Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-19 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
 
 
  From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
 So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
 your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
 rules, cache servers, etc?
 
 I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
 guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
 
 - Zachary

Interestingly enough, it seems Apple primarily used it's own, new, CDN for the 
iOS 8 release:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/09/18/apple-chose-to-handle-ios-8-rollout-with-own-content-delivery-network


Andy Ringsmuth
a...@newslink.com
News Link – Manager Technology  Facilities
2201 Winthrop Rd., Lincoln, NE 68502-4158
(402) 475-6397(402) 304-0083 cellular

Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-19 Thread Dan Brisson
That's we thought and what we experienced but as the day went on they 
definitely shifted some load to Akamai.


-dan


Dan Brisson
Network Engineer
University of Vermont

On 9/19/2014 10:33 AM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:


  From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
rules, cache servers, etc?

I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.

- Zachary

Interestingly enough, it seems Apple primarily used it's own, new, CDN for the 
iOS 8 release:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/09/18/apple-chose-to-handle-ios-8-rollout-with-own-content-delivery-network


Andy Ringsmuth
a...@newslink.com
News Link – Manager Technology  Facilities
2201 Winthrop Rd., Lincoln, NE 68502-4158
(402) 475-6397(402) 304-0083 cellular




Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-19 Thread Adam Rothschild
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Andy Ringsmuth a...@newslink.com wrote:
[...]
 Interestingly enough, it seems Apple primarily used it's own, new, CDN for 
 the iOS 8 release:

 http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/09/18/apple-chose-to-handle-ios-8-rollout-with-own-content-delivery-network

I noticed same.  Moreover, Apple appears to be reaching 701 over
3356/174 in my neck of the woods, which is not the wisest move, due to
congestion, and thus painstakingly slow transfer speeds.

Null routing 17.253.0.0/16 caused downloads to fall back to Akamai,
where performance was quite snappy.

(I'm not saying this is a good idea, or recommended at scale -- just
sharing my observations.)

FWIW,
-a


Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-18 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi,

 Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.

It seems to depend on the device. IIRC my iPhone 4S downloaded ±0.9GB and my 
iPad Mini ±1.3GB. That might be because the 4S is still a 32-bit device.

Cheers,
Sander



Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-18 Thread Doug Barton

FWIW ...

http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/18/ios-8-adoption-off-to-a-slower-start-than-ios-7-say-multiple-usage-trackers/


RE: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-18 Thread Inglis, Adam
Depending on the device used, the zip file can range from 

Length: 1515061530 (1.4G) [application/octet-stream]

To

Length: 2119504233 (2.0G) [application/octet-stream]

Parsed from 
http://mesu.apple.com/assets/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate.xml
 

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Grant Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:34 PM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Here comes iOS 8...

For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.

-Grant

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:

 I've been waiting all morning.

  Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not 
 that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 
 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..

  Nick Olsen
 Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106


 
  From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
 So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special 
 to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic 
 shaping rules, cache servers, etc?

 I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm 
 guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.

 - Zachary





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Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-18 Thread Tyler Mills

The download was ~1.1GB, the installer requires almost 5GB free to proceed.

Tyler.

On 9/17/14 9:04 PM, JoeSox wrote:

Grant,
Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.

--
Later, Joe

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com
wrote:


For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.

-Grant

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:


I've been waiting all morning.

  Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that

it

didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release
traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..

  Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106



  From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
rules, cache servers, etc?

I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.

- Zachary







Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread Zachary McGibbon
So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
rules, cache servers, etc?

I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.

- Zachary


re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread Nick Olsen
I've been waiting all morning.
  
 Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it 
didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release 
traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106
 


 From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Here comes iOS 8...   
So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
rules, cache servers, etc?

I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.

- Zachary
 



Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread Grant Ridder
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.

-Grant

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:

 I've been waiting all morning.

  Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it
 didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release
 traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..

  Nick Olsen
 Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106


 
  From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
 So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
 your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
 rules, cache servers, etc?

 I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
 guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.

 - Zachary





Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread Zachary McGibbon
At first we saw traffic going directly to Apple (swcdn.apple.com) via our
commercial link, then it went to llnw.net, and now it is going to Akamai.

access1-srp#traceroute swcdn.apple.com
Translating swcdn.apple.com...domain server (132.206.44.21) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to geo.buni.guat.aaplimg.com (17.253.2.221)

  1 internet2-vlan677.GW.McGill.CA (132.216.255.107) [AS 17356] 4 msec 0
msec 0 msec
  2 vtelinet-216-66-110-108.vermontel.net (216.66.110.108) [AS 17356] 12
msec 8 msec 8 msec
  3 206.126.115.175 [AS 17356] 12 msec 8 msec 12 msec

--

access1-srp#traceroute swcdn.apple.com
Translating swcdn.apple.com...domain server (132.206.44.21) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to apple-dnld.vo.llnwd.net (208.111.128.6)

  1 internet2-vlan877.GW.McGill.CA (132.216.255.99) [AS 17356] 4 msec 0
msec 0 msec
  2 Internet1-vlan710.GW.McGill.CA (192.168.254.4) [AS 15318] 0 msec 0 msec
0 msec
  3 mcgill-gw-qix.risq.net (206.167.128.57) [AS 17356] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  4 mcgill-qix.dmtrl-rq.risq.net (132.202.52.89) [AS 17356] 4 msec 0 msec 0
msec
  5 imtrl-uq.risq.net (192.77.55.245) [AS 17356] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  6 mtrl2rtr2.canarie.ca (199.212.24.82) [AS 6509] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  7 10ge5-4.fr1.lga.llnw.net (198.32.160.134) [AS 17356] 52 msec 8 msec 12
msec

--

access1-srp#traceroute swcdn.apple.com
Translating swcdn.apple.com...domain server (132.206.44.21) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to a1271.gi3.akamai.net (206.167.78.23)

  1 internet1-vlan876.GW.McGill.CA (132.216.255.97) [AS 17356] 0 msec 4
msec 0 msec
  2 mcgill-gw-intrarisq.risq.net (206.167.128.33) [AS 17356] 60 msec 0 msec
0 msec
  3 mcgill-intrarisq.dmtrl-rq.risq.net (132.202.42.89) [AS 17356] 0 msec 0
msec 0 msec
  4 v2257-colo625.risq.net (132.202.45.14) [AS 376] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  5 a1271.gi3.akamai.net (206.167.78.23) [AS 376] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec



On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com
wrote:

 For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.

 -Grant

 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:

 I've been waiting all morning.

  Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that
 it
 didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release
 traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..

  Nick Olsen
 Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106


 
  From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
 So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
 your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
 rules, cache servers, etc?

 I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
 guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.

 - Zachary






Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread JoeSox
Grant,
Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.

--
Later, Joe

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com
wrote:

 For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.

 -Grant

 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:

  I've been waiting all morning.
 
   Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that
 it
  didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release
  traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
 
   Nick Olsen
  Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106
 
 
  
   From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
  To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
  So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
  your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
  rules, cache servers, etc?
 
  I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
  guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
 
  - Zachary
 
 
 



Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread Paul S.

Later,

I think it requires 5.7G of free space on the device -- but the download 
is not that big.


On 9/18/2014 午前 11:04, JoeSox wrote:

Grant,
Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.

--
Later, Joe

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com
wrote:


For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.

-Grant

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:


I've been waiting all morning.

  Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that

it

didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release
traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..

  Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106



  From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
rules, cache servers, etc?

I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.

- Zachary







Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread Bryan Horstmann-Allen
+--
| On 2014-09-17 19:04:13, JoeSox wrote:
| 
| Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.

The download is 1.1GB. 5.6GB is required for the actual upgrade.
-- 
bdha


Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread Alexander Neilson
According to devices I have seen numbers have been between 800MB and 1.3GB

iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad 2 (3G), iPad Air (LTE)

Regards
Alexander

Alexander Neilson
Neilson Productions Limited

alexan...@neilson.net.nz
021 329 681
022 456 2326

On 18/09/2014, at 2:04 pm, JoeSox joe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Grant,
 Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.
 
 --
 Later, Joe
 
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
 
 -Grant
 
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:
 
 I've been waiting all morning.
 
 Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that
 it
 didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release
 traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
 
 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106
 
 
 
 From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
 So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
 your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
 rules, cache servers, etc?
 
 I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
 guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
 
 - Zachary
 
 
 
 



Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread JoeSox
Someone just told me its 5GB free space needed. That makes sense where
someone could have read it wrong. Thanks.
5GB for for iphone seemed a bit odd.
--
Later, Joe

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:04 PM, JoeSox joe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Grant,
 Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.

 --
 Later, Joe

 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.

 -Grant

 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:

  I've been waiting all morning.
 
   Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not
 that it
  didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release
  traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
 
   Nick Olsen
  Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106
 
 
  
   From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
  To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
  So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
  your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
  rules, cache servers, etc?
 
  I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
  guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
 
  - Zachary
 
 
 





Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread Bill Woodcock

Slight differences depending on platform. For my 5S, the OTA patch is 1.1GB, 
and the clean install is 2.05GB. Both compressed, of course. 


-Bill


 On Sep 17, 2014, at 19:15, Alexander Neilson alexan...@neilson.net.nz 
 wrote:
 
 According to devices I have seen numbers have been between 800MB and 1.3GB
 
 iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad 2 (3G), iPad Air (LTE)
 
 Regards
 Alexander
 
 Alexander Neilson
 Neilson Productions Limited
 
 alexan...@neilson.net.nz
 021 329 681
 022 456 2326
 
 On 18/09/2014, at 2:04 pm, JoeSox joe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Grant,
 Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.
 
 --
 Later, Joe
 
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
 
 -Grant
 
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:
 
 I've been waiting all morning.
 
 Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that
 it
 didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release
 traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
 
 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106
 
 
 
 From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
 So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
 your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
 rules, cache servers, etc?
 
 I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
 guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
 
 - Zachary
 



Re: Here comes iOS 8...

2014-09-17 Thread Grant Ridder
My reference was the update page in settings said the download was 1.1 gig

Grant

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:04 PM, JoeSox joe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Grant,
 Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.
 
 --
 Later, Joe
 
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
 
 -Grant
 
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:
 
 I've been waiting all morning.
 
 Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that
 it
 didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release
 traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
 
 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106
 
 
 
 From: Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Here comes iOS 8...
 So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to
 your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping
 rules, cache servers, etc?
 
 I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm
 guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
 
 - Zachary