Re: Fwd: FW: NIST NTP Server List

2014-11-03 Thread Mark Andrews

http://time.gov/HTML5/ over IPv6 is broken.

% fetch -6v http://time.gov/HTML5/
looking up time.gov
connecting to time.gov:80
requesting http://time.gov/HTML5/


404 Not Found

Not Found
The requested URL /HTML5/ was not found on this server.

fetch: http://time.gov/HTML5/: Not Found
% fetch -4v http://time.gov/HTML5/
looking up time.gov
connecting to time.gov:80
requesting http://time.gov/HTML5/
remote size / mtime: 10438 / 1414696016
fetch.out 100% of   10 kB  104 MBps
% 

Mark

In message 5457a711.1080...@nist.gov, Andrew Novick writes:
 
 Hello - can you tell me what this pertains to, or if I can help?
 
 Andrew Novick
 NIST
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Andrews [mailto:ma...@isc.org]
 Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:22 PM
 To: Pete Carah
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org; do-webmaster
 Subject: Re: NIST NTP Server List
 
 
 In message 5452d146.4080...@altadena.net, Pete Carah writes:
  On 10/30/2014 06:27 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
   IPv6 is production.  Report the problem.
  
  Sorry for reporting it here, but there seems to be more than one
  problem (the link resulting from clicking on nist time.
 
 What does reporting a 404 to nanog do?  The network to them is UP.  Since the
  front page is up and actually has a address for reporting web problems I wou
 ld expect that you would report the problem there (I've cc'd the address).
 
 If the front page wasn't up you should do a whois lookup and use those contac
 t details except this a .gov domain where whois is a farce.  So you also need
  to contact your federal representative and complain about that.
 
 Nist can put contact details on their web page:
 
 Public Inquiries Unit
 NIST, 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 1070, Gaithersburg, MD 20899-1070
 Email: inquir...@nist.gov
 Phone: (301) 975-NIST (6478) or Federal Relay Service (800) 877-8339 (TTY)
 
 But the whois give this farcical response:
 
 % DOTGOV WHOIS Server ready
 Domain Name: NIST.GOV
 Status: ACTIVE
 
  Last update of whois database: 2014-10-31T00:16:27Z 
 Please be advised that this whois server only contains information pertaining
  to the .GOV domain. For information for other domains please use the whois s
 erver at RS.INTERNIC.NET.
   
  I get the nist front page fine on v6, then click on the time link and
  get a 404 looking for a strange url:
  hxxp://time.gov/HTML5 (which could be fine but does look a little
  strange.)
 
  -- Pete
 
 
 
 --
 Mark Andrews, ISC
 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
 PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org
 
 
 
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Andrews [a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=mailto:marka@isc.o
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 Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:22 PM
 To: Pete Carah
 Cc: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:nanog@nanog.org;nanog@n
 anog.org/a; do-webmaster
 Subject: Re: NIST NTP Server List
 
 
 In message a class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href=mailto:5452D146.4080307@alt
 adena.netlt;5452d146.4080...@altadena.netgt;/a, Pete Carah writes:
 gt; On 10/30/2014 06:27 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
 gt; gt; IPv6 is production.  Report the problem.
 gt; gt;
 gt; Sorry for reporting it here, but there seems to be more than one 
 gt; problem (the link resulting from clicking on nist time.
 
 What does reporting a 404 to nanog do?  The network to them is UP.  Since the
  front page is up and actually has a address for reporting web problems I wou
 ld expect that you would report the problem there (I've cc'd the address).
 
 If the front page wasn't up you should do a whois lookup and use those contac
 t details except this a .gov domain where whois is a farce.  So you also need
  to contact your federal representative and complain about that.
 
 Nist can put contact details on their web page:
 
 Public Inquiries Unit
 NIST, 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 1070, Gaithersburg, MD 20899-1070
 Email: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:inquir...@nist.gov;i
 nquir...@nist.gov/a
 Phone: (301) 975-NIST (6478) or Federal Relay Service (800) 877-8339 (TTY)
 
 But the whois give this farcical response:
 
 % DOTGOV WHOIS Server ready
Domain Name: NIST.GOV
Status: ACTIVE
 
 gt;gt;gt; Last update of whois database: 2014-10-31T00:16:27Z lt;lt;lt;
 Please be advised that this whois server only contains information pertaining
  to the .GOV domain. For information for other domains please use the whois s
 erver at RS.INTERNIC.NET.
  
 gt; I get the nist front page fine on v6, then click on the time link and 
 gt; get a 404 looking for a strange url

Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
Still acting up for me this morning.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:

 On 10/29/14 12:36 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
 wrote:

 Happy Eyeballs has nothing to do with it. This is a server
 misconfiguration
 plain and simple.


 I meant that it seems that v4 is broken, but v6 is not.


 Other way around.




-- 
Brian Christopher Raaen
Network Architect
Zcorum


Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
It is now working over IPv6

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen 
mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:

 Still acting up for me this morning.

 On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:

 On 10/29/14 12:36 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
 wrote:

 Happy Eyeballs has nothing to do with it. This is a server
 misconfiguration
 plain and simple.


 I meant that it seems that v4 is broken, but v6 is not.


 Other way around.




 --
 Brian Christopher Raaen
 Network Architect
 Zcorum




-- 
Brian Christopher Raaen
Network Architect
Zcorum


Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Javier J
Either is alcatel-lucent.com for the past 2 days I noticed. Ipv6 version of
their site broken.
 On Oct 30, 2014 1:18 PM, Brian Christopher Raaen 
mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:

 It is now working over IPv6

 On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen 
 mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:

  Still acting up for me this morning.
 
  On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
 wrote:
 
  On 10/29/14 12:36 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
 
  On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
  wrote:
 
  Happy Eyeballs has nothing to do with it. This is a server
  misconfiguration
  plain and simple.
 
 
  I meant that it seems that v4 is broken, but v6 is not.
 
 
  Other way around.
 
 
 
 
  --
  Brian Christopher Raaen
  Network Architect
  Zcorum
 



 --
 Brian Christopher Raaen
 Network Architect
 Zcorum



Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Mark Andrews

IPv6 is production.  Report the problem.

In message 
CA+M5dWaR8GvpQZ6EC_wWv5nmz0v0_zmEipUQ15q5bvpR=Ytw=a...@mail.gmail.com
, Javier J writes:
 Either is alcatel-lucent.com for the past 2 days I noticed. Ipv6 version of
 their site broken.
  On Oct 30, 2014 1:18 PM, Brian Christopher Raaen 
 mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:
 
  It is now working over IPv6
 
  On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen 
  mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:
 
   Still acting up for me this morning.
  
   On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
  wrote:
  
   On 10/29/14 12:36 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
  
   On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
   wrote:
  
   Happy Eyeballs has nothing to do with it. This is a server
   misconfiguration
   plain and simple.
  
  
   I meant that it seems that v4 is broken, but v6 is not.
  
  
   Other way around.
  
  
  
  
   --
   Brian Christopher Raaen
   Network Architect
   Zcorum
  
 
 
 
  --
  Brian Christopher Raaen
  Network Architect
  Zcorum
 
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org


Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Pete Carah
On 10/30/2014 06:27 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
 IPv6 is production.  Report the problem.

Sorry for reporting it here, but there seems to be more than one problem
(the link resulting from clicking on nist time.

I get the nist front page fine on v6, then click on the time link and
get a 404 looking for a strange url:
hxxp://time.gov/HTML5 (which could be fine but does look a little
strange.)

-- Pete





NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
The list of NIST NTP servers is down for me, is anyone else seeing this?
I'm getting a 404 error
http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

-- 
Brian Christopher Raaen
Network Architect
Zcorum


Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Stuart Sheldon
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Yeah, it looks like it's down

stu



On 10/29/2014 10:14 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen wrote:
 The list of NIST NTP servers is down for me, is anyone else seeing this?
 I'm getting a 404 error
 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi
 

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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread John Peach
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

No, it's not


On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:16:58 -0700
Stuart Sheldon s...@actusa.net wrote:

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 Yeah, it looks like it's down
 
 stu
 
 
 
 On 10/29/2014 10:14 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen wrote:
  The list of NIST NTP servers is down for me, is anyone else seeing
  this? I'm getting a 404 error
  http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi
  
 
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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Robert Webb

Try again.

Just worked fine for me.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:16:58 -0700
 Stuart Sheldon s...@actusa.net wrote:

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Yeah, it looks like it's down

stu



On 10/29/2014 10:14 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen wrote:
The list of NIST NTP servers is down for me, is anyone else seeing 
this?

I'm getting a 404 error
http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi



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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
I'm still getting a 404.  I am using a Windstream backbone, is this maybe
path/server specific.  Here is a dig.

dig tf.nist.gov

;  DiG 9.9.5-3-Ubuntu  tf.nist.gov
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46860
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tf.nist.gov.   IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
tf.nist.gov.1784IN  CNAME   tf.boulder.nist.gov.
tf.boulder.nist.gov.86384   IN  CNAME   ftp.boulder.nist.gov.
ftp.boulder.nist.gov.   86384   IN  A   132.163.4.45

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
boulder.nist.gov.   1485IN  NS  dns-y.boulder.nist.gov.
boulder.nist.gov.   1485IN  NS  gdnsea.nist.gov.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns-y.boulder.nist.gov. 1485IN  2610:20:6b01:4::10

;; Query time: 6 msec
;; SERVER: 68.70.255.9#53(68.70.255.9)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 29 13:25:15 EDT 2014
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 168

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Brian Christopher Raaen 
mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:

 I'm still getting a 404.  I am using a Windstream backbone, is this maybe
 path/server specific.  Here is a dig.

 dig tf.nist.gov

 ;  DiG 9.9.5-3-Ubuntu  tf.nist.gov
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46860
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
 ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;tf.nist.gov.   IN  A

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 tf.nist.gov.1784IN  CNAME   tf.boulder.nist.gov.
 tf.boulder.nist.gov.86384   IN  CNAME   ftp.boulder.nist.gov.
 ftp.boulder.nist.gov.   86384   IN  A   132.163.4.45

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 boulder.nist.gov.   1485IN  NS  dns-y.boulder.nist.gov.
 boulder.nist.gov.   1485IN  NS  gdnsea.nist.gov.

 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 dns-y.boulder.nist.gov. 1485IN  2610:20:6b01:4::10

 ;; Query time: 6 msec
 ;; SERVER: 68.70.255.9#53(68.70.255.9)
 ;; WHEN: Wed Oct 29 13:25:15 EDT 2014
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 168



 On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Chris Patsalou 
 chrispatsa...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Appears up from here (London, UK)

 *NameIP AddressLocationStatusnist1-pa.ustiming.org
 http://nist1-pa.ustiming.org206.246.122.250Hatfield, PAAll services
 availabletime-a.nist.gov http://time-a.nist.gov129.6.15.28NIST,
 Gaithersburg, MarylandAll services busy, not recommendedtime-b.nist.gov
 http://time-b.nist.gov129.6.15.29NIST, Gaithersburg, MarylandAll services
 busy, not recommendedtime-c.nist.gov
 http://time-c.nist.gov129.6.15.30NIST, Gaithersburg, MarylandAll services
 availabletime-d.nist.gov http://time-d.nist.gov2610:20:6F15:15::27NIST,
 Gaithersburg, MarylandAll services via IPV6nist1-macon.macon.ga.us
 http://nist1-macon.macon.ga.us98.175.203.200Macon, GeorgiaAll services
 availablewolfnisttime.com
 http://wolfnisttime.com207.223.123.18Birmingham, AlabamaAll services
 availablenist.time.nosc.us
 http://nist.time.nosc.us96.226.242.9Carrollton, TexasAll services
 availablenist.expertsmi.com
 http://nist.expertsmi.com50.245.103.198Monroe, Michigantemporary
 failurenist.netservicesgroup.com
 http://nist.netservicesgroup.com64.113.32.5Southfield, MichiganAll
 services availablenisttime.carsoncity.k12.mi.us
 http://nisttime.carsoncity.k12.mi.us66.219.116.140Carson City,
 MichiganAll services availablenist1-lnk.binary.net
 http://nist1-lnk.binary.net216.229.0.179Lincoln, NebraskaAll services
 availablewwv.nist.gov http://wwv.nist.gov24.56.178.140WWV, Fort Collins,
 ColoradoAll services availabletime-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
 http://time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov132.163.4.101NIST, Boulder, Coloradontp
 ok; time, daytime busytime-b.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
 http://time-b.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov132.163.4.102NIST, Boulder, ColoradoAll
 services busytime-c.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
 http://time-c.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov132.163.4.103NIST, Boulder, Coloradontp
 ok; time, daytime busytime.nist.gov http://time.nist.govglobal address
 for all serversMultiple locationsAll services availableutcnist.colorado.edu
 http://utcnist.colorado.edu128.138.140.44University of Colorado,
 BoulderAll services availableutcnist2.colorado.edu
 http://utcnist2.colorado.edu128.138.141.172University of Colorado,
 BoulderAll services availablentp-nist.ldsbc.edu
 http://ntp-nist.ldsbc.edu198.60.73.8LDSBC, Salt Lake City, UtahAll
 services availablenist1-lv.ustiming.org
 http://nist1-lv.ustiming.org64.250.229.100Las Vegas, NevadaAll services
 availabletime-nw.nist.gov http://time-nw.nist.gov131.107.13.100Microsoft,
 Redmond, WashingtonAll services very busynist-time-server.eoni.com
 http://nist-time-server.eoni.com216.228.192.69La Grande, OregonAll
 services availableHope this helps?*

 On 29 October 2014 17:14, Brian Christopher Raaen 
 mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:

 The list of NIST 

Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Brian Butler

On 10/29/2014 12:14 PM, Brian Christopher Raaen wrote:
 The list of NIST NTP servers is down for me, is anyone else seeing this?
 I'm getting a 404 error
 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

I concur, that URL results in 404 for me too.  Much content which had
been reliably available at http://tf.nist.gov and
http://www.boulder.nist.gov/ seems to have vanished or broken lately. 
Not aware of alternate source.  I prefer the NTP.org pools and other
sources anyway, for reliability.

I didn't memorize the federal time servers, but wasn't simply time.gov
one of them?

~$ ntptrace time.gov
2610:20:6005:13::35: timed out, nothing received
***Request timed out

http://www.time.gov/about.html leads to
http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/ which redirects to the broken
http://tf.nist.gov ... so this has got to be an error.

Maybe they're doing some rearranging and moving, starting with the
removing old part.

At least tf.nist.gov is *up*, giving 403s and 404s.  Keying in on .gov
and ipv6 and related debacles, I wonder if results vary depending on
whether one uses v4 or v6...idle speculation.

Perhaps contact via http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/contact.cfm
(which, amusingly, came with a Foresee survey when I loaded it moments
ago...) or timei...@boulder.nist.gov mailto:timei...@boulder.nist.gov
may yield something.




Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Robert Duffy
It's up from Vancouver, Canada.  No 404 from here.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Stuart Sheldon s...@actusa.net wrote:

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 Yeah, it looks like it's down

 stu



 On 10/29/2014 10:14 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen wrote:
  The list of NIST NTP servers is down for me, is anyone else seeing this?
  I'm getting a 404 error
  http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi
 

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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Brian Butler tec...@gmail.com

  I'm getting a 404 error
  http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

Add me to the list of it works people.

 I concur, that URL results in 404 for me too. Much content which had
 been reliably available at http://tf.nist.gov and
 http://www.boulder.nist.gov/ seems to have vanished or broken lately.
 Not aware of alternate source. I prefer the NTP.org pools and other
 sources anyway, for reliability.

While boulder.nist does now seem to be a redirect, tf.nist and the child
page are both working from Sprint LTE.
 
 I didn't memorize the federal time servers, but wasn't simply time.gov
 one of them?

time.nist.gov is the round-robin.

All this leads me to a pretty important question:

What happens if Judah Levine gets hit by a bus?

Cheers,
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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Stefan Bethke
 Am 29.10.2014 um 18:14 schrieb Brian Christopher Raaen 
 mailing-li...@brianraaen.com:
 
 The list of NIST NTP servers is down for me, is anyone else seeing this?
 I'm getting a 404 error
 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

404 from Kabel Deutschland reaching tf.nist.gov via AS1273, a small hoster in 
Hamburg, Germany via AS194, Inception Hosting (UK) via AS209; but proper page 
from VZ FIOS in Framingham, MA also via AS209.

From AS13135, I get 404 on the web page, but my ntpd syncs to 128.138.141.172 
just fine.

Stefan

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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Stefan Bethke
Seems to be working over IPv4, not over IPv6.

$ curl -6 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN
htmlhead
title404 Not Found/title
/headbody
h1Not Found/h1
$ curl -4 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
html
head
titleNIST Internet Time Service/title
meta http-equiv=content-type 
content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
script language=JavaScript id=_fed_an_js_tag 
src=/js/federated-analytics.all.min.js?agency=NISTsubagency=tfpua= 
UA-42404149-6yt=true/script


 Am 29.10.2014 um 18:26 schrieb Brian Christopher Raaen 
 mailing-li...@brianraaen.com:
 
 I'm still getting a 404.  I am using a Windstream backbone, is this maybe
 path/server specific.  Here is a dig.
 
 dig tf.nist.gov

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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
That is interesting as the computer I am using is on dual-stack, and I am
probably using IPv6 to reach it.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de wrote:

 Seems to be working over IPv4, not over IPv6.

 $ curl -6 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN
 htmlhead
 title404 Not Found/title
 /headbody
 h1Not Found/h1
 $ curl -4 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
 html
 head
 titleNIST Internet Time Service/title
 meta http-equiv=content-type
 content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
 script language=JavaScript id=_fed_an_js_tag
 src=/js/federated-analytics.all.min.js?agency=NISTsubagency=tfpua=
 UA-42404149-6yt=true/script


  Am 29.10.2014 um 18:26 schrieb Brian Christopher Raaen 
 mailing-li...@brianraaen.com:
 
  I'm still getting a 404.  I am using a Windstream backbone, is this maybe
  path/server specific.  Here is a dig.
 
  dig tf.nist.gov

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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Doug Barton
Also getting a 404 over IPv6. You can verify what transport we're using 
in Firefox using the SixorNot plugin.


hth,

Doug



Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen
mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:
 That is interesting as the computer I am using is on dual-stack, and I am
 probably using IPv6 to reach it.


happy eyeballs

 On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de wrote:

 Seems to be working over IPv4, not over IPv6.

 $ curl -6 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN
 htmlhead
 title404 Not Found/title
 /headbody
 h1Not Found/h1
 $ curl -4 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
 html
 head
 titleNIST Internet Time Service/title
 meta http-equiv=content-type
 content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
 script language=JavaScript id=_fed_an_js_tag
 src=/js/federated-analytics.all.min.js?agency=NISTsubagency=tfpua=
 UA-42404149-6yt=true/script


  Am 29.10.2014 um 18:26 schrieb Brian Christopher Raaen 
 mailing-li...@brianraaen.com:
 
  I'm still getting a 404.  I am using a Windstream backbone, is this maybe
  path/server specific.  Here is a dig.
 
  dig tf.nist.gov

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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Doug Barton
Happy Eyeballs has nothing to do with it. This is a server 
misconfiguration plain and simple.


Doug


On 10/29/14 11:30 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen
mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:

That is interesting as the computer I am using is on dual-stack, and I am
probably using IPv6 to reach it.



happy eyeballs


On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de wrote:


Seems to be working over IPv4, not over IPv6.

$ curl -6 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN
htmlhead
title404 Not Found/title
/headbody
h1Not Found/h1
$ curl -4 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
html
 head
 titleNIST Internet Time Service/title
 meta http-equiv=content-type
content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
script language=JavaScript id=_fed_an_js_tag
src=/js/federated-analytics.all.min.js?agency=NISTsubagency=tfpua=
UA-42404149-6yt=true/script



Am 29.10.2014 um 18:26 schrieb Brian Christopher Raaen 

mailing-li...@brianraaen.com:


I'm still getting a 404.  I am using a Windstream backbone, is this maybe
path/server specific.  Here is a dig.

dig tf.nist.gov


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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:
 Happy Eyeballs has nothing to do with it. This is a server misconfiguration
 plain and simple.


I meant that it seems that v4 is broken, but v6 is not.
so sure, it's a server thing, but he's seeing different results maybe
as a side effect of eyeballs.

 Doug



 On 10/29/14 11:30 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen
 mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:

 That is interesting as the computer I am using is on dual-stack, and I am
 probably using IPv6 to reach it.


 happy eyeballs

 On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de wrote:

 Seems to be working over IPv4, not over IPv6.

 $ curl -6 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN
 htmlhead
 title404 Not Found/title
 /headbody
 h1Not Found/h1
 $ curl -4 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
 html
  head
  titleNIST Internet Time Service/title
  meta http-equiv=content-type
 content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
 script language=JavaScript id=_fed_an_js_tag
 src=/js/federated-analytics.all.min.js?agency=NISTsubagency=tfpua=
 UA-42404149-6yt=true/script


 Am 29.10.2014 um 18:26 schrieb Brian Christopher Raaen 

 mailing-li...@brianraaen.com:


 I'm still getting a 404.  I am using a Windstream backbone, is this
 maybe
 path/server specific.  Here is a dig.

 dig tf.nist.gov


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 Network Architect
 Zcorum




Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
I disabled IPv6 on my machine and was able to pull it up, reenable IPv6 and
I start getting 404's.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:
  Happy Eyeballs has nothing to do with it. This is a server
 misconfiguration
  plain and simple.
 

 I meant that it seems that v4 is broken, but v6 is not.
 so sure, it's a server thing, but he's seeing different results maybe
 as a side effect of eyeballs.

  Doug
 
 
 
  On 10/29/14 11:30 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
 
  On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen
  mailing-li...@brianraaen.com wrote:
 
  That is interesting as the computer I am using is on dual-stack, and I
 am
  probably using IPv6 to reach it.
 
 
  happy eyeballs
 
  On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de wrote:
 
  Seems to be working over IPv4, not over IPv6.
 
  $ curl -6 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
  !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN
  htmlhead
  title404 Not Found/title
  /headbody
  h1Not Found/h1
  $ curl -4 http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi 2/dev/null | head -5
  html
   head
   titleNIST Internet Time Service/title
   meta http-equiv=content-type
  content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
  script language=JavaScript id=_fed_an_js_tag
  src=/js/federated-analytics.all.min.js?agency=NISTsubagency=tfpua=
  UA-42404149-6yt=true/script
 
 
  Am 29.10.2014 um 18:26 schrieb Brian Christopher Raaen 
 
  mailing-li...@brianraaen.com:
 
 
  I'm still getting a 404.  I am using a Windstream backbone, is this
  maybe
  path/server specific.  Here is a dig.
 
  dig tf.nist.gov
 
 
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  Network Architect
  Zcorum
 
 




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Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-29 Thread Doug Barton

On 10/29/14 12:36 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:

Happy Eyeballs has nothing to do with it. This is a server misconfiguration
plain and simple.



I meant that it seems that v4 is broken, but v6 is not.


Other way around.