Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-23 Thread Mat Perkins
Yes! I've CCed my replies to ARIN compliance :)

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:46 AM Dovid Bender  wrote:

> Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again?
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Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-22 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 07:58:42AM -0500, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote:
> geeks@nanog works just fine 

Yes, it works just fine for *that* purpose.   However, *this* has a
different purpose:

Shining a light on ambulance chasers - Noction
https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2020-April/107054.html

---rsk


Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-22 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
geeks@nanog works just fine 

-- 
 J. Hellenthal

The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a 
lot about anticipated traffic volume.

> On Sep 22, 2020, at 07:53, Rich Kulawiec  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:30:24PM -0600, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
>> Is this simply being aggregated by a NANOG member / subscriber and thus
>> something unofficial?
> 
> That's exactly right.  Whether NANOG itself ever wants to do anything
> with the results is entirely up to them.
> 
> ---rsk


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Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-22 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:30:24PM -0600, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
> Is this simply being aggregated by a NANOG member / subscriber and thus
> something unofficial?

That's exactly right.  Whether NANOG itself ever wants to do anything
with the results is entirely up to them.

---rsk


Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-21 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG

On 9/21/20 11:03 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:

Reminder: forwarding these sorts of things (with full headers please) to:

nanog-spamm...@firemountain.net

will cause them to be compiled into a list.


Why not a nanog.org address?

Is this simply being aggregated by a NANOG member / subscriber and thus 
something unofficial?




--
Grant. . . .
unix || die



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Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-21 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:45:32PM -0400, Dovid Bender wrote:
> Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again?

Reminder: forwarding these sorts of things (with full headers please) to:

nanog-spamm...@firemountain.net

will cause them to be compiled into a list.

---rsk


Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-16 Thread Daniel Corbe
My reply to Cogent sales reps is usually something along the lines of
"We have a corporate policy of only taking connections from providers
that can give us a full Internet connection."

They get defensive when I point out that they have large holes in
their IPv6 routing table, but it usually gets them to go away for a
while.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 2:23 PM Ryan Wilkins  wrote:
>
> All I did was express interest a few years ago and ever since then they’ve 
> called and emailed me pretty regularly.  Just got one yesterday.  I’m 
> probably on the fourth sales guy now since I first asked.
>
> Ryan Wilkins
>
> > On Sep 14, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Jesse DuPont  
> > wrote:
> >
> > We started getting emails the moment we got our own AS (earlier this year).
>


Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-15 Thread admin
Yes yesterday, it's so annoying. I've already told them many times that I'm not interested.14. sep. 2020 17:45 skrev Dovid Bender :Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again?


Re: SPAM: Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread Tom Hill
On 14/09/2020 18:13, Simon Lockhart wrote:
> We gave in and just bought a small amount of transit from them.

Aha! You're the reason they don't stop! :p

-- 
Tom


Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread Randy Bush
i get 50 times as many emails bitching about cogent spam as i get cogent
spam.  and my spam filter is trained to take care of the latter.

randy


Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread Ryan Wilkins
All I did was express interest a few years ago and ever since then they’ve 
called and emailed me pretty regularly.  Just got one yesterday.  I’m probably 
on the fourth sales guy now since I first asked.

Ryan Wilkins

> On Sep 14, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Jesse DuPont  
> wrote:
> 
> We started getting emails the moment we got our own AS (earlier this year).



Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread Jesse DuPont

  
  
We started getting emails the moment we got our own AS (earlier this
year).

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont
Owner
  / Network
  Architect
  email:
  jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
  Celerity
  Networks LLC / Celerity
Broadband LLC
  Like us!
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On 9/14/20 11:13 AM, Dovid Bender
  wrote:


  
  The question is if they are back to contacting the
names on whois or they magically found our emails "another way"
and they have plausible deniability.
 
  
  
  
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 1:07
  PM David Guo <da...@xtom.com> wrote:


  

  Yes, every week
   
  Proof
   
  https://vip1.loli.net/2020/09/15/bq3lHGuvNRkW9YS.jpg
   
  
From: NANOG
  xtom@nanog.org> 
On Behalf Of Dovid Bender
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:46 AM
  To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
          Subject: Cogent emails
  
   
  
Is anyone starting to get the
      "cogent emails" again?

   


   

  

  

  


  



Re: SPAM: Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I manage three networks. All three have transit from Cogent. I get assaulted 
non-stop by Cogent sales reps. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Simon Lockhart"  
To: "David Guo"  
Cc: "NANOG"  
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 12:13:37 PM 
Subject: SPAM: Re: Cogent emails 

We gave in and just bought a small amount of transit from them. The sales 
emails stopped. Seems to be about the only effective method. 

Simon 

On Mon Sep 14, 2020 at 05:07:28PM +, David Guo via NANOG wrote: 
> Yes, every week 
> 
> Proof 
> 
> https://vip1.loli.net/2020/09/15/bq3lHGuvNRkW9YS.jpg 



Re: SPAM: Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread Mike Lyon
I tell them to hit me up once they have direct peering with HE.net.

Haven’t heard from them since.

-Mike

> On Sep 14, 2020, at 10:15, Simon Lockhart  wrote:
> 
> We gave in and just bought a small amount of transit from them. The sales 
> emails stopped. Seems to be about the only effective method.
> 
> Simon
> 
>> On Mon Sep 14, 2020 at 05:07:28PM +, David Guo via NANOG wrote:
>> Yes, every week
>> 
>> Proof
>> 
>> https://vip1.loli.net/2020/09/15/bq3lHGuvNRkW9YS.jpg


Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread Dovid Bender
The question is if they are back to contacting the names on whois or they
magically found our emails "another way" and they have plausible
deniability.


On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM David Guo  wrote:

> Yes, every week
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> Proof
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> https://vip1.loli.net/2020/09/15/bq3lHGuvNRkW9YS.jpg
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> *From:* NANOG  * On Behalf Of *Dovid
> Bender
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:46 AM
> *To:* NANOG 
> *Subject:* Cogent emails
>
>
>
> Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again?
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SPAM: Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread Simon Lockhart
We gave in and just bought a small amount of transit from them. The sales 
emails stopped. Seems to be about the only effective method.

Simon

On Mon Sep 14, 2020 at 05:07:28PM +, David Guo via NANOG wrote:
> Yes, every week
> 
> Proof
> 
> https://vip1.loli.net/2020/09/15/bq3lHGuvNRkW9YS.jpg


RE: Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread David Guo via NANOG
Yes, every week

Proof

https://vip1.loli.net/2020/09/15/bq3lHGuvNRkW9YS.jpg

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Dovid Bender
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:46 AM
To: NANOG 
Subject: Cogent emails

Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again?




Cogent emails

2020-09-14 Thread Dovid Bender
Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again?