Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
FYI, the 3rd edition was released early. Was delivered this morning from Amazon. It has a whole new chapter on MPLS-TP (Ch. 17). Hope this helps, -Jeff On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Brandon Kim wrote: Decisions decisions, I do have other MPLS books I have not finished. I suppose I can finish them before picking this up and then getting the 3rd edition.might be good timing. Good thing I didn't order the 2nd edition the other day! Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book? From: franc...@menards.ca Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:42:24 -0500 To: mounir.moha...@gmail.com CC: nanog@nanog.org Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE ... anybody has any idea if this is in ? F. On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1293194786sr=8-1 On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste mhelm...@uvic.ca wrote: Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H. -- Best Regards, Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (RS/SP) Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. NOOR Data Networks, SAE Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Wow thanks for the heads up! I went ahead and bought the other MPLS books, I guess I'll have to go get this one too now... This is very early.I wonder why the rush? Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book? From: jeff.richm...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:24:21 -0800 CC: franc...@menards.ca; mounir.moha...@gmail.com; nanog@nanog.org To: brandon@brandontek.com FYI, the 3rd edition was released early. Was delivered this morning from Amazon. It has a whole new chapter on MPLS-TP (Ch. 17). Hope this helps, -Jeff On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Brandon Kim wrote: Decisions decisions, I do have other MPLS books I have not finished. I suppose I can finish them before picking this up and then getting the 3rd edition.might be good timing. Good thing I didn't order the 2nd edition the other day! Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book? From: franc...@menards.ca Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:42:24 -0500 To: mounir.moha...@gmail.com CC: nanog@nanog.org Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE ... anybody has any idea if this is in ? F. On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1293194786sr=8-1 On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste mhelm...@uvic.ca wrote: Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H. -- Best Regards, Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (RS/SP) Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. NOOR Data Networks, SAE Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Decisions decisions, I do have other MPLS books I have not finished. I suppose I can finish them before picking this up and then getting the 3rd edition.might be good timing. Good thing I didn't order the 2nd edition the other day! Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book? From: franc...@menards.ca Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:42:24 -0500 To: mounir.moha...@gmail.com CC: nanog@nanog.org Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE ... anybody has any idea if this is in ? F. On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1293194786sr=8-1 On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste mhelm...@uvic.ca wrote: Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H. -- Best Regards, Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (RS/SP) Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. NOOR Data Networks, SAE Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE ... anybody has any idea if this is in ? F. On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1293194786sr=8-1 On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste mhelm...@uvic.ca wrote: Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H. -- Best Regards, Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (RS/SP) Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. NOOR Data Networks, SAE Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Amazon has detailed TOC and couple of chapters online so you should get all the info. MPLS-TP gets a decent coverage in this book. thanks, Shahid On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Francois Menard franc...@menards.cawrote: Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE ... anybody has any idea if this is in ? F. On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1293194786sr=8-1 On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste mhelm...@uvic.ca wrote: Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H. -- Best Regards, Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (RS/SP) Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. NOOR Data Networks, SAE Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1293194786sr=8-1 On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste mhelm...@uvic.ca wrote: Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H. -- Best Regards, Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (RS/SP) Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. NOOR Data Networks, SAE Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H.
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
While on a MPLS related TAC case recently, I was speaking to an engineer who helped vet portions of Cisco Press' MPLS Fundamentals (http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587051974). He said it's one of the best he's come across, but there may perhaps be some bias there ;) Not knowing any better, I picked it up and I'm learning quite a bit. It's also seems to be a great reference manual to keep around too. The Kindle version is handy for quick reference from mobile devices too. On 2010-12-23, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote: Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H.
RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
IMO the best book on the market is 'MPLS-Enabled Applications' by Ina Minei, Julian Lucek. It has the best coverage all the things you mentioned plus VPLS, P2MP LSP, draft-rosen and NG-VPN multicast architectures and the explanations are clear and concise. I wrote a review of this book a while back: http://www.shortestpathfirst.net/2009/11/30/book-review-mpls-aplications/ This book is awesome. You won't regret buying it. Stefan Fouant -Original Message- From: Michael Helmeste [mailto:mhelm...@uvic.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:49 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Good MPLS/VPLS book? Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H.
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
On Dec 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste mhelm...@uvic.ca wrote: Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H. Designing and Implementing IP/MPLS-Based Ethernet Layer 2 VPN Services: An Advanced Guide for VPLS and VLL (Paperback) Zhuo Xu I thought was pretty good.
RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Looks like a good book to add to my bookshelf. Cisco's MPLS fundamentals is also a good book although I'm only halfway through it From: sfou...@shortestpathfirst.net To: mhelm...@uvic.ca; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book? Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:06:03 -0500 IMO the best book on the market is 'MPLS-Enabled Applications' by Ina Minei, Julian Lucek. It has the best coverage all the things you mentioned plus VPLS, P2MP LSP, draft-rosen and NG-VPN multicast architectures and the explanations are clear and concise. I wrote a review of this book a while back: http://www.shortestpathfirst.net/2009/11/30/book-review-mpls-aplications/ This book is awesome. You won't regret buying it. Stefan Fouant -Original Message- From: Michael Helmeste [mailto:mhelm...@uvic.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:49 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Good MPLS/VPLS book? Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H.
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Thanks for the suggestions, all! Looks like I have some reading to do. On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:49:46 -0500 Dan Snyder sliple...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste mhelm...@uvic.ca wrote: Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H. Designing and Implementing IP/MPLS-Based Ethernet Layer 2 VPN Services: An Advanced Guide for VPLS and VLL (Paperback) Zhuo Xu I thought was pretty good.
