Re: Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)
Lol -- Jason Hellenthal Inbox: jhellent...@dataix.net Voice: +1 (616) 953-0176 JJH48-ARIN On Jun 26, 2013, at 0:04, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > On 2013-06-25, at 8:54 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > >> Anyone got a pentagram packet and a weje board ? > > Be careful, when you pull out the chalk to draw a pentaGRAM around your data > centre, that you don't – accidentally – draw a pentaGONE. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)
On 2013-06-25, at 8:54 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > Anyone got a pentagram packet and a weje board ? Be careful, when you pull out the chalk to draw a pentaGRAM around your data centre, that you don't – accidentally – draw a pentaGONE.
Re: Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)
Matter of fact the sky is full of lightening right now... Anyone got a pentagram packet and a weje board ? -- Jason Hellenthal Inbox: jhellent...@dataix.net Voice: +1 (616) 953-0176 JJH48-ARIN On Jun 25, 2013, at 22:58, Sean Donelan wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Nick Khamis wrote: >> We are however trying to conform to RFC standards as pointed out by >> Jev. You guys really need to look at this. It's easily implementable: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 > > That remind me I need to finish my April 1 submission to the RFC editor > for next year. This has been sitting in my todo pile for several > years. > > > RFCxxxx for publication on April 1, > > Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC) > > Abstract > > The memo provides an overview and principles regarding Lawful Intercept(LI) > of networks using RFC 1149, "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams > on Avian Carriers." National requirements are not addressed. > > Overview and Rational > > Avian Carriers have not provided law enforcement with advanced capabilities > to conduct covert surveillance of a subject's communications. When approached > by law enforcement, Avian Carriers take flight leaving behind difficult to > decode droppings of their activities. Identifying a specific packet stream > within a large flock of carriers is difficult. Due to the 3D ether space > available to carriers and their intrinsic collision avoidance systems, > although sometimes poorly implemented with windows, performing full content > communications interceptions can be hit or miss. > > This memo does not address specific national requirements for eavesdropping. > Nevertheless, it may be important to public safety that carriers never use > any communication technology which could hinder law enforcement.s access to > the communications of a subject of a lawful order authorizing surveillance. > > Avian Carriers have a long and distinguished history in communications. For > thousands of years they have been used to carry important messages to > military and business leaders. However, they have also been used for > nefarious purposes ranging from possible financial market manipulation after > Napoleo's defeat at Waterloo to reports of enemy pigeons operating in England > during World War II. > > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)
Wow I can't believe this is still going around. All you apparently need for this is a .gov spook possessed by evil entity X and all these avians will come crashing right into their federal widows like a DDoS. Scary head spinning fun ;-) -- Jason Hellenthal Inbox: jhellent...@dataix.net Voice: +1 (616) 953-0176 JJH48-ARIN On Jun 25, 2013, at 22:58, Sean Donelan wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Nick Khamis wrote: >> We are however trying to conform to RFC standards as pointed out by >> Jev. You guys really need to look at this. It's easily implementable: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 > > That remind me I need to finish my April 1 submission to the RFC editor > for next year. This has been sitting in my todo pile for several > years. > > > RFC for publication on April 1, xxxx > > Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC) > > Abstract > > The memo provides an overview and principles regarding Lawful Intercept(LI) > of networks using RFC 1149, "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams > on Avian Carriers." National requirements are not addressed. > > Overview and Rational > > Avian Carriers have not provided law enforcement with advanced capabilities > to conduct covert surveillance of a subject's communications. When approached > by law enforcement, Avian Carriers take flight leaving behind difficult to > decode droppings of their activities. Identifying a specific packet stream > within a large flock of carriers is difficult. Due to the 3D ether space > available to carriers and their intrinsic collision avoidance systems, > although sometimes poorly implemented with windows, performing full content > communications interceptions can be hit or miss. > > This memo does not address specific national requirements for eavesdropping. > Nevertheless, it may be important to public safety that carriers never use > any communication technology which could hinder law enforcement.s access to > the communications of a subject of a lawful order authorizing surveillance. > > Avian Carriers have a long and distinguished history in communications. For > thousands of years they have been used to carry important messages to > military and business leaders. However, they have also been used for > nefarious purposes ranging from possible financial market manipulation after > Napoleo's defeat at Waterloo to reports of enemy pigeons operating in England > during World War II. > > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)
On 2013-06-25, at 8:24 PM, "Caruso, Anthony" wrote: > Yes, if you can identify the source of the grains, you know origin and flight > path prior to your lawn. NSA approach's is getting the pigeon shit off of > everyone's lawn... Then I am in favour of PRISM. NSA: come vacuum all the pigeon shit off my boat! Please!!!
Re: Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)
On 2013-06-25, at 7:58 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: > The memo provides an overview and principles regarding Lawful Intercept(LI) > of networks using RFC 1149, "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams > on Avian Carriers." National requirements are not addressed. Is scooping pigeon shit off my front lawn considered meta-data collection? --lyndon
Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Nick Khamis wrote: We are however trying to conform to RFC standards as pointed out by Jev. You guys really need to look at this. It's easily implementable: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 That remind me I need to finish my April 1 submission to the RFC editor for next year. This has been sitting in my todo pile for several years. RFC for publication on April 1, xxxx Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC) Abstract The memo provides an overview and principles regarding Lawful Intercept(LI) of networks using RFC 1149, "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers." National requirements are not addressed. Overview and Rational Avian Carriers have not provided law enforcement with advanced capabilities to conduct covert surveillance of a subject's communications. When approached by law enforcement, Avian Carriers take flight leaving behind difficult to decode droppings of their activities. Identifying a specific packet stream within a large flock of carriers is difficult. Due to the 3D ether space available to carriers and their intrinsic collision avoidance systems, although sometimes poorly implemented with windows, performing full content communications interceptions can be hit or miss. This memo does not address specific national requirements for eavesdropping. Nevertheless, it may be important to public safety that carriers never use any communication technology which could hinder law enforcement.s access to the communications of a subject of a lawful order authorizing surveillance. Avian Carriers have a long and distinguished history in communications. For thousands of years they have been used to carry important messages to military and business leaders. However, they have also been used for nefarious purposes ranging from possible financial market manipulation after Napoleo's defeat at Waterloo to reports of enemy pigeons operating in England during World War II.
