Re: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet/Transit service

2010-01-08 Thread Bill Blackford
I've found them to be quite sufficient here in the PDX metro area. They
support all L2 tunnels, in particular, QnQ which I require. We have diverse
paths, multiple strands and multi-colored. We are a bit of a special case as
we are serviced by a group that is intended for government and education
which gives us pricing breaks. The commercial shots I have out to meet-me
POPs are priced diffrently. Their CPE devices are migrating to Cisco ME3400,
etc. devices. Their tiered pricing is based on link speed which I'm not
necessarily pleased with but they're starting to become more flexible. They
aren't currently honoring our P-tags so our locations that may be
oversubscribed have difficulty with priority queueing. Their new core in our
area is a single C 7.6k. I would rather they moved from their older F Big
Iron to a J MX or C GSR, but I'm sure the group that services us is faced
with limited resources (ref pricing breaks earlier). The customer portal
provides custom/customer views on their Orion instance which I find even
more useful than my own Cacti graphs at times. The engineering staff is very
accesible (again our group is unique). I'd like to see them put gear in more
colos and hotels. Their uptime and reliability from my perspective has been
right on target.

-b

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Brent Jones br...@servuhome.net wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Brandon Galbraith
 brandon.galbra...@gmail.com wrote:
  We're looking at using Comcast's (business) transit and private ethernet
  services at several client locations and I wanted to see what experiences
  others have had regarding this. Off-list replies are preferred.
 
  Thanks,
  -brandon
 
  --
  Brandon Galbraith
  Mobile: 630.400.6992
 

 This was a timely question, as we've have a GigE fiber line with them
 for 6 months now.
 Largely, the link performs at ~999Mbit 99% of the time  :)
 However, we've had two issues with connectivity that seem to originate
 from their network. The link will show up, but both sides of our fiber
 will show 0 frames received, and lots of transmit errors. It takes a
 call into the Comcast NOC each time for them to resolve it, but
 they've been silent on what may actually be going on. These
 interruptions last anywhere from 30 minutes, to the last one almost 7
 hours (luckily over a weekend).

 Benefits to this, being Metro Ethernet, they do support tagged VLAN's,
 so cost to entry is low in terms of equipment and setup/support.

 Our link goes between downtown Portland, OR, to across the river to
 East Vancouver and Mill Plain.

 --
 Brent Jones
 br...@servuhome.net




-- 
Bill Blackford
Network Engineer


RE: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet/Transit service

2010-01-04 Thread Antonio Querubin

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Holmes,David A wrote:

I do not know of Comcast's Ethernet services specifically, but a general 
problem with carrier Ethernet services that are based upon the Metro 
Ethernet Forum (MEF) is that PIM-snooping is not implemented for 
multicast traffic. The absence of PIM-snooping results in the carrier's 
Ethernet service operating like a 1990's style Ethernet hub in which 
(S,G) multicast packets are incorrectly flooded out all user ports.


Not implemented because it's not in the MEF specs or not implemented 
because of carrier operational practice?


Antonio Querubin
808-545-5282 x3003
e-mail/xmpp:  t...@lava.net



RE: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet/Transit service

2010-01-04 Thread Holmes,David A
PIM-snooping is not in the MEF specs, but should be if multicast is to
work properly over a carrier's Ethernet service. Regardless of the
specs, RFPs and other user requirements for Ethernet services should
include a must have clause requiring PIM-snooping functionality. 

-Original Message-
From: Antonio Querubin [mailto:t...@lava.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:13 PM
To: Holmes,David A
Cc: Brandon Galbraith; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet/Transit service

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Holmes,David A wrote:

 I do not know of Comcast's Ethernet services specifically, but a
general 
 problem with carrier Ethernet services that are based upon the Metro 
 Ethernet Forum (MEF) is that PIM-snooping is not implemented for 
 multicast traffic. The absence of PIM-snooping results in the
carrier's 
 Ethernet service operating like a 1990's style Ethernet hub in which 
 (S,G) multicast packets are incorrectly flooded out all user ports.

Not implemented because it's not in the MEF specs or not implemented 
because of carrier operational practice?

Antonio Querubin
808-545-5282 x3003
e-mail/xmpp:  t...@lava.net



Re: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet/Transit service

2010-01-04 Thread Jared Mauch
The Deathstar opt-e-man service says they will knee-cap you at 1Mb/s of 
multicast.

- Jared

On Jan 4, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Holmes,David A wrote:

 PIM-snooping is not in the MEF specs, but should be if multicast is to
 work properly over a carrier's Ethernet service. Regardless of the
 specs, RFPs and other user requirements for Ethernet services should
 include a must have clause requiring PIM-snooping functionality. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Antonio Querubin [mailto:t...@lava.net] 
 Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:13 PM
 To: Holmes,David A
 Cc: Brandon Galbraith; nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: RE: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet/Transit service
 
 On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Holmes,David A wrote:
 
 I do not know of Comcast's Ethernet services specifically, but a
 general 
 problem with carrier Ethernet services that are based upon the Metro 
 Ethernet Forum (MEF) is that PIM-snooping is not implemented for 
 multicast traffic. The absence of PIM-snooping results in the
 carrier's 
 Ethernet service operating like a 1990's style Ethernet hub in which 
 (S,G) multicast packets are incorrectly flooded out all user ports.
 
 Not implemented because it's not in the MEF specs or not implemented 
 because of carrier operational practice?
 
 Antonio Querubin
 808-545-5282 x3003
 e-mail/xmpp:  t...@lava.net




Experiences with Comcast Ethernet/Transit service

2009-12-23 Thread Brandon Galbraith
We're looking at using Comcast's (business) transit and private ethernet
services at several client locations and I wanted to see what experiences
others have had regarding this. Off-list replies are preferred.

Thanks,
-brandon

-- 
Brandon Galbraith
Mobile: 630.400.6992