Re: DDoS Attack in Progress.

2008-10-11 Thread Steve Linford

On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:46, Beavis wrote:


Hi All,

  DoS attack in progress, any upstream info for these guys? their
phone number doesn't respond.

inetnum: 88.247.0.0 - 88.247.79.255
netname: TurkTelekom
descr:   TT ADSL-alcatel static_ulus
country: tr


The Spamhaus folk on this list have the address of TurkTelekom's  
chief security/abuse guy who would take take of this, but we would  
not be inclined to give his address to someone identifying themselves  
as Beavis with a gmail address. Can you elaborate on who you are,  
what's being DoSsed (a router, an http server, a mail server?), and  
whether you can ACL the source (since you know the source is in  
88.247.0.0/17, why not ACL the source at your router or at whatever  
device is being DoSsed).


  Steve Linford
  The Spamhaus Project
  http://www.spamhaus.org





Re: DDoS Attack in Progress.

2008-10-11 Thread Beavis
Sorry for the anonymity part Steve This is the only one email i got
that is added to the NANOG List.


John Lopez
NOC Manager
Constructora Pura Vida
(506)243-018-35 Ext. 2901





On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Steve Linford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:46, Beavis wrote:

 Hi All,

  DoS attack in progress, any upstream info for these guys? their
 phone number doesn't respond.

 inetnum: 88.247.0.0 - 88.247.79.255
 netname: TurkTelekom
 descr:   TT ADSL-alcatel static_ulus
 country: tr

 The Spamhaus folk on this list have the address of TurkTelekom's chief
 security/abuse guy who would take take of this, but we would not be inclined
 to give his address to someone identifying themselves as Beavis with a
 gmail address. Can you elaborate on who you are, what's being DoSsed (a
 router, an http server, a mail server?), and whether you can ACL the source
 (since you know the source is in 88.247.0.0/17, why not ACL the source at
 your router or at whatever device is being DoSsed).

  Steve Linford
  The Spamhaus Project
  http://www.spamhaus.org







Re: DDoS Attack in Progress.

2008-10-11 Thread Steve Church
Beavis aka John Lopez:
I, for one, am glad you're interested in stopping the abuse at its source.
Thank you.

Steve Linford:
 why not ACL the source at your router or at whatever device is being
(packeted).
Mr. Lopez is contributing to the welfare of the net as a whole by addressing
the cause, rather than applying a bandage locally to lessen the symptom.  I
sincerely hope your dismissive advice is not characteristic of Spamhaus
policy regarding abused hosts, considering the mission statement at the top
of your homepage.

Steve Church


On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Steve Linford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:46, Beavis wrote:

  Hi All,

  DoS attack in progress, any upstream info for these guys? their
 phone number doesn't respond.

 inetnum: 88.247.0.0 - 88.247.79.255
 netname: TurkTelekom
 descr:   TT ADSL-alcatel static_ulus
 country: tr


 The Spamhaus folk on this list have the address of TurkTelekom's chief
 security/abuse guy who would take take of this, but we would not be inclined
 to give his address to someone identifying themselves as Beavis with a
 gmail address. Can you elaborate on who you are, what's being DoSsed (a
 router, an http server, a mail server?), and whether you can ACL the source
 (since you know the source is in 88.247.0.0/17, why not ACL the source at
 your router or at whatever device is being DoSsed).

  Steve Linford
  The Spamhaus Project
  http://www.spamhaus.org






Re: DDoS Attack in Progress.

2008-10-11 Thread Steve Linford

On 11 Oct 2008, at 16:22, Steve Church wrote:


Beavis aka John Lopez:
I, for one, am glad you're interested in stopping the abuse at its  
source.

Thank you.

Steve Linford:

why not ACL the source at your router or at whatever device is being

(packeted).
Mr. Lopez is contributing to the welfare of the net as a whole by  
addressing
the cause, rather than applying a bandage locally to lessen the  
symptom.  I
sincerely hope your dismissive advice is not characteristic of  
Spamhaus
policy regarding abused hosts, considering the mission statement at  
the top

of your homepage.

Steve Church


OK, you don't know much about Spamhaus. Dealing with network abuse  
issues is what we do 24/7. John Lopez contacted my privately and I've  
given him the address of TurkTelekom's security guy, but the reality  
of things is that today is a Saturday and tomorrow is a Sunday,  
unless TurkTelekom's guy is working weekends (unlikely) ACL'ing the  
source is not just an advisable option but is probably until Monday  
the only option.


  Steve Linford
  The Spamhaus Project
  http://www.spamhaus.org







Re: DDoS Attack in Progress.

2008-10-11 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Steve Church wrote:
 Beavis aka John Lopez:
 I, for one, am glad you're interested in stopping the abuse at its source.
 Thank you.

 Steve Linford:
   
 why not ACL the source at your router or at whatever device is being
 
 (packeted).
 Mr. Lopez is contributing to the welfare of the net as a whole by addressing
 the cause, rather than applying a bandage locally to lessen the symptom.  I
 sincerely hope your dismissive advice is not characteristic of Spamhaus
 policy regarding abused hosts, considering the mission statement at the top
 of your homepage.

 Steve Church
Come on, even I think Steve Linford's bonafides are strong enough that
this was uncalled for.

Andrew



Re: DDoS Attack in Progress.

2008-10-11 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Steve Church [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mr. Lopez is contributing to the welfare of the net as a whole by addressing
 the cause, rather than applying a bandage locally to lessen the symptom.  I
 sincerely hope your dismissive advice is not characteristic of Spamhaus
 policy regarding abused hosts, considering the mission statement at the top
 of your homepage.

Let's put it this way.  Contacts given in confidence arent meant to be
shared randomly.  Or to people who dont identify themselves and post
using freemail addresses.  Linford seems to have shared this contact
offlist with the guy, after he identified himelf, so case closed.

srs

-- 
Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



DDoS Attack in Progress.

2008-10-10 Thread Beavis
Hi All,

  DoS attack in progress, any upstream info for these guys? their
phone number doesn't respond.

 This is the RIPE Whois query server #1.
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% Information related to '88.247.0.0 - 88.247.79.255'

inetnum: 88.247.0.0 - 88.247.79.255
netname: TurkTelekom
descr:   TT ADSL-alcatel static_ulus
country: tr
admin-c: TTBA1-RIPE
tech-c:  TTBA1-RIPE
status:  ASSIGNED PA status: definitions
mnt-by:  as9121-mnt
source:  RIPE # Filtered

role:TT Administrative Contact Role
address: Turk Telekom
address: Bilisim Aglari Dairesi
address: Aydinlikevler
address: 06103 ANKARA
phone:   +90 312 313 1950
fax-no:  +90 312 313 1949
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin-c: BADB3-RIPE
tech-c:  ZA66-RIPE
tech-c:  NO638-RIPE
tech-c:  SO351-RIPE
nic-hdl: TTBA1-RIPE
mnt-by:  AS9121-MNT
source:  RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '88.247.0.0/17AS9121'

route:   88.247.0.0/17
descr:   TurkTelecom
origin:  AS9121
mnt-by:  AS9121-MNT
source:  RIPE # Filtered



Re: DDoS Attack in Progress.

2008-10-10 Thread Paul Ferguson
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Not surprising -- TurkTelekom has long been known to be a hotbed of
malicious activity, a known hoster for Russian/Ukrainian cyber criminals,
and perhaps one of the most botnetted ISPs on  the planet:

http://itw.trendmicro-europe.com/index.php?id=64

- - ferg


On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Beavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

  DoS attack in progress, any upstream info for these guys? their
 phone number doesn't respond.

  This is the RIPE Whois query server #1.
 % The objects are in RPSL format.
 %
 % Rights restricted by copyright.
 % See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html

 % Note: This output has been filtered.
 %   To receive output for a database update, use the -B flag.

 % Information related to '88.247.0.0 - 88.247.79.255'

 inetnum: 88.247.0.0 - 88.247.79.255
 netname: TurkTelekom
 descr:   TT ADSL-alcatel static_ulus
 country: tr
 admin-c: TTBA1-RIPE
 tech-c:  TTBA1-RIPE
 status:  ASSIGNED PA status: definitions
 mnt-by:  as9121-mnt
 source:  RIPE # Filtered

 role:TT Administrative Contact Role
 address: Turk Telekom
 address: Bilisim Aglari Dairesi
 address: Aydinlikevler
 address: 06103 ANKARA
 phone:   +90 312 313 1950
 fax-no:  +90 312 313 1949
 e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 admin-c: BADB3-RIPE
 tech-c:  ZA66-RIPE
 tech-c:  NO638-RIPE
 tech-c:  SO351-RIPE
 nic-hdl: TTBA1-RIPE
 mnt-by:  AS9121-MNT
 source:  RIPE # Filtered

 % Information related to '88.247.0.0/17AS9121'

 route:   88.247.0.0/17
 descr:   TurkTelecom
 origin:  AS9121
 mnt-by:  AS9121-MNT
 source:  RIPE # Filtered



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-- 
Fergie, a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawgster(at)gmail.com
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/



Re: DDoS Attack in Progress.

2008-10-10 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Try,

NOC ITMC/NOC +902125209898  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mehmet



From: Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:55:41 -0700
To: Beavis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: DDoS Attack in Progress.

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Not surprising -- TurkTelekom has long been known to be a hotbed of
malicious activity, a known hoster for Russian/Ukrainian cyber criminals,
and perhaps one of the most botnetted ISPs on  the planet:

http://itw.trendmicro-europe.com/index.php?id=64

- - ferg


On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Beavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

  DoS attack in progress, any upstream info for these guys? their
 phone number doesn't respond.

  This is the RIPE Whois query server #1.
 % The objects are in RPSL format.
 %
 % Rights restricted by copyright.
 % See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html

 % Note: This output has been filtered.
 %   To receive output for a database update, use the -B flag.

 % Information related to '88.247.0.0 - 88.247.79.255'

 inetnum: 88.247.0.0 - 88.247.79.255
 netname: TurkTelekom
 descr:   TT ADSL-alcatel static_ulus
 country: tr
 admin-c: TTBA1-RIPE
 tech-c:  TTBA1-RIPE
 status:  ASSIGNED PA status: definitions
 mnt-by:  as9121-mnt
 source:  RIPE # Filtered

 role:TT Administrative Contact Role
 address: Turk Telekom
 address: Bilisim Aglari Dairesi
 address: Aydinlikevler
 address: 06103 ANKARA
 phone:   +90 312 313 1950
 fax-no:  +90 312 313 1949
 e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 admin-c: BADB3-RIPE
 tech-c:  ZA66-RIPE
 tech-c:  NO638-RIPE
 tech-c:  SO351-RIPE
 nic-hdl: TTBA1-RIPE
 mnt-by:  AS9121-MNT
 source:  RIPE # Filtered

 % Information related to '88.247.0.0/17AS9121'

 route:   88.247.0.0/17
 descr:   TurkTelecom
 origin:  AS9121
 mnt-by:  AS9121-MNT
 source:  RIPE # Filtered



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--
Fergie, a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
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 fergdawgster(at)gmail.com
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/





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