routers. The /30 reason is even more odd for an ethernet circuit. Antonio Querubin whois: AQ7-ARIN
RE: ATT and having two BGP peers
That is crazy when we turn up new BGP customers, we always put a /29 in place now - for that reason and for others saves a LOT of headaches when some changes are needed down the road...;) Paul -Original Message- From: Bret Clark [mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:54 PM To: na...@merit.edu Subject: Re: ATT and having two BGP peers Cancel the circuit...I know most of the providers I've worked with have a 90 satisfaction guarantee. Chances are if you cancel the circuit they will mysteriously find a way to work with you. Warren Bailey wrote: Threaten to twitter about it. Worked for the guy on myth busters.. ;) - Original Message - From: Jay Nakamura zeusda...@gmail.com To: na...@merit.edu na...@merit.edu Sent: Fri Jul 10 09:48:15 2009 Subject: ATT and having two BGP peers We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone been able to successfully talk them in to bending their rule? If so, how? I know this should have been negotiated before signing a contract but I was unfortunately not in the loop... :( It seems like a ridiculous bureaucratic restriction. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and contains confidential and/or privileged material. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and then destroy this transmission, including all attachments, without copying, distributing or disclosing same. Thank you.
