Re: Latest Cisco for small dual homed ASN

2010-02-18 Thread Andy Davidson
On 11/02/2010 18:53, James Smallacombe wrote:
 I have a customer that is looking at using BGP for their network; one
 connection over a few bonded T1s, the other over a Comcast Enterprise
 connection (which supposedly will do BGP now).
 When I was dual homed a few years ago, a 7204VXR with 256MB was more
 than adequate.  With routing tables growing the way they are, what's a
 good Cisco based solution on the lower end of the price spectrum that
 should handle this fine for a few years?

There was a bit of info missing from the replies in this thread, so I
shall inflict my thoughts onto you all.  Sorry, but :

On 11/02/2010 19:12, Matthew Huff wrote:
 You can squeeze by with 512MB, but 1GB of ram would be better.
 A 7204VXR with 1GB of ram will work fine.

... though you would want an npe-g1 or npe-g2 to avoid frustration.

On 11/02/2010 19:08, Seth Mattinen wrote:
 Any 2800/3800 ISR (except the 2801) will handle this just fine

Any sort of attack traffic will hurt this family in a hosting
environment in my experience.  They are good (feature-rich) in the
'branch' environment though.

We are also rolling out huge volumes of Juniper equipment, and medium to
high end J-series equipment is likely to vastly exceed expectations
without exceeding your budget.


Andy
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Re: Latest Cisco for small dual homed ASN

2010-02-18 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:53 PM, James Smallacombe u...@3.am wrote:
 I have a customer that is looking at using BGP for their network; one
 connection over a few bonded T1s, the other over a Comcast Enterprise
 connection (which supposedly will do BGP now).

 When I was dual homed a few years ago, a 7204VXR with 256MB was more than
 adequate.  With routing tables growing the way they are, what's a good Cisco
 based solution on the lower end of the price spectrum that should handle
 this fine for a few years?

I use 2811s in a couple of similar configurations. One of them
currently uses about 400M of the 768M ram with 4 BGP feeds and
soft-reconfiguration inbound. Another with just one BGP feed and
soft-reconfiguration takes about 300M. Needs a minute or so to recover
from one of the BGP links dropping but otherwise it keeps up with my
light-weight traffic just fine. In both cases the packets are
cpu-switched and normal CPU load (when a link isn't collapsing or
returning) is under 10%.




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Latest Cisco for small dual homed ASN

2010-02-11 Thread James Smallacombe


I have a customer that is looking at using BGP for their network; one 
connection over a few bonded T1s, the other over a Comcast Enterprise 
connection (which supposedly will do BGP now).


When I was dual homed a few years ago, a 7204VXR with 256MB was more than 
adequate.  With routing tables growing the way they are, what's a good 
Cisco based solution on the lower end of the price spectrum that should 
handle this fine for a few years?


Somebody else is suggesting a Vyatta (Linux based) solution, which makes 
me a little nervous.  Then again, Linux has improved dramatically from a 
security and stability P.O.V, so maybe it's worth a look if there's no 
hard drive involved.


TIA,

James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor
u...@3.am   http://3.am
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Re: Latest Cisco for small dual homed ASN

2010-02-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/11/2010 10:53, James Smallacombe wrote:
 
 I have a customer that is looking at using BGP for their network; one
 connection over a few bonded T1s, the other over a Comcast Enterprise
 connection (which supposedly will do BGP now).
 
 When I was dual homed a few years ago, a 7204VXR with 256MB was more
 than adequate.  With routing tables growing the way they are, what's a
 good Cisco based solution on the lower end of the price spectrum that
 should handle this fine for a few years?
 

Any 2800/3800 ISR (except the 2801) will handle this just fine with at
least 512MB RAM if you want to stick with Cisco. You'll get more
performance for the price out of Vyatta if that's more important.

~Seth



RE: Latest Cisco for small dual homed ASN

2010-02-11 Thread Matthew Huff
You can squeeze by with 512MB, but 1GB of ram would be better. 

A 7204VXR with 1GB of ram will work fine. You can also squeeze by with a 2951

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 -Original Message-
 From: James Smallacombe [mailto:u...@3.am]
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:53 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Latest Cisco for small dual homed ASN
 
 
 I have a customer that is looking at using BGP for their network; one
 connection over a few bonded T1s, the other over a Comcast Enterprise
 connection (which supposedly will do BGP now).
 
 When I was dual homed a few years ago, a 7204VXR with 256MB was more than
 adequate.  With routing tables growing the way they are, what's a good
 Cisco based solution on the lower end of the price spectrum that should
 handle this fine for a few years?
 
 Somebody else is suggesting a Vyatta (Linux based) solution, which makes
 me a little nervous.  Then again, Linux has improved dramatically from a
 security and stability P.O.V, so maybe it's worth a look if there's no
 hard drive involved.
 
 TIA,
 
 James Smallacombe   PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor
 u...@3.am http://3.am
 =

attachment: Matthew Huff.vcf

Re: Latest Cisco for small dual homed ASN

2010-02-11 Thread Curtis Maurand

On 2/11/2010 1:53 PM, James Smallacombe wrote:


I have a customer that is looking at using BGP for their network; one 
connection over a few bonded T1s, the other over a Comcast Enterprise 
connection (which supposedly will do BGP now).


When I was dual homed a few years ago, a 7204VXR with 256MB was more 
than adequate.  With routing tables growing the way they are, what's a 
good Cisco based solution on the lower end of the price spectrum that 
should handle this fine for a few years?


Somebody else is suggesting a Vyatta (Linux based) solution, which 
makes me a little nervous.  Then again, Linux has improved 
dramatically from a security and stability P.O.V, so maybe it's worth 
a look if there's no hard drive involved.


I've been running vyatta, here, for a year now.  Its running VPN's and 
its routing on a TimeWarner Fiber on a modest dual core supermicro 
server.  Its never had to be restarted.  Its only dropped its tunnel a 
few times, but a cronjob checks it and restarts if it goes away.


Version  :VC5.0.2
Copyright:2006-2009 Vyatta, Inc.
Built by :r...@vyatta.com
Built on :Fri Feb 27 03:18:16 UTC 2009
Build ID :2009-02-26-2347-3bb1a83
Boot via :disk
Uptime   :15:10:39 up 225 days, 22:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 
0.00, 0.00



Cheers,
Curtis