Re: Comcast/Level3 issues

2014-01-06 Thread Paul WALL
Kevin,

Thank you for the info.  Can you say how many quarters or years until
Comcast is resolved?

I've seen references to that obscure whitepaper (co-authored,
ironically, by Patrick Gilmore) before on the broadbandreports forums,
by someone with a lot of knowledge on Comcast's network and internal
politics/peering discussions.  Do you know who the poster is?

https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=28619103+dslreports+site:www.dslreports.combiw=1000bih=1000

Drive Slow,
Paul WALL

On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:17 PM, McElearney, Kevin
kevin_mcelear...@cable.comcast.com wrote:
 FWIW, we work with each issue and try to fix them as best we can.  Several
 are underway.  Much of the ³traffic shifting² is happening external to
 Comcast with very large traffic swings congesting AND uncongesting paths.
 The beauty of adaptive routing via CDN and text book ³Creating Incentives
 to Peer² - feel free to google that...

 - Kevin

 On 1/5/14, 1:22 AM, Paul WALL pauldotw...@gmail.com wrote:

The people pushing this policy are not without a face and name.  They read
this mailing list, and attend our conferences.  You'll want to talk to
John
Schanz, Kevin McElearney, and Barry Tishgart.

Drive Slow (like a Comcast peering port),
Paul Wall


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Scott Berkman sc...@sberkman.net wrote:

 Comcast having saturated links to other providers is a common and
 frequently discussed issue.  Here is one previous NANOG thread on the
topic:

 http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2010-December/029251.html

 And a related article:
 http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Claims-Resurface-
 Concerning-Congested-Comcast-TATA-Links-111818

 There are debates back and forth on the validity of the graphs from the
 NANOG post, but it is a fact that at that time Comcast was heavily
 pre-pending their Level BGP advertisements to force traffic over to
Tata,
 and many many people noticed congestion at those links in a variety of
 markets.

 I wish you luck, but my personal opinion is that your fastest resolution
 would be to move to another provider.  Comcast is a residential ISP that
 lives on extreme over-subscription and not actually being able to
deliver
 what customers believe they have. You'll notice a lot of recent news
about
 increased and more strict data caps for their subscribers, and that is
the
 only thing they will likely be doing to relieve these types of recurring
 issues.

   -Scott



 On 01/02/2014 11:18 PM, R W wrote:

 I'm seeing the same as well. Can anyone from Comcast/Level(3) reach out
 to me or provide comment. We're seeing heavy jitter and some packet
loss
 most noticeable in NYC area connections between Level(3) and Comcast.
 -Rob

  Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:45:00 -0800
 Subject: Comcast/Level3 issues
 From: dwh...@gmail.com
 To: nanog@nanog.org

 Looking for a networking contact at comcast and/or level3.  I've been
 having some slow speed issues with hitting some sites that's going
 through
 level3 and I think there might be some congestion.

 Doug









Re: Comcast/Level3 issues

2014-01-06 Thread McElearney, Kevin
³Paul²,

I don¹t read this list often, and rarely have seen a private message
reposted as you did, but at the risk of DFTT, give me some time to think
through a discussion topic for this list which touches on some of these
issues.

- Kevin

DISCLOSURE: On DSLR, I am ccneteng when I visit there.
http://www.dslreports.com/profile?find=ccneteng





Re: Comcast/Level3 issues

2014-01-04 Thread Paul WALL
The people pushing this policy are not without a face and name.  They read
this mailing list, and attend our conferences.  You'll want to talk to John
Schanz, Kevin McElearney, and Barry Tishgart.

Drive Slow (like a Comcast peering port),
Paul Wall


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Scott Berkman sc...@sberkman.net wrote:

 Comcast having saturated links to other providers is a common and
 frequently discussed issue.  Here is one previous NANOG thread on the topic:

 http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2010-December/029251.html

 And a related article:
 http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Claims-Resurface-
 Concerning-Congested-Comcast-TATA-Links-111818

 There are debates back and forth on the validity of the graphs from the
 NANOG post, but it is a fact that at that time Comcast was heavily
 pre-pending their Level BGP advertisements to force traffic over to Tata,
 and many many people noticed congestion at those links in a variety of
 markets.

 I wish you luck, but my personal opinion is that your fastest resolution
 would be to move to another provider.  Comcast is a residential ISP that
 lives on extreme over-subscription and not actually being able to deliver
 what customers believe they have. You'll notice a lot of recent news about
 increased and more strict data caps for their subscribers, and that is the
 only thing they will likely be doing to relieve these types of recurring
 issues.

   -Scott



 On 01/02/2014 11:18 PM, R W wrote:

 I'm seeing the same as well. Can anyone from Comcast/Level(3) reach out
 to me or provide comment. We're seeing heavy jitter and some packet loss
 most noticeable in NYC area connections between Level(3) and Comcast.
 -Rob

  Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:45:00 -0800
 Subject: Comcast/Level3 issues
 From: dwh...@gmail.com
 To: nanog@nanog.org

 Looking for a networking contact at comcast and/or level3.  I've been
 having some slow speed issues with hitting some sites that's going
 through
 level3 and I think there might be some congestion.

 Doug







Re: Comcast/Level3 issues

2014-01-03 Thread Scott Berkman
Comcast having saturated links to other providers is a common and 
frequently discussed issue.  Here is one previous NANOG thread on the topic:


http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2010-December/029251.html

And a related article:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Claims-Resurface-Concerning-Congested-Comcast-TATA-Links-111818

There are debates back and forth on the validity of the graphs from the 
NANOG post, but it is a fact that at that time Comcast was heavily 
pre-pending their Level BGP advertisements to force traffic over to 
Tata, and many many people noticed congestion at those links in a 
variety of markets.


I wish you luck, but my personal opinion is that your fastest resolution 
would be to move to another provider.  Comcast is a residential ISP that 
lives on extreme over-subscription and not actually being able to 
deliver what customers believe they have. You'll notice a lot of recent 
news about increased and more strict data caps for their subscribers, 
and that is the only thing they will likely be doing to relieve these 
types of recurring issues.


  -Scott


On 01/02/2014 11:18 PM, R W wrote:

I'm seeing the same as well. Can anyone from Comcast/Level(3) reach out to me 
or provide comment. We're seeing heavy jitter and some packet loss most 
noticeable in NYC area connections between Level(3) and Comcast.
-Rob


Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:45:00 -0800
Subject: Comcast/Level3 issues
From: dwh...@gmail.com
To: nanog@nanog.org

Looking for a networking contact at comcast and/or level3.  I've been
having some slow speed issues with hitting some sites that's going through
level3 and I think there might be some congestion.

Doug






RE: Comcast/Level3 issues

2014-01-02 Thread R W
I'm seeing the same as well. Can anyone from Comcast/Level(3) reach out to me 
or provide comment. We're seeing heavy jitter and some packet loss most 
noticeable in NYC area connections between Level(3) and Comcast.
-Rob

 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:45:00 -0800
 Subject: Comcast/Level3 issues
 From: dwh...@gmail.com
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 
 Looking for a networking contact at comcast and/or level3.  I've been
 having some slow speed issues with hitting some sites that's going through
 level3 and I think there might be some congestion.
 
 Doug
  

Comcast/Level3 issues

2014-01-01 Thread Douglas Wheet
Looking for a networking contact at comcast and/or level3.  I've been
having some slow speed issues with hitting some sites that's going through
level3 and I think there might be some congestion.

Doug