Re: Optic Vendor Coding Question

2015-03-05 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* I may end up doing that. I was ordering new ones from China (6COM and 
Gigalight) and they asked me if I needed any particular vendor coding. Thus far 
people that have used all of the various pieces involved (Mikrotik, Dell, 
generic Intel) said they should be fine with non-coded optics. 



BTW Keefe: Do any of you "north side" guys have a link into Cermak? Offlist is 
fine. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Keefe John"  
To: "NANOG list"  
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 10:24:46 AM 
Subject: Re: Optic Vendor Coding Question 

Check on ebay for a SFP / SFP+ programmer. You can then buy cheap 
optics from fiberstore.com and code them to any vendor. You could 
'clone' one of your current dell optics to the generic ones. 

Keefe 


On 3/5/2015 10:44 AM, Joe Greco wrote: 
>> Do Dell 8132s have SFP+ vendor code issues? 
> As in, do they not-work with non-Dell optics? 
> 
> They don't work with Intel SR optics (whatever it is that comes with 
> the X520-SR's). They do seem to work with generic Finisar 1GB optics. 
> Since the Dell branded FTLX8571D3BCL SR's seem to go for only $20-$30 
> on eBay I haven't been highly motivated to identify other 10GB modules 
> that work/don't-work. 
> 
> The strategy here has been to simply load up 10GB gear with compatible 
> SR optics and then forget about it. I'm guessing that's not helpful 
> because you're probably interested in non-SR optics, but feel free to 
> ping me if you think I might be able to answer further questions. 
> 
> #show interfaces transceiver properties 
> 
> Yes: Dell Qualified No: Not Qualified 
> N/A : Not Applicable 
> Port Type Media Serial Number Dell Qualified 
> - --- - - -- 
> Te1/0/3 SFP 1000BASE-T PL7 No 
> Te1/0/4 SFP 1000BASE-T PKL No 
> Te1/0/5 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AL3 Yes 
> Te1/0/6 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AK3 Yes 
> Te1/0/7 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
> Te1/0/8 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
> Te1/0/9 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
> Te1/0/10 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
> Te1/0/11 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AJC Yes 
> Te1/0/12 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AL2 Yes 
> Te1/0/13 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AJQ Yes 
> Te1/0/14 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
> Te1/0/15 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AHG Yes 
> Te1/0/16 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AJQ Yes 
> Te1/0/17 SFP 1000BASE-T PKL No 
> Te1/0/18 SFP 1000BASE-T PL7 No 
> Te1/0/19 UNKNOWN N/A H11 N/A 
> Te1/0/20 UNKNOWN N/A P11 N/A 
> Te1/0/22 UNKNOWN N/A H51 N/A 
> Te1/0/23 SFP+ 10GBASE-CU1M 22808 Yes 
> Te1/0/24 SFP+ 10GBASE-CU1M 11560 Yes 
> Fo1/1/2 QSFP 40GBASE-CR4-1M CN0V42N6F37 Yes 
> 
> 
> The 19, 20, 22 SFP's are Finisar 1GB, the 1000baseT are Dell branded 
> but apparently not qualified for use in the switch. I think they 
> showed up differently before the firmware upgrade that made the unit 
> think it's a Dell Networking N4032F. 
> 
> Overall we're pleased with the 8132F, but we're not doing anything too 
> awful stressy with them. 
> 
> ... JG 




Re: Optic Vendor Coding Question

2015-03-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Thanks for this and several off-list responses. The consensus was that I was 
safe. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Joe Greco"  
To: "Mike Hammett"  
Cc: "NANOG list"  
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 10:44:19 AM 
Subject: Re: Optic Vendor Coding Question 

> Do Dell 8132s have SFP+ vendor code issues? 

As in, do they not-work with non-Dell optics? 

They don't work with Intel SR optics (whatever it is that comes with 
the X520-SR's). They do seem to work with generic Finisar 1GB optics. 
Since the Dell branded FTLX8571D3BCL SR's seem to go for only $20-$30 
on eBay I haven't been highly motivated to identify other 10GB modules 
that work/don't-work. 

The strategy here has been to simply load up 10GB gear with compatible 
SR optics and then forget about it. I'm guessing that's not helpful 
because you're probably interested in non-SR optics, but feel free to 
ping me if you think I might be able to answer further questions. 

#show interfaces transceiver properties 

Yes: Dell Qualified No: Not Qualified 
N/A : Not Applicable 
Port Type Media Serial Number Dell Qualified 
- --- - - -- 
Te1/0/3 SFP 1000BASE-T PL7 No 
Te1/0/4 SFP 1000BASE-T PKL No 
Te1/0/5 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AL3 Yes 
Te1/0/6 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AK3 Yes 
Te1/0/7 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
Te1/0/8 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
Te1/0/9 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
Te1/0/10 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
Te1/0/11 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AJC Yes 
Te1/0/12 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AL2 Yes 
Te1/0/13 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AJQ Yes 
Te1/0/14 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AP9 Yes 
Te1/0/15 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AHG Yes 
Te1/0/16 SFP+ 10GBASE-SR AJQ Yes 
Te1/0/17 SFP 1000BASE-T PKL No 
Te1/0/18 SFP 1000BASE-T PL7 No 
Te1/0/19 UNKNOWN N/A H11 N/A 
Te1/0/20 UNKNOWN N/A P11 N/A 
Te1/0/22 UNKNOWN N/A H51 N/A 
Te1/0/23 SFP+ 10GBASE-CU1M 22808 Yes 
Te1/0/24 SFP+ 10GBASE-CU1M 11560 Yes 
Fo1/1/2 QSFP 40GBASE-CR4-1M CN0V42N6F37 Yes 


The 19, 20, 22 SFP's are Finisar 1GB, the 1000baseT are Dell branded 
but apparently not qualified for use in the switch. I think they 
showed up differently before the firmware upgrade that made the unit 
think it's a Dell Networking N4032F. 

Overall we're pleased with the 8132F, but we're not doing anything too 
awful stressy with them. 

... JG 
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net 
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I 
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) 
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples. 



Re: Optic Vendor Coding Question

2015-03-05 Thread Keefe John
Check on ebay for a SFP / SFP+ programmer.  You can then buy cheap 
optics from fiberstore.com and code them to any vendor.  You could 
'clone' one of your current dell optics to the generic ones.


Keefe


On 3/5/2015 10:44 AM, Joe Greco wrote:

Do Dell 8132s have SFP+ vendor code issues?

As in, do they not-work with non-Dell optics?

They don't work with Intel SR optics (whatever it is that comes with
the X520-SR's).  They do seem to work with generic Finisar 1GB optics.
Since the Dell branded FTLX8571D3BCL SR's seem to go for only $20-$30
on eBay I haven't been highly motivated to identify other 10GB modules
that work/don't-work.

The strategy here has been to simply load up 10GB gear with compatible
SR optics and then forget about it.  I'm guessing that's not helpful
because you're probably interested in non-SR optics, but feel free to
ping me if you think I might be able to answer further questions.

#show interfaces transceiver properties

Yes: Dell QualifiedNo: Not Qualified
N/A : Not Applicable
Port  TypeMedia Serial Number Dell Qualified
- --- - - --
Te1/0/3   SFP 1000BASE-TPL7   No
Te1/0/4   SFP 1000BASE-TPKL   No
Te1/0/5   SFP+10GBASE-SRAL3   Yes
Te1/0/6   SFP+10GBASE-SRAK3   Yes
Te1/0/7   SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/8   SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/9   SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/10  SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/11  SFP+10GBASE-SRAJC   Yes
Te1/0/12  SFP+10GBASE-SRAL2   Yes
Te1/0/13  SFP+10GBASE-SRAJQ   Yes
Te1/0/14  SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/15  SFP+10GBASE-SRAHG   Yes
Te1/0/16  SFP+10GBASE-SRAJQ   Yes
Te1/0/17  SFP 1000BASE-TPKL   No
Te1/0/18  SFP 1000BASE-TPL7   No
Te1/0/19  UNKNOWN N/A   H11   N/A
Te1/0/20  UNKNOWN N/A   P11   N/A
Te1/0/22  UNKNOWN N/A   H51   N/A
Te1/0/23  SFP+10GBASE-CU1M  22808 Yes
Te1/0/24  SFP+10GBASE-CU1M  11560 Yes
Fo1/1/2   QSFP40GBASE-CR4-1MCN0V42N6F37   Yes


The 19, 20, 22 SFP's are Finisar 1GB, the 1000baseT are Dell branded
but apparently not qualified for use in the switch.  I think they
showed up differently before the firmware upgrade that made the unit
think it's a Dell Networking N4032F.

Overall we're pleased with the 8132F, but we're not doing anything too
awful stressy with them.

... JG




Re: Optic Vendor Coding Question

2015-03-05 Thread Joe Greco
> Do Dell 8132s have SFP+ vendor code issues? 

As in, do they not-work with non-Dell optics?

They don't work with Intel SR optics (whatever it is that comes with
the X520-SR's).  They do seem to work with generic Finisar 1GB optics.
Since the Dell branded FTLX8571D3BCL SR's seem to go for only $20-$30
on eBay I haven't been highly motivated to identify other 10GB modules
that work/don't-work. 

The strategy here has been to simply load up 10GB gear with compatible
SR optics and then forget about it.  I'm guessing that's not helpful
because you're probably interested in non-SR optics, but feel free to
ping me if you think I might be able to answer further questions.

#show interfaces transceiver properties

Yes: Dell QualifiedNo: Not Qualified
N/A : Not Applicable
Port  TypeMedia Serial Number Dell Qualified
- --- - - --
Te1/0/3   SFP 1000BASE-TPL7   No
Te1/0/4   SFP 1000BASE-TPKL   No
Te1/0/5   SFP+10GBASE-SRAL3   Yes
Te1/0/6   SFP+10GBASE-SRAK3   Yes
Te1/0/7   SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/8   SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/9   SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/10  SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/11  SFP+10GBASE-SRAJC   Yes
Te1/0/12  SFP+10GBASE-SRAL2   Yes
Te1/0/13  SFP+10GBASE-SRAJQ   Yes
Te1/0/14  SFP+10GBASE-SRAP9   Yes
Te1/0/15  SFP+10GBASE-SRAHG   Yes
Te1/0/16  SFP+10GBASE-SRAJQ   Yes
Te1/0/17  SFP 1000BASE-TPKL   No
Te1/0/18  SFP 1000BASE-TPL7   No
Te1/0/19  UNKNOWN N/A   H11   N/A
Te1/0/20  UNKNOWN N/A   P11   N/A
Te1/0/22  UNKNOWN N/A   H51   N/A
Te1/0/23  SFP+10GBASE-CU1M  22808 Yes
Te1/0/24  SFP+10GBASE-CU1M  11560 Yes
Fo1/1/2   QSFP40GBASE-CR4-1MCN0V42N6F37   Yes


The 19, 20, 22 SFP's are Finisar 1GB, the 1000baseT are Dell branded
but apparently not qualified for use in the switch.  I think they
showed up differently before the firmware upgrade that made the unit
think it's a Dell Networking N4032F.

Overall we're pleased with the 8132F, but we're not doing anything too
awful stressy with them.

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.


Optic Vendor Coding Question

2015-03-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Do Dell 8132s have SFP+ vendor code issues? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com