Re: Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Martin Hannigan
Hi Patrick,

Correct answer. No surprise. And yes, netsupport-...@akamai.com is still
the way to go for these types of issues.

Thanks for the help!

Best,

-M<  // AS 20940



On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore 
wrote:

> Akamai does not follow BGP perfectly, for many reasons, including BGP
> preferring crappy paths much of the time.
>
> ISPs should email netsupport-...@akamai.com to get help with traffic
> engineering, performance, and other questions. (Or at least that used to be
> the case a year ago.)
>
> --
> TTFN,
> patrick
>
> > On May 13, 2015, at 15:33 , Chuck Church  wrote:
> >
> > Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),
> >
> >   Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
> > we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
> > upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for
> Akamai to
> > verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
> > 162.220.232.0/23.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
>
>


Re: Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Akamai does not do this.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

> On May 13, 2015, at 15:42 , Jake Mertel  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> Just throwing this out there as a possibility, I've seen similar issues
> with other ISPs wherein the root cause was their BGP speaking routers using
> a filter set published by (I'm almost certain) Cisco that, among other
> things, blocks announcements of any prefix that is smaller then the minimum
> prefix size allocated from an RIR for the prefix in question. If you look
> at https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html you will see that they now
> say "All prefixes have the potential to have a /24 minimum size allocation
> issued from them.", but this was not always the case. For example, looking
> at the archive.org copy of that page from
> https://web.archive.org/web/20140107021136/https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html
> on January 7, 2014, the smallest prefix they allocated from 162/8 was a
> /22. I did some quick google'ing but was unable to find a copy of the
> filter set in question. I poked a few of my colleagues and will  let you
> know if I'm able to find a copy for reference.
> 
> --Jake
> 
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Chuck Church 
> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),
>> 
>>Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
>> we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
>> upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for Akamai
>> to
>> verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
>> 162.220.232.0/23.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 



Re: Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Jake Mertel
Chuck,

Just throwing this out there as a possibility, I've seen similar issues
with other ISPs wherein the root cause was their BGP speaking routers using
a filter set published by (I'm almost certain) Cisco that, among other
things, blocks announcements of any prefix that is smaller then the minimum
prefix size allocated from an RIR for the prefix in question. If you look
at https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html you will see that they now
say "All prefixes have the potential to have a /24 minimum size allocation
issued from them.", but this was not always the case. For example, looking
at the archive.org copy of that page from
https://web.archive.org/web/20140107021136/https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html
on January 7, 2014, the smallest prefix they allocated from 162/8 was a
/22. I did some quick google'ing but was unable to find a copy of the
filter set in question. I poked a few of my colleagues and will  let you
know if I'm able to find a copy for reference.

--Jake

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Chuck Church 
wrote:

> Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),
>
> Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
> we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
> upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for Akamai
> to
> verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
> 162.220.232.0/23.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Akamai does not follow BGP perfectly, for many reasons, including BGP 
preferring crappy paths much of the time.

ISPs should email netsupport-...@akamai.com to get help with traffic 
engineering, performance, and other questions. (Or at least that used to be the 
case a year ago.)

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

> On May 13, 2015, at 15:33 , Chuck Church  wrote:
> 
> Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),
> 
>   Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
> we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
> upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for Akamai to
> verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
> 162.220.232.0/23. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 



Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Chuck Church
Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),

Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for Akamai to
verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
162.220.232.0/23. 

Thanks,

Chuck