RE: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Dennis Burgess
I could look though our customer list and show over 2,000 networks being
ran by RouterOS from small networks running 20-50 meg all the way up to
networks running 10GigE BGP feeds.   We just turned up a location
running 4 BGP GigE feeds in a single router.  

---
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer 
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS"


> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Sullivan [mailto:joseph.sulli...@alyrica.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 2:31 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
> support.
> 
> 
> We use a lot of Mikrotik in our network.  They are fantastic little
routers as
> long as you remember that they are not Cisco/Juniper/whatever.  In
other
> words, you pay a few hundred bucks, you get something worth at least
that
> much.  But don't put it head to head against a $10k router.
> 
> Support is technically sound, but you have to email Latvia and then
wait for
> the time difference to get a response.  If you expect to pay $100 for
a router
> and then get prompt, courteous, 24/7 tech support, you will be
disappointed.
> :)
> 
> We use their routers mostly for end user gateways doing QOS.  They do
a
> superb job of this.  I wouldn't particularly want them as network edge
> devices or core routers; they will choke up if the PPS rate gets too
high and
> you are doing any kind of packet mangling.
> 
> There have been a lot of bugs in various versions of RouterOS, but the
> current (5.8?) OS seems pretty good.  They added IPv6 support and
fixed a
> ton of bugs.
> 
> OSPF implementation was buggy before OS5, but seems to be relatively
> stable since we upgraded.  BGP works fine but is perhaps less feature
rich
> than Cisco/Zebra.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> Alyrica Networks Inc / www.alyrica.net
> 
> 
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Robert E. Seastrom" 
> To: "Leigh Porter" 
> Cc: "nanog list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
> support.
> 
> 
> >
> > Leigh Porter  writes:
> >
> >> Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any
> >> thoughts about the time to fix bugs?
> >
> > I have dealt with Mikrotik support.  They were easily comparable to
> > [CJ]TAC.  Which is to say "guy was pleasant and courteous, I could
> > tell through the language barrier that he wasn't really interested
in
> > addressing my problems or understanding them, and eventually I got
> > exasperated and figured out a work-around".
> >
> > That said, it's easy to exceed expectations when you've spent
> > something like $70 on a router that does five ports of gigabit
> > ethernet.
> >
> > Several dot releases after that little ordeal, at least one of my
> > laundry list of problems (ssh connections blew up if you are using
> > application layer keepalives) seems to have gotten fixed, at least
in
> > 5.8, with nary a mention in the release notes so I assume it was a
> > matter of syncing the codebase to whatever they run for an ssh
server.
> > Still no fix for the "your CLI only partially implements Emacs key
> > binds, please try libcli.a which is LGPL instead", which is annoying
> > since this shortcoming is really up in your grill whenever you're
> > logged into the router.  Still can't traceroute to an IPv6 host by
> > name, only by number.  Dunno if they figured out what the "G" in
"GRE"
> > stands for yet and started allowing protocols other than IPv4 (and
> > ethertypes other than 0x0800) in a GRE tunnel - can't be bothered to
> > test it out since I managed to get 6in4 tunneling working instead.
> > There are more random gripes, but you get the idea - routeros
> > definitely shows a certain lack of polish but can get the job done
for
> > low-end stuff at a very acceptably low-end price.
> >
> > All in all, despite the gripes it's worth your time to check out.
> > Don't let the folks who sing their praises get your hopes up too
much
> > but hey, for pocket change invested?  Pretty decent.  There are some
> > good surprises in there too, like putative support for 32 bit ASNs
> > (haven't tested that myself) and scriptability that will allow you
to
> > send TSIG-signed dns update messages periodically for when you have
> > customers to support that are on the far end of a non-sticky DHCP.
> >
> > -r
> 




Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Joseph Sullivan


We use a lot of Mikrotik in our network.  They are fantastic little routers 
as long as you remember that they are not Cisco/Juniper/whatever.  In other 
words, you pay a few hundred bucks, you get something worth at least that 
much.  But don't put it head to head against a $10k router.


Support is technically sound, but you have to email Latvia and then wait for 
the time difference to get a response.  If you expect to pay $100 for a 
router and then get prompt, courteous, 24/7 tech support, you will be 
disappointed. :)


We use their routers mostly for end user gateways doing QOS.  They do a 
superb job of this.  I wouldn't particularly want them as network edge 
devices or core routers; they will choke up if the PPS rate gets too high 
and you are doing any kind of packet mangling.


There have been a lot of bugs in various versions of RouterOS, but the 
current (5.8?) OS seems pretty good.  They added IPv6 support and fixed a 
ton of bugs.


OSPF implementation was buggy before OS5, but seems to be relatively stable 
since we upgraded.  BGP works fine but is perhaps less feature rich than 
Cisco/Zebra.


Joseph

Alyrica Networks Inc / www.alyrica.net


- Original Message - 
From: "Robert E. Seastrom" 

To: "Leigh Porter" 
Cc: "nanog list" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good 
support.





Leigh Porter  writes:


Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any
thoughts about the time to fix bugs?


I have dealt with Mikrotik support.  They were easily comparable to
[CJ]TAC.  Which is to say "guy was pleasant and courteous, I could
tell through the language barrier that he wasn't really interested in
addressing my problems or understanding them, and eventually I got
exasperated and figured out a work-around".

That said, it's easy to exceed expectations when you've spent
something like $70 on a router that does five ports of gigabit
ethernet.

Several dot releases after that little ordeal, at least one of my
laundry list of problems (ssh connections blew up if you are using
application layer keepalives) seems to have gotten fixed, at least in
5.8, with nary a mention in the release notes so I assume it was a
matter of syncing the codebase to whatever they run for an ssh server.
Still no fix for the "your CLI only partially implements Emacs key
binds, please try libcli.a which is LGPL instead", which is annoying
since this shortcoming is really up in your grill whenever you're
logged into the router.  Still can't traceroute to an IPv6 host by
name, only by number.  Dunno if they figured out what the "G" in "GRE"
stands for yet and started allowing protocols other than IPv4 (and
ethertypes other than 0x0800) in a GRE tunnel - can't be bothered to
test it out since I managed to get 6in4 tunneling working instead.
There are more random gripes, but you get the idea - routeros
definitely shows a certain lack of polish but can get the job done for
low-end stuff at a very acceptably low-end price.

All in all, despite the gripes it's worth your time to check out.
Don't let the folks who sing their praises get your hopes up too much
but hey, for pocket change invested?  Pretty decent.  There are some
good surprises in there too, like putative support for 32 bit ASNs
(haven't tested that myself) and scriptability that will allow you to
send TSIG-signed dns update messages periodically for when you have
customers to support that are on the far end of a non-sticky DHCP.

-r 





Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Robert E. Seastrom

Leigh Porter  writes:

> Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any
> thoughts about the time to fix bugs?

I have dealt with Mikrotik support.  They were easily comparable to
[CJ]TAC.  Which is to say "guy was pleasant and courteous, I could
tell through the language barrier that he wasn't really interested in
addressing my problems or understanding them, and eventually I got
exasperated and figured out a work-around".

That said, it's easy to exceed expectations when you've spent
something like $70 on a router that does five ports of gigabit
ethernet.

Several dot releases after that little ordeal, at least one of my
laundry list of problems (ssh connections blew up if you are using
application layer keepalives) seems to have gotten fixed, at least in
5.8, with nary a mention in the release notes so I assume it was a
matter of syncing the codebase to whatever they run for an ssh server.
Still no fix for the "your CLI only partially implements Emacs key
binds, please try libcli.a which is LGPL instead", which is annoying
since this shortcoming is really up in your grill whenever you're
logged into the router.  Still can't traceroute to an IPv6 host by
name, only by number.  Dunno if they figured out what the "G" in "GRE"
stands for yet and started allowing protocols other than IPv4 (and
ethertypes other than 0x0800) in a GRE tunnel - can't be bothered to
test it out since I managed to get 6in4 tunneling working instead.
There are more random gripes, but you get the idea - routeros
definitely shows a certain lack of polish but can get the job done for
low-end stuff at a very acceptably low-end price.

All in all, despite the gripes it's worth your time to check out.
Don't let the folks who sing their praises get your hopes up too much
but hey, for pocket change invested?  Pretty decent.  There are some
good surprises in there too, like putative support for 32 bit ASNs
(haven't tested that myself) and scriptability that will allow you to
send TSIG-signed dns update messages periodically for when you have
customers to support that are on the far end of a non-sticky DHCP.

-r




Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Meftah Tayeb

+1 Faisal
never has any kind of issue with RouterBoards :)
Faisal, please contact me offlist

- Original Message - 
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 

To: "Thomas York" 
Cc: ; ; 
; 

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good 
support.



Having worked with approx 10-15 units of RouterBoards,  I cannot say that 
I have see this issue.


Could it be some sort of a software bug ?  we typically update the 
mikrotik OS and Firmware before we deploy.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&  Telecom


On 11/22/2011 1:58 PM, Thomas York wrote:
I've had one major, glaring issue with RouterBoard/Mikrotik. Quite often, 
I
will configure a new router/AP/whatever Mikrotik device and it simply 
will

not work. The config is correct, but the device just won't work properly
(sometimes it won't pass data, it won't bridge correctly, VLAN membership
isn't correct, etc). However, if I reset the device to factory settings
(Which takes forever because you have to find the little metal half 
circles

and use a flat-head screwdriver to bridge them) and redo the EXACT same
config everything will magically work.

This annoyance hasn't been enough to make me switch to another brand yet,
but I know every time I have to deploy a new device I'm likely to wrestle
this issue.

--Thomas York

-Original Message-
From: Eduardo Schoedler [mailto:lis...@esds.com.br]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:00 PM
To: 'Meftah Tayeb'; 'Leigh Porter'; fai...@snappydsl.net
Cc: 'nanog list'
Subject: RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.

One missing feature in MikroTik is IS-IS.

--
Eduardo Schoedler




-Mensagem original-
De: Eduardo Schoedler [mailto:lis...@esds.com.br] Enviada em:
terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2011 15:04
Para: 'Meftah Tayeb'; 'Leigh Porter'; fai...@snappydsl.net
Cc: 'nanog list'
Assunto: RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.

One important feature for me is MPLS/VPLS support.

+1 MikroTik

--
Eduardo Schoedler



-Mensagem original-
De: Meftah Tayeb [mailto:tayeb.mef...@gmail.com] Enviada em:
segunda-feira, 21 de novembro de 2011 12:26
Para: Leigh Porter; fai...@snappydsl.net
Cc: nanog list
Assunto: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.

Leigh,
MT is very responcive
wonderfull
fast bug fixs and very organised RouterOs releases i use it a lot
and have a hell load of features support all major routing protocols
BGP, OSPF / OSPFv3, RIP/RIPNG, PIM for multicast, MME for wireless
and much

more.

thank you

- Original Message -
From: "Leigh Porter"
To:
Cc: "nanog list"
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.


Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any
thoughts about the time to fix bugs?

--
Leigh


On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:57, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:


mikrotik family .. you can have all sizes and shapes of routers ..
lots of support available online or from independent consultants.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&   Telecom


On 11/22/2011 10:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:

Hi

Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?

They are reliable and have  good support provided

We would like to get one for testing.

Thank you





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Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Having worked with approx 10-15 units of RouterBoards,  I cannot say 
that I have see this issue.


Could it be some sort of a software bug ?  we typically update the 
mikrotik OS and Firmware before we deploy.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&  Telecom


On 11/22/2011 1:58 PM, Thomas York wrote:

I've had one major, glaring issue with RouterBoard/Mikrotik. Quite often, I
will configure a new router/AP/whatever Mikrotik device and it simply will
not work. The config is correct, but the device just won't work properly
(sometimes it won't pass data, it won't bridge correctly, VLAN membership
isn't correct, etc). However, if I reset the device to factory settings
(Which takes forever because you have to find the little metal half circles
and use a flat-head screwdriver to bridge them) and redo the EXACT same
config everything will magically work.

This annoyance hasn't been enough to make me switch to another brand yet,
but I know every time I have to deploy a new device I'm likely to wrestle
this issue.

--Thomas York

-Original Message-
From: Eduardo Schoedler [mailto:lis...@esds.com.br]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:00 PM
To: 'Meftah Tayeb'; 'Leigh Porter'; fai...@snappydsl.net
Cc: 'nanog list'
Subject: RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.

One missing feature in MikroTik is IS-IS.

--
Eduardo Schoedler




-Mensagem original-
De: Eduardo Schoedler [mailto:lis...@esds.com.br] Enviada em:
terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2011 15:04
Para: 'Meftah Tayeb'; 'Leigh Porter'; fai...@snappydsl.net
Cc: 'nanog list'
Assunto: RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.

One important feature for me is MPLS/VPLS support.

+1 MikroTik

--
Eduardo Schoedler



-Mensagem original-
De: Meftah Tayeb [mailto:tayeb.mef...@gmail.com] Enviada em:
segunda-feira, 21 de novembro de 2011 12:26
Para: Leigh Porter; fai...@snappydsl.net
Cc: nanog list
Assunto: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.

Leigh,
MT is very responcive
wonderfull
fast bug fixs and very organised RouterOs releases i use it a lot
and have a hell load of features support all major routing protocols
BGP, OSPF / OSPFv3, RIP/RIPNG, PIM for multicast, MME for wireless
and much

more.

thank you

- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh Porter"
To:
Cc: "nanog list"
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.


Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any
thoughts about the time to fix bugs?

--
Leigh


On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:57, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:


mikrotik family .. you can have all sizes and shapes of routers ..
lots of support available online or from independent consultants.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&   Telecom


On 11/22/2011 10:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:

Hi

Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?

They are reliable and have  good support provided

We would like to get one for testing.

Thank you






RE: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas York
I've had one major, glaring issue with RouterBoard/Mikrotik. Quite often, I
will configure a new router/AP/whatever Mikrotik device and it simply will
not work. The config is correct, but the device just won't work properly
(sometimes it won't pass data, it won't bridge correctly, VLAN membership
isn't correct, etc). However, if I reset the device to factory settings
(Which takes forever because you have to find the little metal half circles
and use a flat-head screwdriver to bridge them) and redo the EXACT same
config everything will magically work.

This annoyance hasn't been enough to make me switch to another brand yet,
but I know every time I have to deploy a new device I'm likely to wrestle
this issue.

--Thomas York

-Original Message-
From: Eduardo Schoedler [mailto:lis...@esds.com.br] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:00 PM
To: 'Meftah Tayeb'; 'Leigh Porter'; fai...@snappydsl.net
Cc: 'nanog list'
Subject: RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.

One missing feature in MikroTik is IS-IS.

--
Eduardo Schoedler



> -Mensagem original-
> De: Eduardo Schoedler [mailto:lis...@esds.com.br] Enviada em: 
> terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2011 15:04
> Para: 'Meftah Tayeb'; 'Leigh Porter'; fai...@snappydsl.net
> Cc: 'nanog list'
> Assunto: RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good 
> support.
> 
> One important feature for me is MPLS/VPLS support.
> 
> +1 MikroTik
> 
> --
> Eduardo Schoedler
> 
> 
> > -Mensagem original-
> > De: Meftah Tayeb [mailto:tayeb.mef...@gmail.com] Enviada em:
> > segunda-feira, 21 de novembro de 2011 12:26
> > Para: Leigh Porter; fai...@snappydsl.net
> > Cc: nanog list
> > Assunto: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good 
> > support.
> >
> > Leigh,
> > MT is very responcive
> > wonderfull
> > fast bug fixs and very organised RouterOs releases i use it a lot 
> > and have a hell load of features support all major routing protocols 
> > BGP, OSPF / OSPFv3, RIP/RIPNG, PIM for multicast, MME for wireless 
> > and much
> more.
> > thank you
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Leigh Porter" 
> > To: 
> > Cc: "nanog list" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good 
> > support.
> >
> >
> > Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any 
> > thoughts about the time to fix bugs?
> >
> > --
> > Leigh
> >
> >
> > On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:57, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:
> >
> > > mikrotik family .. you can have all sizes and shapes of routers ..
> > > lots of support available online or from independent consultants.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > Faisal Imtiaz
> > > Snappy Internet&  Telecom
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/22/2011 10:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:
> > >> Hi
> > >>
> > >> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
> > >>
> > >> They are reliable and have  good support provided
> > >>
> > >> We would like to get one for testing.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you




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RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
One missing feature in MikroTik is IS-IS.

--
Eduardo Schoedler



> -Mensagem original-
> De: Eduardo Schoedler [mailto:lis...@esds.com.br]
> Enviada em: terça-feira, 22 de novembro de 2011 15:04
> Para: 'Meftah Tayeb'; 'Leigh Porter'; fai...@snappydsl.net
> Cc: 'nanog list'
> Assunto: RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
> support.
> 
> One important feature for me is MPLS/VPLS support.
> 
> +1 MikroTik
> 
> --
> Eduardo Schoedler
> 
> 
> > -Mensagem original-
> > De: Meftah Tayeb [mailto:tayeb.mef...@gmail.com] Enviada em:
> > segunda-feira, 21 de novembro de 2011 12:26
> > Para: Leigh Porter; fai...@snappydsl.net
> > Cc: nanog list
> > Assunto: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
> > support.
> >
> > Leigh,
> > MT is very responcive
> > wonderfull
> > fast bug fixs and very organised RouterOs releases i use it a lot and
> > have a hell load of features support all major routing protocols BGP,
> > OSPF / OSPFv3, RIP/RIPNG, PIM for multicast, MME for wireless and much
> more.
> > thank you
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Leigh Porter" 
> > To: 
> > Cc: "nanog list" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
> > support.
> >
> >
> > Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any
> > thoughts about the time to fix bugs?
> >
> > --
> > Leigh
> >
> >
> > On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:57, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:
> >
> > > mikrotik family .. you can have all sizes and shapes of routers ..
> > > lots of support available online or from independent consultants.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > Faisal Imtiaz
> > > Snappy Internet&  Telecom
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/22/2011 10:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:
> > >> Hi
> > >>
> > >> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
> > >>
> > >> They are reliable and have  good support provided
> > >>
> > >> We would like to get one for testing.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you




Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Robert Bays

On Nov 22, 2011, at 9:09 AM, James Jones wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:43 AM, lorddoskias  wrote:
> 
>> On 11/22/2011 3:38 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
>>> 
>>> They are reliable and have  good support provided
>>> 
>>> We would like to get one for testing.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.vyatta.com/ might be worth checking.
>> 
>> 
> If you are not afraid of the command line check xorp it is what vyatta is
> based on.

Vyatta uses Quagga for the protocol stack.  We switched away from XORP a few 
years ago.

Cheers,
Robert.






Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread James Jones
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:43 AM, lorddoskias  wrote:

> On 11/22/2011 3:38 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
>>
>> They are reliable and have  good support provided
>>
>> We would like to get one for testing.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>>
> http://www.vyatta.com/ might be worth checking.
>
>
If you are not afraid of the command line check xorp it is what vyatta is
based on.


RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
On 22/11/2011 3:06pm, Julien Gormotte wrote:
> Le Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:59:13 -0200,
> "Eduardo Schoedler"  a écrit :
> 
> > On 22/11/2011 1:39pm, Deric Kwok wrote:
> > > Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
> >
> > I prefer Freebsd.
> > Take a look on BSDRP (BSD Route Project).
> > http://bsdrp.net/
> 
> The problem with this is to find good hardware for it, that is affordable,
> robust, and does not uses the power of a desktop pc.

I agree, but with Intel hardware, that's not a problem.

--
Eduardo Schoedler




Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Julien Gormotte
Le Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:59:13 -0200,
"Eduardo Schoedler"  a écrit :

> On 22/11/2011 1:39pm, Deric Kwok wrote:
> > Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
> 
> I prefer Freebsd.
> Take a look on BSDRP (BSD Route Project).
> http://bsdrp.net/

The problem with this is to find good hardware for it, that is
affordable, robust, and does not uses the power of a desktop pc.

> 
> 
> --
> Eduardo Schoedler
> 
> 




RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
One important feature for me is MPLS/VPLS support.

+1 MikroTik

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> -Mensagem original-
> De: Meftah Tayeb [mailto:tayeb.mef...@gmail.com]
> Enviada em: segunda-feira, 21 de novembro de 2011 12:26
> Para: Leigh Porter; fai...@snappydsl.net
> Cc: nanog list
> Assunto: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
> support.
> 
> Leigh,
> MT is very responcive
> wonderfull
> fast bug fixs and very organised RouterOs releases i use it a lot and have
> a hell load of features support all major routing protocols BGP, OSPF /
> OSPFv3, RIP/RIPNG, PIM for multicast, MME for wireless and much more.
> thank you
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Leigh Porter" 
> To: 
> Cc: "nanog list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
> support.
> 
> 
> Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any
> thoughts about the time to fix bugs?
> 
> --
> Leigh
> 
> 
> On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:57, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:
> 
> > mikrotik family .. you can have all sizes and shapes of routers ..
> > lots of support available online or from independent consultants.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet&  Telecom
> >
> >
> > On 11/22/2011 10:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
> >>
> >> They are reliable and have  good support provided
> >>
> >> We would like to get one for testing.
> >>
> >> Thank you




Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Justin Wilson
Imagestream is *nix based and has excellent customer service.



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-Original Message-
From: Meftah Tayeb 
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:24:24 +0200
To: Deric Kwok , nanog list 
Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good
support.

>+1 MikroTik
>http://www.mikrotik.com
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Deric Kwok" 
>To: "nanog list" 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:38 PM
>Subject: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
>>
>> They are reliable and have  good support provided
>>
>> We would like to get one for testing.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
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RES: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
On 22/11/2011 1:39pm, Deric Kwok wrote:
> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?

I prefer Freebsd.
Take a look on BSDRP (BSD Route Project).
http://bsdrp.net/


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Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Leigh Porter
I have used quite a few of their devices and have been impressed. The bang for 
your buck is unlike anything else. I sometimes wonder why I bother buying other 
kit, apart from the larger boxes.

Maybe I'll find a bug and test them out ;-)

-- 
Leigh


On 22 Nov 2011, at 16:04, "Meftah Tayeb"  wrote:

> Leigh,
> MT is very responcive
> wonderfull
> fast bug fixs and very organised RouterOs releases
> i use it a lot and have a hell load of features
> support all major routing protocols BGP, OSPF / OSPFv3, RIP/RIPNG, PIM for 
> multicast, MME for wireless and much more.
> thank you
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Leigh Porter" 
> 
> To: 
> Cc: "nanog list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.
> 
> 
> Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any thoughts 
> about the time to fix bugs?
> 
> -- 
> Leigh
> 
> 
> On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:57, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:
> 
>> mikrotik family .. you can have all sizes and shapes of routers ..
>> lots of support available online or from independent consultants.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet&  Telecom
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/22/2011 10:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
>>> 
>>> They are reliable and have  good support provided
>>> 
>>> We would like to get one for testing.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Meftah Tayeb

Leigh,
MT is very responcive
wonderfull
fast bug fixs and very organised RouterOs releases
i use it a lot and have a hell load of features
support all major routing protocols BGP, OSPF / OSPFv3, RIP/RIPNG, PIM for 
multicast, MME for wireless and much more.

thank you

- Original Message - 
From: "Leigh Porter" 

To: 
Cc: "nanog list" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good 
support.



Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any thoughts 
about the time to fix bugs?


--
Leigh


On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:57, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:


mikrotik family .. you can have all sizes and shapes of routers ..
lots of support available online or from independent consultants.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&  Telecom


On 11/22/2011 10:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:

Hi

Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?

They are reliable and have  good support provided

We would like to get one for testing.

Thank you





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Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Meftah Tayeb

+1 MikroTik
http://www.mikrotik.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Deric Kwok" 

To: "nanog list" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:38 PM
Subject: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.



Hi

Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?

They are reliable and have  good support provided

We would like to get one for testing.

Thank you



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Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Leigh Porter
Has anybody had experience of mikrotik support? Is it any good? Any thoughts 
about the time to fix bugs?

-- 
Leigh


On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:57, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:

> mikrotik family .. you can have all sizes and shapes of routers ..
> lots of support available online or from independent consultants.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet&  Telecom
> 
> 
> On 11/22/2011 10:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
>> 
>> They are reliable and have  good support provided
>> 
>> We would like to get one for testing.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

mikrotik family .. you can have all sizes and shapes of routers ..
lots of support available online or from independent consultants.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&  Telecom


On 11/22/2011 10:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:

Hi

Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?

They are reliable and have  good support provided

We would like to get one for testing.

Thank you






Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Sam Tetherow
http://imagestream.com

On 11/22/11 9:38 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:
> Hi
>
> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
>
> They are reliable and have  good support provided
>
> We would like to get one for testing.
>
> Thank you
>



Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread lorddoskias

On 11/22/2011 3:38 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:

Hi

Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?

They are reliable and have  good support provided

We would like to get one for testing.

Thank you




http://www.vyatta.com/ might be worth checking.



Re: Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Leigh Porter
Brocade have some reasonable boxes.

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On 22 Nov 2011, at 15:40, "Deric Kwok"  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?
> 
> They are reliable and have  good support provided
> 
> We would like to get one for testing.
> 
> Thank you
> 
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Any recommended router. They are reliable and have good support.

2011-11-22 Thread Deric Kwok
Hi

Can I know any selection of Linux routers except cisco / juniper?

They are reliable and have  good support provided

We would like to get one for testing.

Thank you