Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-11 Thread den...@justipit.com
Yes.  The industry is undergoing a shift from cloud or premise based ddos 
appliance to a hybrid model where some or all (premise gear and cloud 
scrubbing) of the solution is offered as a service.  Equipment vendors such as 
Radware  Arbor offer either directly or through partnerships also seeing the 
cloud scrubbing providers to offer premise gear.

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From: Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
To: James Braunegg james.braun...@micron21.com
Cc: nanog nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance
Date: Wed, Dec 10, 2014 11:39 PM

What about DDOS protection as a service? is that something that is being
offered by more than a few vendors? I know of only one that exists through
a friend.

They basically start advertising your bgp routes, filter out the junk, and
send the good traffic back to you.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM, James Braunegg james.braun...@micron21.com
 wrote:

 Dear All



 We use a combination of NSFOCUS hardware (ADS, ADS-m and NTA along with
 A10 Hardware)



 All of which I highly recommend !



 Kindest Regards


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 E:   james.braun...@micron21.commailto:james.braun...@micron21.com  |
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 We also evaluating another appliance to put in place of Arbor, their
 support outside USA its a joke.



 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Ammar Zuberi am...@fastreturn.net wrote:



  Hi,

 

  We're currently running the Arbor Peakflow SP with the TMS and it

  works very well for us.

 

  Best Regards,

 

  Ammar Zuberi

  FastReturn, Inc

 

 

 

 

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   On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Tony McKay

  tony.mc...@rittercommunications.com wrote:

  

   Does anyone on list currently use Peakflow SP from Arbor with TMS,

   and

  is it truly a carrier grade DDoS detection and mitigation platform?

  Anyone have any experience with Plixir?

  

   Tony McKay

   Dir. Of Network Operations

   Office:  870.336.3449

   Mobile:  870.243.0058

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   From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed

   Kamal

   Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 2:10 PM

   To: nanog

   Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

  

  

   Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than

   Arbor

  PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and

  redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the

  market which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS

  attack volume is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example

  50Gbps of clean traffic.

  

   Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that

   can

  do the same purpose, we have

Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-11 Thread den...@justipit.com
Yes.  The industry is undergoing a shift from cloud or premise based ddos 
appliance to a hybrid model where some or all (premise gear and cloud 
scrubbing) of the solution is offered as a service.  Equipment vendors such as 
Radware  Arbor offer either directly or through partnerships also seeing the 
cloud scrubbing providers to offer premise gear.

Sent from my Sprint phone.

- Reply message -
From: Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
To: James Braunegg james.braun...@micron21.com
Cc: nanog nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance
Date: Wed, Dec 10, 2014 11:39 PM

What about DDOS protection as a service? is that something that is being
offered by more than a few vendors? I know of only one that exists through
a friend.

They basically start advertising your bgp routes, filter out the junk, and
send the good traffic back to you.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM, James Braunegg james.braun...@micron21.com
 wrote:

 Dear All



 We use a combination of NSFOCUS hardware (ADS, ADS-m and NTA along with
 A10 Hardware)



 All of which I highly recommend !



 Kindest Regards


 James Braunegg
 P:  1300 769 972  |  M:  0488 997 207 |  D:  (03) 9751 7616
 E:   james.braun...@micron21.commailto:james.braun...@micron21.com  |
 ABN:  12 109 977 666
 W:  www.micron21.com/ddos-protection
 http://www.micron21.com/ddos-protection   T: @micron21


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 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of J. Tozo

 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 3:26 PM

 Cc: nanog

 Subject: Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance



 We also evaluating another appliance to put in place of Arbor, their
 support outside USA its a joke.



 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Ammar Zuberi am...@fastreturn.net wrote:



  Hi,

 

  We're currently running the Arbor Peakflow SP with the TMS and it

  works very well for us.

 

  Best Regards,

 

  Ammar Zuberi

  FastReturn, Inc

 

 

 

 

  Direct Line: +971 50 394 7299

  Email: am...@fastreturn.net

 

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   On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Tony McKay

  tony.mc...@rittercommunications.com wrote:

  

   Does anyone on list currently use Peakflow SP from Arbor with TMS,

   and

  is it truly a carrier grade DDoS detection and mitigation platform?

  Anyone have any experience with Plixir?

  

   Tony McKay

   Dir. Of Network Operations

   Office:  870.336.3449

   Mobile:  870.243.0058

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   From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed

   Kamal

   Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 2:10 PM

   To: nanog

   Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

  

  

   Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than

   Arbor

  PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and

  redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the

  market which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS

  attack volume is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example

  50Gbps of clean traffic.

  

   Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that

   can

  do the same purpose, we have

Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-10 Thread Javier J
What about DDOS protection as a service? is that something that is being
offered by more than a few vendors? I know of only one that exists through
a friend.

They basically start advertising your bgp routes, filter out the junk, and
send the good traffic back to you.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM, James Braunegg james.braun...@micron21.com
 wrote:

 Dear All



 We use a combination of NSFOCUS hardware (ADS, ADS-m and NTA along with
 A10 Hardware)



 All of which I highly recommend !



 Kindest Regards


 James Braunegg
 P:  1300 769 972  |  M:  0488 997 207 |  D:  (03) 9751 7616
 E:   james.braun...@micron21.commailto:james.braun...@micron21.com  |
 ABN:  12 109 977 666
 W:  www.micron21.com/ddos-protection
 http://www.micron21.com/ddos-protection   T: @micron21


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 Cc: nanog
 Subject: RE: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance



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 -Original Message-

 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of J. Tozo

 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 3:26 PM

 Cc: nanog

 Subject: Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance



 We also evaluating another appliance to put in place of Arbor, their
 support outside USA its a joke.



 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Ammar Zuberi am...@fastreturn.net wrote:



  Hi,

 

  We're currently running the Arbor Peakflow SP with the TMS and it

  works very well for us.

 

  Best Regards,

 

  Ammar Zuberi

  FastReturn, Inc

 

 

 

 

  Direct Line: +971 50 394 7299

  Email: am...@fastreturn.net

 

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   On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Tony McKay

  tony.mc...@rittercommunications.com wrote:

  

   Does anyone on list currently use Peakflow SP from Arbor with TMS,

   and

  is it truly a carrier grade DDoS detection and mitigation platform?

  Anyone have any experience with Plixir?

  

   Tony McKay

   Dir. Of Network Operations

   Office:  870.336.3449

   Mobile:  870.243.0058

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   -Original Message-

   From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed

   Kamal

   Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 2:10 PM

   To: nanog

   Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

  

  

   Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than

   Arbor

  PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and

  redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the

  market which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS

  attack volume is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example

  50Gbps of clean traffic.

  

   Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that

   can

  do the same purpose, we have network development team that can work on
 this.

  

   Thanks.

  

   --

   Mohamed Kamal

   Core Network Sr. Engineer

  

 

 





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Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-10 Thread Paul S.
Tons of such companies exist; BlackLotus/Staminus/Prolexic/Voxility to 
name a few within the US.


Service provided is usually based on proprietary algorithms that may or 
may not do what you want it to do, though.


On 12/11/2014 10:39 AM, Javier J wrote:

What about DDOS protection as a service? is that something that is being
offered by more than a few vendors? I know of only one that exists through
a friend.

They basically start advertising your bgp routes, filter out the junk, and
send the good traffic back to you.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM, James Braunegg james.braun...@micron21.com

wrote:
Dear All



We use a combination of NSFOCUS hardware (ADS, ADS-m and NTA along with
A10 Hardware)



All of which I highly recommend !



Kindest Regards


James Braunegg
P:  1300 769 972  |  M:  0488 997 207 |  D:  (03) 9751 7616
E:   james.braun...@micron21.commailto:james.braun...@micron21.com  |
ABN:  12 109 977 666
W:  www.micron21.com/ddos-protection
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Cc: nanog
Subject: RE: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance



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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of J. Tozo

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 3:26 PM

Cc: nanog

Subject: Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance



We also evaluating another appliance to put in place of Arbor, their
support outside USA its a joke.



On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Ammar Zuberi am...@fastreturn.net wrote:




Hi,
We're currently running the Arbor Peakflow SP with the TMS and it
works very well for us.
Best Regards,
Ammar Zuberi
FastReturn, Inc
Direct Line: +971 50 394 7299
Email: am...@fastreturn.net
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On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Tony McKay

tony.mc...@rittercommunications.com wrote:

Does anyone on list currently use Peakflow SP from Arbor with TMS,
and

is it truly a carrier grade DDoS detection and mitigation platform?
Anyone have any experience with Plixir?

Tony McKay
Dir. Of Network Operations
Office:  870.336.3449
Mobile:  870.243.0058
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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed
Kamal
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 2:10 PM
To: nanog
Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance
Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than
Arbor

PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and
redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the
market which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS
attack volume is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example
50Gbps of clean traffic.

Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that
can

do the same purpose, we have network development team that can work on

this.


Thanks.
--
Mohamed Kamal
Core Network Sr. Engineer





--

Grato,



Tozo





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RE: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-09 Thread Parrish, Luke
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-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of J. Tozo
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 3:26 PM
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

We also evaluating another appliance to put in place of Arbor, their support 
outside USA its a joke.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Ammar Zuberi am...@fastreturn.net wrote:

 Hi,

 We're currently running the Arbor Peakflow SP with the TMS and it
 works very well for us.

 Best Regards,

 Ammar Zuberi
 FastReturn, Inc




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  On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Tony McKay
 tony.mc...@rittercommunications.com wrote:
 
  Does anyone on list currently use Peakflow SP from Arbor with TMS,
  and
 is it truly a carrier grade DDoS detection and mitigation platform?
 Anyone have any experience with Plixir?
 
  Tony McKay
  Dir. Of Network Operations
  Office:  870.336.3449
  Mobile:  870.243.0058
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  cross
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  -Original Message-
  From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed
  Kamal
  Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 2:10 PM
  To: nanog
  Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance
 
 
  Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than
  Arbor
 PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and
 redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the
 market which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS
 attack volume is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example
 50Gbps of clean traffic.
 
  Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that
  can
 do the same purpose, we have network development team that can work on this.
 
  Thanks.
 
  --
  Mohamed Kamal
  Core Network Sr. Engineer
 




--
Grato,

 Tozo


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RE: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-08 Thread Tony McKay
Does anyone on list currently use Peakflow SP from Arbor with TMS, and is it 
truly a carrier grade DDoS detection and mitigation platform?  Anyone have any 
experience with Plixir?

Tony McKay
Dir. Of Network Operations
Office:  870.336.3449
Mobile:  870.243.0058
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Raise your limits by pushing them.

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-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed Kamal
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 2:10 PM
To: nanog
Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance


Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than Arbor 
PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and 
redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the market which 
offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS attack volume is, for 
example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example 50Gbps of clean traffic.

Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that can do the 
same purpose, we have network development team that can work on this.

Thanks.

--
Mohamed Kamal
Core Network Sr. Engineer



Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-08 Thread Ammar Zuberi
Hi,

We’re currently running the Arbor Peakflow SP with the TMS and it works very 
well for us.

Best Regards,

Ammar Zuberi
FastReturn, Inc




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 On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Tony McKay tony.mc...@rittercommunications.com 
 wrote:
 
 Does anyone on list currently use Peakflow SP from Arbor with TMS, and is it 
 truly a carrier grade DDoS detection and mitigation platform?  Anyone have 
 any experience with Plixir?
 
 Tony McKay
 Dir. Of Network Operations
 Office:  870.336.3449
 Mobile:  870.243.0058
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 Raise your limits by pushing them.
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed Kamal
 Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 2:10 PM
 To: nanog
 Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance
 
 
 Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than Arbor 
 PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and 
 redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the market 
 which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS attack volume 
 is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example 50Gbps of clean 
 traffic.
 
 Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that can do 
 the same purpose, we have network development team that can work on this.
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
 Mohamed Kamal
 Core Network Sr. Engineer
 



Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-08 Thread John Schiel


On 12/08/2014 11:53 AM, Tony McKay wrote:

Does anyone on list currently use Peakflow SP from Arbor with TMS, and is it 
truly a carrier grade DDoS detection and mitigation platform?  Anyone have any 
experience with Plixir?
Peakflow SP with the TMS works quite well. Can be very fast once a 
threat is discovered, depending on how you set up the mitigation. If you 
use auto mitigate and anycast BGP announcements, you can get a base 
mitigation going within seconds.


Although it works quite well, it can be a bit pricey. I've seen but not 
yet played with DefensePro from Radware. I thought they also had premise 
based unit like Arbor's Pravail but I can't be sure on that.


--John




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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed Kamal
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 2:10 PM
To: nanog
Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance


Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than Arbor PeakFlow TMS? I 
need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and redundancy, and as far as I know, 
Arbor is the only product in the market which offers a clean pipe volume of 
traffic, so if the DDoS attack volume is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for 
example 50Gbps of clean traffic.

Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that can do the 
same purpose, we have network development team that can work on this.

Thanks.

--
Mohamed Kamal
Core Network Sr. Engineer





Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-08 Thread J. Tozo
We also evaluating another appliance to put in place of Arbor, their
support outside USA its a joke.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Ammar Zuberi am...@fastreturn.net wrote:

 Hi,

 We're currently running the Arbor Peakflow SP with the TMS and it works
 very well for us.

 Best Regards,

 Ammar Zuberi
 FastReturn, Inc




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  On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Tony McKay
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  Does anyone on list currently use Peakflow SP from Arbor with TMS, and
 is it truly a carrier grade DDoS detection and mitigation platform?  Anyone
 have any experience with Plixir?
 
  Tony McKay
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  -Original Message-
  From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed Kamal
  Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 2:10 PM
  To: nanog
  Subject: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance
 
 
  Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than Arbor
 PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and
 redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the market
 which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS attack volume
 is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example 50Gbps of clean
 traffic.
 
  Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that can
 do the same purpose, we have network development team that can work on this.
 
  Thanks.
 
  --
  Mohamed Kamal
  Core Network Sr. Engineer
 




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Grato,

 Tozo


Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-07 Thread Mohamed Kamal


Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than Arbor 
PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and 
redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the 
market which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS 
attack volume is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example 
50Gbps of clean traffic.


Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that can 
do the same purpose, we have network development team that can work on this.


Thanks.

--
Mohamed Kamal
Core Network Sr. Engineer



Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-07 Thread Ammar Zuberi
Hi,

A lot of new vendors have entered the DDoS attack prevention market other than 
Arbor, I've seen carrier grade devices made by Huawei, NSFocus, RioRey and many 
others.

If you're looking at something software based, I've used Andrisoft WanGuard and 
would recommend it.

Ammar.

 On 8 Dec 2014, at 12:09 am, Mohamed Kamal mka...@noor.net wrote:
 
 
 Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than Arbor 
 PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and 
 redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the market 
 which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS attack volume 
 is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example 50Gbps of clean 
 traffic.
 
 Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that can do 
 the same purpose, we have network development team that can work on this.
 
 Thanks.
 
 -- 
 Mohamed Kamal
 Core Network Sr. Engineer
 


Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-07 Thread Jordan Medlen
I've heard good things about the A10 Networks appliances. I have not used them 
personally, but do use their ADC appliances and they do work well. 

Jordan Medlen
Network Engineer
Bisk Education

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 7, 2014, at 15:12, Mohamed Kamal mka...@noor.net wrote:
 
 
 Have anyone tried any DDoS attack mitigation appliance rather than Arbor 
 PeakFlow TMS? I need it to be carrier-grade in terms of capacity and 
 redundancy, and as far as I know, Arbor is the only product in the market 
 which offers a clean pipe volume of traffic, so if the DDoS attack volume 
 is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you for example 50Gbps of clean 
 traffic.
 
 Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, and open-source products that can do 
 the same purpose, we have network development team that can work on this.
 
 Thanks.
 
 -- 
 Mohamed Kamal
 Core Network Sr. Engineer
 
 


Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-07 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Mohamed Kamal
mka...@noor.net wrote:

so if the DDoS attack volume is, for example, 1Tbps, they will grant you
for example 50Gbps of clean traffic.

Please feel free to contact me off-list if I can assist, as it seems you've
been provided with incorrect information.


Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net