Re: Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources
Agreed, however over the next 50 to 100 years you might see a big migration North as temperature continue rising and continuous shipping via the Northern passage. The Quintillion cable is really being built to link Asia and Europe via an ultra low latency path. Attaching fiber spurs to those Northern Communities is a way of getting Canadian government support and money. From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of nanog-...@mail.com <nanog-...@mail.com> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:50 AM To: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources There are a lot more cows than people with money in rural/remote areas. Getting fiber to remote unserved areas is not a technical problem, it's a money/political problem. On a good day, deploying 400 km of fiber costs in the ballpark of $10M. To that you then have to add the recurring costs of operations, maintenance and fees for the use of the right of way. If the community can pay for that, all is good and well, just have at it. If not, somebody has to subsidize it and then it becomes a political problem. Jared From: NANOG on behalf of Alain Hebert Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:05 PM To: nanog at nanog.org Subject: Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources Warning: For just plain curiosity at the moment. I was looking for publicly accessible feasibility studies, white papers, etc, about long distance fiber deployment. (> 400km, aka >250 miles) The interest comes from documenting myself about how poorly deserved are the northern communities in Canada. And how "freakn a shame it is to get pwned" by France telecom wise =D. At this point my Goolge Fu is hardly getting thru the pointless clutter search engines accumulated over the years... From the numerous input so far: A lot of the attempts where made to use facilities like rail or electrical grid distribution, but it always ended squashed by a massive push back from the telecom industries, and in one case, maybe the FMI. I'm thinking: If people can invest millions into DOTCOM that put fitbits on cows... There must be a way to help those communities. And ourself, from under the telecom giants. Thanks. - Alain Hebertahebert at pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 PubNIX Inc. – Branché sur le monde – Connected to the World<http://www.pubnix.net/> www.pubnix.net PubNIX is a boutique Internet service provider with personalized service that offers you an alternative to "Big Telco". At PubNIX, we are committed to providing you ... PubNIX Inc. – Branché sur le monde – Connected to the World<http://www.pubnix.net/> PubNIX Inc. – Branché sur le monde – Connected to the World<http://www.pubnix.net/> www.pubnix.net PubNIX is a boutique Internet service provider with personalized service that offers you an alternative to "Big Telco". At PubNIX, we are committed to providing you ... www.pubnix.net<http://www.pubnix.net> PubNIX Inc. – Branché sur le monde – Connected to the World<http://www.pubnix.net/> www.pubnix.net PubNIX is a boutique Internet service provider with personalized service that offers you an alternative to "Big Telco". At PubNIX, we are committed to providing you ... PubNIX is a boutique Internet service provider with personalized service that offers you an alternative to "Big Telco". At PubNIX, we are committed to providing you
Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources
There are a lot more cows than people with money in rural/remote areas. Getting fiber to remote unserved areas is not a technical problem, it's a money/political problem. On a good day, deploying 400 km of fiber costs in the ballpark of $10M. To that you then have to add the recurring costs of operations, maintenance and fees for the use of the right of way. If the community can pay for that, all is good and well, just have at it. If not, somebody has to subsidize it and then it becomes a political problem. Jared From: NANOG on behalf of Alain Hebert Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:05 PM To: nanog at nanog.org Subject: Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources Warning: For just plain curiosity at the moment. I was looking for publicly accessible feasibility studies, white papers, etc, about long distance fiber deployment. (> 400km, aka >250 miles) The interest comes from documenting myself about how poorly deserved are the northern communities in Canada. And how "freakn a shame it is to get pwned" by France telecom wise =D. At this point my Goolge Fu is hardly getting thru the pointless clutter search engines accumulated over the years... From the numerous input so far: A lot of the attempts where made to use facilities like rail or electrical grid distribution, but it always ended squashed by a massive push back from the telecom industries, and in one case, maybe the FMI. I'm thinking: If people can invest millions into DOTCOM that put fitbits on cows... There must be a way to help those communities. And ourself, from under the telecom giants. Thanks. - Alain Hebertahebert at pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 PubNIX Inc. – Branché sur le monde – Connected to the World<http://www.pubnix.net/> www.pubnix.net PubNIX is a boutique Internet service provider with personalized service that offers you an alternative to "Big Telco". At PubNIX, we are committed to providing you
Re: Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources
I think the Artic Fiber project is designed to alleviate that problem in the Northwest. It was incorporated into a larger project to connect the three continents. I know one of the founders, Mike Cunningham. http://www.submarinenetworks.com/systems/asia-europe-africa/arctic-fiber/arctic-fibre-acquired-by-quintillion-networks From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Alain Hebert <aheb...@pubnix.net> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:05 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources Warning: For just plain curiosity at the moment. I was looking for publicly accessible feasibility studies, white papers, etc, about long distance fiber deployment. (> 400km, aka >250 miles) The interest comes from documenting myself about how poorly deserved are the northern communities in Canada. And how "freakn a shame it is to get pwned" by France telecom wise =D. At this point my Goolge Fu is hardly getting thru the pointless clutter search engines accumulated over the years... From the numerous input so far: A lot of the attempts where made to use facilities like rail or electrical grid distribution, but it always ended squashed by a massive push back from the telecom industries, and in one case, maybe the FMI. I'm thinking: If people can invest millions into DOTCOM that put fitbits on cows... There must be a way to help those communities. And ourself, from under the telecom giants. Thanks. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 PubNIX Inc. – Branché sur le monde – Connected to the World<http://www.pubnix.net/> www.pubnix.net PubNIX is a boutique Internet service provider with personalized service that offers you an alternative to "Big Telco". At PubNIX, we are committed to providing you ...
Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources
Warning: For just plain curiosity at the moment. I was looking for publicly accessible feasibility studies, white papers, etc, about long distance fiber deployment. (> 400km, aka >250 miles) The interest comes from documenting myself about how poorly deserved are the northern communities in Canada. And how "freakn a shame it is to get pwned" by France telecom wise =D. At this point my Goolge Fu is hardly getting thru the pointless clutter search engines accumulated over the years... From the numerous input so far: A lot of the attempts where made to use facilities like rail or electrical grid distribution, but it always ended squashed by a massive push back from the telecom industries, and in one case, maybe the FMI. I'm thinking: If people can invest millions into DOTCOM that put fitbits on cows... There must be a way to help those communities. And ourself, from under the telecom giants. Thanks. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443
