Re: FCC workshop: Security vulnerabilities within our communications networks

2019-06-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 6/26/19 2:17 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
> 
> --- s...@donelan.com wrote:
> From: Sean Donelan 
> 
> If they come up with a better idea, that's great.  I'll 
> take good ideas  from anywere.

In my experience, "design by committee" is most successful when one or
two people take the bull by the horns and flesh out a solution, and the
rest of the bunch nod their heads and say, "Huzza".


Re: FCC workshop: Security vulnerabilities within our communications networks

2019-06-26 Thread Scott Weeks



--- s...@donelan.com wrote:
From: Sean Donelan 

If they come up with a better idea, that's great.  I'll 
take good ideas  from anywere.



FCC.  gov't.  Design by committee.  

Never seen good design come out of these, but like Chris 
said, maybe today's the day...   

;-)
scott






Re: FCC workshop: Security vulnerabilities within our communications networks

2019-06-26 Thread C. A. Fillekes
NANOG:  Come for the network info!  Stay for the dry humor!

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 3:28 PM j k  wrote:

> Not bad, only took 15 years.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 6:29 PM Christopher Morrow 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 1:17 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, 25 Jun 2019, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> > > looks like our best and brightest have the problem resolved, phew!
>> > > we're all safe now.
>> >
>> > The success rate of most groups has been low in this area, so I' willing
>> > let new groups try.
>> >
>> > I mostly just to keep an eye on new groups in case they do stupid
>> things.
>> >
>> > If they come up with a better idea, that's great.  I'll take good ideas
>> > from anywere.
>>
>> sure, good ideas would be nice.
>> I'm skeptical of the panel's members being able to actually do that in
>> this (and really many) case.
>>
>> who knows, maybe today is the day! :)
>>
>


Re: FCC workshop: Security vulnerabilities within our communications networks

2019-06-26 Thread j k
Not bad, only took 15 years.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 6:29 PM Christopher Morrow 
wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 1:17 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 25 Jun 2019, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > > looks like our best and brightest have the problem resolved, phew!
> > > we're all safe now.
> >
> > The success rate of most groups has been low in this area, so I' willing
> > let new groups try.
> >
> > I mostly just to keep an eye on new groups in case they do stupid things.
> >
> > If they come up with a better idea, that's great.  I'll take good ideas
> > from anywere.
>
> sure, good ideas would be nice.
> I'm skeptical of the panel's members being able to actually do that in
> this (and really many) case.
>
> who knows, maybe today is the day! :)
>


Re: FCC workshop: Security vulnerabilities within our communications networks

2019-06-26 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 1:17 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > looks like our best and brightest have the problem resolved, phew!
> > we're all safe now.
>
> The success rate of most groups has been low in this area, so I' willing
> let new groups try.
>
> I mostly just to keep an eye on new groups in case they do stupid things.
>
> If they come up with a better idea, that's great.  I'll take good ideas
> from anywere.

sure, good ideas would be nice.
I'm skeptical of the panel's members being able to actually do that in
this (and really many) case.

who knows, maybe today is the day! :)


Re: FCC workshop: Security vulnerabilities within our communications networks

2019-06-26 Thread Sean Donelan

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019, Christopher Morrow wrote:

looks like our best and brightest have the problem resolved, phew!
we're all safe now.


The success rate of most groups has been low in this area, so I' willing 
let new groups try.


I mostly just to keep an eye on new groups in case they do stupid things.

If they come up with a better idea, that's great.  I'll take good ideas 
from anywere.





Re: FCC workshop: Security vulnerabilities within our communications networks

2019-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
looks like our best and brightest have the problem resolved, phew!
we're all safe now.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 5:26 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019, Sean Donelan wrote:
> > Federal Communications Commissioner Geoffrey Starks is holding a workshop
> > next week, June 27, 2019, to hear from interested parties on how to address
> > the national security threats posed by insecure equipment within our
> > communications networks.
>
> The agenda for the FCC network security workshop has been published.
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/commissioner-starks-releases-agenda-network-security-workshop
>


Re: FCC workshop: Security vulnerabilities within our communications networks

2019-06-25 Thread Sean Donelan

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019, Sean Donelan wrote:
Federal Communications Commissioner Geoffrey Starks is holding a workshop 
next week, June 27, 2019, to hear from interested parties on how to address 
the national security threats posed by insecure equipment within our 
communications networks.


The agenda for the FCC network security workshop has been published.

https://www.fcc.gov/document/commissioner-starks-releases-agenda-network-security-workshop



FCC workshop: Security vulnerabilities within our communications networks

2019-06-21 Thread Sean Donelan



Federal Communications Commissioner Geoffrey Starks is holding a workshop 
next week, June 27, 2019, to hear from interested parties on how to 
address the national security threats posed by insecure equipment 
within our communications networks.


https://www.fcc.gov/document/commr-starks-announces-june-27-public-workshop-network-security

Panel 1: Find It – The Scope of the Problem
This panel will focus on how to identify which equipment poses a threat 
and where it is located.


Panel 2: Fix It – How to Ensure that Networks are Secure
This panel will consider options for fixing identified security problems, 
including discussion of what equipment needs to be fixed, whether 
replacing equipment is the best approach, or whether monitoring or other 
measures can be part of the solution.


Panel 3: Fund It – National Problems Require National Solutions
This panel will address questions regarding funding, including the amount 
required for equipment replacement and threat mitigation, pote