Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/19/12 9:16 AM, Jamie Bowden wrote:
 Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside.  Last time I checked, Canada 
 counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks who 
 don't speak much, if any, English.  Having said that, I can't recall having 
 seen any Quebecois posting in French here, but I find it hard to believe 
 those folks don't have use for a list like this.
 


Quebecois French and French aren't exactly the same. My dad once had to
order le pancakes for breakfast because the waitress didn't understand
le crepes.

~Seth



Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-20 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 50abc681.5040...@rollernet.us, Seth Mattinen writes:
 On 11/19/12 9:16 AM, Jamie Bowden wrote:
  Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside.  Last time I checked, Canad
 a counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks wh
 o don't speak much, if any, English.  Having said that, I can't recall having
  seen any Quebecois posting in French here, but I find it hard to believe tho
 se folks don't have use for a list like this.
  
 
 
 Quebecois French and French aren't exactly the same. My dad once had to
 order le pancakes for breakfast because the waitress didn't understand
 le crepes.

Well pancakes are not crepes.  Different receipe, different appearance,
different texture, similar taste.

If you ask for something that is not on the menu 

 ~Seth
 
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org



Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/20/12 3:19 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
 In message 50abc681.5040...@rollernet.us, Seth Mattinen writes:
 On 11/19/12 9:16 AM, Jamie Bowden wrote:
 Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside.  Last time I checked, Canad
 a counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks wh
 o don't speak much, if any, English.  Having said that, I can't recall having
  seen any Quebecois posting in French here, but I find it hard to believe tho
 se folks don't have use for a list like this.



 Quebecois French and French aren't exactly the same. My dad once had to
 order le pancakes for breakfast because the waitress didn't understand
 le crepes.
 
 Well pancakes are not crepes.  Different receipe, different appearance,
 different texture, similar taste.
 
 If you ask for something that is not on the menu 
 


No, this was the Quebecois waitress not understanding the French word,
not semantics. It's probably illegal to print the word pancake in
Quebec anyway.

~Seth



Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread jipe foo
Bonjour à tous,

Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les
plages d'adresses suivantes:

inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255
netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB
descr:  Orange France / Wanadoo service
country:FR
admin-c:AR10027-RIPE
tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

inetnum:90.96.0.0 - 90.96.199.255
netname:ORANGEFRANCE-WFP
descr:  Orange France - WFP
country:FR
admin-c:ER1049-RIPE
tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

S'agit-il de plages d'adresses de mobiles, de livebox ou de connexions WIFI
partagées (au moins pour la seconde) ?

Merci d'avance,

-- 
J


Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
Hi,

I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG.

Pierre-Yves Maunier


Le 19 novembre 2012 17:48, jipe foo fooj...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Bonjour à tous,

 Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les
 plages d'adresses suivantes:

 inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255
 netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB
 descr:  Orange France / Wanadoo service
 country:FR
 admin-c:AR10027-RIPE
 tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

 inetnum:90.96.0.0 - 90.96.199.255
 netname:ORANGEFRANCE-WFP
 descr:  Orange France - WFP
 country:FR
 admin-c:ER1049-RIPE
 tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

 S'agit-il de plages d'adresses de mobiles, de livebox ou de connexions WIFI
 partagées (au moins pour la seconde) ?

 Merci d'avance,

 --
 J




-- 
Pierre-Yves Maunier


Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Lewis

Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre?

Hopefully google translate hasn't butchered that too badly.

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Pierre-Yves Maunier wrote:


Hi,

I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG.

Pierre-Yves Maunier


Le 19 novembre 2012 17:48, jipe foo fooj...@gmail.com a écrit :


Bonjour à tous,

Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les
plages d'adresses suivantes:

inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255
netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB
descr:  Orange France / Wanadoo service
country:FR
admin-c:AR10027-RIPE
tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

inetnum:90.96.0.0 - 90.96.199.255
netname:ORANGEFRANCE-WFP
descr:  Orange France - WFP
country:FR
admin-c:ER1049-RIPE
tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

S'agit-il de plages d'adresses de mobiles, de livebox ou de connexions WIFI
partagées (au moins pour la seconde) ?

Merci d'avance,

--
J





--
Pierre-Yves Maunier



--
 Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
 Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
 Atlantic Net|
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RE: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Jamie Bowden
Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside.  Last time I checked, Canada 
counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks who 
don't speak much, if any, English.  Having said that, I can't recall having 
seen any Quebecois posting in French here, but I find it hard to believe those 
folks don't have use for a list like this.

-- 
Jamie Bowden(ja...@photon.com)
Sr. Sys. Admin. (703) 243-6613 x3848
Photon Research Associates, Inc.
1616 Fort Myer Drive, Suite 1000
Arlington, VA 22209

 -Original Message-
 From: Pierre-Yves Maunier [mailto:na...@maunier.org]
 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:59 AM
 To: jipe foo
 Cc: NANOG list
 Subject: Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange
 
 Hi,
 
 I think few people understand French on this list. You should try
 FRnOG.
 
 Pierre-Yves Maunier
 
 
 Le 19 novembre 2012 17:48, jipe foo fooj...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
  Bonjour à tous,
 
  Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur
 les
  plages d'adresses suivantes:
 
  inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255
  netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB
  descr:  Orange France / Wanadoo service
  country:FR
  admin-c:AR10027-RIPE
  tech-c: ER1049-RIPE
 
  inetnum:90.96.0.0 - 90.96.199.255
  netname:ORANGEFRANCE-WFP
  descr:  Orange France - WFP
  country:FR
  admin-c:ER1049-RIPE
  tech-c: ER1049-RIPE
 
  S'agit-il de plages d'adresses de mobiles, de livebox ou de
 connexions WIFI
  partagées (au moins pour la seconde) ?
 
  Merci d'avance,
 
  --
  J
 
 
 
 
 --
 Pierre-Yves Maunier



Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor


Il serait mieux si vous contactez directement d'Orange.

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, jipe foo wrote:


Bonjour ? tous,

Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les
plages d'adresses suivantes:

inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255
netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB
descr:  Orange France / Wanadoo service
country:FR
admin-c:AR10027-RIPE
tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

inetnum:90.96.0.0 - 90.96.199.255
netname:ORANGEFRANCE-WFP
descr:  Orange France - WFP
country:FR
admin-c:ER1049-RIPE
tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

S'agit-il de plages d'adresses de mobiles, de livebox ou de connexions WIFI
partag?es (au moins pour la seconde) ?

Merci d'avance,

--
J



wfms


Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:16 , Jamie Bowden ja...@photon.com wrote:

 Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside.  Last time I checked, Canada 
 counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks who 
 don't speak much, if any, English.  Having said that, I can't recall having 
 seen any Quebecois posting in French here, but I find it hard to believe 
 those folks don't have use for a list like this.

The entire population of Quebec (and at least some of them speak English) is 
barely under 1/4 of Canada, and about 2.5% of the US.  Hell, it's lower than 
many major metro areas in the US.

Better to ask why we do not post in Spanish, as Mexico has 112M people, plus of 
course Central America (whatever that is), the Caribbean, etc.  But we never 
have, and I doubt we will in the future.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick


 -Original Message-
 From: Pierre-Yves Maunier [mailto:na...@maunier.org]
 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:59 AM
 To: jipe foo
 Cc: NANOG list
 Subject: Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange
 
 Hi,
 
 I think few people understand French on this list. You should try
 FRnOG.
 
 Pierre-Yves Maunier
 
 
 Le 19 novembre 2012 17:48, jipe foo fooj...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 Bonjour à tous,
 
 Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur
 les
 plages d'adresses suivantes:
 
 inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255
 netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB
 descr:  Orange France / Wanadoo service
 country:FR
 admin-c:AR10027-RIPE
 tech-c: ER1049-RIPE
 
 inetnum:90.96.0.0 - 90.96.199.255
 netname:ORANGEFRANCE-WFP
 descr:  Orange France - WFP
 country:FR
 admin-c:ER1049-RIPE
 tech-c: ER1049-RIPE
 
 S'agit-il de plages d'adresses de mobiles, de livebox ou de
 connexions WIFI
 partagées (au moins pour la seconde) ?
 
 Merci d'avance,
 
 --
 J
 
 
 
 
 --
 Pierre-Yves Maunier
 




RE: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Jean-Francois . TremblayING
Jamie Bowden ja...@photon.com a écrit sur 19/11/2012 12:16:31 PM :
 Having said that, I can't recall having seen any Quebecois posting 
 in French here, [snip]

The intersection of Quebecois who speak only French and those who 
have anything to do with networking is hopefully very close to 0. 

That said, our typical first-encounter joke with a vendor is asking 
for a French version of their CLI. Always funny to see how they react. 

/JF
Videotron, AS5769





Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread jipe

Le 19 nov. 2012 à 17:56, Pierre-Yves Maunier na...@maunier.org a écrit :

 Hi, 
 
 I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG.

Ouups, of course the message was intended to FRnoOG 

Sorry for the noise guys. 

-- 
J 





Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Scott Weeks


--- jle...@lewis.org wrote:
From: Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org

Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre?

Hopefully google translate hasn't butchered that too badly.
-



It said something about eggs?  Were you hungry for some RA eggs?  ;-)

Why do you ask questions that NANOG Wanadoo © RA can lay eggs?

scott

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Ray Soucy
The universal translator is still a few years out it seems.
Written that way it's borderline insulting. ;-)

2012/11/19 Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org:
 Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre?

 Hopefully google translate hasn't butchered that too badly.


 On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Pierre-Yves Maunier wrote:

 Hi,

 I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG.

 Pierre-Yves Maunier


 Le 19 novembre 2012 17:48, jipe foo fooj...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Bonjour à tous,

 Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les
 plages d'adresses suivantes:

 inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255
 netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB
 descr:  Orange France / Wanadoo service
 country:FR
 admin-c:AR10027-RIPE
 tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

 inetnum:90.96.0.0 - 90.96.199.255
 netname:ORANGEFRANCE-WFP
 descr:  Orange France - WFP
 country:FR
 admin-c:ER1049-RIPE
 tech-c: ER1049-RIPE

 S'agit-il de plages d'adresses de mobiles, de livebox ou de connexions
 WIFI
 partagées (au moins pour la seconde) ?

 Merci d'avance,

 --
 J




 --
 Pierre-Yves Maunier


 --
  Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
  Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
  Atlantic Net|
 _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_



-- 
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Network Engineer
University of Maine System

T: 207-561-3526
F: 207-561-3531

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Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Nov 19, 2012, at 22:24, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote:

 The universal translator is still a few years out it seems.

The universal character set is widely deployed, though.

The universal translator just can't do it's thing if people still don't manage 
to send the simplest emails without mojibake (google that, if you don't know 
what it means).

If you transform

 Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre?

back into

 Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre?

the goog gives you:

 Why do you ask questions that NANOG Wanadoo can answer?

Well, almost, but no egg in your face :-)

Grüße, Carsten